[QUOTE=Mattyk;1000697]We need about $5M for the draft alone.[/QUOTE]

are you sure? i thought it was much less especially with no first.

edit: schneed has our rookie pool impact at 1/2 million.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1000701]are you sure? i thought it was much less especially with no first.[/quote]

$4-5M is generally the cap space needed for all teams for the draft.

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Even with no first rounder?

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[url=http://www.overthecap.com/rookie-pool-estimate.php]» Over the Cap- 2013 NFL Draft Rookie Pool Allocations[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;1000704][url=http://www.overthecap.com/rookie-pool-estimate.php]» Over the Cap- 2013 NFL Draft Rookie Pool Allocations[/url][/quote]

Nice link... we're the only team with a Signing bonus allocation less than year one allocation.

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[quote=Mattyk;1000702]$4-5M is generally the cap space needed for all teams for the draft.[/quote]

Yes but it's also for post-draft and inseason moves (ie unsigned free agents, guys go on IR, etc.).

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I am thinking that not having a first round pick means you need a much smaller rookie pool.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1000715]I am thinking that not having a first round pick means you need a much smaller rookie pool.[/quote]

It stands to reason...

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i'd be shocked if we needed more than 4mill for rookies. they'll all basically be vet min deals. only the 2nd round guy is going to get any kind of money, and he's a late pick at that.

plus any of the late rounders that don't make it out of camp disappear. yay for non-guaranteed contracts.

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[quote=That Guy;1000728]i'd be shocked if we needed more than 4mill for rookies. they'll all basically be vet min deals. only the 2nd round guy is going to get any kind of money, and he's a late pick at that.

plus any of the late rounders that don't make it out of camp disappear. yay for non-guaranteed contracts.[/quote]

Polian basically said you need 3-4 mil for the draftees which you know exactly how much based on research of where your draft picks are based on the new rookie wage scale. They would then estimate one to two trades up just to have some wiggle room. They would then evaluate the roster for people they think could be reasonably likely to end up on IR and budget for that. Between that and 8 practice squad guys you are looking at 4-5 mil which put him at his figure of 8.5-9 mil in space.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1000736]Polian basically said you need 3-4 mil for the draftees which you know exactly how much based on research of where your draft picks are based on the new rookie wage scale. They would then estimate one to two trades up just to have some wiggle room. They would then evaluate the roster for people they think could be reasonably likely to end up on IR and budget for that. Between that and 8 practice squad guys you are looking at 4-5 mil which put him at his figure of 8.5-9 mil in space.[/quote]But we don't have a first round pick, which means we need to keep about $800,000 free for the draft class.

Teams with high first round picks need to keep $4-5.5 million on hand. Our rookie class almost drops our salary figure.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;1000708]Yes but it's also for post-draft and inseason moves (ie unsigned free agents, guys go on IR, etc.).[/quote]

gotcha

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[quote=SkinzWin;1000736]Polian basically said you need 3-4 mil for the draftees which you know exactly how much based on research of where your draft picks are based on the new rookie wage scale. They would then estimate one to two trades up just to have some wiggle room. They would then evaluate the roster for people they think could be reasonably likely to end up on IR and budget for that. Between that and 8 practice squad guys you are looking at 4-5 mil which put him at his figure of 8.5-9 mil in space.[/quote]

you mean IR rookie draftees that don't get injury settlements, which is likely 1 guy that wouldn't even be in the top 51 anyways. i didn't talk about trades, I said for our DRAFT CLASS. our 2nd round pick will be about 35 maybe? on the top 51, the rest probably don't even register.

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You still only have to the cap space once you actually sign them right? It's not like draft day the NFL docks you xMil for rookie pool

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1000750]You still only have to the cap space once you actually sign them right? It's not like draft day the NFL docks you xMil for rookie pool[/quote]Effectively yes, because they just dock you league minimum per player drafted until they sign.

So if you had less than 51 players under contract, draft day could put you over the cap, in theory.