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[quote=mooby;1242561]+10000

And until we get reports of Rivera giving Haskins "game tape" to study at home (which is actually a blank cd), and then Haskins comes in the next day talking about how the game tape looks good, I'm not worried.[/quote]

I think Haskins will be fine, but if I am Rivera, I would have to give that a try. That's too funny.

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How about Rivers as a low cost veteran backup?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1242549]It is OBJECTIVE to state that Haskins:

- Has had multiple former college team mates state that he's not completely devoted to and focused on football
- Had multiple reports during the early parts of the season that he was not putting in the work and effort because he was entitled and miffed that he was not just handed the starting job
- Was reported that he did not know the playbook and that Adrian Peterson talked to him about it
- Was not viewed by his coach as being ready to start for these reasons, not his skill
- Did not earn the starting job until he had a come to Jesus talk with Callahan, begin to improve on these things, with the help of Alex Smith as a mentor
- Was seen on the sideline talking AT his veteran offensive line asking what he could do to help them. They did not show the appearance of receiving his comments favorably
- Missed the last snap of a play to take a selfie with a fan
- Missed the Head Coaches introductory press conference
- Tweeted that he was ready to get to work, yet has not been reported to have met with coaches or been to Redskins Park

These are all OBJECTIVE facts.

Whether one thinks none of this matters, or is a sign of a troubling pattern, is SUBJECTIVE.[/quote]

Are you serious w/ this nonsense? By all accounts he was starting to come around at the end of the year. He is a very young kid put in a very tough spot. Let him grow into his role as a leader. You don't walk out of one year of college and become the team leader.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1242569]How about Rivers as a low cost veteran backup?[/quote]

Rivers ain't coming here. Why would he move all the way across country w/ 100 kids to be a backup?

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I don’t see Rivers as a backup or low cost


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[quote=MTK;1242598]I don’t see Rivers as a backup or low cost[/quote]

The only way Rivers ends up here is if the Skins kidnap him muppet style.

[url]https://youtu.be/FOBILqLviF4[/url]

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1242600]The only way Rivers ends up here is if the Skins kidnap him muppet style.



[url]https://youtu.be/FOBILqLviF4[/url][/QUOTE]Glad to see that JR is back. And posting higher quality material then ever.

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[quote=MTK;1242598]I don’t see Rivers as a backup or low cost


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Lol. Hey Philip, how would you like to end your HOF career?

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[quote=mooby;1242561]+10000

I'm disappointed in anyone who took that post seriously.

Unless Haskins is blowing off Rivera's phone calls and telling his teammates he's too busy partying to attend, I couldn't care less why he didn't attend the presser.

And until we get reports of Rivera giving Haskins "game tape" to study at home (which is actually a blank cd), and then Haskins comes in the next day talking about how the game tape looks good, I'm not worried.[/quote]

My bad.. After reading this post, I realized that my comment on your post was more about the situation in my workplace more than what you said in your post. A few of my coworkers are holding grudge against the organization and it was the first thing they talked to me about when I got to the office yesterday. It is frustrating situation for me because the situation is about the rules Medicaid just implemented and my coworkers are holding it against the organization without understanding the full context - Medicaid is the one who implemented the new rules, not the organization.

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[quote=GridIron26;1242605]My bad.. After reading this post, I realized that my comment on your post was more about the situation in my workplace more than what you said in your post. A few of my coworkers are holding grudge against the organization and it was the first thing they talked to me about when I got to the office yesterday. It is frustrating situation for me because the situation is about the rules Medicaid just implemented and my coworkers are holding it against the organization without understanding the full context - Medicaid is the one who implemented the new rules, not the organization.[/quote]

No worries dude :food-smil

I think it's a symptom of the digital age, people are just quick to rush to judgement without taking context or all the info into account.

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[quote=mooby;1242606]No worries dude :food-smil

I think it's a symptom of the digital age, people are just quick to rush to judgement without taking context or all the info into account.[/quote]

Indeed.. Although, the more I read about history, the more I realize that people haven't changed that much.. Just that the technology has intensified humans' flaws.

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BHA nobody is wrong more often than you are.

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So ... I am fine with the housecleaning. Remove Allen and Gruden and any vestiges of the prior regime by root and claw. As someone has already pointed out, trading out the Skins staff/FO for Carolina's staff/FO is an upgrade.

Further, both his OC and DC are different from his time there. He may have been familiar with both but they were not in these roles while he coached Carolina. Further, as much as many wanted an untested KOC, RR still went with a shiny young coach in his first stint as OC in Turner. He provided Turner a staff with whom Turner and RR were familiar to help the 1st time OC find his feet.

As to the FO, again, I would rather RR have a FO he is confident in then one that may be on a different page - even if he moves on from people we think are talented.

Preliminarily, I just don't think parting ways with Schaffer is a body blow to the organization. Sure, he is talented, but, truthfully, I don't recall Carolina having "cap hell" problems. Was Schaeffer more than a money guy? I think but did he bring an irreplaceable skill set to an otherwise number crunching position? Not sure. Find it hard to believe though. Moving Doug Williams to a senior mentoring position seems a good fit for him. I had hoped he was an Ozzie Newsome in the making but get the feeling he really did not have the "it" factor that Ozzie and other successful personnel guys have.
I do think Kyle Smith has that though and the fact he is not out of the building yet may mean that he is getting a longer look. I would not be surprised, however, if Santos is gone after the draft.

There are reports that both RR and the Skins draft folks (read: K. Smith) both love Chase Young. This may be a point of commonality for them going forward and something on which to build a working relationship.

Finally, the authority given to RR by DS is pretty evident. The decision to move on from Schaeffer is huge b/c he was also the General Counsel to the Skins meaning he had Snyder's ear and was likely someone on whom DS relied for more than just player personnel and capology advice. The fact that he is now gone should send a clear message to the entire organization that Riverboat Ron is running the show now and that DS is all good with that.

RR is the new authority in town and I am ALL good with that.

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[quote=MTK;1242598]I don’t see Rivers as a backup or low cost


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He could land in Chicago , I think a solid backup for us could be Mariota

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1242615]So ... I am fine with the housecleaning. Remove Allen and Gruden and any vestiges of the prior regime by root and claw. As someone has already pointed out, trading out the Skins staff/FO for Carolina's staff/FO is an upgrade.



Further, both his OC and DC are different from his time there. He may have been familiar with both but they were not in these roles while he coached Carolina. Further, as much as many wanted an untested KOC, RR still went with a shiny young coach in his first stint as OC in Turner. He provided Turner a staff with whom Turner and RR were familiar to help the 1st time OC find his feet.



As to the FO, again, I would rather RR have a FO he is confident in then one that may be on a different page - even if he moves on from people we think are talented.



Preliminarily, I just don't think parting ways with Schaffer is a body blow to the organization. Sure, he is talented, but, truthfully, I don't recall Carolina having "cap hell" problems. Was Schaeffer more than a money guy? I think but did he bring an irreplaceable skill set to an otherwise number crunching position? Not sure. Find it hard to believe though. Moving Doug Williams to a senior mentoring position seems a good fit for him. I had hoped he was an Ozzie Newsome in the making but get the feeling he really did not have the "it" factor that Ozzie and other successful personnel guys have.

I do think Kyle Smith has that though and the fact he is not out of the building yet may mean that he is getting a longer look. I would not be surprised, however, if Santos is gone after the draft.



There are reports that both RR and the Skins draft folks (read: K. Smith) both love Chase Young. This may be a point of commonality for them going forward and something on which to build a working relationship.



Finally, the authority given to RR by DS is pretty evident. The decision to move on from Schaeffer is huge b/c he was also the General Counsel to the Skins meaning he had Snyder's ear and was likely someone on whom DS relied for more than just player personnel and capology advice. The fact that he is now gone should send a clear message to the entire organization that Riverboat Ron is running the show now and that DS is all good with that.



RR is the new authority in town and I am ALL good with that.[/QUOTE]Well said.

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[quote=GridIron26;1242612]Indeed.. Although, the more I read about history, the more I realize that people haven't changed that much.. Just that the technology has intensified humans' flaws.[/quote]

+1

I agree.

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KOC went to the Rams not to call offensive plays but to LEARN under McVay. This means that O’Connell was not the finished product that many of us thought he was. He has potential but we must remember that the Redskins offense was last in the NFL. Some of that was Callahan’s ridiculous adherence to a “run heavy” offense with a banged-up, replacement OL. But I look at McVay as seeing potential in KOC, but NOT ready for prime time.

We’ll see if Scott Turner can bring the Redskin’s offense out of the cellar.


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[quote=Warthog;1242700]KOC went to the Rams not to call offensive plays but to LEARN under McVay. This means that O’Connell was not the finished product that many of us thought he was. He has potential but we must remember that the Redskins offense was last in the NFL. Some of that was Callahan’s ridiculous adherence to a “run heavy” offense with a banged-up, replacement OL. But I look at McVay as seeing potential in KOC, but NOT ready for prime time.

We’ll see if Scott Turner can bring the Redskin’s offense out of the cellar.


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Wrong, he went to become Matt LaFleur part 2, the Rams offense went downhill after he left last year. You are underestimating KOC.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1242603]Lol. Hey Philip, how would you like to end your HOF career?[/quote]

I don’t see Phillip Rivers as a HOFer. You up got to bring more to the table than 4000 yard regular season stats to get a jacket.

Exhibit A: His career playoff record is 3-4.

Exhibit B: He has never played in a Super Bowl.

Exhibit C: His career playoff stats are as follows:

Game 1 (Loss, 24-21 vs. New England): 14-32, 230 YD, 0 TD, 1 INT.

Game 2 (Win, 17-6 vs. Tennessee): 19-30, 292 YD, 1TD, 1 INT.

Game 3 (Win, 28-24 vs. Indianapolis): 14-19, 264 YD, 3 TD, 1 INT.

Game 4 (Loss, 21-12 vs. New England): 19-37, 211 YD, 0 TD, 2 INT.

Game 5 (Win, 23-17 vs. Indianapolis): 20-36, 217 YD, 0 TD, 1 INT.

Game 6 (Loss, 35-24 vs. Pittsburgh): 21-35, 308 YD, 3 TD, 1 INT.

Game 7 (Loss, 17-14 vs. NYJ): 27-40, 298 YD, 1 TD, 2 INT.

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[quote=Warthog;1242700]KOC went to the Rams not to call offensive plays but to LEARN under McVay. This means that O’Connell was not the finished product that many of us thought he was. He has potential but we must remember that the Redskins offense was last in the NFL. Some of that was Callahan’s ridiculous adherence to a “run heavy” offense with a banged-up, replacement OL. But I look at McVay as seeing potential in KOC, but NOT ready for prime time.

We’ll see if Scott Turner can bring the Redskin’s offense out of the cellar.


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Who thought KOC was a finished product? He called like a quarter of the season last year LOL. It was obvious to anyone interested in him that he would be available as OC and/or playcaller, obviously he's not ready for primetime yet.

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[URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/one-important-thing-ron-rivera-will-bring-redskins-according-nfl-agent"]One important thing that Ron Rivera will bring to the Redskins, according to an NFL agent [/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1243504][URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/one-important-thing-ron-rivera-will-bring-redskins-according-nfl-agent"]One important thing that Ron Rivera will bring to the Redskins, according to an NFL agent [/URL][/quote]

Man I cant wait for JULY!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1242712]Wrong, he went to become Matt LaFleur part 2, the Rams offense went downhill after he left last year. You are underestimating KOC.[/quote]

The Titans offense got better once LaFleur left.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1243516]The Titans offense got better once LaFleur left.[/quote]

To be fair, the offense got better when Tannehill replaced Mariota..

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[quote=GridIron26;1243522]To be fair, the offense got better when Tannehill replaced Mariota..[/quote]

There’s the money shot right there.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1242712]Wrong, he went to become Matt LaFleur part 2, the Rams offense went downhill after he left last year. You are underestimating KOC.[/QUOTE]







I’m not underestimating KOC. He might turn out to be a great OC or possibly even a good or better HC outside the Redskins organization, as others obviously haves done who left this dumpster fire. However, he’s probably not ready for prime time, RIGHT NOW. He’s going to learn under McVay and will be used to design plays for the offense.



The Redskins were the 32nd in terms of offense. Mostly it was Gruden and Callahan. But any team would be crazy to move KOC right to a OC spot after he ran the worse offense in the NFL and until they’re sure he really has what it takes to have that much responsibility. KOC may be great one day, but for now he’s going to learn under the master.





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The Carolina Panthers mismanaged Cam Newton’s injuries for the last few years before they released him, the quarterback’s former teammate Mike Tolbert said in an interview Monday.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/sports/panthers-mismanaged-cam-newton-injuries-ex-teammate-says[/url]

Former player basically questions panthers decision to hold off on 2 different surgeries at 2 different times. Sounds like it’s the old “let’s hold off on surgery, see if you can play and win some games because if you have surgery now before the season starts then this is a lame duck season right out of the gate” approach. The old “LHOOS, SIYCPAWSGBIYHSNBTSSTTIALDSROOTG”.

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[quote=SunnySide;1252228]The Carolina Panthers mismanaged Cam Newton’s injuries for the last few years before they released him, the quarterback’s former teammate Mike Tolbert said in an interview Monday.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/sports/panthers-mismanaged-cam-newton-injuries-ex-teammate-says[/url]

Former player basically questions panthers decision to hold off on 2 different surgeries at 2 different times. Sounds like it’s the old “let’s hold off on surgery, see if you can play and win some games because if you have surgery now before the season starts then this is a lame duck season right out of the gate” approach. [B]The old “LHOOS, SIYCPAWSGBIYHSNBTSSTTIALDSROOTG”.[/B][/quote]

LOL! Yes, that management approach is common enough in the NFL to have its own acronym.

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RR did a 30 min plus zoom press conf with the media today. I caught the last 10 mins or so. Nothing much stands out except RR sounds like a very prepared, detailed oriented person. Which I like. Worry about what you can control. Your attention to details, team preparedness.

- adding a vet -- he said he wants to see what the young guys on the roster have first, then they may add if a player doesnt develop as fast as they hoped.

- LT, CB and WR were the groups he singled out as being excited to see what they in the young guys before considering bringing in a vet.

- disappointed he didnt get to address the team in person to start to get a feel for the room and had to do a team meeting via zoom.

- Proud of how Haskins and Chase have supported the protests.

- he made a statement re the civil unrest in the beginning that I missed but they said he had the right tone, message and approach

- he will support any players that want to kneel

- Snyder is donating 250k to a cause

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Sunny side, you make a really good point here: RR is saving spots in case young players don’t perform or grow as much as he’d like. The Redskins have an Uber amount of cash in the 2020 cap, as well as open spots, in order to pick up players dumped from other teams. I think we’ll see a half dozen players signed near the end of TC/PS, as other teams make the tough cuts of good players that they have to let go due to cap space or too many players in one position. I saw that da Bears have 10 TE. We might get a good TE from that group. Lol.


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Here's a breakdown of the coverages the Panthers used since 2015 and where that ranks:

- cover 1: 16% (32nd)
- cover 2: 9.5% (22nd)
- cover 3: 34.7% (7th)
- cover 4: 22% (1st)
- cover 6: 8.3% (13th)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1253108]Here's a breakdown of the coverages the Panthers used since 2015 and where that ranks:

- cover 1: 16% (32nd)
- cover 2: 9.5% (22nd)
- cover 3: 34.7% (7th)
- cover 4: 22% (1st)
- cover 6: 8.3% (13th)[/quote]

Coverages all have pros and cons. All based on talent and what your talent is good at.

All things being equal I like Cover 1 with a single high safety.

But if you don't have a minimum of 2 good man on man guys and no worse than a solid FS, this defense would get abused.

Don't like C2 for us because I don't think we have the LBs to be able to get back in the deepish middle between the safeties.

C3 would be my 2nd favorite coverage. I think we could be OK here.

C4, I think NFL QBs are too good to play this defense on a regular basis. Death by a 1000 cuts. Rather play more aggressive and get burnt deep from time to time.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1253111]Don't like C2 for us because I don't think we have the LBs to be able to get back in the deepish middle between the safeties.[/quote]

Just to point out that's Tampa 2 not Cover 2. But yeah, needs a good cover MLB for T2. Regular C2 needs good S's that can sniff the deep threat quickly as they have more ground to cover.

And C4 should only really be used in 2nd/3rd and long, and even then usually in game chasing scenarios. Like you say, death of 1000 cuts if used as a general coverage scheme.

I too like predominantly C3, especially disguised as C2 or C4.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1253111]Coverages all have pros and cons. All based on talent and what your talent is good at.



All things being equal I like Cover 1 with a single high safety.



But if you don't have a minimum of 2 good man on man guys and no worse than a solid FS, this defense would get abused.



Don't like C2 for us because I don't think we have the LBs to be able to get back in the deepish middle between the safeties.



C3 would be my 2nd favorite coverage. I think we could be OK here.



C4, I think NFL QBs are too good to play this defense on a regular basis. Death by a 1000 cuts. Rather play more aggressive and get burnt deep from time to time.[/QUOTE]One thing though. I don't know how much it is being used in the NFL, but the Cover 4 can used as a base coverage where on every play both safeties can audible their half of the field to a more specific coverage. I've seen it called Quarter defense.
Point being I'm not sure this stats means 22% of snaps where actually played with 4 players playing deep coverage.

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[quote=SunnySide;1252795]RR did a 30 min plus zoom press conf with the media today. I caught the last 10 mins or so. Nothing much stands out except RR sounds like a very prepared, detailed oriented person. Which I like. Worry about what you can control. Your attention to details, team preparedness.

- adding a vet -- he said he wants to see what the young guys on the roster have first, then they may add if a player doesnt develop as fast as they hoped.

- LT, CB and WR were the groups he singled out as being excited to see what they in the young guys before considering bringing in a vet.

- disappointed he didnt get to address the team in person to start to get a feel for the room and had to do a team meeting via zoom.

- Proud of how Haskins and Chase have supported the protests.

- he made a statement re the civil unrest in the beginning that I missed but they said he had the right tone, message and approach

- he will support any players that want to kneel

- Snyder is donating 250k to a cause[/quote] I think Haskins and Young need to focus on being the best they can be for this up and coming football season. I'm disappointed that anyone on this team would support this idiotic cult-like movement. We have a bunch of America hating Marxists out here rioting, looting, vandalizing statues, and burning down buildings based on a false narrative. The last stats we have on police shooting unarmed black suspects were back in 2018. Based on those numbers only nine unarmed black people were shot by police out of 44 million. On the flip side, we have black on black crime, which contributes to on average around 7000 black deaths per year. This is by far the highest murder rate in the country. So if we get rid of all the police on black shootings it wouldn't crack a dent in the black murder rate. Now let me ask you a question. We have black on black homicide cause seven thousand murders in a year and on the other side we have police responsible for nine murders in a year. Which one is the bigger issue? One of the problems with the left-wing morons who control the black community is that they have been very successful at making very minor issues that don't make a difference into big issues, while completely ignoring the huge issues that are devastating the black community. This is why black people will remain at the bottom.

Ron Rivera doesn't deserve any credit at all for supporting the kneelers. We have plenty of cucks around the league and all on sports news doing that. If he had any real balls who would have stood up for the country instead of siding with the very people who want to destroy it. It doesn't take a lot of courage to go along with the mob.

[quote=Warthog;1253082]Sunny side, you make a really good point here: RR is saving spots in case young players don’t perform or grow as much as he’d like. The Redskins gave an Uber amount of cash in the 2020 cap, as well as open spots, in order to pick up players dumped from other teams. I think we’ll see a half dozen players signed near the end of TC/PS, as other teams make the tough cuts of good players that they have to let go due to cap space or too many players in one position. I saw that da Bears have 10 TE. We might get a good TE from that well. Lol.


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[quote=httr198020;1253128][B]I think Haskins and Young need to focus on being the best they can be for this up and coming football season. I'm disappointed that anyone on this team would support this idiotic cult-like movement. We have a bunch of America hating Marxists out here rioting, looting, vandalizing statues, and burning down buildings based on a false narrative. The last stats we have on police shooting unarmed black suspects were back in 2018. Based on those numbers only nine unarmed black people were shot by police out of 44 million. On the flip side, we have black on black crime, which contributes to on average around 7000 black deaths per year. This is by far the highest murder rate in the country. So if we get rid of all the police on black shootings it wouldn't crack a dent in the black murder rate. Now let me ask you a question. We have black on black homicide cause seven thousand murders in a year and on the other side we have police responsible for nine murders in a year. Which one is the bigger issue? One of the problems with the left-wing morons who control the black community is that they have been very successful at making very minor issues that don't make a difference into big issues, while completely ignoring the huge issues that are devastating the black community. This is why black people will remain at the bottom.
[/B]
Ron Rivera doesn't deserve any credit at all for supporting the kneelers. We have plenty of cucks around the league and all on sports news doing that. If he had any real balls who would have stood up for the country instead of siding with the very people who want to destroy it. It doesn't take a lot of courage to go along with the mob.

I agree.[/quote]

Very brave of you, you'll get a lot of stick for that. ;)

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[quote=httr198020;1253128]I think Haskins and Young need to focus on being the best they can be for this up and coming football season. I'm disappointed that anyone on this team would support this idiotic cult-like movement. We have a bunch of America hating Marxists out here rioting, looting, vandalizing statues, and burning down buildings based on a false narrative. The last stats we have on police shooting unarmed black suspects were back in 2018. Based on those numbers only nine unarmed black people were shot by police out of 44 million. On the flip side, we have black on black crime, which contributes to on average around 7000 black deaths per year. This is by far the highest murder rate in the country. So if we get rid of all the police on black shootings it wouldn't crack a dent in the black murder rate. Now let me ask you a question. We have black on black homicide cause seven thousand murders in a year and on the other side we have police responsible for nine murders in a year. Which one is the bigger issue? One of the problems with the left-wing morons who control the black community is that they have been very successful at making very minor issues that don't make a difference into big issues, while completely ignoring the huge issues that are devastating the black community. This is why black people will remain at the bottom.

Ron Rivera doesn't deserve any credit at all for supporting the kneelers. We have plenty of cucks around the league and all on sports news doing that. [B]If he had any real balls who would have stood up for the country instead of siding with the very people who want to destroy it. It doesn't take a lot of courage to go along with the mob.[/B]

I agree.[/quote]

Easily the strongest comment I’ve read on the board in years.

Preach...right now, data and facts be damned...

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[quote=httr198020;1253128]I think Haskins and Young need to focus on being the best they can be for this up and coming football season. I'm disappointed that anyone on this team would support this idiotic cult-like movement. We have a bunch of America hating Marxists out here rioting, looting, vandalizing statues, and burning down buildings based on a false narrative. The last stats we have on police shooting unarmed black suspects were back in 2018. Based on those numbers only nine unarmed black people were shot by police out of 44 million. On the flip side, we have black on black crime, which contributes to on average around 7000 black deaths per year. This is by far the highest murder rate in the country. So if we get rid of all the police on black shootings it wouldn't crack a dent in the black murder rate. Now let me ask you a question. We have black on black homicide cause seven thousand murders in a year and on the other side we have police responsible for nine murders in a year. Which one is the bigger issue? One of the problems with the left-wing morons who control the black community is that they have been very successful at making very minor issues that don't make a difference into big issues, while completely ignoring the huge issues that are devastating the black community. This is why black people will remain at the bottom.

Ron Rivera doesn't deserve any credit at all for supporting the kneelers. We have plenty of cucks around the league and all on sports news doing that. If he had any real balls who would have stood up for the country instead of siding with the very people who want to destroy it. It doesn't take a lot of courage to go along with the mob.

I agree.[/quote]

This is the so far the dumbest thing I've read on this site.

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Httr — eat a snickers and breath man. It’s going to be okay. I heard each stadium will establish an emotional safe space for fans who feel threatened by the kneelers so they can be protected during the national anthem.

Then teams are instructed to wait for 8:49 seconds prior to kick off so the more emotionally sensitive fans amongst us have time to get back to their seats.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1253145]This is the so far the dumbest thing I've read on this site.[/quote]
That is because you lack the mental capacity to think rationally. I got irrefutable evidence to prove everything I said about black on black homicide and police shootings. Instead of offering a rebuttal to my valid, accurate assessment of the radical left in this country. You decided to make a weak, idiotic, baseless statement.

I][/I][quote=SunnySide;1253146]Httr — eat a snickers and breath man. It’s going to be okay. I heard each stadium will establish an emotional safe space for fans who feel threatened by the kneelers so they can be protected during the national anthem.

Then teams are instructed to wait for 8:49 seconds prior to kick off so the more emotionally sensitive fans amongst us have time to get back to their seats.[/quote] Why don't you answer my question instead of trying to be condescending? We have black on black homicide that kills thousands of black men. Police killings of unarmed blacks didn't even crack double digits. Which one is the biggest threat to black people? Which one is the more serious issue?

QUOTE=Chico23231;1253139]Easily the strongest comment I’ve read on the board in years.

Preach...right now, data and facts be damned...[/QUOTE]

I have all the data on my side. What is sad is that I can bet this guy is so brainwashed he probably believes police brutality is a bigger issue than black on black crime even though thousands of more black men die at the hands of black men than the police. Most black people are all heart and no brains. Reason and logic just don't matter.