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[quote=MTK;1254344]What was your old name?[/quote]

Can I plead the 5th?

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[quote=JackLord;1254356]Were it an issue of the Free Market, then sponsors would let the market decide. If the issue hurt the Skins' bottom line- a highly unlikely scenario- then the sponsors would mobilize. But they are not waiting for that. They are doing what scores of other people and organizations are doing- capitulating to the woke mobs.

Snyder is most certainly being forced to change the name.[/quote]

They did let the market decide and their investors worth $620 billion told them to part ways with the Redskins if they don't change their name.

Brand image is just as part of free market as $. Right now the brand imagery of the Redskins on the NFL is not positive. You can thank DS and his lack of business acumen for that. The Native American mascot imagery is not favorable for myriad of reasons. Some of that can also be blamed on DS handling of the situation.

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[quote=MTK;1254343]The way I see it if you're in a group of people telling others what shouldn't bother them, you're just as bad as those telling others what should bother them.

It's not a stretch to think a word that's defined in the dictionary as being racist, is offensive to some people. Would we even consider naming a team today Redskins? Of course not.[/quote]

To be fair the Definition of Redskin has been changed over the years to add that language and they use the term offensive not racist.

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[quote=JackLord;1254356]Were it an issue of the Free Market, then sponsors would let the market decide. If the issue hurt the Skins' bottom line- a highly unlikely scenario- then the sponsors would mobilize. But they are not waiting for that. They are doing what scores of other people and organizations are doing- capitulating to the woke mobs.

Snyder is most certainly being forced to change the name.[/quote]

This.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1254358]They did let the market decide and their investors worth $620 billion told them to part ways with the Redskins if they don't change their name.

Brand image is just as part of free market as $. Right now the brand imagery of the Redskins on the NFL is not positive. You can thank DS and his lack of business acumen for that. The Native American mascot imagery is not favorable for myriad of reasons. Some of that can also be blamed on DS handling of the situation.[/quote]

Investors who are inexplicably capitulating to the mob. Never a let a good crisis go to waste. That is not the Free Market. That is appeasement. The Redskins are but one example.

The Market is you and I plus the rest of the NFL fandom. And evidence has already indicated that the vast majority of the population could possibly care less.

The Redskins brand is very positive. They are one of the oldest teams in the league and have produced some great players. Their helmet logo was designed by a Native American.

Snyder certainly could have handled it better, no doubt. But he was not even born when the team was named the Redskins.

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[quote=Back2RFK;1254357]Can I plead the 5th?[/quote]

If you do you'll just be banned anyway :D

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[quote=MTK;1254364]If you do you'll just be banned anyway :D[/quote]

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I have been a Redskins fan longer than most of you have been alive. I met Turk Edwards, saw Sammy Baugh, Joe Theisman, John Riggins, Sam Huff, the Fun Bunch, the Hogs and many, many more play (not on tv either). I even remember the Frank Budd disaster. It doesn't matter what the team name is, they will always be the Redskins to me. It is Washington football, support them. I will remain a fan regardless of the name. However, if they name the team the Washington Pansies, Pink Ladies or something similar, there is a imit.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1254360]This.[/QUOTE]



LOL. The woke mobs is the racist way of saying the non whites are misbehaving. God forbid people WAKE UP to the social inequalities in the country. And after years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate groups the “woke” people get branded the violent ones for wanting to be heard. Like I said you are all either racist or fuckin stupid.

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[QUOTE=Back2RFK;1254359]To be fair the Definition of Redskin has been changed over the years to add that language and they use the term offensive not racist.[/QUOTE]



Than maybe me calling you a moron will be ok in a hundred years....

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[quote=punch it in;1254368]LOL. The woke mobs is the racist way of saying the non whites are misbehaving. God forbid people WAKE UP to the social inequalities in the country. And after years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate groups the “woke” people get branded the violent ones for wanting to be heard. [B]Like I said you are all either racist or fuckin stupid[/B].[/quote]

More personal attacks from punch.

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[quote=MTK;1254343]The way I see it if you're in a group of people telling others what shouldn't bother them, you're just as bad as those telling others what should bother them.

It's not a stretch to think a word that's defined in the dictionary as being racist, is offensive to some people. Would we even consider naming a team today Redskins? Of course not.[/quote]

In all fairness, I didn't see the term defined in the dictionary as racist. Derogatory or contemptuous, but not necessarily racist. There is a difference.

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[quote=Chico23231;1254370]More personal attacks from punch.[/quote]

Looks pretty blatant to me. Personal attacks and racist.

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[quote=metalskins;1254371]In all fairness, I didn't see the term defined in the dictionary as racist. Derogatory or contemptuous, but not necessarily racist. There is a difference.[/quote]

Let’s not split hairs

[quote] Redskin is a slang term for Native Americans in the United States and First Nations in Canada. The term "redskin" underwent pejoration through the 19th to early 20th centuries and in contemporary dictionaries of American English it is labeled "usually offensive", "disparaging", "insulting", or "taboo".[/quote]

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[quote=punch it in;1254368]LOL. The woke mobs is the racist way of saying the non whites are misbehaving. God forbid people WAKE UP to the social inequalities in the country. And after years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate groups the “woke” people get branded the violent ones for wanting to be heard. Like I said you are all either racist or fuckin stupid.[/quote]
Go somewhere with that bullshit! I am 100% black American and proud of it. There is nothing racist about calling out a bunch of authoritarian, anti-American, scumbag marxists. There will always be inequalities as long as people have freedom of choice. For example, if i choose to break the law and get a felon conviction it will be harder for me to get a job. If i choose not to pay my bills on time it will be harder for me to get a loan. Which will make it almost impossible to start a business, buy a home, buy car, etc. You get out of life what you put into it. Simple as that. The woke mob is branded as violent because they are.

We have seen riot.

[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p5w0v8XsI9I&t=38s[/url]

After riot

[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aH7yi0FmZEk[/url]

After riot

[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ujtPygMy1I8&t=68s[/url]

After riot

[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RiXoLRSBd68[/url]

Shall i continue? Do you now see why anyone with a functioning brain would view these people as violent? The woke mob are a bunch of animals who wants to destroy everything and everyone they dislike. This isn't about justice for black people. Its all about leftists taking control of everything and they are using stupid ass black people to do it.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1254355]I have no clue how you can say this is anything but free market. Sponsors are pulling money. They are doing so because of their image with consumers. Other NFL owners are fed up with Dan hurting the image of their product. Nobody is forcing Dan to change the name but he will have to deal with the ramifications if he doesn't.[/quote]
You are totally ignorant. The free market is about competition between private businesses. The consumers of Redskins football are Redskins fans. How many Redskins fans are demanding a name change? How many NFL fans are demanding a name change? All of this is coming from a small group of powerful people.

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[quote=MTK;1254377]Let’s not split hairs[/quote]

heyyy!! no scalping jokes!!! too early!!!

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[quote=punch it in;1254368]LOL. The woke mobs is the racist way of saying the non whites are misbehaving. God forbid people WAKE UP to the social inequalities in the country. And after years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate groups the “woke” people get branded the violent ones for wanting to be heard. Like I said you are all either racist or fuckin stupid.[/quote]

Are you denying there are "woke mobs"? Where have you been the past couple months? Hear of places like Minneapolis, Seattle, NYC? At this point you are denying reality.

Social inequities today in the US are about the color green, not black and brown.

White hate crimes? LOL. Welcome to this century dude. Look up stats from other sources, and they will all be similar to this (Just to be clear, in this chart black deaths add up to 100%, white deaths add up to 100%):
[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/F-Vvag7xPOFj81AxWrRYIcgWkxfI-XcskVw50Dw5lXTAYv8B5Agb3K1qcUbEFFIAsmss2-GyZCorvd0rguxRcKRLHisVxz5ISq6ZqWIBmanhvr_MW8aFzf18GKfH19h0adcE8Pvc[/IMG]

There is racism and stupidity. Unfortunately (or ironically good if blind egalitarianism is your goal) racism goes both ways. In terms of murder, opposite what you say. The Left has cornered the market of stupidity, however.

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[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1254395]Are you denying there are "woke mobs"? Where have you been the past couple months? Hear of places like Minneapolis, Seattle, NYC? At this point you are denying reality.



Social inequities today in the US are about the color green, not black and brown.



White hate crimes? LOL. Welcome to this century dude. Look up stats from other sources, and they will all be similar to this (Just to be clear, in this chart black deaths add up to 100%, white deaths add up to 100%):

[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/F-Vvag7xPOFj81AxWrRYIcgWkxfI-XcskVw50Dw5lXTAYv8B5Agb3K1qcUbEFFIAsmss2-GyZCorvd0rguxRcKRLHisVxz5ISq6ZqWIBmanhvr_MW8aFzf18GKfH19h0adcE8Pvc[/IMG]



There is racism and stupidity. Unfortunately (or ironically good if blind egalitarianism is your goal) racism goes both ways. In terms of murder, opposite what you say. The Left has cornered the market of stupidity, however.[/QUOTE]



Because black on black crime has nothing to do with us putting them where they are? Another right wing white nut job who speaks in memes. Gtfoh. And yeah chico and metal - another one who has blatantly been racist on this board - your damn straight im calling you out. Because if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat? Guess what? Metal ...”looks pretty blatant to me boss”. LMAO. GO SCRATCH

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1254370]More personal attacks from punch.[/QUOTE]



Call em like I see em snowflake

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[quote=punch it in;1254368]LOL. The woke mobs is the racist way of saying the non whites are misbehaving. God forbid people WAKE UP to the social inequalities in the country. And after years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate groups the “woke” people get branded the violent ones for wanting to be heard. Like I said you are all either racist or fuckin stupid.[/quote]

What's this? Anyone who disagrees with you is a racist? How original.

The woke people are the violent ones. Vandalism, toppling statues, seizing control of city neighborhoods and posting armed 'guards', attacking cops, setting fire to churches, and attacking people with whom they disagree. Real peace and love stuff, all that.

With regards to [I]"years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate group"[/I], I sincerely doubt it is they causing the mayhem we all see in places like Chicago, Detroit, and even DC.

Current events and statistics. You might want to take a less skewed look. And perhaps calm down and make your point without slandering and insulting people.

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Dont worry Matty Ill end this. Gonna take a break from this board for a while. Too many good ole boys whose panties are in a bunch because their white wonderland is under scrutiny. Watch out for those liberal mobs fellas. Better sleep with one eye open. LOL.

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[QUOTE=JackLord;1254401]What's this? Anyone who disagrees with you is a racist? How original.



The woke people are the violent ones. Vandalism, toppling statues, seizing control of city neighborhoods and posting armed 'guards', attacking cops, setting fire to churches, and attacking people with whom they disagree. Real peace and love stuff, all that.



With regards to [I]"years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate group"[/I], I sincerely doubt it is they causing the mayhem we all see in places like Chicago, Detroit, and even DC.



Current events and statistics. You might want to take a less skewed look. And perhaps calm down and make your point without slandering and insulting people.[/QUOTE]



Another fuckin good ole boy who shows up just to cry the blues about his oppressed white life, and regurgitate Tucker Carlson bullshit. Your post is utter garbage. All 14 of them are.
Ok now Im done.

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[quote=punch it in;1254402]Dont worry Matty Ill end this. Gonna take a break from this board for a while. Too many good ole boys whose panties are in a bunch because their white wonderland is under scrutiny. Watch out for those liberal mobs fellas. Better sleep with one eye open. LOL.[/quote]

Punch don’t you go far...take a break and come back. I’m tired talking names, ready to talk some games.

We gonna be aight

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Matty, you need to give us a homework assignment and make us read:

[IMG]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41+0ArkCQgL.jpg[/IMG]

Note - I have no idea who the authors are or what their political beliefs are.

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[quote=punch it in;1254403]Another fuckin good ole boy who shows up just to cry the blues about his oppressed white life, and regurgitate Tucker Carlson bullshit. Your post is utter garbage. All 14 of them are.
Ok now Im done.[/quote]

Another uneducated motherfucker pushed through school and now we have to educate them son of a bitch!

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[quote=punch it in;1254402]Dont worry Matty Ill end this. Gonna take a break from this board for a while. Too many good ole boys whose panties are in a bunch because their white wonderland is under scrutiny. Watch out for those liberal mobs fellas. Better sleep with one eye open. LOL.[/quote]

Punch don't let a 19 post poser keep you away for long. Obviously he joined to stir the pot on this issue. Don't let an asshole like that bother you. Take care of yourself.

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[quote=punch it in;1254398]Because black on black crime has nothing to do with us putting them where they are? Another right wing white nut job who speaks in memes. Gtfoh. And yeah chico and metal - another one who has blatantly been racist on this board - your damn straight im calling you out. Because if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat? Guess what? Metal ...”looks pretty blatant to me boss”. LMAO. GO SCRATCH[/quote]Punch, there's a saying: “The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit their views.” Don't be either of those. Do your own research, and open your mind.

Punch, you asserted "years upon years" of "white hate" and "white hate groups". That's not the case now. You're literally prioritizing 3% over 97% of the problem today. And you are the one being racist in the process.


I'm not speaking in memes, I'm giving you facts. If facts make you mad, what does that say about your emotions?

Take care, and hope you adopt a healthier mindset. Hope things get better for you.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1254349]Yeah please take that to the political threads.[/quote]

To be fair, a thread about our name change IS a purely political thread. :D

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[quote=Monkeydad;1254435]To be fair, a thread about our name change IS a purely political thread. :D[/quote]

Exactly

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[quote=Monkeydad;1254435]To be fair, a thread about our name change IS a purely political thread. :D[/quote]

It is, but then when you start bitching about bashing Senators and other stuff, it goes wayyy off topic.

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[quote=irish;1254425]Punch don't let a 19 post poser keep you away for long. Obviously he joined to stir the pot on this issue. Don't let an asshole like that bother you. Take care of yourself.[/quote]


Poser? Stir the pot?

You would think I am the one insulting people.

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Shit got crazy on the boards!

I'm with you Punch but you lost your shit the last couple of days.

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[quote=punch it in;1253629]You think white supremacy doesn’t have a problem with native Americans? My point is just because something used to be racist doesn’t mean it’s ok now. We stole their land. Slaughtered them. Stuck them on reservations and called them Redskins while we were doing it. Chico it is about right and wrong not caving to the mob. Lol.[/quote] There are hardly any white supremacists left. The ones who still around have zero political support. There is not one white person in a position of power who would want their name to be associated with white supremacy or a white supremacist. The accusation alone could cost him or her everything. There is no evidence that white supremacy is a thing. All of the rioting and protesting that's going on is really over a non-issue. While real issues affecting the country, specifically black Americans, are being ignored.

It's funny how you can be so hostile towards white Americans, yet here defending native Americans. Do you know that native Americans were also slave owners? I'm sure you're aware that they also slaughtered, raped, and enslaved people as well, right? Did you know they actually fought for the Confederacy during the American Civil War? My question to you is will you hold their past sins against them or do you only hate white people?

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Interview with Kevin Allis the Chief Executive Officer of the National Congress of American Indians on 105.7 the fan up in Baltimore. Starts around 9:12

[url]https://app.radio.com/zlfSsxFK07[/url]

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Fed Ex threatening to pull signs from Fed Ex Field if no name change.

[url]https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/10/fedex-threatens-redskins-sign-removal-if-no-name-c/[/url]

Snyder really pissed off Fred Smith

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Fred Smith is a little bitch. UPS or bust.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1254632]Fed Ex threatening to pull signs from Fed Ex Field if no name change.

[url]https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/10/fedex-threatens-redskins-sign-removal-if-no-name-c/[/url]

Snyder really pissed off Fred Smith[/quote]

Cry some more Fed Ex!

Fuck these flakes...for the rest of my life I’ll put “Fuck” in front of the fed ex brand. Bunch of pusses

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[quote=Chico23231;1254645]Cry some more Fed Ex!

Fuck these flakes...for the rest of my life I’ll put “Fuck” in front of the fed ex brand. Bunch of pusses[/quote]

I won't use them again...

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1254642]Fred Smith is a little bitch. UPS or bust.[/quote]

Fred Smith tried to get rid Snyder, I'll give him a pass on just about anything.