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Chief X_Phackter 03-31-2022 03:37 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2022: Offseason edition
 
Rams signing Wagner

[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/bobby-wagner-rams-sign-lb-five-year-50m-deal-seahawks[/url]

sdskinsfan2001 03-31-2022 04:16 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1314433]Rams signing Wagner

[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/bobby-wagner-rams-sign-lb-five-year-50m-deal-seahawks[/url][/quote]

Damn, I fell for the NFL.com link again. Those assholes know that happens and choose not to fix it.

skinsfan69 03-31-2022 05:09 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1314393]My mom used to work out with Sharpers mom at same gym. You talk about someone having everyone fooled.[/quote]

Sharper is doing some hard time.

Chico23231 03-31-2022 05:24 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1314437]Sharper is doing some hard time.[/quote]

I had to go back and read…Sharper was a modern day Bill Cosby. Trrrible shit

FrenchSkin 03-31-2022 07:08 PM

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1314433]Rams signing Wagner



[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/bobby-wagner-rams-sign-lb-five-year-50m-deal-seahawks[/url][/QUOTE]5 years 50M (up to 65M) per Adam Scheftter

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1509610621968470028[/url]

So that's 10 to 13 M/y. Significantly less than we expected. Maybe more than we can afford. But that confirms what I thought all along: if they want to, they can sign a quality MLB under 10M/y.

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mooby 03-31-2022 08:39 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1314418]Well the daddy issue girl thing I don’t have problem with…I think the massage sexual assault thing is more serious.[/quote]

+1

I hate how much I love watching football sometimes - like even now I know every Sunday from Sept-Feb my schedule is busy. Because sometimes it pains me to enjoy watching a league where you can do some heinous shit and not only will you not get punished for it - you will be rewarded handsomely if you are talented enough.

Like Cleveland anticipates his punishment this year - so they structure his contract in such a manner that he's only paid 1 mil for the season so he won't lose any cash when he gets suspended. Like they are actively gameplanning about how to reward him around the punishment for 22 sexual assault/harassment allegations. Way to set the fucking standard Cleveland.

So glad he didn't come here - we got enough problems with perverts in leadership positions to deal with this shit.

mooby 03-31-2022 08:41 PM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1314443]5 years 50M (up to 65M) per Adam Scheftter

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1509610621968470028[/url]

So that's 10 to 13 M/y. Significantly less than we expected. Maybe more than we can afford. But that confirms what I thought all along: if they want to, they can sign a quality MLB under 10M/y.

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We just assume Wagner would look at us with an open mind.

When in reality we are competing with the reigning Super Bowl champs for his services.

Reigning SB champs? Or top 5 fucked up organization in the NFL, even with Ron's steady hand trying to make a difference. Easy choice for Wagner. Easy choice for Russell Wilson and every other legit All-Pro we've tried to woo over the years.

FrenchSkin 03-31-2022 08:46 PM

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[quote=mooby;1314447]We just assume Wagner would look at us with an open mind.

When in reality we are competing with the reigning Super Bowl champs for his services.

Reigning SB champs? Or top 5 fucked up organization in the NFL, even with Ron's steady hand trying to make a difference. Easy choice for Wagner. Easy choice for Russell Wilson and every other legit All-Pro we've tried to woo over the years.[/quote]

Yeah yeah I'm not saying we should've signed Wagner. I'm saying if we want to sign one of [URL="https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/inside-linebacker/all/"]these guys[/URL], we can.

Chico23231 04-02-2022 02:55 PM

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Patriots acquired WR DeVante Parker and a 2022 fifth-round pick from the Dolphins for a 2023 third-round pick.

skinsfaninok 04-04-2022 12:07 PM

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[url]https://twitter.com/jpafootball/status/1511003028240883713?s=21&t=ZyWWO8t-hDOMw0ahwTgw2Q[/url]


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mooby 04-04-2022 01:51 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1314557][url]https://twitter.com/jpafootball/status/1511003028240883713?s=21&t=ZyWWO8t-hDOMw0ahwTgw2Q[/url]


SFOK, surely you could do a little better than just copy/pasting a link. Maybe a description so we know why it's in our best interest to click the link? Step your game up.

Ruhskins 04-04-2022 01:58 PM

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[quote=mooby;1314560]
SFOK, surely you could do a little better than just copy/pasting a link. Maybe a description so we know why it's in our best interest to click the link? Step your game up.[/quote]

Or just copy pasting the actual tweet:

@BenStandig
Ron Rivera tells @TheAthletic no teams have reached out to the Commanders about a possible trade for Terry McLaurin — “and we wouldn’t entertain it.”

But teams are monitoring the situation amid a wild WR spending spree that isn't over.

GridIron26 04-04-2022 03:29 PM

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Because there is nothing else to discuss about, let's play a game - what kind of offer would it take for you to accept if a team approaches us about trading for McLaurin?

Chief X_Phackter 04-04-2022 03:37 PM

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I would do it for the same package KC got for Tyreek: 2022 first-round pick, 2022 second-round pick, 2022 fourth-round pick, 2023 fourth-round pick, and 2023 sixth-round pick.

No player is untradeable. There is a price for everyone.

They "wouldn't entertain it" until someone gives them an offer they can't refuse.

sdskinsfan2001 04-04-2022 04:09 PM

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[quote=GridIron26;1314567]Because there is nothing else to discuss about, let's play a game - what kind of offer would it take for you to accept if a team approaches us about trading for McLaurin?[/quote]

For Mike Ditka to obtain power again and give us a call.

Ruhskins 04-04-2022 04:11 PM

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Draft Pick Trades:

@AdamSchefter
TRADE: Eagles sending picks No. 16, No. 19 and No. 194 in the sixth round to the Saints in exchange for pick No. 18, No. 101 in the third round, No. 237 in the 7th round AND a 2023 first-round pick and 2024 second-round pick, per sources.

Saints now at 16, 19; Eagles at 15, 18.

EdmundDorf 04-04-2022 04:14 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1314571]Draft Pick Trades:

@AdamSchefter
TRADE: Eagles sending picks No. 16, No. 19 and No. 194 in the sixth round to the Saints in exchange for pick No. 18, No. 101 in the third round, No. 237 in the 7th round AND a 2023 first-round pick and 2024 second-round pick, per sources.

Saints now at 16, 19; Eagles at 15, 18.[/quote]

At first sight it looks a little bit of an odd trade, Eagles giving up a 1st for a future 1st, a 3rd and a future second.

sdskinsfan2001 04-04-2022 04:16 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1314571]Draft Pick Trades:

@AdamSchefter
TRADE: Eagles sending picks No. 16, No. 19 and No. 194 in the sixth round to the Saints in exchange for pick No. 18, No. 101 in the third round, No. 237 in the 7th round AND a 2023 first-round pick and 2024 second-round pick, per sources.

Saints now at 16, 19; Eagles at 15, 18.[/quote]

Eagles stacking up mad draft picks. Wasn't like they dominated last year tho, kind of weird to not want to add 3 1st rounders.

Ruhskins 04-04-2022 04:28 PM

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I think the Eagles are preparing for a scenario where Hurts doesn't work out and can trade up for a QB next year.

I think that is the ideal situation for us as well, except that we need a trade partner. I'm hoping Pittsburgh becomes that partner.

Ruhskins 04-04-2022 05:32 PM

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I think it is interesting to have the Iggles owner talk about regretting not drafting Wilson, given that they were apparently in the mix to get Wilson via a trade. This doesn't sound like a vote of confidence for Hurts.

[url]https://www.delawareonline.com/story/sports/nfl/eagles/2022/04/04/jeffrey-lurie-howie-roseman-jalen-hurts-eagles-nfl-draft-picks/7228705001/[/url]

I'm mentioning this given my previous comment that they're making plans if Hurts doesn't work out.

Chief X_Phackter 04-04-2022 06:01 PM

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1314575]I think it is interesting to have the Iggles owner talk about regretting not drafting Wilson, given that they were apparently in the mix to get Wilson via a trade. This doesn't sound like a vote of confidence for Hurts.

[url]https://www.delawareonline.com/story/sports/nfl/eagles/2022/04/04/jeffrey-lurie-howie-roseman-jalen-hurts-eagles-nfl-draft-picks/7228705001/[/url]

I'm mentioning this given my previous comment that they're making plans if Hurts doesn't work out.[/QUOTE]

Hurts is no better than Heinicke in my opinion. He runs more - that's about it.

Worse completion %, and about the same QB Rating.

Less INTs, but that's more than likely due to the fact that he runs way more often than Heinicke - an average of almost 11 rushes per game for Hurts compared to just over 4 for Heinicke.

Less passing TDs in more games for Hurts.

Maybe he'll start balling for them this year, but my guess is they are setting themselves up for drafting a QB next year.

AnonEmouse 04-04-2022 06:48 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1314573]Eagles stacking up mad draft picks. Wasn't like they dominated last year tho, kind of weird to not want to add 3 1st rounders.[/quote]

They avoid paying 3 1st round contracts and give themselves extra options next draft, as Ruhskins suggests; get a QB if they need one in a draft with better options than this one.

BaltimoreSkins 04-05-2022 02:34 PM

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Interesting take
[url]https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/by-the-numbers/2022/4/5/23010181/why-lambeau-is-bad-for-the-packers-like-coors-ahmad-bradshaw-brandon-jacobs-kaepernick[/url]

We know run first offenses are way less efficient than pass offenses but when bad weather adds to randomness of the game there is a bias that favors inefficiency. Building defense is far to random from year to year than building offenses which is why defensive production can vary so much year to year despite same team and players. (One of my pet peeves about all the investment we have had first round on defense with little return in games won).

The article made me think twice about my bias against domed stadiums and the potential new stadium deal for Commanders, if it ever happens.

skinsfaninok 04-06-2022 09:35 AM

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Diggs gets a 4/104M deal to stay In Buffalo for a while.

Terry will probably see similar

SunnySide 04-06-2022 10:26 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1314616]Diggs gets a 4/104M deal to stay In Buffalo for a while.

Terry will probably see similar[/quote]

4 yrs/104M/70M guar ... sounds about right for Terry.

Diggs has been more productive but he hasnt had the Qbs and offense Terry has.

This is the last year of affordable Terry.

sdskinsfan2001 04-06-2022 11:09 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1314616]Diggs gets a 4/104M deal to stay In Buffalo for a while.

Terry will probably see similar[/quote]

I'd say Diggs is a pretty fair comparison to Terry. Better numbers with better cast.

But I'd say they are about equal.

Pay Terry his money.

EdmundDorf 04-06-2022 03:45 PM

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John Keim Retweeted
Spotrac
@spotrac
·
7h
Updated WR Market Valuations

Cooper Kupp: 4 yrs, $113M
Terry McLaurin: 4 yrs, $97.7M
D.K. Metcalf: 4 yrs, $97.1M
A.J. Brown: 4 yrs, $91M
Deebo Samuel 4 yrs, $90M
Diontae Johnson: 4 yrs, $88M

sdskinsfan2001 04-06-2022 03:56 PM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1314647]John Keim Retweeted
Spotrac
@spotrac
·
7h
Updated WR Market Valuations

Cooper Kupp: 4 yrs, $113M
Terry McLaurin: 4 yrs, $97.7M
D.K. Metcalf: 4 yrs, $97.1M
A.J. Brown: 4 yrs, $91M
Deebo Samuel 4 yrs, $90M
Diontae Johnson: 4 yrs, $88M[/quote]

Pay Terry his money. This will be my common theme until he is re-signed. Especially that money. Less than 25M is going to be a win at this point. It ain't gonna get any cheaper.

Chief X_Phackter 04-06-2022 04:32 PM

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People need to take a deep breath on Terry McLaurin. The timetable for such deals is almost always spring/summer. Said this all along. Had to get QB first. Never expected anything to get done before late spring at the earliest. He's wanted here. Jon Allen extension? July 27.

- John Keim

GridIron26 04-06-2022 08:26 PM

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Lol gotta love some fans.. I gotta say it feels good to have an awesome offense playmaker on the team, the last time was Moss IMO.

MTK 04-06-2022 10:05 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1314649]People need to take a deep breath on Terry McLaurin. The timetable for such deals is almost always spring/summer. Said this all along. Had to get QB first. Never expected anything to get done before late spring at the earliest. He's wanted here. Jon Allen extension? July 27.

- John Keim[/quote]

Seriously people need to chill the F out

skinsfaninok 04-06-2022 10:24 PM

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They will not trade him lol. Washington Twitter is so bad sometimes. The fans are ridiculous


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skinsfaninok 04-07-2022 10:12 AM

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Diggs is basically the same tier as Terry. That contract is what Terry should expect

Chico23231 04-07-2022 06:13 PM

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[url]https://denver.cbslocal.com/2022/04/07/mark-schlereth-heart-surgery-former-broncos-lineman/[/url]

Former Broncos Lineman Mark Schlereth Undergoes Heart Surgery

Man good luck to Schlereth…always a baller and enjoy his perspective on the game

Chico23231 04-12-2022 09:41 AM

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Little personal news, a good dude I know from my area who has been on a NFL championship roster but as injured reserve, non-active spot is getting a second chance, probably final shot signed with the Canadian football league Calgary Stampeders playing WR. Dude was udfa and had 2 Achilles injuries which held him back, hopefully this dude shines. I don’t know shit about Canadian league football, but I’m gonna be paying a little more attention this year.

Ruhskins 04-13-2022 10:40 AM

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Looks like Josh McD won't be running off this QB out of town like the last time he was in charge of a team:

@RapSheet
The #Raiders and star QB Derek Carr have agreed to terms on a 3-year contract extension worth $121.5M, source said. The agreement ties Carr to Las Vegas through the 2025 season. He is already the longest tenured QB in the AFC.

Also, does this mean that Jimmy G's market is dead in the water? Are the 49ers really going to keep him?

skinsfaninok 04-13-2022 10:50 AM

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The #Raiders and QB Derek Carr have reached agreement on a 3-year, $121.5M extension, per
@RapSheet
. That comes in at $40.5M per year in new money. He's now locked in for the foreseeable future -- along with his buddy Davante Adams. Big offseason in Vegas.

Carr making 40M a year makes Carson Wentz's deal cheap as fuck

skinsfaninok 04-13-2022 10:54 AM

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Also Derek Carr isn't any better than Wentz, in fact I'd argue that Wentz has the better future.

Chief X_Phackter 04-13-2022 11:10 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1314923]Looks like Josh McD won't be running off this QB out of town like the last time he was in charge of a team:

@RapSheet
The #Raiders and star QB Derek Carr have agreed to terms on a 3-year contract extension worth $121.5M, source said. The agreement ties Carr to Las Vegas through the 2025 season. He is already the longest tenured QB in the AFC.

Also, does this mean that Jimmy G's market is dead in the water? Are the 49ers really going to keep him?[/quote]

It's pretty hard to imagine a scenario where Jimmy G isn't with the 49ers - at least to start the season. With all the QB movement already taken its course, and the draft coming up, all before his surgery, I'm not sure what (if anything) SF could get for him at this point. They still don't know what they have in Lance either. Might be prudent for them to hang on to him for the time being.

skinsfaninok 04-13-2022 11:12 AM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1314931]It's pretty hard to imagine a scenario where Jimmy G isn't with the 49ers - at least to start the season. With all the QB movement already taken its course, and the draft all coming up, all before his surgery, I'm not sure what (if anything) SF could get for him at this point. They still don't know what they have in Lance either. Might be prudent for them to hang on to him for the time being.[/quote]

They traded all that to draft Lance and he cant even beat Jimmy GQ LMAO


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