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Another great pick for Washington!

Dyami Brown was a Round 2 receiver. He's capable of being a Deebo Samuel-type receiver. Very good YAC ability.

Four picks. Four home runs.

Matt Miller

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We certainly are a fast team. That is for sure. On both sides of the ball.

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Kelvin Joseph to Dallas is perfect ... dude is a serious head case. Talented. But trouble.

Like Lloyd Christmas says, I like it a lot.

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Seriously... except a second TE, and admitting Cosmi is ready to start as our LT... do you guys see a legit hole in our roster ?

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1282915]Seriously... except a second TE, and admitting Cosmi is ready to start as our LT... do you guys see a legit hole in our roster ?[/QUOTE]



Not really. FS, K?

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1282915]Seriously... except a second TE, and admitting Cosmi is ready to start as our LT... do you guys see a legit hole in our roster ?[/quote]


Long snapper? Kidding ... kinda.


[B]Safety[/B]. Unless someone moves there.

[B]Linebacker depth[/B]. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if we snagged another one, honestly. Jabril Cox perhaps?

And this may sound silly, but we need to [B]replace Kerrigan[/B] (assuming he finds a home elsewhere) .... So an edge rusher for depth there.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1282917]Long snapper? Kidding ... kinda.


[B]Safety[/B]. Unless someone moves there.

[B]Linebacker depth[/B]. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if we snagged another one, honestly. Jabril Cox perhaps?

And this may sound silly, but we need to [B]replace Kerrigan[/B] (assuming he finds a home elsewhere) .... So an edge rusher for depth there.[/quote]

James Smith-Williams is the Kerrigan replacement

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1282915]Seriously... except a second TE, and admitting Cosmi is ready to start as our LT... do you guys see a legit hole in our roster ?[/quote]

QB,FS,OLB,OLB,b-up RB that can take it to the house,big WR that can actually stay healthy and produce in red zone especially, elite talent on O anywhere, b-up TE.

I think we are much improved from old suckfest days, but gimmie a break with the Kool Aid LOL. If we can get consistent 4-quarter production from O we could be much improved, as our D becomes even more of a monster and can be more aggressive. We still only have 1 truly elite player, Chase Young. SB caliber teams usually have 3-6, including QB. Without an elite QB, none of it really matters though in terms of winning SB.

Still we are much improved. Our FO was competent, which is a miracle compared to days of old, but whether it is brilliant remains to be seen. We reached for need quite a bit.

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Dyami Brown is my favorite pick so far. I would have been happy with him in the 2nd.

This offense is gonna fuck around and be exciting this year. Gonna look a lot different.

Love this pick.

B. Jordan still available. That would be sick.

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[QUOTE=Pervis_Griffith;1282917]Long snapper? Kidding ... kinda.





[B]Safety[/B]. Unless someone moves there.



[B]Linebacker depth[/B]. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if we snagged another one, honestly. Jabril Cox perhaps?



And this may sound silly, but we need to [B]replace Kerrigan[/B] (assuming he finds a home elsewhere) .... So an edge rusher for depth there.[/QUOTE]Definitely agree with those. I'd be in favor of bringing KJ Wright on a 1yr deal or Kwon Alexander if the achille is ok. And some help at safety would be welcomed.

But I wouldn't call Holcomb-Davis-Bostic and Curl-Reaves legit roster holes. You can start games with those guys.

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[QUOTE=Scalper;1282919]QB,FS,OLB,OLB,b-up RB that can take it to the house,big WR that can actually stay healthy and produce in red zone especially, elite talent on O anywhere, b-up TE.



I think we are much improved from old suckfest days, but gimmie a break with the Kool Aid LOL. If we can get consistent 4-quarter production from O we could be much improved, as our D becomes even more of a monster and can be more aggressive. We still only have 1 truly elite player, Chase Young. SB caliber teams usually have 3-6, including QB. Without an elite QB, none of it really matters though in terms of winning SB.



Still we are much improved. Our FO was competent, which is a miracle compared to days of old, but whether it is brilliant remains to be seen. We reached for need quite a bit.[/QUOTE]We're not talking about the same thing. You're saying there are areas we can approve, which is true. I'm saying I don't see a massive obvious hole on this roster. Like last year at the same time I'd have said the left side of our OL, TE and our WR corps where real and obvious weaknesses. Logan Thomas and Wes Schweitzer ended up being real nice surprises. But before the season started those were worrying roster holes. I don't see that on our roster this year.
How it'll actually turn out is a whole different conversation though.

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Yeah as really need to be in the filling up the gaps. And the holes there. As losing Kerrigan is such a very much a huge hole that needs to be that. Filled

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1282922]We're not talking about the same thing. You're saying there are areas we can approve, which is true. I'm saying I don't see a massive obvious hole on this roster. Like last year at the same time I'd have said the left side of our OL, TE and our WR corps where real and obvious weaknesses. Logan Thomas and Wes Schweitzer ended up being real nice surprises. But before the season started those were worrying roster holes. I don't see that on our roster this year.
How it'll actually turn out is a whole different conversation though.

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Free safety. QB. Every linebacker except Davis. Are you kidding me? LOL.

We are much improved man, and being run like a professional franchise for once. Great cause for some optimism. But we are still one more full productive offseason from having all the holes plugged.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1282917]Long snapper? Kidding ... kinda.


[B]Safety[/B]. Unless someone moves there.

[B]Linebacker depth[/B]. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if we snagged another one, honestly. Jabril Cox perhaps?

And this may sound silly, but we need to [B]replace Kerrigan[/B] (assuming he finds a home elsewhere) .... So an edge rusher for depth there.[/quote]

Yup. QB. FS. Another LB. TE. Maybe RB. That's 5 picks we have 4. Fortunately, FO has no choice but to go BPA in 7th round or won't make team. :-) Man you'd hope there is at least 1 QB we like somewhere, but seems like FO just going to let it ride. FS is the one absolutely gaping hole on roster, true high center fielder. A good LB could easily start on this team. Good stuff.

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[QUOTE=Scalper;1282924]Free safety. QB. Every linebacker except Davis. Are you kidding me? LOL.



We are much improved man, and being run like a professional franchise for once. Great cause for some optimism. But we are still one more full productive offseason from having all the holes plugged.[/QUOTE]Come on man Holcomb is a solid player, Curl is exciting and Jeremy Reaves played pretty well.
All I'm saying is there's a world between those guys and having freakin Troy Apke as our starting FS and only one good starting LB.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1282926]Come on man Holcomb is a solid player, Curl is exciting and Jeremy Reaves played pretty well.
All I'm saying is there's a world between those guys and having freakin Troy Apke as our starting FS and only one good starting LB.

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Don’t bother. He is right and the rest of us are wrong. And in a condescending tone and 50,000 words he will let you know.
You are spot on man. There should be no Apkes left on the field after this draft. Thank God.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1282914]Kelvin Joseph to Dallas is perfect ... dude is a serious head case. Talented. But trouble.

Like Lloyd Christmas says, I like it a lot.[/quote]

Asante Samuel jr was just sitting there...he’s a better prospect

They took another dude with character issues

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[quote=punch it in;1282927]Don’t bother. He is right and the rest of us are wrong. And in a condescending tone and 50,000 words he will let you know.
You are spot on man. There should be no Apkes left on the field after this draft. Thank God.[/quote]

LOL, I think you guys are having a great draft so far.

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Looking to grab Tight End and Running Back in the 4th and 5th

Long snapper in the 7th

Call Tre Boston for free safety.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1282914]Kelvin Joseph to Dallas is perfect ... dude is a serious head case. Talented. But trouble.

Like Lloyd Christmas says, I like it a lot.[/quote]

Him and Micah Parsons sounds like a match made in Dallass heaven

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1282922]We're not talking about the same thing. You're saying there are areas we can approve, which is true. I'm saying I don't see a massive obvious hole on this roster. Like last year at the same time I'd have said the left side of our OL, TE and our WR corps where real and obvious weaknesses. Logan Thomas and Wes Schweitzer ended up being real nice surprises. But before the season started those were worrying roster holes. I don't see that on our roster this year.
How it'll actually turn out is a whole different conversation though.

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Agree with you buddy. All teams even great ones have holes. Look at the final four this year Tampa, Green Bay, Buffalo and KC all had issues. Tampa probably most complete team but hey when you fall as backwards into the GOAT at a bargain price and then he convinces his freak of nature friend to unretire that really helps.

We aren't saying we are there yet... but we have the pieces in place to get us there

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The more I read about T Cosmi the better I feel about the pick.
At first I was a little surprised and maybe disappointed.
However I read Cosmi is an excellent athlete with size. His PFF pass pro scores are good. Cosmi ran the fastest 40-yard dash for an offensive lineman at his pro day. He ran the 40 in 4.84 seconds.
Seems like a guy that with help from John Matsko, will develop over time.
Cosmi played HS ball in Texas and College ball in UT, so he has played against top level competition.

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Solid picks in positions of need.

I disagree with the analysts saying QB is an immediate need. It is not for this season. Long-term, yes, but we're good with the trio we have now, especially Fitz.

Offense starting to look scary too...so deep at WR and I don't know who to cut. I feel AGG needs a shot in a normal season, rookies were at a disadvantage last year with no preseason. Wright and Harmon deserve to stay. Sims, Jr. is gone, especially with that return specialist from Houston we signed.

Either LB Jabrill Cox or TE Brevin Jordan needs to be our next pick! I can't believe they're both still available.

Real bummer we could have had JOK as the Browns took him just after us, but Coach Rivera clearly has a plan to fill holes and is sticking to it. Refreshing to see.

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[quote=Defensewins;1282934]The more I read about T Cosmi the better I feel about the pick.
At first I was a little surprised and maybe disappointed.
However I read Cosmi is an excellent athlete with size. His PFF pass pro scores are good. Cosmi ran the fastest 40-yard dash for an offensive lineman at his pro day. He ran the 40 in 4.84 seconds.
Seems like a guy that with help from John Matsko, will develop over time.
Cosmi played HS ball in Texas and College ball in UT, so he has played against top level competition.[/quote]

Read THIS: (bolded)


Washington Football Team selected Texas OT Samuel Cosmi with the No. 51 overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft.

Cosmi [B](6’7/310)[/B], ranked outside the top-100 OTs in his recruiting class by the 247Sports composite, vastly exceeded expectations in college as a three-year starter and two-time All-Big 12 selection.[B] Cosmi played LT and RT in Austin, and comes with more than enough athleticism to be a potential option on the left side in the NFL. Cosmi tested as the second-most athletic RAS tackle to enter the NFL since 1987. Cosmi's 40 (4.87), broad jump (9’9), short shuttle (4.39) and bench (36) all ranked top-15 all-time for tackles. Cosmi moves like a tight end and has plenty of upper-body pop, with a veteran's understanding of his assignments.[/B] But hip stiffness causes Cosmi to play too high, which can sap him of power and teeter his balance. And with 33-inch arms (same as Rashawn Slater), Cosmi doesn’t have the reach his height suggests. Opponents erase Cosmi’s athletic and strength advantages when they win the leverage battle and get him on his heals, which K'Lavon Chaisson did in the 2019 opener. We see Cosmi similarly to Taylor Decker, a former first-rounder who’s been an above-average player his entire four-year NFL career, if never dominant.


[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/football/nfl/player/63765/samuel-cosmi[/url]

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Almost every draft there’s the “could have taken” players I compare our guy to.

Payne vs derwin James
Scherff vs Leonard Williams

Davis-cosmi vs darrisaw-jok

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[quote=SunnySide;1282937]Almost every draft there’s the “could have taken” players I compare our guy to.

Payne vs derwin James
Scherff vs Leonard Williams

Davis-cosmi vs darrisaw-jok[/quote]

Based on how things folded out with the Payne and Scherff picks, I would make the same choices if I could go back.

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[quote=GridIron26;1282938]Based on how things folded out with the Payne and Scherff picks, I would make the same choices if I could go back.[/quote]

Yeah, can’t count the number of posts on various boards bemoaning the fact we never drafted linemen and then the number of posts complaining when we did....

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[quote=Monkeydad;1282935]Either LB [B]Jabrill Cox[/B] or TE [B]Brevin Jordan[/B] needs to be our next pick! I can't believe they're both still available.[/quote]

I'd love it if we could draft one (or both, if we got super lucky) of those players!

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[quote=Chico23231;1282931]Looking to grab Tight End and Running Back in the 4th and 5th

Long snapper in the 7th

Call [B]Tre Boston[/B] for free safety.[/quote]

Good idea! He could help us a lot. I believe that we're going to get a solid FS somehow, somewhere this season.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1282926]Come on man Holcomb is a solid player, Curl is exciting and Jeremy Reaves played pretty well.
All I'm saying is there's a world between those guys and having freakin Troy Apke as our starting FS and only one good starting LB.

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Agreed, and what we have to also account for is how much the improvements we've made not only improve their positions, but also the positions around them. 3 good WR = forcing defenses to decide who to double, leaving 1 or both the other guys more open (+Thomas). Improve OL = less pressure on passing game and defense (longer drives etc.). Better run D (LB and DB) = more opportunities to pressure pass offenses and get turnovers.

But it also improves the players. With better corners and LBs around him, the whole DL and Holcombe should improve. Better corners means the Ss should look better (especially if we pick up a FS starter this weekend). Dangerous WRs to complement him means McL should look even better, and it won't hurt Thomas either especially if we get a TE.

For me if we pick up FS, TE, LB and OL with the remaining picks I'd be happy. Even a QB.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1282941]Good idea! He could help us a lot. I believe that we're going to get a solid FS somehow, somewhere this season.[/quote]

I wouldn't oppose to the idea of signing Tre Boston after the draft. Although I wonder if WFT is content with Reaves as a starter? Granted, Reaves has a small sample (only a few games) but he was ranked as 5th best safety in the NFL for all games he played. It's weird how this worked out for Reaves - he was on practice squad for a while, got cut, resigned and then finally got a chance to play after Apke got benched and Everette got injured, and then all of sudden he played well.

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[quote=Defensewins;1282934]The more I read about T Cosmi the better I feel about the pick.
At first I was a little surprised and maybe disappointed.
However I read Cosmi is an excellent athlete with size. His PFF pass pro scores are good. Cosmi ran the fastest 40-yard dash for an offensive lineman at his pro day. He ran the 40 in 4.84 seconds.
Seems like a guy that with help from John Matsko, will develop over time.
Cosmi played HS ball in Texas and College ball in UT, so he has played against top level competition.[/quote]

I think we can likely pencil him in as a day 1 starter

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We will have one of the fastest offenses in football. That’s a scary sight for the division

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Based on who is available now in the 4th, the talent match to need is not good. Its basically a special teams play. We wont fill our FS, TE or QB needs based on what is out there, therefore, I'd go for the last player that could poentially start for us, Jabril Cox ILB. I dont know what it would take for us to move up 19 spots to take him, guessing our 5th rounder, but based on the dearth of talent and our LB needs, I would do it immediately. Anyone know the cost to move up?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1282931]Looking to grab Tight End and Running Back in the 4th and 5th



Long snapper in the 7th



Call Tre Boston for free safety.[/QUOTE]



Sounds about perfect to me.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1282930]LOL, I think you guys are having a great draft so far.[/QUOTE]



Gotta say the same about the Gints. Should be some good ole fashioned NFC East battles coming our way. Woot. Woot.

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Chris Simms interview with Dyami Brown.

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Nevermind on Jabril Cox, I looked it up, we dont have enough ammo. We'd have to wait until he dropped another 6 picks to be able to trade for him. I dont see that happening.

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[QUOTE=skinsnut;1282946]Based on who is available now in the 4th, the talent match to need is not good. Its basically a special teams play. We wont fill our FS, TE or QB needs based on what is out there, therefore, I'd go for the last player that could poentially start for us, Jabril Cox ILB. I dont know what it would take for us to move up 19 spots to take him, guessing our 5th rounder, but based on the dearth of talent and our LB needs, I would do it immediately. Anyone know the cost to move up?[/QUOTE]



I think are glaring needs are taken care of. Quarterback was always going to be next offseason/draft (unless we got lucky) pending on Fitz and or Heineken doing whatever they are going to do this year. TE is not glaring because LT will only continue to master his craft. Yes we need another but I would not call second TE a glaring need. Brevin Jordan would certainly fill that need though imo. Watched every game he played in college. He is really good. Not a great blocker. FS is probably an issue. Who knows maybe Collins will earn a paycheck finally? To move up 19 in the fourth- yeah our 5th rounder would get that done I believe.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1282935]Solid picks in positions of need.

I disagree with the analysts saying QB is an immediate need. It is not for this season. Long-term, yes, but we're good with the trio we have now, especially Fitz.

Offense starting to look scary too...so deep at WR and I don't know who to cut. I feel AGG needs a shot in a normal season, rookies were at a disadvantage last year with no preseason. Wright and Harmon deserve to stay. Sims, Jr. is gone, especially with that return specialist from Houston we signed.

Either LB Jabrill Cox or TE Brevin Jordan needs to be our next pick! I can't believe they're both still available.

Real bummer we could have had JOK as the Browns took him just after us, but Coach Rivera clearly has a plan to fill holes and is sticking to it. Refreshing to see.[/quote]

I’m hoping both, at least one (Jabril Cox, Brevin Jordan) is there at 124