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Slingin Sammy 33 01-23-2008 08:26 PM

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I think what we will find out once all the dust settles, if GW isn't the guy, is that he was demanding similar control over the franchise as Gibbs had and Snyder wouldn't give up that control...and I don't blame Snyder at all. It's one thing to give complete control over the franchise (that you grew up a fan of and truly love) to someone like Gibbs who the Danny idolizes and is a HoF coach. But it is another thing to give control to someone unproven. GW was not successful in Buffalo and has been inconsistent here.

I have been for setting up the same structure as with Gibbs, Bethard and JKC. Maybe this is what Snyder was trying to set up and GW wouldn't go for it. Obviously this is speculation, but before we dump on Snyder we should wait and see how this shakes out. One thing we should all know for sure is Snyder is a true Redskins fan and he wants to win. We should be greatful for that because I think at least half of the NFL owners are more businessmen worried about profits rather than winning.

Gtothearry 01-23-2008 08:30 PM

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[QUOTE=Slingin Sammy 33;411707] But it is another thing to give control to someone unproven.
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So, we just hand the team over to Cerrato? What has he proven.

SmootSmack 01-23-2008 08:32 PM

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[QUOTE=Gtothearry;411709]So, we just hand the team over to Cerrato? What has he proven.[/QUOTE]

How do you feel about our roster overall?

DynamiteRave 01-23-2008 08:39 PM

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I think we should just make Cerrato our Head Coach and then all of our problems are solved. ;)

Beemnseven 01-23-2008 08:40 PM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;411696]...I'm not sure why you would indict Snyder's decision-making abilities and then ask what he would do to a GM with a record of 50-62.[/QUOTE]

Well, since he is the owner of the team, and has shown no indication that he's going to sell, the only thing we can hope for is for him to fire himself, Cerrato, and let someone else run the show. So being reasonable about it, I have to afford him at least some level of competence to recognize that he and Cerrato aren't fit to lead this franchise to a competitive status.

But you answered correctly -- he would fire the GM with a 50-62 record. So why should even the most blindly loyal Snyderatto apologist tell us with a straight face that they deserve another shot to guide the front office operations of this franchise when their record is good enough to get anybody else canned?

Gtothearry 01-23-2008 08:41 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;411710]How do you feel about our roster overall?[/QUOTE]

Depends on how players develop a few years from now. I realize Cerrato played a part in drafting and free agency. The back-ups seemed to work out pretty well this year. Which means Cerrato may be on to something. However it's to early for me to definitively say he has done great things.

I feel like Cerrato is the main reason GW is on the out. I hope im wrong and I hope the skins play well next year. I just don't understand how a team that is constantly in change can ever get anywhere.

rk3025 01-23-2008 08:46 PM

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He may bring Deon, Bruce and Mark back and Arrington too
What happens if NONE of the players are willing to redo contracts and we stay over the cap or get cut and go play for Williams
[QUOTE=Gtothearry;411709]So, we just hand the team over to Cerrato? What has he proven.[/QUOTE]

wordsmithgk 01-23-2008 09:05 PM

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Yes this is very disappointing news one cannot expect to be competitive if you keep starting from ground zero every four years or less we can expect to be mired in the basement for a long time to come it is very sad

Slingin Sammy 33 01-23-2008 09:23 PM

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[quote=Gtothearry;411709]So, we just hand the team over to Cerrato? What has he proven.[/quote]
Slow down there, I am not saying we "hand the team over to Cerrato". What I have been for is setting up a similar structure as with Gibbs, Bethard and Jack Kent Cooke. When Gibbs & Bethard disagreed,they would make their cases to JKC who would make the final decision (he was stroking the checks).

For the last 4 years Gibbs effectively had complete control, Danny wasn't going to second guess Gibbs, he idolizes him. If GW is/was demanding the same control as Gibbs then I agree with Snyder not giving him COMPLETE control. That doesn't mean Cerrato has complete control, it means decisions are made with input from multiple people and Snyder has the final say (he is stroking the checks). I'm not a big Cerrato fan, but he has had some success in the past and he's not the only guy in the Personel Department.

Bottom line is that we may not like the face value of where the HC search appears to be going, but we don't know all the factors behind the scenes. Who knows, if Fassel is the HC, Zorn the OC and Ryan/Schwartz the DC that doesn't seem to be a bad staff. The only major drawback would be compensation for the DC.

rk3025 01-23-2008 09:29 PM

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Gibbs had control long enough and Vinny and Dan need a Puppet

=Slingin Sammy 33;411744]Slow down there, I am not saying we "hand the team over to Cerrato". What I have been for is setting up a similar structure as with Gibbs, Bethard and Jack Kent Cooke. When Gibbs & Bethard disagreed,they would make their cases to JKC who would make the final decision (he was stroking the checks).

For the last 4 years Gibbs effectively had complete control, Danny wasn't going to second guess Gibbs, he idolizes him. If GW is/was demanding the same control as Gibbs then I agree with Snyder not giving him COMPLETE control. That doesn't mean Cerrato has complete control, it means decisions are made with input from multiple people and Snyder has the final say (he is stroking the checks). I'm not a big Cerrato fan, but he has had some success in the past and he's not the only guy in the Personel Department.

Bottom line is that we may not like the face value of where the HC search appears to be going, but we don't know all the factors behind the scenes. Who knows, if Fassel is the HC, Zorn the OC and Ryan/Schwartz the DC that doesn't seem to be a bad staff. The only major drawback would be compensation for the DC.[/QUOTE]

The Zimmermans 01-23-2008 09:31 PM

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It's really really hard to jump for joy with every move we make, knowing that we will throw it out the window the following year. Lets see best three redskins seasons since 91

1999 Norv's 3rd year? 2005 Gibb's 2nd year, 2007, Gibb's 4th year. All those years....absolutely no changes, same QB, same HC, same DC, same OC. Every other year........JIM FASSEL.........STEVE SPURRIER........ Did Snyder ever graduate history, he needs to learn from the past once in a while. Especially if he's the redskins fan that he claims to be.

The Zimmermans 01-23-2008 09:33 PM

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nevermind, redskins just denied the rumors haha

JGisLordOfTheRings 01-23-2008 09:35 PM

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[quote=The Zimmermans;411758]nevermind, redskins just denied the rumors haha[/quote]

hold up, say what??

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 01-23-2008 09:36 PM

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[quote=The Zimmermans;411758]nevermind, redskins just denied the rumors haha[/quote]

What?!?! Explain further...denied what?

JGisLordOfTheRings 01-23-2008 09:37 PM

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[quote=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;411765]What?!?! Explain further...denied what?[/quote]


Yes, please. I am very confused here.


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