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^^^

Still can't believe we got Sweat in the 1st round. We could have picked anyone at 15 that was a reasonable choice, and with Sweat included, I would have loved the 1st round.

Note - I originally wanted Lock (would have been pumped with him at 15), but every team passed on him in round 1, so looks like I was off. I'm sold on Haskins now tho. Excited to watch him play. I always am intrested in preseason, but this year its ramped up a notch.

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I'm drinking the Haskins-flavored Kool Aid by the gallon. If Dan Snyder overruled the football people to pick Haskins at #15 then I say "Thanks, Dan!".

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[B][SIZE="3"]Good stuff from The Athletic. I would post the link but it's not a free site so it would not work. [/SIZE][/B]

During Daniel Snyder’s 20-year run as Washington’s owner, the franchise has drafted four quarterbacks in the first round: Patrick Ramsey (2002), Jason Campbell (2005), Robert Griffin III (2012) and Dwayne Haskins (2019).

Recently, a subscriber to The Athletic, Mike B., wondered how the quarterbacks taken before Haskins were covered by the media in the days between the draft and their first preseason snaps.

It’s a good question. (Thanks, Mike B.!)

Here’s how the local and national media covered them. There was a lot of hope, but the results didn’t live up to the hype.

Patrick Ramsey, 2002, 32nd-overall pick
Why Washington drafted him: There wasn’t a starting-caliber signal caller on the roster. Many immediately questioned why Washington took him with the final pick of the first round; then-coach Steve Spurrier made it clear that he saw the competition for the starting job being between his former Florida quarterbacks, Danny Wuerffel and Shane Matthews. Sage Rosenfels was also in the mix. Ramsey, a three-year starter at Tulane, left the program with 30 school records, and Washington made him the first quarterback since Heath Shuler (1994) to be selected by the team in the first round. In 31 consecutive games at Tulane, Ramsey threw at least one touchdown and completed 798 of 1,355 passes for 9,205 yards and 72 touchdowns. The 6-foot-2, 220-pound, Ruston, La., native was the only Green Wave player to record a 400-yard passing game and did so four times at Tulane.

The hype men: “Ramsey displayed touch and precise passing at both Tulane and the Senior Bowl practices. He got no help at Tulane and often got beat up. But Ramsey hung in there. He looks a lot like another former quarterback from Louisiana, Bert Jones. The only question about Ramsey is his lack of mobility. But he has the prototype delivery and arm strength to be an NFL starter.” — ESPN’s Mel Kiper, Jr.

“The first three quarterbacks selected in this year’s draft — David Carr, Joey Harrington and Patrick Ramsey — are all mobile.” — The New York Times’ Thomas George

“The Redskins are hoping Ramsey plays well enough to spend the next decade or more in the area code. … ‘It’s all new to him, but he can really throw,’ Spurrier said. ‘He has a beautiful throwing motion. There’s a lot of stuff to it — learning where to throw it and when to throw it. He’s got a pretty good mind. But changing plays and audibling and all that, it’s foreign to him. I think he’s got a big-time future. How much he’ll play this year, I don’t know. But I know one thing: He’s come a long way from that first minicamp until about a month later. He did a lot of homework and worked on his mechanics. His fundamentals of throwing are much improved.’ — The Washington Post’s Mark Maske

Thumbs down: “One has to wonder how strongly Washington Redskins coach Steve Spurrier endorsed the choice of Tulane quarterback Patrick Ramsey in the first round. Spurrier had been lukewarm about Ramsey, although scout Ron Nay loved him. In one of the Skins’ final draft meetings, Spurrier reiterated that he expected Danny Wuerffel to be the starter even if the club chose Ramsey. It’s as if Spurrier is hell-bent on convincing the world he can win with Wuerffel, a guy no one else considers of starter quality, playing for him. The rest of the league figures that, by default, Ramsey becomes the best quarterback on the roster.” — ESPN’s Len Pasquarelli

“Patrick can’t just jump in here and go,” Matthews told the Houston Chronicle’s John McClain. “The speed of the game is totally different. It’s extremely fast when you’re trying to think of what the guys around you are doing. That’s what he’s going to do for the first couple months because you can’t just go out and play if you’re thinking too much. … I came here to play, but, obviously, he’s the future of this franchise. Patrick has one of the best arms I’ve seen in a long time, but you have to know how to use that arm.”

Amazingly, Ramsey was nearly traded to the Chicago Bears before he ever played a game in D.C., as Washington grew impatient with the first-round pick’s 16-day holdout during training camp. Chicago, however, did not go for an offer of a 2003 first-round pick and second-year guard Mike Gandy in exchange for Ramsey, who had just bought a townhouse in the area.

“This whole deal’s been crazy. It’s an unfortunate situation. I’m just thrilled to be here at this point,” Ramsey told the Los Angeles Times. “I’m just learning the way this league works, and I was broken in early, I guess.”

How things played out: Ramsey played four seasons in Washington, starting five games his rookie season and 11 in 2003. But after that season, Spurrier quit, ultimately going back to college, and Snyder brought back Joe Gibbs for a second stint as head coach. Almost immediately, Washington pivoted from Ramsey, signing free agent QB Mark Brunell in February. Ramsey lasted two more years in D.C. but was traded to the Jets for a sixth-round pick in 2006. He played with the Jets and Broncos before his career ended in 2008. Ramsey threw for 5,930 yards, 35 touchdowns, 30 interceptions and a 74.9 QB rating in seven NFL seasons.

Jason Campbell, 2005, 25th-overall pick
Why Washington drafted him: Campbell’s selection was a bit of a head-scratcher to many folks. Gibbs was well known for playing his veterans, and he had two at the time in Brunell and Ramsey. In the offseason leading up to the 2005 NFL Draft, Gibbs announced that it was Ramsey’s team. And then the team traded first-, third- and fourth-round picks to the Denver Broncos for the No. 25th pick, where the team selected Campbell, the former Auburn Tigers quarterback.

To be clear, Washington needed what Campbell offered. The offense was one of the worst in the league that season — 31st in scoring (15 ppg) and offensive touchdowns (24) and was 29th in passing (164.5 ypg). Brunell was notorious for not pushing the ball down the field, to the point that in more than half of the team’s games (nine of 16), it averaged less than 10 yards a completion and finished with a league-low 27 catches that went for 20 yards or more. In contrast, Campbell was the 2004 Southeastern Conference Offensive Player of the Year, earning raves for his big arm. In addition to that, he led the Tigers to an unscathed 13-0 record, an SEC championship, and Sugar Bowl victory, passing for 2,700 yards, 20 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He came out of Auburn as the program’s leader in completion percentage and passing efficiency, and second in yards, passing touchdowns, attempts and completions.

The hype men: “Truth be told, Campbell, a steady performer his first two seasons but a guy who made a quantum leap in terms of overall grasp of the position in the past two years, has already been a pleasant surprise for scouts. At 6-feet-4 3/4 and 227 pounds, he still moves well, and he posted 40-yard times in the 4.69-4.75 range on Monday and had a vertical jump of 38 inches. From a demeanor standpoint, Campbell might not appear quite as fiery … but teammates insist there is a raw emotion simmering not too far below the surface. While he has a yes-sir/no-sir kind of makeup, Campbell is definitely a leader, a bright youngster who overcame the handicap of playing for four different offensive coordinators and in four disparate systems, over the course of his career. It was under the tutelage of Al Borges, who installed a West Coast-style offense in ’04, that Campbell really blossomed … Even before Borges’ arrival, though, Campbell was deceptively accurate, completing more than 60 percent of his passes every season.” — ESPN’s Len Pasquarelli

“I still think some other team will take Campbell off the board late in the first round. Whether that means the Packers select him as an heir apparent to Brett Favre or the Browns or Titans trade up for additional first-round picks is anyone’s guess, but Campbell’s combination of size, athleticism and accuracy will be enticing to plenty of teams. He is accurate to an extreme, meaning he not only gets the ball to a receiver’s area but also places the ball in the right spot so receivers don’t have to break stride.” — ESPN’s Mel Kiper, Jr.

Thumbs down: “And as long as we’re discussing the ramifications of the pick: What makes anybody think that Campbell is so great? Did you see the running backs he had behind him at Auburn? Ronnie Brown was the No. 2 overall pick in this draft, and Cadillac Williams was the No. 5. When was the last time two running backs on the same college team were drafted that high? The answer is: Never. Wouldn’t you suspect that having two backs of that quality makes it a whole lot easier for a quarterback to pass the ball? I mean, wouldn’t you suspect that defenses geared up to stop the run against Auburn? So whenever Campbell threw the ball, the defenses said, ‘Fine, we can live with him trying to beat us?’ Maybe Campbell is a great quarterback. But with running backs like that, how much did he really have to do on his own? Pretty much all Campbell had to do was pivot, hand the ball off and watch as the zebras on the sideline moved the chains. Gibbs said he was impressed by the fact that Campbell ‘can actually throw a fadeaway.’ So could my dog Maggie if she got 30 seconds to throw a pass because the defense was always consumed with stopping the run.” — The Washington Post’s Tony Kornheiser

Washington taking a quarterback in the first round was a shocker for most analysts. Whether it be because of Ramsey’s spot still on the team or Gibbs preference for veteran players to play ahead of rookies and younger players, the overwhelming thought was that should the team grab Campbell, it would be in later rounds where he was projected to be picked. Especially for the price the team paid to Denver, essentially giving up three chances to select contributors, it was assumed a more glaring need would be addressed.

“Why give up a first-rounder in 2006 for a guy who’s not going to help you win right now, especially when immediate results are what you’re looking for and you already have a young passer like Ramsey who should be entering the prime of his career?” — ESPN’s Mel Kiper, Jr. (Yes, Kiper is quoted as both supporting and wondering about Campbell — but, to be fair, the quotes were in different contexts.)

How things played out: Washington took things slowly with Campbell, making him inactive for the first 25 games of his career before he started the final seven games of the 2006 season. And he started all but seven games for Washington the next four years, including a career-best 3,618 yards and 20 TDs in 2009. It did not dissuade new coach Mike Shanahan from trading Campbell to Oakland in 2010 for a 2012 fourth-round pick, and trading for Donovan McNabb. Campbell played 10 NFL seasons, including 79 starts for Washington, followed by stints in Oakland, Chicago and Cleveland. He finished his career with 16,697 yards passing, 87 touchdowns (six rushing), 60 interceptions and an 81.8 QB rating.

Robert Griffin III, 2012, 2nd-overall pick
Why Washington drafted him: In Washington’s first two seasons under Shanahan, it went 6-10 (2010) and 5-11 (2011). That 2011 season, Rex Grossman, with support from John Beck, led the team. Coming off those back-to-back poor seasons, Shanahan and the front office needed something to change the organization’s direction and get the fanbase excited.

Griffin finished his career at Baylor by leading the Bears to a 10-3 record, a 67-56 win over Washington in Alamo Bowl, the highest-scoring regulation bowl game in NCAA history and the Heisman Trophy. He had 4,293 passing yards, 37 passing touchdowns and six interceptions. On the ground, he produced 699 rushing yards and 10 rushing touchdowns on 179 carries.

The hype men: “The entire Redskins organization and fan base have been waiting for this moment since March 10, the day Dan Snyder gave Mike Shanahan permission to give up a lot to the St. Louis Rams to obtain the No. 2 overall pick in the draft — a spot Shanahan knew would be beneficial. … (Griffin) might be 22 years old, but the Heisman Trophy winner has been saying and doing all the right things throughout this entire process, and you would think he’s a 10-year veteran. Griffin comes to a town that has been starving for a winner and seems ready to put an entire franchise on his back and lead for the next decade. Now that draft night has come and gone; I think it’s safe to say that April 26, 2012, will go down as the most exciting day for the Redskins franchise since January 7, 2004. That was the day Dan Snyder introduced Joe Gibbs as the new head coach of the Redskins.” — WTOP’s George Wallace

“Griffin is different. He’s not another fading star at the end of his career. His star is rising quickly — and the Redskins should latch on for the ride. Anyone who has watched the polished Heisman Trophy winner from Baylor knows he has something special. It’s not just Griffin’s outstanding arm strength or that he’s faster than many wide receivers (seriously, though, his 40-yard dash time of 4.41 is ridiculous). He has poise. He has presence. Just call it the ‘it’ factor.” — The Washington Post’s Jason Reid

“The truth is there is no one currently in the NFL who combines all of RG3’s abilities. In order to truly compare Robert Griffin III to current NFL quarterbacks, we need to examine specific parts of his game. By comparing individual aspects, we can then add up the parts to get a more accurate picture of what RG3 might be like in the NFL.” — Bleacher Report’s Brian Filler

Thumbs down: “When I filed my camp tour report from Washington I said I wished Robert was sitting on the bench for 2012 — or at least part of the season. He needs to get more practice time in the NFL way of playing the game and would benefit from observation and practice.” — CBS Sports’ Pat Kirwan

“In my opinion, Griffin’s speed doesn’t enhance his draft stock. It damages it. I am not a Robert Griffin hater. I love RG3. In all likelihood, he will be my favorite NFL player next season. He could quickly become my favorite active athlete, ahead of Tiger Woods, Ray Lewis and Jeff George (has yet to file his retirement paperwork). But I’m worried about Griffin. He’s blessed with too many tools. Oftentimes, the greatest athletes are physically limited, which strengthens their focus. … NFL fans are going to want to see Griffin run. When you’re faster than everyone on the field, it makes sense to run. Griffin is going to be fighting common sense and his natural instincts. And what if he gets paired with the wrong head coach, a coach who is looking for a quick-fix rather than Griffin’s long-term success?… Shanahan could play Griffin as a rookie and allow him to run because his legs might produce eight or nine victories quicker than his arm. All coaches prefer to win now. It’s the only way to guarantee another season.” — Fox Sports’ Jason Whitlock

How things played out: Griffin’s rookie season was among the best by a first-year quarterback in NFL history. He threw for 3,200 yards, 20 touchdowns and five interceptions; he ran for 815 yards and seven more touchdowns. Washington won the NFC East and Griffin was named NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year, making the Pro Bowl. But that was the apex. Griffin’s rookie season, infamously, ended with a torn lateral collateral ligament injury in his right knee, an injury that also required reconstruction of his ACL, in Washington’s playoff loss to Seattle. Things rapidly deteriorated from there between Griffin and the team — specifically, between Griffin and Mike and Kyle Shanahan. Griffin returned much too quickly in 2013, and never was the same. By his fourth and final season in D.C., under second-year coach Jay Gruden, he didn’t play at all, watching as Kirk Cousins was given total reins of the team and took Washington to the top of the division and a playoff appearance. On March 7, 2016, the former Baylor standout was released. Griffin signed with Cleveland soon after and played sparingly for the Browns, before being released and missing the entire 2017 season. He was signed by the Ravens in 2018 and spent last season as Baltimore’s third-string QB. Currently, Griffin has 9,004 passing yards, 42 touchdowns, 26 interceptions and an 88.2 QB rating. In addition, he has 10 rushing touchdowns and 1,670 rushing yards.

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What does everyone here think about what Theismann said about the first 5 games of the regular season schedule being potentially too much for Haskins to handle ?

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1225100]What does everyone here think about what Theismann said about the first 5 games of the regular season schedule being potentially too much for Haskins to handle ?[/quote]

Someone has to play. If he proves that he's our best option leading up to the season to win games, then he should play.

Our opening schedule is pretty brutal for any QB. Shouldn't deter from Haskins starting if he earned the job.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1225105]Someone has to play. If he proves that he's our best option leading up to the season to win games, then he should play.

Our opening schedule is pretty brutal for any QB. [B]Shouldn't deter from Haskins starting if he earned the job.[/B][/quote]

As long as the O-line is playing well and protecting him so he doesn't become road kill.

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1225100]What does everyone here think about what Theismann said about the first 5 games of the regular season schedule being potentially too much for Haskins to handle ?[/QUOTE]I tend to agree with Theismann. I think the bye or Minnesota game would be the better starting point for his career. I really don't like the idea of letting all 3 NFC East oppenents have the opportunity to get into his brain early in his career.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1225110]As long as the O-line is playing well and protecting him so he doesn't become road kill.[/QUOTE]This is one of the biggest misunderstandings in football.

There is a huge responsibility on the QB to work with the online to protect himself.

Colt Brennan on 980 a few years ago said the responsibility was 50% oline and 50% QB.

The o line doesn't play well in a vacuum, the QB greatly influences the play of the o line.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1225100]What does everyone here think about what Theismann said about the first 5 games of the regular season schedule being potentially too much for Haskins to handle ?[/quote]

I think worrying about the schedule is a pretty poor reason to hold him back if he's ready. JT is being overly protective.

The first 5 games may look brutal now, but things change so much week to week.

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You learn by doing. A previous poster talked about the case of Jason Campbell. He sat on the bench for 1.5 seasons before they played him in his first game. He still ended up being an average QB who only lasted for a few years with us. Sitting him for so long did nothing except delay the team from finding out he wasn't the franchise QB.

People keep bringing up RG3 as the reason for sitting Haskins down. RG3 was a running QB who couldn't read a defense, nor ever get through his progressions. Once he was hurt he couldn't become a pocket QB because of those two reasons.

The Eagles, who probably will win the NFC East this year, played Wentz from game 1 in his rookie season. They took their "rookie" lumps that first year and he was ready to move up the next season and did so.

Let Haskins start from Game 1. I'd rather watch Haskins learn as a rookie, make some mistakes and win 6 games than see why Case Keenum is a journeyman QB in the NFL and win 7-8 games. Give Haskins the experience he needs right from the get-go. He'll be a better QB in the long-run for building that experience level.

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I just hope that we keep 3 QB's this season. There's no way we can go w/ 2. I have a feeling that all 3 guys will end up playing.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1225227]I just hope that we keep 3 QB's this season. There's no way we can go w/ 2. I have a feeling that all 3 guys will end up playing.[/quote]

After last season I doubt Gruden wants to get into a QB situation where he has to hire a QB off the street who hasn't even played in the NFL in a few years. No doubt we will have 3 QB on the team and Alex Smith talking in Haskin's ear getting him ready to play.

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[quote=Warthog;1225237]After last season I doubt Gruden wants to get into a QB situation where he has to hire a QB off the street who hasn't even played in the NFL in a few years. No doubt we will have 3 QB on the team and Alex Smith talking in Haskin's ear getting him ready to play.[/quote]

Yet this spring Gruden said he doesn't like carrying more than 2 QBs.

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Speaking at the league meetings in March, Gruden made clear he only likes to roll with two QBs on his 53.

"If you carry three quarterbacks, which I've never been a fan of, it will have an impact on another position," the coach said.

[URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-depth-chart-review-will-jay-gruden-really-be-bold-enough-keep-just-2-qbs"]Redskins depth chart review: Will Jay Gruden really be bold enough to keep just 2 QBs?[/URL]
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Don't be surprised if it happens again.

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This is where I really disagree w/ Gruden. Yes it will impact another position but so what. The most important position is QB. If a starter goes down then you have the backup and then you have to get a guy off the street. How'd that work out last year Jay? You had Mark Sanchez start a game and the offense looked like pee wee league shit. You couldn't run basic plays. Inexcusable on the NFL level. Josh Johnson won a game but then he showed who he really is.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1225110]As long as the O-line is playing well and protecting him so he doesn't become road kill.[/quote]


[quote=DYoungJelly;1225124]This is one of the biggest misunderstandings in football.

There is a huge responsibility on the QB to work with the online to protect himself.

Colt Brennan on 980 a few years ago said the responsibility was 50% oline and 50% QB.

The o line doesn't play well in a vacuum, the QB greatly influences the play of the o line.

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Being a pocket passer goes a long way toward a QB doing his 50%, that is what Haskins is.

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[quote=MTK;1225245]Yet this spring Gruden said he doesn't like carrying more than 2 QBs.



Don't be surprised if it happens again.[/quote]

I just don't believe everything Jay says to the press. If the team does as he has said, then that means Colt McCoy will be on the streets after the pre-season, unless Case totally blows it in the pre-season.

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[quote=MTK;1225245]Yet this spring Gruden said he doesn't like carrying more than 2 QBs.



Don't be surprised if it happens again.[/quote]

What a genius, it is pretty obvious why he averages 7 wins a year. With the Redskin's recent history of QB injuries he should have 3.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1225227]I just hope that we keep 3 QB's this season. There's no way we can go w/ 2. I have a feeling that all 3 guys will end up playing.[/QUOTE]I mean Smith is going to go on IR immediately, so keeping 3 active is really 4. I doubt they do that and tie up even more salary cap room.
If its me I go with Keenum and Haskins. Keenum doesnt have an injury history like Colt, and has backup talent at least.

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[QUOTE=Warthog;1225257]I just don't believe everything Jay says to the press. If the team does as he has said, then that means Colt McCoy will be on the streets after the pre-season, unless Case totally blows it in the pre-season.[/QUOTE]Colt on the street presumably would be our goto guy if injuries hit the qb spot again

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[quote=Warthog;1225257]I just don't believe everything Jay says to the press. If the team does as he has said, then that means Colt McCoy will be on the streets after the pre-season, unless Case totally blows it in the pre-season.[/quote]

Just look at his history, he doesn't like to carry 3 QB's. As far as coaches in this league goes Jay is pretty straight forward and honest most of the time. And when he does go coach speak it's usually not hard to read between the lines with him.

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Could they not carry Colt on the "practice squad"?

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1225267]Could they not carry Colt on the "practice squad"?[/QUOTE]No.

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[quote=Giantone;1225267]Could they not carry Colt on the "practice squad"?[/quote]

Come on man do you follow the NFL? Guys with more than two seasons in the NFL are ineligible for the practice squad.

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......Yes I follow the NFL , I do not however follow the "practice squad".

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[quote=MTK;1225265]Just look at his history, he doesn't like to carry 3 QB's. As far as coaches in this league goes Jay is pretty straight forward and honest most of the time. And when he does go coach speak it's usually not hard to read between the lines with him.[/quote]

Jay is pretty honest overall and the truth is that Colt will stay in shape off the team and only be a phone call away if needed.

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[quote=Warthog;1225328]Jay is pretty honest overall and the truth is that Colt will stay in shape off the team and only be a phone call away if needed.[/quote]

If he is let go I seriously doubt he would get picked up by another team. He will be on the couch Sundays watching the NFL, drinking and eating like the rest of us.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1225329]If he is let go I seriously doubt he would get picked up by another team. He will be on the coach Sundays watching the NFL, drinking and eating like the rest of us.[/quote]

Agreed. I doubt any team wants him as a backup. His value to Jay is that he knows the Redskisn playbook and the offense and WR. He's young enough to stay in football shape and if they need him he'll be there immediately.

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Someone will pick him up at some point. Did anyone think Josh johnson would ever play another down of nfl football? Probably not....js

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1225337]Someone will pick him up at some point. Did anyone think Josh johnson would ever play another down of nfl football? Probably not....js[/quote]

That was a pretty extreme circumstance, the Redskins basically needed a 4th team QB.

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Colt would definitely find a backup job somewhere else if released.

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I would keep Colt simply because he can come in and start for a week or two. He'll be able to run the offense. He can also come off the bench and play well if needed.

Moving forward the Redskins need to start drafting a QB every year. Guys get hurt, under perform. They have totally mismanaged the QB position for too many years.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1225352]I would keep Colt simply because he can come in and start for a week or two. He'll be able to run the offense. He can also come off the bench and play well if needed.



Moving forward the Redskins need to start drafting a QB every year. Guys get hurt, under perform. They have totally mismanaged the QB position for too many years.[/QUOTE]

I agree with keeping Colt McCoy, but I disagree with Drafing a QB every year.

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[quote=kct1975;1225353]I agree with keeping Colt McCoy, but I disagree with Drafing a QB every year.

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If Haskins doesn't show true franchise QB potential by 2021 , I would look at another QB early but I believe he will

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I def think we should keep Colt on the team. I anxiously await him entering a meaningless game, during the meaningless season, only to be blindsides and broken. It is his destiny.

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[quote=RobH4413;1225355]I def think we should keep Colt on the team. I anxiously await him entering a meaningless game, during the meaningless season, only to be blindsides and broken. It is his destiny.[/quote]

no shit. Another example of Jay's guy doing zilch for this team.

Could cut him and Vernon Davis and invested in a decent TE, because Jordan Reed destiny is calling already.

Can we get a poll up on either what Reed will injure first or the amount of games missed this year?

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Colt is so bad, I really don't understand the love he gets from some fans. The dude can never ever stay healthy and when he does play it's at a very avg level.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1225357]Colt is so bad, I really don't understand the love he gets from some fans. The dude can never ever stay healthy and when he does play it's at a very avg level.[/quote]

Didn't his one win as a Redskin come against the Cowboys? I think that is the team Redskin fans hate most, I know I do.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1225359]Didn't his one win as a Redskin come against the Cowboys? I think that is the team Redskin fans hate most, I know I do.[/QUOTE]On Monday night?!?!?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1225357]Colt is so bad, I really don't understand the love he gets from some fans. The dude can never ever stay healthy and when he does play it's at a very avg level.[/quote]


[quote=Buffalo Bob;1225359]Didn't his one win as a Redskin come against the Cowboys? I think that is the team Redskin fans hate most, I know I do.[/quote]


[quote=DYoungJelly;1225360]On Monday night?!?!?

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I just looked it up, it was Monday night, on the road and the 20-17 win came in OT plus the Cowboys were 6-1 before the game. Since he is 0-1 in the play-offs and has a .444 winning percentage that would be considered an epic win for a Jay Gruden coached team. That was almost 5 years ago and Colt has been nothing but a disappointment since then.

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I wouldn't be shocked if Colt wins the job in camp. If he's healthy he's got a big edge on Keenum as far as knowing the offense inside and out.