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Alvin Walton 01-16-2017 12:11 PM

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Its the Rooney rule.
You have to interview at least one fat slob per position.

mooby 01-16-2017 12:19 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1162987]I wonder, who is the genius at Redskins Park who actually wants to interview Rob Ryan for the DC position? It's like the circus has come to town. Rob Ryan is[U] literally[/U] the [U]last[/U] coach I would want as our DC. I can hardly freakin' believe it.[/quote]

I found video footage of the Rob Ryan interview:

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metalskins 01-16-2017 02:16 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1162988]Given philosophies, I wouldn't be shocked if they're starting to hone in on Pettine, and this Ryan interview may be coming under the auspices of DC interview, but really be more about kicking the tires on Ryan as a position coach under Pettine.

They're all from the same Rex Ryan tree.[/quote]

That's an interesting take Schneed. Would be a very savvy move on the part of the front office if this is the case. Rob Ryan has become sort of a journeyman in terms of being a defensive coordinator. Would probably do him some good to step back to being a position coach for awhile.

REDSKINS4ever 01-16-2017 02:23 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1162986]Junior Galette loved playing under Ryan in New Orleans. And we all know the relationship between Galette and McCloughan. This might be due diligence following up on a player's suggestion.

We had interest in Wilks, too. The Norman connection.

I don't think there's any way they'd go with Rob Ryan. When you sit back and review resumes it makes no sense. Greg Manusky's record as the Colts and 49ers coordinator was better.

Don't overreact to an interview.[/quote]

They need to hire a DC already.....with Wade Phillips turning the job down and Gus Bradley apparently on his way to the Chargers, Mike Pettine is the strongest candidate right now.....

Schneed10 01-16-2017 02:59 PM

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Pettine would be my pick of the remaining candidates. But I'm not hearing him being interviewed by other teams. So until you start hearing that, I don't begrudge them at all for turning over every stone.

We don't know much about Tarver but the Rams probably thought that about McVay until they interviewed him.

If I were the Skins and I heard that Pettine had other offers then I'd scramble to put together an offer. On Bradley, that's a guy McCloughan and Gruden both know personally. So if Bradley decides he wants to go with Lynn, he'll do the Skins the courtesy of calling to tell them, in which case the 'Skins won't have a shot at him anyway. If he gets an offer from the Chargers, but would rather coach the Redskins, he'll call them and push them to either S or get off the pot. The relationship ensures they don't have to rush on Bradley.

Everybody needs to chill out. My goodness.

sdskinsfan2001 01-16-2017 03:06 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1163012]Pettine would be my pick of the remaining candidates. But I'm not hearing him being interviewed by other teams. So until you start hearing that, I don't begrudge them at all for turning over every stone.

We don't know much about Tarver but the Rams probably thought that about McVay until they interviewed him.

If I were the Skins and I heard that Pettine had other offers then I'd scramble to put together an offer. On Bradley, that's a guy McCloughan and Gruden both know personally. So if Bradley decides he wants to go with Lynn, he'll do the Skins the courtesy of calling to tell them, in which case the 'Skins won't have a shot at him anyway. If he gets an offer from the Chargers, but would rather coach the Redskins, he'll call them and push them to either S or get off the pot. The relationship ensures they don't have to rush on Bradley.

Everybody needs to chill out. My goodness.[/quote]

I'm freaking out man!!! You are freaking out, man!!!

Until Bradley and Pettine sign on with different teams, then I'll just wait it out. I think I actually want Pettine more than Bradley now. But I'd be happy with either one.

metalskins 01-16-2017 03:36 PM

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Actually, I think I'm starting to see what's going on. I think this week's interviews, there's more than meets the eye. Look at the Ryan interview. I think he was on the same coaching staff with Pettine. We might be hiring Tomsula for the DL. We're interviewing Tarver for the DC job. Back in San Fran, Manusky, Tomsula, and Tarver were on staff together. Manusky was the DC. That could be the route the Redskins are looking at taking. We'll know if this is the case if they interview guys linked to Bradley as well.

MTK 01-16-2017 03:37 PM

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It's a process, they reportedly wanted to interview 7-8 candidates. There are still worthy guys out there. People definitely need to chill.

skinsfan69 01-16-2017 04:00 PM

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Rob Ryan? lol.

Chico23231 01-16-2017 04:57 PM

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I don't care, just can't make a joe Barry type mistake again.

SFREDSKIN 01-16-2017 05:02 PM

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[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/29774/as-redskins-meet-with-rob-ryan-other-choices-remain-stronger]As Redskins meet with Rob Ryan, other choices remain stronger - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

MTK 01-16-2017 05:14 PM

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I'll be fine with Bradley or Pettine.

CRedskinsRule 01-16-2017 05:17 PM

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Here is a good basic outline of the search:
[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/29768/redskins-quest-to-find-defensive-coordinator-slowed-by-issues-timing]Redskins' quest to find defensive coordinator slowed by issues, timing - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

REDSKINS4ever 01-16-2017 05:45 PM

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[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/report-redskins-interview-former-raiders-defensive-coordinator]Report: Redskins to interview former Raiders defensive coordinator | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]


And yet another interview scheduled for the DC post....

REDSKINS4ever 01-16-2017 07:01 PM

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They've done their due diligence..... It's time to hire a defensive coordinator.....

punch it in 01-16-2017 07:57 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1163040]I'll be fine with Bradley or Pettine.[/QUOTE]



I would too but my vote is Pettine.

skinsfaninok 01-16-2017 10:15 PM

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Word is we are waiting to speak with raheem Morris

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metalskins 01-16-2017 10:55 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1163111]Word is we are waiting to speak with raheem Morris

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Rooney rule. He actually has been coaching wide receivers this year.


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FaithFamilyFootball 01-17-2017 12:58 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1163038]I don't care, just can't make a joe Barry type mistake again.[/quote]

Agreed

PorkSkins 01-17-2017 01:03 AM

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[quote=metalskins;1163112]Rooney rule. He actually has been coaching wide receivers this year.


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I believe the Redskins have already interviewed, per the Rooney rule, when they brought in Steve Wilks for an interview.

REDSKINS4ever 01-17-2017 01:37 AM

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I would be fine with Mike Singletary as DC.....

hutch17 01-17-2017 10:46 AM

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I remember hearing chatter on message boards and maybe some on twitter about them wanting to interview Vrabel, is that still alive especially now that he is out of the playoffs. I could really get behind that move, otherwise my vote goes to Petine, we need a hard nosed take no shit DC.

metalskins 01-17-2017 12:41 PM

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[quote=PorkSkins;1163115]I believe the Redskins have already interviewed, per the Rooney rule, when they brought in Steve Wilks for an interview.[/quote]


A later report said that the Panthers had promoted Wilks to DC before the Redskins had a chance to interview him. So, they have still yet to interview a minority candidate.

NCSUredskin 01-17-2017 12:58 PM

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Don't think we would have a shot, but this guy would have been ahead of Wade on my list...

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#Texans DC Romeo Crennel's contract is set to expire next Tuesday (1/24), source confirmed. HC Bill O'Brien said he wants him back.

punch it in 01-17-2017 12:59 PM

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[QUOTE=NCSUredskin;1163138]Don't think we would have a shot, but this guy would have been ahead of Wade on my list...



Adam Caplan

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#Texans DC Romeo Crennel's contract is set to expire next Tuesday (1/24), source confirmed. HC Bill O'Brien said he wants him back.[/QUOTE]



I concur. Miracles happen. You never know.....

metalskins 01-17-2017 01:08 PM

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I suppose I'm starting to see the light on how slowly the process has been for finding a new DC. I think I'm also seeing that even though everyone getting interviewed is getting interviewed for the DC position, but I think in reality, it's more or less informational interviews about different schemes and maybe even coaching strategies of the 'skins top two or three choices for the position. I really don't believe our front office wants to hire a guy like Rob Ryan, but he did work with Pettine.

It could be that the front office is also trying to assemble the rest of the coaching staff for the new DC, and they're also trying to find guys who would fit best with the philosophy and schemes that the new DC is going to implement. While, normally, I would assume you'd want the coordinator to bring in his own coaching staff, I suppose with Jay Gruden feeling like this is a do or die year, he wants the best coaching staff assembled, not a buddy system hire.

MTK 01-17-2017 01:59 PM

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[quote=metalskins;1163140]I suppose I'm starting to see the light on how slowly the process has been for finding a new DC. I think I'm also seeing that even though everyone getting interviewed is getting interviewed for the DC position, but I think in reality, it's more or less informational interviews about different schemes and maybe even coaching strategies of the 'skins top two or three choices for the position. I really don't believe our front office wants to hire a guy like Rob Ryan, but he did work with Pettine.

It could be that the front office is also trying to assemble the rest of the coaching staff for the new DC, and they're also trying to find guys who would fit best with the philosophy and schemes that the new DC is going to implement. While, normally, I would assume you'd want the coordinator to bring in his own coaching staff, I suppose with Jay Gruden feeling like this is a do or die year, he wants the best coaching staff assembled, not a buddy system hire.[/quote]

Yes, often these interviews are more for information gathering. Whether it's the team wanting an outsiders perspective and opinion on their talent and needs, or the team wants more info on another coach they have a more serious eye on. Or it could even be an agent asking a GM for a favor to keep his client's name out there. It never hurts to sit down with someone.

metalskins 01-17-2017 03:16 PM

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[quote=MTK;1163141]Yes, often these interviews are more for information gathering. Whether it's the team wanting an outsiders perspective and opinion on their talent and needs, or the team wants more info on another coach they have a more serious eye on. Or it could even be an agent asking a GM for a favor to keep his client's name out there. It never hurts to sit down with someone.[/quote]

Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head with the last part - keeping the agent's client's name out there. The coach can't feel used, because, you never know what comes out of the meeting. Maybe you don't get that DC position but you've wowed them enough to land some sort of coaching position with the team, and that's better than not working at all.

KI Skins Fan 01-17-2017 04:24 PM

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[quote=NCSUredskin;1163138]Don't think we would have a shot, but this guy would have been ahead of Wade on my list...

Adam Caplan
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#Texans DC Romeo Crennel's contract is set to expire next Tuesday (1/24), source confirmed. HC Bill O'Brien said he wants him back.[/quote]

Crennel is a fine DC, IMO. If he's willing, it might be worthwhile to interview him.

metalskins 01-17-2017 04:55 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1163148]Crennel is a fine DC, IMO. If he's willing, it might be worthwhile to interview him.[/quote]

I would be all for Crennel getting an interview.

punch it in 01-17-2017 05:23 PM

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[QUOTE=metalskins;1163149]I would be all for Crennel getting an interview.[/QUOTE]



Eff the interview. Just bring a briefcase and some flowers. [emoji106]

FlyerSkin 01-17-2017 09:15 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1163148]Crennel is a fine DC, IMO. If he's willing, it might be worthwhile to interview him.[/quote]

IF Bradley or Pettine are not going to be it, Crennel would be very cool by me!!!! A DC with HC experience is a plus in my book. He would give us an aggressive D as well!

DYoungJelly 01-17-2017 09:46 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1163150]eff the interview. Just bring a briefcase and some flowers. [emoji106][/quote]

+1.

SFREDSKIN 01-17-2017 10:36 PM

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How about we focus on the positives of Manusky, instead of the negatives:

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news/article-1/Redskins-Interview-Greg-Manusky-For-Defensive-Coordinator/ee08bcc2-51f2-4549-ac1a-bec2b828e2a5]Redskins Interview Greg Manusky For Defensive Coordinator[/url]

SFREDSKIN 01-17-2017 10:51 PM

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[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Detroit-Lions-block-Brian-Callahan-from-interview-50606716]Detroit Lions block Brian Callahan from interview[/url]

punch it in 01-18-2017 12:38 AM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1163186][url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Detroit-Lions-block-Brian-Callahan-from-interview-50606716]Detroit Lions block Brian Callahan from interview[/url][/QUOTE]


Why for about three days did I think Matt Cavanaugh had already taken the job? I swore somewhere I read he had accepted the offer.
Anyway I want Him to get the job. Offense will be very similar, and between him and Gruden they will fix the RZ issues. Christ all you have to do is dumb them down a little and you're headed in the right direction. McVay always got cute and out thunk himself down there. With our weapons and the continuity and experience Cavanaugh brings to the table McVay is a total afterthought.
Now Romeo has to realize that his defensive prowess is a waste in Houston because they are terrible on the other side of the ball. We got money and draft picks to sprinkle all over our defense, and that guy would make us instant contenders. (I know it is a pipe dream).

metalskins 01-18-2017 08:40 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1163193]Why for about three days did I think Matt Cavanaugh had already taken the job? I swore somewhere I read he had accepted the offer.
Anyway I want Him to get the job. Offense will be very similar, and between him and Gruden they will fix the RZ issues. Christ all you have to do is dumb them down a little and you're headed in the right direction. McVay always got cute and out thunk himself down there. With our weapons and the continuity and experience Cavanaugh brings to the table McVay is a total afterthought.
Now Romeo has to realize that his defensive prowess is a waste in Houston because they are terrible on the other side of the ball. We got money and draft picks to sprinkle all over our defense, and that guy would make us instant contenders. (I know it is a pipe dream).[/quote]

I thought the same exact thing. I'm sure I didn't dream up the idea that Matt Cavanaugh was being promoted to OC. If he's not promoted, I'm kind of nervous about him getting promoted elsewhere. I think he should be given as much, if not more, credit for developing Kirk Cousins. But maybe it's the same as Bill Callahan. Maybe Cavanaugh is more than happy with his job as a quarterback coach and doesn't want to be promoted? If that's the case, then I definitely understand continuing to search for McVay's replacement.

And speaking of Romeo C, McVay pretty much gave Phillips the job right away, and we could essentially do the same for Crennel. Not only would it satisfy the Rooney rule, but how great would it look on the Redskins to quickly hire a minority candidate? And a successful one at that? But yes, probably a pipe dream because he's probably not moving on from Houston.

Schneed10 01-18-2017 08:50 AM

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I think where McVay will be missed is in game planning. His play calling was fine, but ultimately replaceable. Where somebody needs to step up is in designing route concepts that attack a team's weakness, and communicating the reads to Cousins during practice.

He was hired as a head coach for a reason, I don't think we can assume we'll be fine without thinking hard about how we'll shuffle duties around and remain organized.

Schneed10 01-18-2017 08:51 AM

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If we hire a good QB coach then Cavanaugh can step up, and if Gruden is smart about organizing a process and assigning duties, we won't miss a beat.

I'm a little worried though that Gruden isn't the most organized guy in the world.

metalskins 01-18-2017 09:46 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;1163213]If we hire a good QB coach then Cavanaugh can step up, and if Gruden is smart about organizing a process and assigning duties, we won't miss a beat.

I'm a little worried though that Gruden isn't the most organized guy in the world.[/quote]

I think Gruden is best when the organization is in place for him. He's a great X's and O's guy (much like the ol' ball coach), but I'm a little skeptical as to his building a coaching staff. That's where I believe Scot and some of the other top brass are trying to help Gruden with putting together a decent defensive coaching staff. I think that part might be over Gruden's head.

As for game planning, I think we will miss McVay. I think we'll miss him with some of the playcalling. But, Gruden has been a successful offensive coordinator, and he's been a successful quarterback (albeit in the Arena league) and successful head coach (again Arena League), so I don't think he's completely clueless when it comes to designing route concepts and so forth. He's also got another ex-quarterback with Matt Cavanaugh on staff as well, so I think there's enough to keep the continuity going. Still would like that solid OC to come in and buy into the offensive philosophy.

Wonder if Al Saunders is available? :D (I keed, I keed!)


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