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jamf 02-23-2022 11:29 PM

Re: 2022 off season thread part 1
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1311082]DON'T GET RID OF GOOD PLAYERS PERIOD[/quote]

It’s shocking how few first and second round picks were signed to a second contract.

They don’t retain talent.

FrenchSkin 02-24-2022 03:26 AM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1311065][url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/commanders-ron-rivera-has-tremendous-interest-in-keeping-terry-mclaurin-daron-payne-in-d-c/[/url]



Commanders' Ron Rivera has 'tremendous interest' in keeping Terry McLaurin, Daron Payne in D.C.



I think extending both these guys is the right move[/QUOTE]Yeah I think locking em up this year is important. Otherwise you take the risk, if next year isn't successful, of them desperately wanting out, having no shot at resigning them, and once this roster starts losing guys like McLaurin we are back to below square zero...
This is not only about potentially saving a bit of cap space by signing them a year early, it's about not letting your roster dismantle...

Envoyé de mon SHV48 en utilisant Tapatalk

GridIron26 02-24-2022 07:48 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311095]ESPN’s
@john_keim
says that Washington and star free agent RG Brandon Scherff's "relationship appears to have run its course”[/quote]

Not surprised.

sdskinsfan2001 02-24-2022 08:49 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1311095]ESPN’s
@john_keim
says that Washington and star free agent RG Brandon Scherff's "relationship appears to have run its course”[/QUOTE]

Good, we got 7 years out of him. Let someone else pay him the insane money he will get.

We can sign 3 guards with the same money if we wanted.

mredskins 02-24-2022 08:52 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1311108]Good, we got 7 years out of him. Let someone else pay him the insane money he will get.

We can sign 3 guards with the same money if we wanted.[/quote]

Agree.

FrenchSkin 02-24-2022 08:53 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1311108]Good, we got 7 years out of him. Let someone else pay him the insane money he will get.

We can sign 3 guards with the same money if we wanted.[/quote]

And we got some really solid play out of Wes Schweitzer.
Scherff is a great player. But injured a lot, I'd rather have us use the cap elsewhere.

Chico23231 02-24-2022 09:06 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1311108]Good, we got 7 years out of him. Let someone else pay him the insane money he will get.

We can sign 3 guards with the same money if we wanted.[/quote]

This. Ron & Co have done a really solid job with finding and signing good Olinemen. Wes, Lucas, Leno, Flowers, and Cosmi all from this group. I’d like us to this strategy continue to get contributors.

I’d say with Schreff moving on…I’d probably extend Flowers and look to draft a Guard this year. When you look though at Guard free agents, man there are some guys who come in a play.

But best of luck to Schreff, a really good player for us throughout. I can’t stomach 18 per year for a guy who hasn’t played a full season in forever

KI Skins Fan 02-24-2022 10:01 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1311113]This. Ron & Co have done a really solid job with finding and signing good Olinemen. Wes, Lucas, Leno, Flowers, and Cosmi all from this group. I’d like us to this strategy continue to get contributors.

[B]I’d say with Schreff moving on…I’d probably extend Flowers and look to draft a Guard this year. When you look though at Guard free agents, man there are some guys who come in a play. [/B]

But best of luck to Schreff, a really good player for us throughout. I can’t stomach 18 per year for a guy who hasn’t played a full season in forever[/quote]

I think you're right about Scherff. It's just too much money for a guard. There are good guards available in FA - even players who played mostly at RG. Also, I really like a number of guard prospects in this draft class. We could probably land a good one in Round 3. Also, I think we need to try to extend both Flowers and Schweitzer (the Swiss Army Knife), if possible. They are solid players. Then we'd have the IOL starters and depth we need.

mooby 02-24-2022 03:46 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1311113]This. Ron & Co have done a really solid job with finding and signing good Olinemen. Wes, Lucas, Leno, Flowers, and Cosmi all from this group. I’d like us to this strategy continue to get contributors.

I’d say with Schreff moving on…I’d probably extend Flowers and look to draft a Guard this year. When you look though at Guard free agents, man there are some guys who come in a play.

But best of luck to Schreff, a really good player for us throughout. [B]I can’t stomach 18 per year for a guy who hasn’t played a full season in forever[/B][/quote]

+1 Go chase the money or the ring, I ain't mad at ya. You ain't gonna get either here.

sdskinsfan2001 03-02-2022 03:47 PM

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CBS used a mock draft formula, but used free agents instead of pics.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2022-nfl-free-agency-mock-draft-jameis-winston-to-steelers-chris-godwin-to-lions-and-30-other-moves/[/url]

11. Commanders: S Tyrann Mathieu

Ron Rivera badly needs an experienced QB upgrade, but this year's veteran class is weak. Mathieu, meanwhile, would bring all kinds of feisty versatility to a porous secondary, which may see Landon Collins exit as a cap casualty.

Chief X_Phackter 03-02-2022 05:13 PM

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[url]https://washingtonfootballwire.usatoday.com/2022/03/02/commanders-plan-to-exercise-de-montez-sweats-5th-year-option/[/url]

No brainer.

jamf 03-02-2022 05:19 PM

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I would like to congratulate Vincent Rivera and Luke Del Rio on their promotions, I'm sure it's well-deserved.

[URL="https://washingtonfootballwire.usatoday.com/2022/03/02/washington-commanders-announces-multiple-coaching-moves-ron-rivera-jack-del-rio/"]bitches[/URL]

[IMG]https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/4c/4c58180d808356e3860cac3cc8c3d44c.gif[/IMG]


[quote]The younger Del Rio joined Washington’s staff as an offensive quality control coach in 2020 under Rivera. A former college quarterback at Florida, Del Rio spent time at three different colleges before ending his collegiate career with the Gators. When asked about attending 4 Universities, the younger Pussy Ass Bitch Del Rio replied "My daddy says you can't ask me that question or he will sue". The Pussy Ass Bitch Del Rio then proceeded to engage in a TikTok dance battle against Legendary Pussy Ass Bitch Jackson Mahommes. [/quote]

Chico23231 03-02-2022 10:14 PM

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[quote=jamf;1311552]I would like to congratulate Vincent Rivera and Luke Del Rio on their promotions, I'm sure it's well-deserved.

[URL="https://washingtonfootballwire.usatoday.com/2022/03/02/washington-commanders-announces-multiple-coaching-moves-ron-rivera-jack-del-rio/"]bitches[/URL]

[IMG]https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/4c/4c58180d808356e3860cac3cc8c3d44c.gif[/IMG][/quote]

[YT]jc4k7U9VThE[/YT]

skinsfaninok 03-03-2022 12:19 PM

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The NFL and NFLPA have agreed to suspend all aspects of the joint COVID-19 Protocols, effective immediately, per sources.

After nearly two years of restrictions — and not a single game lost to the pandemic — it’s back to normal. Finally.

RAP SHEET

mredskins 03-03-2022 12:38 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311624]The NFL and NFLPA have agreed to suspend all aspects of the joint COVID-19 Protocols, effective immediately, per sources.

After nearly two years of restrictions — and not a single game lost to the pandemic — it’s back to normal. Finally.

RAP SHEET[/quote]

Until the next variant or a dip in BREAKING NEWS stories.

SunnySide 03-03-2022 01:09 PM

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March 8 at 4 pm - franchise tag deadline

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-free-agency-matchmaker-projecting-contracts-landing-spots-for-25-big-name-2022-free-agents/[/url]

^^ list of some potential tag candidates

Saints S Marcus Williams;
Pats CB JC Jackson (terp);
Chiefs S Mathieu;
Lions S Tracy Walker;
Bengals S Jessie Bates

Interested to see if any of these guys hit the market

BaltimoreSkins 03-03-2022 01:11 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1311566][YT]jc4k7U9VThE[/YT][/quote]

Gawd and such a shitty dance to boot

SunnySide 03-03-2022 01:42 PM

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JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
Martin Mayhew says Commanders plan to meet with Terry McLaurin’s agent this week. He’s going into the final year of his rookie contract
1:44 PM · Mar 2, 2022 from Indianapolis, IN·Twitter for iPhone

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
·
23h
Mayhew says Commanders met with Cam Sims agent yesterday and have meetings set with reps for JD McKissic and Bobby McCain. Mayhew says Washington wants all 3 back if deals can be agreed.

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Id like all 3 back as well. McCain had up and down play, reminds me of Swearinger in that he can lay the lumber, seems to be around the ball .. just doesnt put it all together. A C+ player imo.

MTK 03-03-2022 01:46 PM

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1311636]Gawd and such a shitty dance to boot[/quote]

100% cringe

sdskinsfan2001 03-03-2022 02:02 PM

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[quote=SunnySide;1311641]JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
Martin Mayhew says Commanders plan to meet with Terry McLaurin’s agent this week. He’s going into the final year of his rookie contract
1:44 PM · Mar 2, 2022 from Indianapolis, IN·Twitter for iPhone

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
·
23h
Mayhew says Commanders met with Cam Sims agent yesterday and have meetings set with reps for JD McKissic and Bobby McCain. Mayhew says Washington wants all 3 back if deals can be agreed.

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Id like all 3 back as well. McCain had up and down play, reminds me of Swearinger in that he can lay the lumber, seems to be around the ball .. just doesnt put it all together. A C+ player imo.[/quote]

Pay Terry his money. If he leaves I will genuinely be sad.

BaltimoreSkins 03-03-2022 02:09 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1311644]Pay Terry his money. If he leaves I will genuinely be sad.[/quote]

[IMG]https://imgflip.com/i/67bdwd[/IMG]

Chico23231 03-03-2022 02:15 PM

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1311636]Gawd and such a shitty dance to boot[/quote]

Pink is def his color

Chief X_Phackter 03-03-2022 02:55 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1311644]Pay Terry his money. If he leaves I will genuinely be sad.[/quote]

If I were him, I wouldn't enter any kind of contract discussions until I find out who is throwing me passes next year - and beyond.

sdskinsfan2001 03-03-2022 02:58 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1311661]If I were him, I wouldn't enter any kind of contract discussions until I find out who is throwing me passes next year - and beyond.[/quote]

We can/should throw him around 20 million per year. Just don't shortchange him.

Him and Allen are gonna be the 2 leaders to bring us back to success.

If no contract - Definitely franchise tagging him for 1 year.

MTK 03-03-2022 03:03 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1311661]If I were him, I wouldn't enter any kind of contract discussions until I find out who is throwing me passes next year - and beyond.[/quote]

Yeah I hear you, but let's be real, when it's your time to get paid, you listen. He's looking at life changing generational wealth. Big picture who cares about who your QB is when you're talking about a deal probably worth close to $20M a year, and probably over $50M guaranteed.

SunnySide 03-03-2022 03:05 PM

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NFL just inked over 100 Billion in 10 yeas of TV deals, theyve been crushing TV rating this past year, 2023 cap could jump to 225M from the current 208M.

If Im Terry .. I wait a year unless Skins offer stoopid money. Wr tag will be 22M range by then.

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Terry has made pennies so far compared to his teammates.

Hes made about as much as Troy Apke in his career so far. In these situations, I hope the Skins approached his camp last offseason to show him the money.

When a player is being vastly underpaid vs production and you wait until the last moment ... that wouldnt sit well with me.

MTK 03-03-2022 03:08 PM

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The money is always going to be higher next year... do you really risk an injury over maybe $2M more per season?

Chief X_Phackter 03-03-2022 03:35 PM

Re: 2022 off season thread part 1
 
[quote=MTK;1311664]Yeah I hear you, but let's be real, when it's your time to get paid, you listen. He's looking at life changing generational wealth. Big picture who cares about who your QB is when you're talking about a deal probably worth close to $20M a year, and probably over $50M guaranteed.[/quote]

I get that, he'll listen and he should. Maybe they'll blow him away - who knows.

But this will be his first real NFL pay day. He will likely have at least one more - but not if he continues to have a QB who constantly puts his health in jeopardy.

There's no reason to be in a hurry to get it done if your Terry. At a minimum, he should wait to see who the QB is going to be.

mredskins 03-03-2022 10:23 PM

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RG3 book scraped, lol, guy is a joker

MTK 03-04-2022 09:30 AM

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[quote=mredskins;1311689]RG3 book scraped, lol, guy is a joker[/quote]

Snyder either paid him off or threatened to sue him into the stone age, or someone told him if you want to work in the NFL on the media side, releasing this book right now isn't a good idea for your career.

Either way, it was probably a bad idea on his part to go around telling everyone this was in the works. He set himself up to look bad.

sdskinsfan2001 03-04-2022 09:39 AM

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[quote=mredskins;1311689]RG3 book scraped, lol, guy is a joker[/quote]

Damnit, I was really looking forward to that whine/blame fest.

Ruhskins 03-04-2022 12:04 PM

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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33420970/sources-dallas-cowboys-wr-amari-cooper-likely-released[/url]

I don't know how much Cooper would cost, and I want them to focus on getting Terry's deal done. But adding Cooper to this WR group would entice any QB IMO. Hell, even a rookie QB would benefit from having Terry, Cooper, Logan, and (a hopefully healthy) Samuel.

Chico23231 03-04-2022 12:07 PM

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I would pass on Cooper.

skinsfaninok 03-04-2022 12:09 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1311739][url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33420970/sources-dallas-cowboys-wr-amari-cooper-likely-released[/url]

I don't know how much Cooper would cost, and I want them to focus on getting Terry's deal done. But adding Cooper to this WR group would entice any QB IMO. Hell, even a rookie QB would benefit from having Terry, Cooper, Logan, and (a hopefully healthy) Samuel.[/quote]

I would take a look for sure

Chief X_Phackter 03-04-2022 12:39 PM

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No thanks. He's going to want 20+ mil. I hope they don't pursue any of the top WRs in free agency either. I would rather them grab a WR in the draft. It's not a critical need anyway - especially if Samuels comes back 100%, and they work something out with C Sims.

MTK 03-04-2022 01:38 PM

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We'd be crazy to not look into Cooper if the money is right.

sdskinsfan2001 03-04-2022 01:41 PM

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[quote=MTK;1311748]We'd be crazy to not look into Cooper if the money is right.[/quote]

Pay Terry 1st, worry about Cooper or any other FA later.

MTK 03-04-2022 01:48 PM

Re: 2022 off season thread part 1
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1311749]Pay Terry 1st, worry about Cooper or any other FA later.[/quote]

Terry is going to get paid, but I'm not passing on Cooper simply because Terry is due.

sdskinsfan2001 03-04-2022 01:56 PM

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[quote=MTK;1311750]Terry is going to get paid, but I'm not passing on Cooper simply because Terry is due.[/quote]

Whatever you sign Cooper for, you will have to pay McLaurin more than that. Thats a lot of money to throw at WR.

I'm not against signing Cooper, but he's still gonna want tons of money. Not sure if its really possible.

Samuel needs to play this year.

jamf 03-04-2022 02:02 PM

Re: 2022 off season thread part 1
 
I have no trust in Samuels playing a full season.
Get Cooper if you can.

Instead of paying Trubisky or one of those one and done contract QBs, draft a QB and give him McLaurin, Cooper, and Samuels.


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