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calia 03-14-2024 06:03 PM

Re: Commanders 2024 Free Agency Thread
 
Curtis Samuel to the Bills for 3 yrs and $24m.


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rocnrik 03-14-2024 07:04 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1360378]I will root for Sam for the entirety of his career. Hope he is the second best quarterback behind whoever we pick at 2 for years to come.

Adam Peters continues to knock it out of the park.[/quote]

yep👍👍👍👍

That Guy 03-14-2024 08:38 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1360351]Ekeler averaged a paltry 3.5 ypc last year and had 628 yards and got hurt. But if he is used just as a 3rd down back then that's probably good.
[/quote]

628 rushing, 436 receiving. not sure on snap count, but not as bad as it seems. Other sites are reporting 2y/8.4m (4.2/per) vs the 11m (5.5/per) I've seen... I'm not sure which is right (or is that just incentives?), but at 4.2 it's a much better deal.


wagner is a 1-year rental, and I think it's fine for what we paid. he still had 183 tackles and 3.5 sacks last year.

rocnrik 03-14-2024 08:43 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1360378]I will root for Sam for the entirety of his career. Hope he is the second best quarterback behind whoever we pick at 2 for years to come.

Adam Peters continues to knock it out of the park.[/quote]

yep👍👍👍👍

That Guy 03-14-2024 08:44 PM

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DE has some old guys like calais campbell, jadeveon clowney, or, you know, chase young :P

It'd be funny if we did the hockey thing where we sign young to 1-year deals and loan him out to playoff teams for picks every year.

NC_Skins 03-14-2024 09:36 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1360353]We still have six draft picks in the top 101, the second wave of free agency which thanks to these contracts we have room to be a player in that part as well, And finally there's the cuts that come after the draft that we can take advantage of. To get this many top quality starters and role players this early gives this coaching staff a ton of room to plan and build their vision.

These moves aren't the end of the plan, they are clearly foundational moves for building a strong competitive franchise.
[/quote]


Yeah, not sure why he's in an uproar about those FA moves. They were one year deals at lost costs. It's a win win. You upgrade what you had before without breaking the bank and allowing you to use them as stop gaps. Ertz, Ekeler, and Wagner were great moves IMO. Not much risk to them. If they flop, it was a one year deal. Nobody cares.

skinsfan69 03-15-2024 07:17 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1360402]Yeah, not sure why he's in an uproar about those FA moves. They were one year deals at lost costs. It's a win win. You upgrade what you had before without breaking the bank and allowing you to use them as stop gaps. Ertz, Ekeler, and Wagner were great moves IMO. Not much risk to them. If they flop, it was a one year deal. Nobody cares.[/quote]

If you read what I wrote I do like some of the moves and overall I like that Peters is shaking things up. There were a few that I would have passed on. Definitely not in an uproar.. These are all smart signings financially.

mredskins 03-15-2024 07:39 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1360420]If you read what I wrote I do like some of the moves and overall I like that Peters is shaking things up. There were a few that I would have passed on. Definitely not in an uproar.. These are all smart signings financially.[/quote]

rome wasn't built in a day

i would think adams is trying to build something competitive for next year then to continue to build from there

non of these signings make super excited that we are even playoff bound next year but its a start

skinsfaninok 03-15-2024 08:31 AM

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Kam Curl only got 6m a yr....

KI Skins Fan 03-15-2024 08:43 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1360353]We still have six draft picks in the top 101, the second wave of free agency which thanks to these contracts we have room to be a player in that part as well, And finally there's the cuts that come after the draft that we can take advantage of. To get this many top quality starters and role players this early gives this coaching staff a ton of room to plan and build their vision.

[B]These moves aren't the end of the plan, they are clearly foundational moves for building a strong competitive franchise.[/B]

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Well said! It feels so good to see our new leadership in action that I can hardly wait until the draft.

GridIron26 03-15-2024 08:47 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1360426]Kam Curl only got 6m a yr....[/quote]

And we don't want to pay him that much? I would prefer to have Curl instead of Chinn..

EdmundDorf 03-15-2024 08:52 AM

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[quote=GridIron26;1360429]And we don't want to pay him that much? I would prefer to have Curl instead of Chinn..[/quote]

Chinn fits what they want to do, but Curl is so bright and versatile I am surprised they could not find a spot for him, especially at that price. Its not like they have better options with Percy Butler and Darrick Forrest, they are just cheaper.

Chief X_Phackter 03-15-2024 09:18 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1360426]Kam Curl only got 6m a yr....[/quote]

Seems a little odd we weren't willing to match that. Maybe he didn't want to come back, or maybe they didn't think he was a good fit.

It's funny how our LB group looks to be the strongest position group on the Defense - for now.

njant 03-15-2024 09:28 AM

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love how the off season and FA signings have gone but still two positions of need are OT and CB little surprised we have not signed either one yet , ,, thruthfully we really don,t have any OT on the roster and razor thin at CB

Chico23231 03-15-2024 09:42 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1360426]Kam Curl only got 6m a yr....[/quote]

And the fuller contract…

Maybe, just maybe the league isn’t as upbeat about our players as we are.

Can’t wait to hear Kam’s dad reaction. He’s a complete bitch ass

nonniey 03-15-2024 10:29 AM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1360433]Seems a little odd we weren't willing to match that. Maybe he didn't want to come back, or maybe they didn't think he was a good fit.

It's funny how our LB group looks to be the strongest position group on the Defense - for now.[/quote]

Actually I'm beginning to think one of the objectives was a big turnover to ease a change in locker room culture. That could explain passing on retaining our own players.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-15-2024 10:36 AM

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Maybe, just maybe the front office didnt think he was as good as some fans thought, he's a solid tackler and he wanted almost double what he ended up getting. The league showed his value. We arent missing out on anything

jamf 03-15-2024 11:28 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1360437]

Maybe, just maybe the league isn’t as upbeat about our players as we are.

[/quote]

We are dazzled by basic bitches.

skinsfaninok 03-15-2024 11:32 AM

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Greg Curl
@CoachGCurl
Market was over saturated and other safeties taking trash deals kinda jacked it up for everybody but we good with the overall situation and placement!

EdmundDorf 03-15-2024 12:41 PM

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[quote=jamf;1360450]We are dazzled by basic bitches.[/quote]

More often than not the simplest answer is the correct one

Chico23231 03-15-2024 01:01 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1360452]Greg Curl
@CoachGCurl
Market was over saturated and other safeties taking trash deals kinda jacked it up for everybody but we good with the overall situation and placement![/quote]

This the same dude who laughed at Ben Standig for suggesting $10 mill per year was the estimate. Said it was low

Gtfo

mooby 03-15-2024 05:26 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1360461]This the same dude who laughed at Ben Standig for suggesting $10 mill per year was the estimate. Said it was low

Gtfo[/quote]

Gotta wonder if Kam regrets signing now that Aaron Donald is retiring. LOL. Talk about fucked up timing.

I wish him the best though - I think the last staff had him doing too much. If his new coordinator puts him in one position where he excels he can definitely rebound.

calia 03-15-2024 06:08 PM

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[QUOTE=mooby;1360474]Gotta wonder if Kam regrets signing now that Aaron Donald is retiring. LOL. Talk about fucked up timing.

I wish him the best though - I think the last staff had him doing too much. If his new coordinator puts him in one position where he excels he can definitely rebound.[/QUOTE]


Agree with both points. He was expecting to catch passes fluttering in the air because of AD hitting the QB at the time of the throw. And now….


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punch it in 03-15-2024 06:14 PM

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[QUOTE=njant;1360435]love how the off season and FA signings have gone but still two positions of need are OT and CB little surprised we have not signed either one yet , ,, thruthfully we really don,t have any OT on the roster and razor thin at CB[/QUOTE]


Yeah those are the two positions of need at this point. There must not have been anyone out there they considered good enough and feasible enough (rebuilding smartly requires both) to bring on. They will certainly address both in the draft. The earlier the better.

AnonEmouse 03-15-2024 08:06 PM

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Or they're still talking. Aside from Smith there a re a few guys that could at least start at RT if not LT. Pick up a starting RT now, and get one in the draft early in teh 2nd or trade back up to the 1st.

That Guy 03-16-2024 06:13 AM

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safety WAS flooded, but it's also a low value position. If you're a game changer (again, ST/ed reed/TP etc) you get paid, otherwise you're replaceable.

What probably happened is he was holding out for more money (hence why he signed so much later than others) and the team wasn't willing to wait and hope he came to his senses before the market dried up. If he was willing to accept that deal a week ago, maybe he'd still be here instead. (and some people wanted to tag him :/ )

OT/CB - not much there that's going to help us in FA. You can get middling players or old ones. Anyone worth getting got resigned by their own team pretty quickly.

KI Skins Fan 03-16-2024 09:34 AM

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[quote=That Guy;1360491]safety WAS flooded, but it's also a low value position. If you're a game changer (again, ST/ed reed/TP etc) you get paid, otherwise you're replaceable.

What probably happened is he was holding out for more money (hence why he signed so much later than others) and the team wasn't willing to wait and hope he came to his senses before the market dried up. If he was willing to accept that deal a week ago, maybe he'd still be here instead. (and some people wanted to tag him :/ )

OT/CB - not much there that's going to help us in FA. You can get middling players or old ones. Anyone worth getting got resigned by their own team pretty quickly.[/quote]

Perhaps we can trade for a T or CB.

punch it in 03-16-2024 10:04 AM

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[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240316/5b349614f36a65cfaf101c4c87471832.jpg[/IMG]
Where the hell are you SD? Hope everything is ok. Unusually long time for radio silence from ya.

punch it in 03-16-2024 10:09 AM

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This one I traded back with Arizona from 2-4. Dream scenario here.

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240316/5a7cd3f13736c519e94e38360c73ca52.jpg[/IMG]

Williams is a tweener and played S at Miami. DeJean can play corner. They are both ball hawks and I can see Williams thriving on blitzes in this D.

punch it in 03-16-2024 12:10 PM

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Wrong thread sorry.

AnonEmouse 03-17-2024 07:09 AM

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I'd like to see us sign some like Nijman, Jones or even Peat for T this week. Nijman and Jones have potential ceilings of starting RT if not LT, and would improve depth if nothing else. Then draft another T early, hopefully a starting calibre LT. If we come up of FA just needing to draft 1 each of T, TE and CB, assuming QB with pick #2, then I'd say that was a successful offseason if we get the guys we want in the draft.

We can't turn this team into a SB winner in one season, but it does look like the good foundation is being laid, and the approach of spending, not overspending, in FA will prove its worth in years 2 & 3.

EdmundDorf 03-17-2024 11:38 AM

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New corner...

[quote]John Keim
Washington has signed CB Noah Igbinoghene per source. Depth signing/special teams[/quote].

EdmundDorf 03-18-2024 10:41 AM

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Another CB......

[quote]Nicki Jhabvala
The Commanders announced they signed CB Michael Davis[/quote]

skinsfaninok 03-18-2024 10:46 AM

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Peters has done a great job at signing mid level guys with low risk.

He has killed it this OS

GridIron26 03-18-2024 11:26 AM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1360570]Another CB......[/quote]

Hopefully we signed him primarily for special teams, he was pretty bad as CB last year.

EdmundDorf 03-18-2024 11:28 AM

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[quote=GridIron26;1360573]Hopefully we signed him primarily for special teams, he was pretty bad as CB last year.[/quote]

Veteran experience

nonniey 03-18-2024 07:54 PM

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[quote=GridIron26;1360573]Hopefully we signed him primarily for special teams, he was pretty bad as CB last year.[/quote]

He was pretty bad, so imagine it was for a minimal contract. Now for the really bad news, currently he is the 2d best corner we have and, barring another CB acquisition, probably one of our starters.

EdmundDorf 03-19-2024 10:59 AM

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Lucas coming back

[quote]Nicki Jhabvala
The Commanders are re-signing OT Cornelius Lucas to a one-year deal, source confirmed[/quote].

EdmundDorf 03-19-2024 11:01 AM

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[quote=nonniey;1360606]He was pretty bad, so imagine it was for a minimal contract. Now for the really bad news, currently he is the 2d best corner we have and, barring another CB acquisition, probably one of our starters.[/quote]

Have heard that before last year he was pretty good, last year was asked to play away from what he did best, bit like WJ3, which is why his play dropped off. Sadly, that wad still better than what we had.

KI Skins Fan 03-19-2024 11:05 AM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1360667]Lucas coming back

.[/quote]

There is your Swing Tackle.


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