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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1307603]You guys are making me depressed...[/quote]

Some people who claim the team has hit rock bottom because of the name change, should be forced to watch the Spurrier and Zorn seasons on repeat.

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[quote=MTK;1307692][IMG]https://i.redd.it/z3wmwvfnvka81.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

pretty much

At this point give me a cool logo and gear

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[quote=MTK;1307692][IMG]https://i.redd.it/z3wmwvfnvka81.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

:laughing2

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Actually the team has improved slightly.. I mean let’s face it Even RR is a lot better than some other clowns we have had and who are currently coaching .. we are a QB and a stud LB from actually being good enough to at least compete for a wildcard .. this off-season is critical to taking next step.. I really don’t give a rats ass about the new name .. as long as it’s Washington and the colors are B&G I’m good !!

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[quote=rocnrik;1307709]Actually the team has improved slightly.. I mean let’s face it Even RR is a lot better than some other clowns we have had and who are currently coaching .. we are a QB and a stud LB from actually being good enough to at least compete for a wildcard .. this off-season is critical to taking next step.. I really don’t give a rats ass about the new name .. as long as it’s Washington and the colors are B&G I’m good !![/quote]

You and me both.

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[quote=MTK;1307692][IMG]https://i.redd.it/z3wmwvfnvka81.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Doesn’t matter what the name is. Win games and people will support you.

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The biggest name reveal for me is the name of the QB next year ..
Without that I can pretty much tell you the team will be called “Hot Trash” or Dumpster Fire or some other creative name we come up with on the game day thread …😳😀

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We were the Redskins for so long that to me it doesn't matter what the new name will be.....I'm good with whatever name is chosen.

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[quote=MTK;1307692][IMG]https://i.redd.it/z3wmwvfnvka81.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

I don't know about that. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Washington has the lowest selling merchandise in the NFL which does make some with the franchise care. The Redskins were what? the 4th-6th most valuable team in the world? Probably not anymore and pretty sure that ranking has continued and will continue to decline. Someone in the in the franchise cares and are probably thinking of ways to stop this.

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[quote=nonniey;1307766]I don't know about that. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Washington has the lowest selling merchandise in the NFL which does make some with the franchise care. The Redskins were what? the 4th-6th most valuable team in the world? Probably not anymore and pretty sure that ranking has continued and will continue to decline. Someone in the in the franchise cares and are probably thinking of ways to stop this.[/quote]

Historically when a team gets a new logo (and a name in this case) the merch sales are tops in the league initially.

I suspect this will be the case here as well. Hell if they count just what I buy I will single handily push them up the rankings :)

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Merch sales are part of the revenue sharing pie. And the TV money is the biggest part of the pie by far. Either way, winning cures all.

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Personally haven't bought a jersey since I got ST Pro Bowl. Partly because I felt like a jinx (3 years in a row I bought named jerseys and each time the guy was gone the following season). :)

I may get a t-shirt if the new name isn't embarrassing, but I'm holding off on a new jersey until I see some product on the field that feels like its worth it (probably a Scary jersey assuming we don't bungle extending him).

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[quote=Summo;1307767]Historically when a team gets a new logo (and a name in this case) the merch sales are tops in the league initially.

I suspect this will be the case here as well. Hell if they count just what I buy I will single handily push them up the rankings :)[/quote]

That didn't happen with the WFT gear and my prediction is the new merchandise will remain dead last in sales. I'm not leaving but will only purchase Redskins gear and none of those proceeds go to the team or the NFL.

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[quote=Dlyne8r;1307726]Doesn’t matter what the name is. Win games and people will support you.[/quote]

During that 4 game win streak people in Howard County were wearing their B&G everywhere. Havent seen that many Skins fans in while.

Win.

Bottom line is win.

But this team will never win until it lucks itself into a Joe Burrow.

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Anybody notice the Lions home game week 18? They won 2 games all year, worse then us and their fans were there and into it. Cheering and rooting for their team.

How do the Lions have that?

Odd

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[quote=SunnySide;1307772]

Anybody notice the Lions home game week 18? They won 2 games all year, worse then us and their fans were there and into it. Cheering and rooting for their team.

How do the Lions have that?

Odd[/quote]

They have a really cool stadium next to casinos, bars, and restaurants.
Great place to get shitfaced and watch a game.

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In 2020 the WFT was 6th in revenue generation amongst all teams. Revenue includes sponsorships, partnerships, tix, concessions and merch amongst other categories. [url]https://www.statista.com/statistics/193553/revenue-of-national-football-league-teams-in-2010/[/url]

It should be noted the revenue generated by the team has declined significantly since then but still top 10. This despite the tix sales which we know definitively are atrocious.

The Bucs were one of the worst selling teams until two weeks before their Super Bowl. So winning will change things quickly.

I for one will buy merch for the first time in over a decade. Once the name change happened I donated all my redskins merch to a local church clothing pantry (except for my script R knit hat) so I am ready for a wardrobe update.

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[quote=nonniey;1307771]That didn't happen with the WFT gear and my prediction is the new merchandise will remain dead last in sales. I'm not leaving but will only purchase Redskins gear and none of those proceeds go to the team or the NFL.[/quote]

The WFT was a unique case though. Everyone knew it was a place holder and the merch came out in a trickle. Only diehards bought that stuff IMO

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[quote=jamf;1307774]They have a really cool stadium next to casinos, bars, and restaurants.
Great place to get shitfaced and watch a game.[/quote]

Thats so cool. I was amazed at the Lions crowd. They were beating their rivals but the crowd was having a blast.

Id love something like that. Rent a hotel room, gamble and eat good saturday night, wake up sunday a short walk to the stadium.

Lions fans love their loveable losers.

Skins and their fans .. were losers losers. We do nothing right. How do you fuck up the QB situation as much as we have?

Trade 3 1st round picks for a QB who wins the OROY .. only to have that fall apart.

Have a good QB in Cousins ... only to have Bruce Allen's drunk ass fuck up any notion of normal contract negotiations.

Have an owner who forces the team to draft a QB from his son's high school even though no one in the scouting dept had him as a 1st rounder ..

Then pay a 40 year old journeyman 10M to break a god damn hip 1 quarter into week 1

We literally have the worst QB depth chart in the league. Not even close.

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Lions have new stadium complex and no. 2 overall pick

Skins have no stadium deal in sight, an entrenched asshole owner and the no. 11 pick

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Weren't we winning in Smith's first year here before he broke his leg? First place in the division and the stadium was half full w/ the other teams fans. So winning does not cure all, especially when you are dealing w/ what has gone on here since Snyder ownership.

The only thing that is going to really bring the fans back is marketable core players which would include a QB. Superstar type of players. We really don't have any. A re-brand isn't going to bring anyone back, if anything this re-brand is turning off what core fans you have left.

Fans are not coming back cause you do a re-brand.

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[quote=SunnySide;1307780]Thats so cool. I was amazed at the Lions crowd. They were beating their rivals but the crowd was having a blast.

Id love something like that. Rent a hotel room, gamble and eat good saturday night, wake up sunday a short walk to the stadium.

Lions fans love their loveable losers.

Skins and their fans .. were losers losers. We do nothing right. [B]How do you fuck up the QB situation as much as we have?
[/B]
Trade 3 1st round picks for a QB who wins the OROY .. only to have that fall apart.

Have a good QB in Cousins ... only to have Bruce Allen's drunk ass fuck up any notion of normal contract negotiations.

Have an owner who forces the team to draft a QB from his son's high school even though no one in the scouting dept had him as a 1st rounder ..

Then pay a 40 year old journeyman 10M to break a god damn hip 1 quarter into week 1

We literally have the worst QB depth chart in the league. Not even close.

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Lions have new stadium complex and no. 2 overall pick

Skins have no stadium deal in sight, an entrenched asshole owner and the no. 11 pick[/quote]

OR are we just an EOE giving everyone a shot to play QB? I'd prefer to think of Football Team as one giant Make A Wish foundation for athletes that want to play QB.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1307782]Weren't we winning in Smith's first year here before he broke his leg? First place in the division and the stadium was half full w/ the other teams fans. So winning does not cure all, especially when you are dealing w/ what has gone on here since Snyder ownership.

The only thing that is going to really bring the fans back is marketable core players which would include a QB. Superstar type of players. We really don't have any. A re-brand isn't going to bring anyone back, if anything this re-brand is turning off what core fans you have left.

Fans are not coming back cause you do a re-brand.[/quote]

Sustained winning over the course of 2-3 seasons is what we're talking about. Not a hot streak.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1307782]Weren't we winning in Smith's first year here before he broke his leg? First place in the division and the stadium was half full w/ the other teams fans. So winning does not cure all, especially when you are dealing w/ what has gone on here since Snyder ownership.

The only thing that is going to really bring the fans back is marketable core players which would include a QB. Superstar type of players. We really don't have any. A re-brand isn't going to bring anyone back, if anything this re-brand is turning off what core fans you have left.

Fans are not coming back cause you do a re-brand.[/quote]

Youre right, even during the 4 game win streak our fans didnt show up to the stadium but im telling you, its anecdotal but for about 2 weekends during that 4 game win streak I saw more skins gear in Columbia MD than I have in a long time. We took over the Target and the Harris Teeter.

Just win.

Fans will start to wear their colors in public again.

Strangers will chest bump strangers.

Kids will sit on the couch and actually watch the games with their depressed beer drinking dads.

I even entertained the idea of going to a game. That hasnt happened in a long long time.

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Bottom line, if the team doesn't care about fans leaving over the name after 40 years of Fandom, then why should I care about the team. One thing Gibbs and the Skins before DS, their actions reflected true care for the Skins faithful.

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If we had Justin Herbert half of our problems would be solved. The name change wouldn't be as tough to swallow. Snyder being the asshole that he has been would or could be pushed to the side.

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[B][/B][quote=SunnySide;1307772]

But this team will never win until it lucks itself into a Joe Burrow.

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We won’t be winners until ownership changes. We have better odds on finding another Joe Burrow (or Tom Brady).

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[quote=skinsfan69;1307794]If we had Justin Herbert half of our problems would be solved. The name change wouldn't be as tough to swallow. Snyder being the asshole that he has been would or could be pushed to the side.[/quote]

exactly.. we never have a QB that we can rely on for a full season.. Even with Kirk we knew he would fuck up half the games

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People are actually mad on twitter that Ron lied about the team name... LOL

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1307799]People are actually mad on twitter that Ron lied about the team name... LOL[/quote]

Instagram is the only good social media. Memes and hot chicks lol.

I don't even have that either, but I did for a year or so, and it was pretty good.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1307800]Instagram is the only good social media. Memes and hot chicks lol.

I don't even have that either, but I did for a year or so, and it was pretty good.[/quote]

The females n there are amazing man

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I was looking at the uniform pics and it struck me. I think the "Commanders" circle logo that has been throw out there is not a red herring. Look at the picture of the jersey with the Three Stars on in inner collar where the "Team Effort Tradition" used to be. There is a sewn circle below that. I think thats where the circle icon/alternate logo will go.
[URL="https://twitter.com/Scott7news/status/1478411953559195648/photo/1"]https://twitter.com/Scott7news/status/1478411953559195648/photo/1[/URL]

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As negative as I am about the upcoming rebrand, I will take a breather and hope Jonathan Allen is being honest in his end of season comment on it.

I really do want them to get it right, I just don't trust the FO from RR up to DS[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220111/0eecca25c98bcf72c45d01ec1cee1cf5.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Stacks42;1307802]I was looking at the uniform pics and it struck me. I think the "Commanders" circle logo that has been throw out there is not a red herring. Look at the picture of the jersey with the Three Stars on in inner collar where the "Team Effort Tradition" used to be. There is a sewn circle below that. I think thats where the circle icon/alternate logo will go.
[URL="https://twitter.com/Scott7news/status/1478411953559195648/photo/1"]https://twitter.com/Scott7news/status/1478411953559195648/photo/1[/URL][/quote]

That would make sense

If Jon Allen loves the new name and brand I'm sure we all will too.. Dude is the leader of the team

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1307805]
I really do want them to get it right, I just don't trust the FO from RR up to DS

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I think we all feel this way.

Best case scenario is they get a cool jersey and a franchise QB in the draft.

Most likely scenario is they sell the naming rights( Washington Airmen sponsored by Delta) and they evaluate veteran QBs all offseason which means they wait to see if anyone is cut before training camp or they bring in Cam or Andy Dalton.

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i am hoping its Washington Warthogs

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[quote=Stacks42;1307802]I was looking at the uniform pics and it struck me. I think the "Commanders" circle logo that has been throw out there is not a red herring. Look at the picture of the jersey with the[B] Three Stars [/B]on in inner collar where the "Team Effort Tradition" used to be. There is a sewn circle below that. I think thats where the circle icon/alternate logo will go.
[URL="https://twitter.com/Scott7news/status/1478411953559195648/photo/1"]https://twitter.com/Scott7news/status/1478411953559195648/photo/1[/URL][/quote]

Dallas fans will have a field day with WFT coopting the star. Why WFT would even go near a star as part of their logo is beyond me.

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[quote=irish;1307859]Dallas fans will have a field day with WFT coopting the star. Why WFT would even go near a star as part of their logo is beyond me.[/quote]

You kind of have too with a Military themed name

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[quote=mredskins;1307854]i am hoping its Washington Warthogs[/quote]

The Washington Warthogs were a professional indoor soccer team back in the 90s.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1307860]You kind of have too with a Military themed name[/quote]

I believe it represents the 3 Stars on the DC flag. Which I think is kind of cool.

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[quote=mredskins;1307862]I believe it represents the 3 Stars on the DC flag. Which I think is kind of cool.[/quote]

Yes it does, and the three stars and two bars on the D.C. Flag come directly from the George Washington family crest/coat of arms. So Commanders would be a fitting name.