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Gruden is fucking pathetic. He is a loser. If its 3rd and 1, he'll fuck it up every time.

CT gone for the season to boot.

Just a fucking nightmare. Fire Grudens bitch ass in the locker room and hire a real fucking man to coach the team.

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[QUOTE=Stacks42;1180398]Why is everyone Blaming Gruden? Cousins choked again when it mattered most. Right before the half and at the end of the game. He has no presence... shit at the end take a sack rather than take an intentional grounding!!![/QUOTE]



Cousins shits his pants no doubt but the game should never have come to do or die. It is on Gruden. His playcalling absolutely killed us. They do all the time. Even wins are in spite of him. He is done here. Make no mistakes about it. Snyder is livid right now and Gruden will be fired. Just a matter of when. I think right now would be good.

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We can definitely do better than Gruden. We have a better than 50 50 shot at getting a better coach on the market this year.

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How does our defense fold at the end of every game? It's crazy how bad they are then. The offense was up 15 points with less then 4 minutes. That isn't the head coach that is the defense.

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[quote=Stacks42;1180398]Why is everyone Blaming Gruden? Cousins choked again when it mattered most. Right before the half and at the end of the game. He has no presence... shit at the end take a sack rather than take an intentional grounding!!![/quote]

This game isn't on Cousins. Let's stop that shit right now.

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1180405]Fuck Jay Gruden! I'm pissed with him for calling a handoff on 3rd and short instead of a quarterback sneak.....the Redskins would have won the fuckin game if Gruden would have called a sneak.[/QUOTE]



That was just terrible. He is playing video games on the sideline. It is comical.

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Cousins is not at fault. He put us up by 15 with a handful of minutes on the clock. If you know your QB chokes under pressure, play well enough to not put him in pressure situations. Gruden’s 3rd and 1 zone run call rivals Zorn’s stretch play on their own goal line in terms of fucking stupid, idiotic play calls.


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Give up touchdown, go 3 and out, give up touchdown and 2 point conversion. Get intentional grounding and strip sacked. OT. Go 3 and out, give up game ending drive without even trying. Those were the last 6 drives of the game. Fuck this team.

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Hire Jim Harbaugh. I'd love to see Smithers try to undermine him.

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On the grounding call Cousins was obviously expecting someone to be there. Again, the game should have never came down to that. This defense just straight up fucking quit like the bitches that they are. And Gruden, look...he can't help it that Paul misses a block, I didn't like the call in the first place. Just sneak the fucking ball and the game is over.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1180409]How does our defense fold at the end of every game? It's crazy how bad they are then. The offense was up 15 points with less then 4 minutes. That isn't the head coach that is the defense.[/QUOTE]



Gruden called a terrible game at crucial moments man. He did. Yeah our defense chokes too, but this stench is coming straight from Grudens clipboard.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1180403]Oh get the fuck outta here w/ that Cousins choking shit. You're a dumb fuck.[/quote]

GFY! A Franchise QB does not continually make these mistakes! With the game on the line do you ever trust Cousins? If he didn't like a play he can audible. This came down to execution.

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[quote=Stacks42;1180420]GFY! A Franchise QB does not continually make these mistakes! With the game on the line do you ever trust Cousins? If he didn't like a play he can audible. This came down to execution.[/quote]

Your football IQ is in a piss and shit filled fucking toilet if you're going to come on here and blame Cousins. He gave the defense a 16 point lead late in the 4th q and they basically fucking quit like soft bitches.

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So now we face a NYG team that upset KC today.....

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[quote=punch it in;1180419]Gruden called a terrible game at crucial moments man. He did. Yeah our defense chokes too, but this stench is coming straight from Grudens clipboard.[/quote]

there's a lot of blame to go around but he's the hc so w/out question deserves a ton of heat for this.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1180413]Cousins is not at fault. He put us up by 15 with a handful of minutes on the clock. If you know your QB chokes under pressure, play well enough to not put him in pressure situations. Gruden’s 3rd and 1 zone run call rivals Zorn’s stretch play on their own goal line in terms of fucking stupid, idiotic play calls.


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Oh, come on! If your QB chokes under pressure then you've got a big problem. The NFL is all about late game pressure, especially for QB's.

I agree with you on the 3rd down call. Needed to go straight ahead. And because of our situation in the standings and the way our defense was getting rolled by NO, I wouldn't have minded Gruden going for it on 4th and very short if we didn't get there on 3rd down. It would have been worth the risk.

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I agree the D played like garage... BUT there was a chance to win with a very makable field goal, provided we did not shoot ourselves in the foot.

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This game is all on Gruden. He's a fucking loser. And he's the HC so it bleeds down. If I was in the locker room I'd tell him to shut the fuck up if he said anything. That play when that fat piece of shit from the Raiders got a false start on a FG and we had to punt said it all. Gruden went to talk to him and he rolled his eyes and basically didn't give a fuck. Im the HC and you act like that, we're fighting and then you're off the field and cut Monday morning.

He is not a leader. He's a pussy.

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Jay Gruden and Deangelo Hall both need to never set foot on a football field again. This loss is going to really ruffle some feathers. The worst thing that can happen now is we beat a bunch of softies and go on some miraculous run of softie killing so we can lose bad in the playoffs to another real team. Than It is one more year with a guy at the helm who really doesn’t have the chops to be a HC. I was not expecting to lose like that but i said we would lose and than win out. We will watch. It will be a bunch of wins over teams that aren’t very good and than an ass kicking in the playoffs. Than Grudens dumbass will be back. We are staring down a schedule full of extremely winnable games and it is actually making me sick.

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The intentional grounding was a broken play, the strip sack was almost an immediate blind side hit. Kirk was great today. But he plays for loser. The whole team does and it shows.

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This game is only worth it if Gruden gets fired. We need a tough coach, not some players best friends pussy.

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Sure. That will solve all our problems.

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[QUOTE=Coff;1180444]Sure. That will solve all our problems.[/QUOTE]



It’s a start. The guy is garbage.

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Cousins just said "He didn't understand" what he was supposed to do on the intentional grounding. If that is not concerning, I dont know what is..

When is the last time Brady, Brees, Manning, Rivers, etc. said they didnt understand what they were supposed to do?

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[QUOTE=Stacks42;1180448]Cousins just said "He didn't understand" what he was supposed to do on the intentional grounding. If that is not concerning, I dont know what is..



When is the last time Brady, Brees, Manning, Rivers, etc. said they didnt understand what they were supposed to do?[/QUOTE]



Everyone gets how concerning the whole play and his explanation are. But what is more concerning is that with a 15 point lead , the ball, and 4 minutes left in the game that Cousins was trying to drive us into fg position for the win. Get it?

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Those plays when qbs aren't under pressure and there is a clear miscommunication usually aren't called grounding. But we're the Skins so we know we're getting the dick sandwich.

A qb sneak with Perrine pushing him on 3rd and 1 and its over.

But that piece of fucking shit Gruden calls a play with pulling guard and other moving parts that takes an hour to develop. This followed up last weeks running Chris Thompson on 3rd and 4th and short getting stuffed.

He's a fucking idiot.

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I can't think of one positive trait that Gruden offers as a coach. When it matters he will fuck it up. Without a doubt.

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[quote=punch it in;1180451]Everyone gets how concerning the whole play and his explanation are. But what is more concerning is that with a 15 point lead , the ball, and 4 minutes left in the game that Cousins was trying to drive us into fg position for the win. Get it?[/quote]

If he doesnt make that MASSIVE mistake, the rest of the game is a moot point. GET IT?

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[QUOTE=Stacks42;1180456]If he doesnt make that MASSIVE mistake, the rest of the game is a moot point. GET IT?[/QUOTE]



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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1180453]Those plays when qbs aren't under pressure and there is a clear miscommunication usually aren't called grounding. But we're the Skins so we know we're getting the dick sandwich.

A qb sneak with Perrine pushing him on 3rd and 1 and its over.

But that piece of fucking shit Gruden calls a play with pulling guard and other moving parts that takes an hour to develop. This followed up last weeks running Chris Thompson on 3rd and 4th and short getting stuffed.

He's a fucking idiot.[/quote]

That play makes me seething fucking mad at him. It was less that a yard. All Kirk had to do was reach the ball out over the line and that's it. There was no god damn reason for him to run that stupid ass shit play where Perine had to go sideways. He has a converted WR playing fucking fullback so you already know there's a chance for a fuck up. I can't remember being this mad after a loss. I need a stiff ass drink.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1180465]That play makes me seething fucking mad at him. It was less that a yard. All Kirk had to do was reach the ball out over the line and that's it. There was no god damn reason for him to run that stupid ass shit play where Perine had to go sideways. He has a converted WR playing fucking fullback so you already know there's a chance for a fuck up. I can't remember being this mad after a loss. I need a stiff ass drink.[/quote]

Gruden is a choker. He chokes under pressure. He continually calls dumb plays when it matters. We'll never win a damn thing with that loser as our HC.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1180409]How does our defense fold at the end of every game? It's crazy how bad they are then. [B]The offense was up 15 points with less then 4 minutes. [/B]That isn't the head coach that is the defense.[/quote]

(Bold mine.) Holy crap we were up that much and still lost?

Did the offense or special teams give the Saints a short field or two, a defensive or special teams touchdown, or did our defense just fold at the end?

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[quote=HailGreen28;1180474](Bold mine.) Holy crap we were up that much and still lost?

Did the offense or special teams give the Saints a short field or two, a defensive or special teams touchdown, or did our defense just fold at the end?[/quote]

Gruden is the HC. The whole team is under him. He is part of the problem on defense too.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1180474](Bold mine.) Holy crap we were up that much and still lost?

Did the offense or special teams give the Saints a short field or two, a defensive or special teams touchdown, [B]or did our defense just fold at the end?[/B][/quote]

I can see you haven't watched the carnage yet. This must be how the Cowboys felt in our first battle of 2005.

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[quote=mooby;1180479]I can see you haven't watched the carnage yet. This must be how the Cowboys felt in our first battle of 2005.[/quote]

LOL, not going to watch this game on DVR or anything. Knew we would lose, didn't think it would be such a heartbreaker, and lose maybe our best RB for the season.

Just looked at the play by play on NFL.com.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2017111905/2017/REG11/Redskins@Saints?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2017111905#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000879667&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay]Watch Washington Redskins vs. New Orleans Saints [11/19/2017] - NFL.com[/url]

Wow, the defense folded like a cheap lawn chair as usual. Sure the offense went legs up, but when you put the enemy on their 20 down 15 with 5:58 to go, and your offense and ST don't give up any easy returns for scores, the loss is on the defense.

Ultimately, this is what the Skins are, since Snyder took over the team. A weak team.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1180483]LOL, not going to watch this game on DVR or anything. Knew we would lose, didn't think it would be such a heartbreaker, and lose maybe our best RB for the season.

Just looked at the play by play on NFL.com.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2017111905/2017/REG11/Redskins@Saints?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2017111905#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000879667&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay]Watch Washington Redskins vs. New Orleans Saints [11/19/2017] - NFL.com[/url]

Wow, the defense folded like a cheap lawn chair as usual. Sure the offense went legs up, but when you put the enemy on their 20 down 15 with 5:58 to go, and your offense and ST don't give up any easy returns for scores, the loss is on the defense.

Ultimately, this is what the Skins are, since Snyder took over the team. A weak team.[/quote]

You'd have to be a real masachist to watch this game on DVR lol.

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[quote=Stacks42;1180448]Cousins just said "He didn't understand" what he was supposed to do on the intentional grounding. If that is not concerning, I dont know what is..

When is the last time Brady, Brees, Manning, Rivers, etc. said they didnt understand what they were supposed to do?[/quote]

This is the same guy who took a knee to stop the clock.

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For what it's worth.....D.J. Swearinger has three picks in the last two games.

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[quote=Schneed10;1180408]We can definitely do better than Gruden. We have a better than 50 50 shot at getting a better coach on the market this year.[/quote]His brother would win with this team. John Gruden would certainly get more out of the WR's than Jay has. He would also have a better running game.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1180418]On the grounding call Cousins was obviously expecting someone to be there. Again, the game should have never came down to that. This defense just straight up fucking quit like the bitches that they are. And Gruden, look...he can't help it that Paul misses a block, I didn't like the call in the first place. Just sneak the fucking ball and the game is over.[/quote]Manusky layed back in a soft zone and only rushed 4 with the exception of one play on the final 2 Saints drives in regulation. Of course Brees will slice that up like soft butter. Our coaches are garbage in crunch time.

As for Paul, I hate him as a lead blocker in short yardage. He completely whiffed on the failed 3rd and 1, splitting two penetrating defenders. Ryan Anderson is a much more physical lead blocking option.