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[quote=Giantone;1365315]trump show's his classless ass!

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-mocks-jimmy-carter-170529743.html[/url]

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Donald Trump Mocks Jimmy Carter on His Milestone 100th Birthday[/SIZE][/B]

Donald Trump mocked fellow former President Jimmy Carter during a campaign speech on his predecessor's historic 100th birthday.

Trump, 78, brought up the 39th president of the U.S. while speaking at a manufacturing facility in Waunakee, Wis., on Tuesday, Oct. 1, according to PBS.

After calling President Joe Biden the worst president in U.S. history, Trump told the crowd, “Jimmy Carter is the happiest man because Jimmy Carter is considered a brilliant president by comparison,” according to The Daily Beast and USA Today.

Trump's comment about the Carter legacy was made as other Republican leaders put aside partisanship to honor the longest-living president's centennial birthday, which came more than 19 months after he entered hospice care in February 2023.[/quote]

There is no limit to the level of A-hole for this man. And he has a damned good chance of winning the Presidency. We are so broken as a country.

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[B]trump crowd size....................[/B]


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So, is anyone still thinking Walz was the right choice? Harris would be running away with this if she had picked either of the other two options.

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[quote=nonniey;1365359]So, is anyone still thinking Walz was the right choice? Harris would be running away with this if she had picked either of the other two options.[/quote]

Walz might be the worst vice-presidential candidate of all times. Dude is just off. Such a kooky weirdo.

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Walz appeals to me as the only progressive of the four but he definitely was owned by Vance. There really is no difference between Harris and Vance as they are both soft money whores for corporations. Trump is to but he sets himself apart as trying to dismantle our democracy via a false elector scam.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1365368]Walz appeals to me as the only progressive of the four but he definitely was owned by Vance. There really is no difference between Harris and Vance as they are both soft money whores for corporations. Trump is to but he sets himself apart as trying to dismantle our democracy via a false elector scam.[/quote]

Nether one was impressive but Walz made Vance look stupid at the end. Walz wasn't my pick but he is head and shoulders above Vance.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1365368]Walz appeals to me as the only progressive of the four but he definitely was owned by Vance. There really is no difference between Harris and Vance as they are both soft money whores for corporations. Trump is to but he sets himself apart as trying to dismantle our democracy via a false elector scam.[/quote]

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Deleted - duplicate response.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1365368]Walz appeals to me as the only progressive of the four but he definitely was owned by Vance. There really is no difference between Harris and Vance as they are both soft money whores for corporations. Trump is to but he sets himself apart as trying to dismantle our democracy via a false elector scam.[/quote]

It's him being a progressive that may cost her the election. It undermines her ability to present herself as more moderate. And boy you must be very far left.

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[quote=nonniey;1365381]It's him being a progressive that may cost her the election. It undermines her ability to present herself as more moderate. And boy you must be very far left.[/quote]

You really don't need to be "far left" to understand that creating fake electors to try to steal an election is wrong and most definitely undermines our democracy. And of course illegal. But it's apparent that the law means nothing to the Trump supporters.

The Party of Law and Order my ass, it is now The Party Of Trump Ass Kissers.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1365385]You really don't need to be "far left" to understand that creating fake electors to try to steal an election is wrong and most definitely undermines our democracy. And of course illegal. But it's apparent that the law means nothing to the Trump supporters.

The Party of Law and Order my ass, it is now The Party Of Trump Ass Kissers.[/quote]

And what has that to do with the price of tea in China? The comment was that Walz being progressive is what may cost Harris the election (May - not will) and a comment on Baltimoreskins, given his criticism of Harris, as being on the very extreme left - Jill Stein or Amy Goodman territory.

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I find it strange some think that Walz could cost Harris the Election but Vance will not cost trump the election? Sorry but IMPO people aren't making their voting choices based on the VP's in this election it is based on trump or anti trump. Right or wrong but it's how I see it.

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[quote=nonniey;1365388]And what has that to do with the price of tea in China? The comment was that Walz being progressive is what may cost Harris the election (May - not will) and a comment on Baltimoreskins, given his criticism of Harris, as being on the very extreme left - Jill Stein or Amy Goodman territory.[/quote]

I guess I view left as relative. I prefer to think I will vote for you if you are the right person for the job. (I voted Hogan twice, I voted Chris West our State Senator and Wade Kach our County council all Republicans because while I might not agree with them on every issue I appreciate some of what they have done). For the President for me that is they have to make civil liberties a priority over corporate interests. I have voted for Jill Stein. I did not in 2020 because she did the bat shit crazy anti vaxxer thing to cater to the home schooling hippies. Prior I voted Ralph Nader. Basically if you were interested in the rights of the worker and those whose voice is drowned because we decided having money = having a voice.

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After a trump Rally.


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...........making America a trash dump.

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Damn, Biden/Harris will do anything for democrats to win in 2024...

White House To Impose 1-Day Lockdown On Tuesday So They Can Take Credit For All 158 Million Jobs Coming Back On Wednesday

[url]https://thegloriousamerican.com/health/white-house-to-impose-1-day-lockdown-on-tuesday-so-they-can-take-credit-for-all-158-million-jobs-coming-back-on-wednesday-10-8-24/[/url]

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Sad the right thinks that this is all a Joke. I realize trump is a joke but his lies are real.

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/crowd-members-hold-white-supremacist-090826711.html[/url]

[B]Crowd members hold up white supremacist group's slogan at Trump/Vance event[/B]

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/fake-firefighters-trump-expose-another-142827066.html[/url]
[B]
Trump Exposed for Having More Fake Fans at His Rally[/B]

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This just isn't funny anymore, it's sad.

[B]Trump suggests a protester may get 'the hell knocked out of her' by her parents[/B]
[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/trump-suggests-protester-may-hell-155706110.html[/url]

[B]Trump made shocking slur about Harris during angry rant to billionaire donors, says report[/B]

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/trump-made-shocking-slur-harris-152557474.html[/url]

[B]'Totally illegal': Trump escalates rhetoric on outlawing political dissent and criticism[/B]

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/totally-illegal-trump-escalates-rhetoric-140000265.html[/url]

[B]Trump Thinks the Military Should Handle Citizens Who Disagree With Him[/B]

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/trump-thinks-military-handle-citizens-165514211.html[/url]

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This article highlights the problem the Dems refuse to see (which will continue if they win). Both parties need a massive course correction, but whoever wins won't make that correction.


"....We are three weeks out from Election Day and one thing has become clear: Trump might actually win.

A Trump win would raise a lot of questions for Republicans. He's an objectively bad candidate who doesn't represent conservatism well.

However, it would raise even more questions for Democrats. How could they have lost to such a uniquely awful opponent.......

...In the past couple of decades, the Democratic Party has built its foundation around far-left ideas. If Trump wins reelection, it will be yet another indication that much of the nation has rejected such progressive policies.""

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/10/15/trump-harris-election-polls-democrats/75584547007/[/url]

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I believe Trump will win. I believe there are a ton of voters who are voting on nothing more than the price of eggs. They are too stupid and uninformed to understand that post COVID inflation was a global problem and not specific to the US. They probably can't stand the guy but have been convinced that the country was better under Trump based entirely on their grocery bill.

So they will hold their nose and vote for Donald Trump and their vote counts as much as mine does.

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I think too many have turned their backs on Trump, all of his let's say more casual supporters have seriously dwindled. Trump fatigue is real. He's down to just a hard core base and that won't be enough, just not buying this bologna about it being a close race.

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[quote=MTK;1365898]I think too many have turned their backs on Trump, all of his let's say more casual supporters have seriously dwindled. Trump fatigue is real. He's down to just a hard core base and that won't be enough, just not buying this bologna about it being a close race.[/quote]

You're lips to God's ears!

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1365897]I believe Trump will win. I believe there are a ton of voters who are voting on nothing more than the price of eggs. They are too stupid and uninformed to understand that post COVID inflation was a global problem and not specific to the US. They probably can't stand the guy but have been convinced that the country was better under Trump based entirely on their grocery bill.

[B]So they will hold their nose and vote for Donald Trump and their vote counts as much as mine does[/B].[/quote]

No , it doesn't . The Electoral College will see to that. That is the only thing that will save trump.

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The polls continue to make it a toss up and Trump has always outperforrmed the polls. I don't see how that can be ignored.

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Chase Oliver: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Oliver[/url]

If you're not voting for Trump, then look for another option that isn't Kamala, because she is awful, and Walz is even worse.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1365913]Chase Oliver: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Oliver[/url]

If you're not voting for Trump, then look for another option that isn't Kamala, because she is awful, and Walz is even worse.[/quote]

It's trump or Harris and only one wants to keep this Country's Democracy going. The other wants a Dictatorship.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1365913]Chase Oliver: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Oliver[/url]

If you're not voting for Trump, then look for another option that isn't Kamala, because she is awful, and Walz is even worse.[/quote]

I'm a one issue voter this cycle, stopping Trump. Harris is the only viable option to accomplish that issue. My vote was never "for" her.

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[quote=Giantone;1365919]It's trump or Harris and only one wants to keep this Country's Democracy going. The other wants a Dictatorship.[/quote]

But you also want to end the Electoral College. You must be very conflicted. Because you can't want to save our Republic but also want to terminate one of the few things that actually saves it.

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[quote=nonniey;1365922]I'm a one issue voter this cycle, stopping Trump. Harris is the only viable option to accomplish that issue. My vote was never "for" her.[/quote]

If you could replace Trump with a the 1st repulican you would actually vote for, who would it be? I have a tough time getting a read on your overall views. This might make it a little easier. What repulican would you like to be president in January?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1365926]If you could replace Trump with a the 1st repulican you would actually vote for, who would it be? I have a tough time getting a read on your overall views. This might make it a little easier. What repulican would you like to be president in January?[/quote]

I liked Haley the best of those who ran but would have supported Desantis as well. I would not support Vance or any of the populists.

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[quote=nonniey;1365929]I liked Haley the best of those who ran but would have supported Desantis as well. I would not support Vance or any of the populists.[/quote]

Thanks for responding. You're like the Dos Equis man or something. I don't see lot of similarities between Haley and DeSantis personally, so that's an interesting split. Doesn't mean they don't exist though.

Bonus question: How would you describe a populist?

Turnabout is fair play, I'll answer any 3 questions, if you want to ask, by Friday afternoon.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1365923]But you also want to end the Electoral College. You must be very conflicted. Because you can't want to save our Republic but also want to terminate one of the few things that actually saves it.[/quote]

yes I do and here is an example why...........

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/electoral-college-incinerate-half-million-083351234.html[/url]

Electoral College will incinerate a half-million Kansas votes for Kamala. That’s a problem.

I agree everyone's vote should count, the electoral College takes that away

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[quote=Giantone;1365931]yes I do and here is an example why...........

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/electoral-college-incinerate-half-million-083351234.html[/url]

Electoral College will incinerate a half-million Kansas votes for Kamala. That’s a problem.

I agree everyone's vote should count, the electoral College takes that away[/quote]

Trump won 56% of the popular vote in Kansas in 2020. So to "save" the above votes you would then need to "incinerate" the majority of Kansas votes. The Electoral College is the only thing that gives Kansas as a state any voice at all.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1365937]Trump won 56% of the popular vote in Kansas in 2020. So to "save" the above votes you would then need to "incinerate" the majority of Kansas votes. The Electoral College is the only thing that gives Kansas as a state any voice at all.[/quote]

trump has never won a popular vote election, ever. Kansa voters vote should count the same as mine no more no less.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1365930]Thanks for responding. You're like the Dos Equis man or something. I don't see lot of similarities between Haley and DeSantis personally, so that's an interesting split. Doesn't mean they don't exist though.

Bonus question: How would you describe a populist?

Turnabout is fair play, I'll answer any 3 questions, if you want to ask, by Friday afternoon.[/quote]

Populists use divisive them versus us tactics, resort to making promises to address acute or short term needs of a group of people (which is why populists are usually Dems in the US) that often are detrimental to the long term interests of those same people and the country as a whole. This MAGA version is isolationist, xenophobic nationalist, anti-immigration (problem is it includes legal immigration), is opposed to free trade and opposed to entitlement reform for entitlements benefiting to their group (In this case social security).

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[quote=Giantone;1365942]trump has never won a popular vote election, ever. Kansa voters vote should count the same as mine no more no less.[/quote]

I used to know the argument for the Electoral College which was so good it convinced a liberal friend of mine to change his mind and drop his opposition to it. But that was 7 years ago and frankly I have CRS (Can't remember shit). Since it won't be changed, ever, no point in actually arguing about it here or anywhere.

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LOL................wow!


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CZFbCTc2LM[/url]

8: 39 is when it gets good.

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Harris did well in the combative FOX interview. She proved Her administration will be different then Biden's and she sure as hell answered question unlike trump when she was allowed to answer them. Face it to the Harris deniers She is more Presidential then trump or any other Candidate out their right now.

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/16/us/politics/kamala-harris-fox-news-interview.html[/url]

Would trump get the same treatment from FOX?

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The Pro trump here and even the I'm not for trump trumpers would bitch and Biden's age and his rally's if there was a misstep or flubbed line. My question to them is why does trump not get the same treatment from the right wing nuts?


This is an Opinion piece I agree with.

from just this week alone!

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/opinion-trump-said-many-stupid-080339071.html[/url]

Trump started off the week at a town hall in Pennsylvania moderated by South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem. Early on in the night, two supporters needed medical personnel. His response?

Trump told his crew to play the music "nice and loud".

Then, for 39 minutes, Trump swayed while his favorite songs played. The playlist included “Nothing Compares 2 U” by Sinead O’Connor, “Y.M.C.A.” by Village People and “It’s a Man’s Man’s Man’s World” by James Brown. He walked off the stage to “November Rain” by Guns N’ Roses. “Memory” from the musical “Cats” rounded out the night.

At 78, Trump would be the oldest president in our nation’s history – something that becomes more apparent every day. He doesn’t seem to think it’s an issue.


The next day, when talking about his Supreme Court nominees with Bloomberg at the Economic Club of Chicago, Trump made a comment about the age of his appointees.

“You tend to put them in young,” Trump said. “Only stupid people put old."

[B]Trump jokes about family of Georgia woman who died because of abortion ban[/B]
Right before a Fox News town hall in Georgia, he joked about the family of Amber Thurman, a 28-year-old woman who died after doctors delayed necessary care due to the state's six-week abortion ban. To Trump, that's an acceptable punchline.

"Amber Thurman’s family have come out on a press call, and they’re doing what’s called a prebuttal to our town hall right now," Fox News host Harris Faulkner told Trump before the event began.

"Oh, that’s nice," he said. “We’ll get better ratings, I promise.”
It shouldn't have to be said, but death should never be a joke.
It's especially vile when you remember that the overturning of Roe v. Wade happened because of Trump − something he has bragged about on the campaign trail.

He has repeatedly tried to obscure his record on abortion rights. At the same Fox News town hall, that extended to in vitro fertilization, a practice that has come into question in the post-Roe era.

“I’m the father of IVF, so I want to hear this question,” Trump said when asked about the procedure. No, no one is really sure what he means by that.

Trump previously expressed support for in vitro fertilization in the wake of the Alabama Supreme Court decision that threatened it. The Republican Party could do something about it, but no: A bill to protect access to the procedure is stalled in Congress.
[B]
Trump continues spewing lies and hate about immigrants[/B]
During his interview with Bloomberg Editor-in-Chief John Micklethwait, Trump doubled down on his claim that a Venezuelan gang has taken over an apartment complex in Aurora, Colorado, despite the mayor calling this story “grossly exaggerated.”
Then, on Wednesday, he would not take back his false claims about Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio, eating pets when asked about it during a town hall for Latino voters hosted by Univision.

“I was just saying what was reported, that's been reported – and eating other things too, that they're not supposed to be,” Trump said.

These stories are harmful to the communities they purport to be about. It is shameful that Trump and his running mate, Sen. JD Vance of Ohio, refuse to apologize for spreading these falsehoods.

No matter where Trump goes, he says something awful. We as a country deserve better than an overgrown, spoiled oligarch who can't stop spouting hate.



[B] This man is a moron, how smart intelligent people can follow this moron is a mystery , these people are idiots it is a cult, a dangerous one.[/B]

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WTF is wrong with this guy?????


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