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Once we sign DJ Hackett or we clearly see that CJ isnt coming here then this thread will be buried

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CJ's probably hoping that the thread ends up being 85 pages long.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;425958]CJ's probably hoping that the thread ends up being 85 pages long.[/quote]


probably it would be another accomplishment for him I guess LOL

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Why only 12 hours, he's not a free agent. I thought the trade deadline was later in the year

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[quote=Tha Posse;425973]Why only 12 hours, he's not a free agent. I thought the trade deadline was later in the year[/quote]


trades start with the free agency

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I only said 12 hrs cause some one posted the perverbial "he will be signed by Tues." my assumption was today/Tues. again assuming the person would mean the closest Tues.

WHERE YA AT 85?

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Can someone please close this thread?

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I like CJ and think he's a great talent. Funny. and a great game changer. I wanted him when this topic came up due to the fact we had no WR's except Moss. He would have made our team at least 50% better. However lately some of his antics have me saying ....think god we didn't make a trade for him. ....

[quote]The Tysonification Of Ochocinco?
Posted by Mike Florio on June 10, 2009, 9:58 p.m.
The signs have been there for a couple of years, and now it might actually be happening.

Bengals receiver Chad Ochocinco might be crossing the line from athlete who eschews convention to full-blown whack-job caricature.

The latest evidence? Our friends at WLWT in Cincinnati advise us that Ochocinco was spotted leaving a Red Lobster in the Queen City with three small tattoos.

On his face.

Just like Mike Tyson.

We’re told that, on one cheek, there’s a small cross. The other cheek displays an image of the stagte of Florida. Finally, the letters “OC” appear on his forehead.

They’re all small. But they’re on his face.

Video apparently will be posted on WLWT’s web site later tonight.

UPDATE: Ochocinco has a picture of one of his new tats as his Twitter photo. And his latest entry, added moments ago, was in response to chadparnell1: “what they say on pro football talk?” Gulp.

SECOND UPDATE: Robert Littal of BlackSportsOnline.com sent along an enlarged picture of Ochocinco’s right cheek, which shows two crosses. It doesn’t look too bad. Still, it’s a tattoo on his face. For a guy who blows hot and cold on any given subject at any given time, the idea of doing something so permanent seems odd. We think they’ll be removed within five years.

[/quote]

[url]http://blacksportsonline.com/index/2009/06/ocho-cinco-goes-mike-tysonnot.html[/url]

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[quote=SBXVII;562347]I like CJ and think he's a great talent. Funny. and a great game changer. I wanted him when this topic came up due to the fact we had no WR's except Moss. He would have made our team at least 50% better. However lately some of his antics have me saying ....think god we didn't make a trade for him. ....



[url=http://blacksportsonline.com/index/2009/06/ocho-cinco-goes-mike-tysonnot.html]Ocho Cinco Goes Mike Tyson With Face Tat?? .. Not Really .. Relax - Robert Littal Presents The Infamous BlackSportsOnline[/url][/quote]

You really think one WR would make our team 50% better?

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What does "50% better" exactly mean?

Would we have scored 50% more points?
Would we have 50% more passing yards or completion %?
Would we have scored 50% of the time more in the red zone?
Would we have won 50% more games?
Or is it just some sort of arbitrary metric established to make some sensational claim?

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[quote=Rajmahal33;562352]What does "50% better" exactly mean?

Would we have scored 50% more points?
Would we have 50% more passing yards or completion %?
Would we have scored 50% of the time more in the red zone?
Would we have won 50% more games?
Or is it just some sort of arbitrary metric established to make some sensational claim?[/quote]

I'll take arbitrary metrics for 50!

So glad ocho & Cutler are not in b&g, hope it stays that way too.

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[quote=firstdown;562348]You really think one WR would make our team 50% better?[/quote]

I'd say more like 50% as good as we were last year.

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another link [url=http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/06/11/chad-ochocinco-gets-face-tattoos/]Chad Ochocinco Gets Face Tattoos -- NFL FanHouse[/url]

wreckless attitude...check
complete disregard for authority...check
face tattoo...check

this guy is one rape away from being Mike Tyson. Wonder if he is any good at boxing?

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what the bump

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[quote=Stuck in TX;562363]another link [URL="http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/06/11/chad-ochocinco-gets-face-tattoos/"]Chad Ochocinco Gets Face Tattoos -- NFL FanHouse[/URL]

wreckless attitude...check
complete disregard for authority...check
face tattoo...check

this guy is one rape away from being Mike Tyson. Wonder if he is any good at boxing?[/quote]


that is pretty bad dude. Rape is a pretty big step and I hardly think chad is a raptists.

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Those don't even look real. They look like those ink tats you have to apply water to first. Think about it, anyone that gets a tattoo knows that you scab up and it's darkest after you first get it...those look like they are about 10 years old with fading. Those are fakes.

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We have a good young group of wr's, leave it alone

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[quote=tryfuhl;562370]what the bump[/quote]

Yeah no kidding.

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[quote=Stuck in TX;562363]another link [URL="http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/06/11/chad-ochocinco-gets-face-tattoos/"]Chad Ochocinco Gets Face Tattoos -- NFL FanHouse[/URL]

wreckless attitude...check
complete disregard for authority...check
face tattoo...check

this guy is one rape away from being Mike Tyson. Wonder if he is any good at boxing?[/quote]

I don't know about the rape part? but he was boxing or rather training like a boxer. lol. I wonder if he has tendancies to bite ears?

As far as the 50% goes.....well I feel that if we had anyone opposite Moss worth their weight in gold yes we would have scored more points and perhaps have been 50% better. I mean the defense was for the most part carrying their load so if the offense is not and one person can make a difference then yes 50% better. Maybe I should have said 10% better considering their is 11 people on offense.

Look I made up a number. Ok. big deal. I finally change my tune as to not wanting CJ and get my head bit off by the very people who don't want CJ? go figure.

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there fake anyway cause it says it. and plussss anyone who has gotten a tattoo knows they dont look like that right after, there SWOLLEN like hell right after and for the next week or two.

ocho addicted to attention cinco

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[quote=Rajmahal33;562352]What does "50% better" exactly mean?

[B]Would we have scored 50% more points? [/B]
Would we have 50% more passing yards or completion %?
Would we have scored 50% of the time more in the red zone?
Would we have won 50% more games?
Or is it just some sort of arbitrary metric established to make some sensational claim?[/quote]

That would probaly mean we would only need to score like 8 more points a game. I could see CJ giving us that, hell i could see Malcom Kelly doing that.

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[quote=SBXVII;562383]I don't know about the rape part? but he was boxing or rather training like a boxer. lol. I wonder if he has tendancies to bite ears?

As far as the 50% goes.....well I feel that if we had anyone opposite Moss worth their weight in gold yes we would have scored more points and perhaps have been 50% better. I mean the defense was for the most part carrying their load so if the offense is not and one person can make a difference then yes 50% better. Maybe I should have said 10% better considering their is 11 people on offense.

Look I made up a number.[B] Ok. big deal. I finally change my tune as to not wanting CJ and get my head bit off by the very people who don't want CJ? go figure[/B].[/quote]

Damnit Man! Where'd you get that number!!! 50%? 50%?!!! :laughing-

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Man, when this thread was created Ochocinco was two words.

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[quote=Schneed10;415841]For some reason there's this perception that Chad Johnson is a malcontent and a locker room problem. Just because he comes up with funky celebrations and is flashy doesn't mean he's not a team player. The guy posts 1400 yard seasons every year.

As for yelling at his QB, the only time I've EVER seen him do that was this year. And is that even really a big problem? QBs and WRs can yell at each other. It happens because they're passionate and want to win. Yelling at each other does not prohibit them from playing well the next time they go back out on the field. Chad Johnson is not the kind of guy who will stop trying (like Randy Moss in Oakland) when things don't go well. He may yell at JC, but he'll still come out to practice and work hard with JC to get it right.

He's said some things about players and coaches in Cinci, but you know what, he's right. That team has ignored character. In fact, CJ is one of their GOOD character guys. He works hard, he delivers consistent performances, and he stays out of trouble. But he's surrounded by morons who break the law and coached by a guy who totally ignores it all (Marvin Lewis). The Bengals deserve criticism and Chad Johnson deserves better.

Anyone who thinks Chad is a bad guy is not paying close enough attention. Celebrations do not mean he's selfish. He's a bit of a diva, but can you say he doesn't work hard?[/quote]


He isn't necessarily a bad guy, but do you really need a diva type coming in and taking over the team? He might piss of Santana, Cooley, Randle El, or even JC if things don't go his way. I agree with a previous poster, try and develop some of these young guys that will stay longer and come at a cheaper initial price. It is time to get dirty and build an actual team and quit this sexy FA pick garbage.

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Why are we even discussing this anymore? The Bengals thankfully saved us from ourselves last year by not accepting two first round picks (we wouldn't have Orakpo, Kelly, Thomas, or Fred Davis) for Chad.

Whether or not he would have been a good member of the B&G we will never know. But he's a Bengal and it's going to stay that way. End of story really.

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[quote=mredskins;562373]that is pretty bad dude. Rape is a pretty big step and I hardly think chad is a raptists.[/quote]

bad humor on my part. I was in no way saying that he was a rapist.

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[quote=tryfuhl;562370]what the bump[/quote]

Well at least they didn't start a new useless/pointless thread. LOL.

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[QUOTE]there fake anyway cause it says it. and plussss anyone who has gotten a tattoo knows they dont look like that right after, there SWOLLEN like hell right after and for the next week or two.
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Oh, I'm betting they are fake. They had him on the NFL network showing off his latest training (boxing) and how it helps hand eye coordination. No tats. I even think he was on the show like last week or the beginning of this week and no tats. If they were new tats they would have the swollen look.

[QUOTE]That would probaly mean we would only need to score like 8 more points a game. I could see CJ giving us that, hell i could see Malcom Kelly doing that[/QUOTE]

Well, like I said if we had one more WR worth their weight in gold to line up opposite Moss then perhaps some of the heat would be taken off Moss to score or Moss would take some of the heat off of someone else. Instead I think we will have 2 WR's worth their weight in gold in DT and MK. Then ARE can play the position he was meant to play. Who knows maybe one of the other Rookie WR's will step up also.

[QUOTE]Damnit Man! Where'd you get that number!!! 50%? 50%?!!!
[/QUOTE]

Ok, work with me here. CJ has had roughly 7 TD's a year. Last yr was a bad yr but I took his overall 53 TD's for the last 8 yrs he's played and got an average of 7 TD's per yr. Now Moss has been in the league for the same 8 yrs but only has 43 TD's overall. So I took the 43 TD's overall and divided by his 8 yrs and came up with 5 TD's per yr average. So in a nutshell 7 TD's and 5 TD's together is 12 TD's out of a 16 game season. In most of those games we lost we were like 3 points down so if we were able to pick up one more TD then naturally we would be winning by 4 points. I took the 4 points and divided it into the 16 game season and that would mean 4 extra games we would have won. Our season was 8-8, but if you add the 4 extra games won our season would have been 12-4, basically sweeping our division. ;) So in essance he would have been 50% of our offense. Of course not including ARE, Portis, Betts, Cooley or Sellers. ;)

[QUOTE]Why are we even discussing this anymore? [/QUOTE]

Umm, good question. I simply thought the tatoo issue was funny. Instead of creating yet another waistful thread I put the tatoo issue under this thread with my creative genius mind spinning it like I was glad we didn't pick up CJ. Nifty huh?

[QUOTE]Well at least they didn't start a new useless/pointless thread. LOL. [/QUOTE]

"I had a dog once....and his name was BINGO."

Plus I was getting tired of discussing the second and third string RB slots.
Seeing the "Landry is MIA" thread at the top of the board everyday.
....and Vick.

I'm just waiting for the "Who would you do" of cheerleaders. LOL :)

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Ok, work with me here. CJ has had roughly 7 TD's a year. Last yr was a bad yr but I took his overall 53 TD's for the last 8 yrs he's played and got an average of 7 TD's per yr. Now Moss has been in the league for the same 8 yrs but only has 43 TD's overall. So I took the 43 TD's overall and divided by his 8 yrs and came up with 5 TD's per yr average. So in a nutshell 7 TD's and 5 TD's together is 12 TD's out of a 16 game season. In most of those games we lost we were like 3 points down so if we were able to pick up one more TD then naturally we would be winning by 4 points. I took the 4 points and divided it into the 16 game season and that would mean 4 extra games we would have won. Our season was 8-8, but if you add the 4 extra games won our season would have been 12-4, basically sweeping our division. ;) So in essance he would have been 50% of our offense. Of course not including ARE, Portis, Betts, Cooley or Sellers. ;)
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Eh. Way too many variables for that to be a valid argument. Chad put up those numbers on an offense without a TE like Cooley or the rushing attack a guy like Portis brings. Also, it's hard to dispute that a healthy Carson Palmer is a good bit better than Jason Campbell right now. Plus the offenses are so different on each team. And to compare Chad's stats to Moss' is tough to do because Santana never had a Houshmanzadeh caliber #2 to draw coverage. To say Chad's numbers on that Bengals team would directly translate into his production as a Redskin isn't a great argument IMO.

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[quote=GMScud;562456]Eh. Way too many variables for that to be a valid argument. Chad put up those numbers on an offense without a TE like Cooley or the rushing attack a guy like Portis brings. Also, it's hard to dispute that a healthy Carson Palmer is a good bit better than Jason Campbell right now. Plus the offenses are so different on each team. And to compare Chad's stats to Moss' is tough to do because Santana never had a Houshmanzadeh caliber #2 to draw coverage. To say Chad's numbers on that Bengals team would directly translate into his production as a Redskin isn't a great argument IMO.[/quote]

Holly Cow, I can't believe you took me seriously. LOL. You know the saying ....

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS."

LOL, it was all BS. lol.

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Lets see ... 50% of 8 wins is 4. 4+8 is 12. 12 wins with 85.

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[quote=Ruhskins;562450]Well at least they didn't start a new useless/pointless thread. LOL.[/quote]

That probably would have been better...putting this thread out of its misery