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[quote=GMScud;546942]I just had a realization: I respect Jerry Jones more than The Little Danny. At least Jones has the balls and integrity to label himself as the general manager. He doesn't operate through some puppet personnel VP.

I'm annoyed. I'm headed out to have some drinks with my girlfriend and enjoy this awesome weather.

Happy Friday everyone.[/quote]


you too man I got a concert I am playing in oh and Ron Dayne won a heisman too so did Chris Weinke

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[quote=GMScud;546942]I just had a realization: I respect Jerry Jones more than The Little Danny. At least Jones has the balls and integrity to label himself as the general manager. He doesn't operate through some puppet personnel VP.

[B]I'm annoyed. I'm headed out to have some drinks with my girlfriend and enjoy this awesome weather.[/B]

[B]Happy Friday everyone[/B].[/quote]

Back atcha GMScud. I think I'll take a couple of fishing poles and head out to Nagshead with my girlfriend tomorrow. The weather is beautiful and Snyder is either pulling off one hell of a smokescreen or he's the biggest idiot this side of the Mississippi. Either way, it's going to be a beautiful day tomorrow!

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Ok guys look, this is what's really going on. Remember Vinny's interview where he said Mayo was his top choice last year, and no one knew about it. (that's right OUR FO actually can keep secrets!) Anyways they see how right they were in there scouting of him and refuse to let the "one" get away again. I truly feel that when this smokescreen clears you will see what I am talking about. In fact you all will being quoting this after it happens... We will trade up for seattles pick, but you will all be very happy! Here is how it will go down.....Det picks Stafford, STL-J Smith, KC- E Monroe, now its our turn we trade up for this pick and take Curry. The FO is using all the ammo from the failed Cutler aqusition and playing their hand perfectly. Everone thinks we are going after Sanchez when we sneak up ouuta no where and take the only surefire pick in the draft!! Just wait and see......Snyderatto will have the last laugh on draft day.

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Oh I almost forgot. We trade them carlos rogers and next years 1st. For the 4th pick this year. This allows Mora to get the qb he really wants in next years draft (Bradford)

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Jason La Canflorio
The Washington Post
April 17, 2009

Snyder Traded to Bengals

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Today the Washington Redskins traded owner Dan Snyder to the Cincinnati Bengals for a late-round 2010 pick and a pack of Ryder tarot cards.

Snyder is expected to start at owner in Cincinnati. The Bengals have long sought an owner to replace Mike Brown, whom they consider to be undersized and lacking in the explosiveness which NFL teams desire. Brown is now expected to back up Snyder.

Redskins coach Jim Zorn said, “This leaves an obvious hole in our roster but we felt that we had to pull the trigger on the deal. With the tarot cards, our organizational decision-making should be better than it has been since 1999.”

It remains unclear who now will fill the position of owner on the Redskins. Early speculation has centered around in-house candidate Clinton Portis, although the Redskins may choose to pick up Matthew McConaughey, who is currently a free agent. The Redskins may also choose to fill the position with the 13th pick in the upcoming NFL draft.

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[quote=Lotus;546957]Jason La Canflorio
The Washington Post
April 17, 2009

Snyder Traded to Bengals

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Today the Washington Redskins traded owner Dan Snyder to the Cincinnati Bengals for a late-round 2010 pick and a pack of Ryder tarot cards.

Snyder is expected to start at owner in Cincinnati. The Bengals have long sought an owner to replace Mike Brown, whom they consider to be undersized and lacking in the explosiveness which NFL teams desire. Brown is now expected to back up Snyder.

Redskins coach Jim Zorn said, “This leaves an obvious hole in our roster but we felt that we had to pull the trigger on the deal. With the tarot cards, our organizational decision-making should be better than it has been since 1999.”

It remains unclear who now will fill the position of owner on the Redskins. Early speculation has centered around in-house candidate Clinton Portis, although the Redskins may choose to pick up Matthew McConaughey, who is currently a free agent. The Redskins may also choose to fill the position with the 13th pick in the upcoming NFL draft.[/quote]

:laughing2 That's one trade I could truly get behind. Best news I've heard all day!

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[quote=Dr Do Itch Big;546956]Oh I almost forgot. We trade them carlos rogers and next years 1st. For the 4th pick this year. This allows Mora to get the qb he really wants in next years draft (Bradford)[/quote]

Not sure if you're seriously predicting that trade scenario...I mean it would do us so little good. Rogers is more valuable to this defense than Curry could be, and giving up next year's pick hurts even more cuz there appears to be a ton of college talent ready to enter the league.

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[quote=Dr Do Itch Big;546955]Ok guys look, this is what's really going on. Remember Vinny's interview where he said Mayo was his top choice last year, and no one knew about it. (that's right OUR FO actually can keep secrets!) Anyways they see how right they were in there scouting of him and refuse to let the "one" get away again. I truly feel that when this smokescreen clears you will see what I am talking about. In fact you all will being quoting this after it happens... We will trade up for seattles pick, but you will all be very happy! Here is how it will go down.....Det picks Stafford, STL-J Smith, KC- E Monroe, now its our turn we trade up for this pick and take Curry. The FO is using all the ammo from the failed Cutler aqusition and playing their hand perfectly. Everone thinks we are going after Sanchez when we sneak up ouuta no where and take the only surefire pick in the draft!! Just wait and see......Snyderatto will have the last laugh on draft day.[/quote]

Yeah, like I mentioned in another post, I'm pretty sure that if we are able to trade up (which we can do if we sacrifice our 2010 1st rounder) it won't be get to Sanchez. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, though I'd rather we didn't trade up at all.

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[quote=SmootSmack;546969]Yeah, like I mentioned in another post, I'm pretty sure that if we are able to trade up (which we can do if we sacrifice our 2010 1st rounder) it won't be get to Sanchez. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, though I'd rather we didn't trade up at all.[/quote]

If we do trade up it better be for someone like Orakpo. That I could handle.

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[quote=Mattyk72;546970]If we do trade up it better be for someone like Orakpo. That I could handle.[/quote]

I think he may even be there at 13

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;546940]So do you think bringing in Sanchez would keep Zorn for more then 2 more years?[/quote]

i think its zorns best shot, yes; although nothing is a given with snyder.

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[quote=SmootSmack;546971]I think he may even be there at 13[/quote]

That would be ideal.

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[quote=Mattyk72;546975]That would be ideal.[/quote]

I don't know, I'd rather have Maualuga if it came down to getting a defensive player at 13.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;546976]I don't know, I'd rather have Maualuga if it came down to getting a defensive player at 13.[/quote]

Hey as long as it's not Sanchez I really don't care. Any of the top defenders or o-lineman and I'm happy.

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[quote=Mattyk72;546977]Hey as long as it's not Sanchez I really don't care. Any of the top defenders or o-lineman and I'm happy.[/quote]

Definitely.

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[quote=SmootSmack;546969]Yeah, like I mentioned in another post, I'm pretty sure that if we are able to trade up (which we can do if we sacrifice our 2010 1st rounder) it won't be get to Sanchez. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, though I'd rather we didn't trade up at all.[/quote]

[quote=Mattyk72;546970]If we do trade up it better be for someone like Orakpo. That I could handle.[/quote]

I hope we don't fall in love with a particular player and throw away picks and money by moving up to get him. (Unless its Aaron Curry :headbange)
I hope we trade down and draft BPA that fills a need.
There will be good players, Vinnie and Co just need to make smart picks.

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I really think the Skins are just playing every card they have to cause confusion...if someone thinks we'll take sanchez...they will try to hop our predicted position and grab him...guaranteeing that he couldn't possibly fall to us...that would keep one more player of interest available at 13....that is good thinking....so this smoke screen of us wanting him may actually be the exact opposite.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;546925]really? Bradford and Tebow both have Heisman's, Tebow had 2 successive very good/outstanding years. Sanchez did what? Led a team that is perennially a powerhouse. I swear my mind is stuck on one argument. USC built the team, then plugged Sanchez in. Exactly what I want the Redskins to do.[/quote]

Didn't Eric Crotch win the Heisman?? That means nothing. Tebow simply doesn't have the passing/pocket skills to make it as QB in the NFL.

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[quote=Mattyk72;546970]If we do trade up it better be for someone like Orakpo. That I could handle.[/quote]

Really Matty? Not Curry or Monroe or the Smiths?

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[quote=Mattyk72;546977]Hey as long as it's not Sanchez I really don't care. Any of the top defenders or o-lineman and I'm happy.[/quote]

Oh sorry i didn't see this :) And a big ditto btw...maybe this Sanchez saga will just provide us w/ a great big exhale of relief a week from now.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;546937]
your "logic" would mean if I said we should trade up to draft Jason Smith, it would mean I thought it was the teams ONLY need, and we were ignoring the others? No, it would just mean that I thought Jason Smith was so head and shoulders above both what we have on this team, and above his peers in the draft, that he was worth trading up to get, even if it meant making fewer improvements in other areas. It wouldnt mean i felt OT was the teams only need.

[B]Feel free to disagree with me, and express your opinion, but dont assert i have opinions which i have not expressed, especially when theyre that outlandish.[/B][/quote]

Well given the fact that a lot of people tend to disagree with your posts, I would say that it is safe to say that your opinions are outlandish.

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[quote=Ruhskins;547001]Well given the fact that a lot of people tend to disagree with your posts, I would say that it is safe to say that your opinions are outlandish.[/quote]

Oh man good stuff here...

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;546908]Its not that i feel any of my arguments have been proven wrong and i'm grasping at straws - its just that none of my previous arguments have done anything to sway you and there's no sense repeating the same arguments over and over again.[/quote]

Your arguments have been proven wrong by a few people here (you just don't admit this). And you keep making the same arguments over and over again.

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;546908]I don't hate Campbell[/quote]

You want to get rid of Jason Campbell, so you hate him as the Redskins QB. Why are you so afraid of admitting this?

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;546908][B]I just dont think he's a good fit here[/B] and i am 100% certain he will be gone after this season at the latest[/quote]

Didn't you say you there's no sense in repeating the same argument over and over again? Well you just did here.

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;546908]so why not move him now and get some value for him if we can? I'd rather get something for him now, than nothing for him later.[/quote]

I think the team tried to do this (this is what makes me think your secretly Snyder).

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;546908]As to my friends - [B]not a single one of them is a redskins fan.[/B] Most of them are lifelong Steelers, Colts, Patriots, and Giants fans and we usually watch games at sports bars together or someones house. Alot of them are much older than me and i trust their input - [B]not a one of them that ive talked tothinks Campbell will succeed in this offense, which agrees with what the paid professionals have been saying since we brought Zorn here.[/B][/quote]

See this is why I made the comment that you mention sources without mentioning them. Can you come up with 3 to 5 articles of paid professionals that have said Campbell won't succeed in Zorns offense? I think it would help your arguments if you did come up with them (I figure given how much you put into your posts, you wouldn't mind doing this).

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;546908]This franchise has been mediocre since Snyder took over and [B]that will never ever change with Campbell at the helm[/B] [/quote]

Yeah, I think you hate Campbell.

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;546908]This franchise has been mediocre since Snyder took over and that will never ever change with Campbell at the helm - he is a guy that doesnt make many mistakes, thats it. He's too timid to ever become great. [B]Campbell ensures this team stays mediocre. [/B] Going 9-7 or 10-6 and playing in the wild card game once every few years doesnt satisfy me.[/quote]

Didn't you get all riled up when I said that you think Jason Campbell is the only problem? Well I think this statement confirms that you think Jason Campbell is the only problem.

Well this was fun.

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[quote=Ruhskins;547006]Your arguments have been proven wrong by a few people here (you just don't admit this). And you keep making the same arguments over and over again.



You want to get rid of Jason Campbell, so you hate him as the Redskins QB. Why are you so afraid of admitting this?



Didn't you say you there's no sense in repeating the same argument over and over again? Well you just did here.



I think the team tried to do this [B](this is what makes me think your secretly Snyder).[/B]

See this is why I made the comment that you mention sources without mentioning them. Can you come up with 3 to 5 articles of paid professionals that have said Campbell won't succeed in Zorns offense? I think it would help your arguments if you did come up with them (I figure given how much you put into your posts, you wouldn't mind doing this).



Yeah, I think you hate Campbell.



Didn't you get all riled up when I said that you think Jason Campbell is the only problem? Well I think this statement confirms that you think Jason Campbell is the only problem.

Well this was fun.[/quote]

LOL! Seriously, moving up to get Sanchez would be the worst decision in the Synder area, and would set our Franchise back a few years. This move would state Synder/Vinny look for talent in drafts instead of need, Zorn does not think JC can be sucessful in the WCO.

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[quote=Ruhskins;547006]Your arguments have been proven wrong by a few people here (you just don't admit this). And you keep making the same arguments over and over again.



You want to get rid of Jason Campbell, so you hate him as the Redskins QB. Why are you so afraid of admitting this?



Didn't you say you there's no sense in repeating the same argument over and over again? Well you just did here.



I think the team tried to do this (this is what makes me think your secretly Snyder).



See this is why I made the comment that you mention sources without mentioning them. Can you come up with 3 to 5 articles of paid professionals that have said Campbell won't succeed in Zorns offense? I think it would help your arguments if you did come up with them (I figure given how much you put into your posts, you wouldn't mind doing this).



Yeah, I think you hate Campbell.



Didn't you get all riled up when I said that you think Jason Campbell is the only problem? Well I think this statement confirms that you think Jason Campbell is the only problem.

[B]Well this was fun[/B].[/quote]

Yes it was

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I don't want this to degenerate into something ugly, so i think its best that we stick to this:

[quote=Ruhskins;547006]
See this is why I made the comment that you mention sources without mentioning them. Can you come up with 3 to 5 articles of paid professionals that have said Campbell won't succeed in Zorns offense? I think it would help your arguments if you did come up with them (I figure given how much you put into your posts, you wouldn't mind doing this).
[/quote]

Actually, i have put links to articles in my posts when we discussed this before, so i didnt feel the need to do it again. Also, these are all articles every respectable internet-loving Redskins fan would have read when we got Zorn in the first place, but apparently some of you have selective memory. Anyway, here are some quotes ala google that speak to his being a poor fit for the WCO, and his weaknesses in general. I only put his weaknesses here because you and others have disputed them in the past and acted as if i was making them up:

[B][U]1. Jim Zorn, Redskins Head Coach[/U][/B]
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/05/AR2008090503414.html?sub=AR]Trying to Get Up to Speed - washingtonpost.com[/url]
[quote]Zorn... was concerned by his[I][B] tendency[/B] to lock onto a particular receiver,[/quote] which contributed to a sack on the first offensive play of the game. Campbell also [I]neglected to attempt to find a primary receiver downfield too often -- opting for "check-downs" to secondary options instead[/I] -- and Zorn is still waiting for a vertical component of his attack take shape. [/QUOTE]
A tendency is not a one-time occurence, its a pattern. Granted, this was the first game of this past season, but its been commented on for years.

[B][U]2. JLCs Famous Anonymous Sources[/U][/B]
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/05/AR2008090503414.html?sub=AR]Trying to Get Up to Speed - washingtonpost.com[/url]

This quote gives me goosebumps every time I read it. If I could fit it in my sig, I would.
[quote]Some scouts and executives believe Campbell is a poor fit for the West Coast offense, with his size and skills favoring seven-step drops and more deep throws, instead of the three-step drops and quick, rhythmic cadence of Zorn's style. "When I watch that team, I think something's going to have to give,"said one NFL executive who has studied Campbell closely and believes he could succeed as a drop-back passer. "Is it the scheme or the quarterback? At some point either the coach is going to have to change what he does to fit the quarterback, or they're going to need a different quarterback."[/quote]

Ok, sorry but i've got to take care of some things, and didnt have time to look for any more articles after that one. This was the first one that came up when I did a search. I'll look for more and add to this post when I have time.

On a side note, if you go back to WP:RI last year, Jason was hating on the marriage of Zorn/Campbell ever since we brought Zorn here. Now, when its being reported we're pursuing another QB, JLC is criticizing the FO even though its a move his own sources, told him was inevitable. Kinda makes you wonder what his motives are...

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I think you are overvaluing the information found in throwaway/space filler non-quotes in articles written over a season ago, but hey, at least it's [I]something[/I].

I mean, I don't think you can take any of this and say Campbell [U]definately[/U] has unresolvable issues in the WCO, but at least you can blame someone for poor reporting.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;547059][B][U]1. Jim Zorn, Redskins Head Coach[/U][/B]
[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/05/AR2008090503414.html?sub=AR"]Trying to Get Up to Speed - washingtonpost.com[/URL]
which contributed to a sack on the first offensive play of the game. Campbell also [I]neglected to attempt to find a primary receiver downfield too often -- opting for "check-downs" to secondary options instead[/I] -- and Zorn is still waiting for a vertical component of his attack take shape. [/quote]
Using quotes from "Some scouts and executives" and an unnamed "NFL Executive" after the first game for Zorn/Campbell together in the WCO against a against a top 5 defense, is hardly solid support for your arguments. Shall we review what Zorn has to say in the same article (Zorn knows a thing or two aobut QBs, and is risking his reputation and livelihood on JC); "[B]Zorn discounted the notion Campbell might not be a perfect fit for this offense but was honest about the length of time necessary to grasp it fully[/B]. He spoke again yesterday about how "wild" Pro Bowl passer Matt Hasselbeck was in his first season in Seattle with Zorn as quarterbacks coach, even after Hasselbeck's four years as a backup in the same system in Green Bay, [B]but said Campbell has enough talent to overcome any hiccups. [/B]
"I think he's got enough athleticism, I really do, to speed up his game in certain situations," Zorn said. "And part of that, I'm hoping, is just the idea of understanding the offense better, the speed of it. He's not there yet, but I'm not totally discouraged. We have to make big plays when the opportunity is there."

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I post the following story not as gospel-truth, of course, but as fuel for this discussion:

Browns will draft Crabtree or Sanchez
[url=http://www.woio.com/Global/story.asp?S=10205907]Sources: Browns Will Take Either Sanchez Or Crabtree[/url]

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[quote=Lotus;547105]I post the following story not as gospel-truth, of course, but as fuel for this discussion:

Browns will draft Crabtree or Sanchez
[URL="http://www.woio.com/Global/story.asp?S=10205907"]Sources: Browns Will Take Either Sanchez Or Crabtree[/URL][/quote]The Browns really haven't done a whole lot to dispute this, with the whole trying to trade the entire offense and all.

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Hey BHA I'm not sold on JC myself, but I certainly see a ton of good stuff that he does.

I want your analysis on what you like as a scout about JC. I'm serious. Tell us what he does well.

Don't give me some two sentence garbage because I know you like to go into detail.

What does JC do well in your opinion?

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[quote=Lotus;547105]I post the following story not as gospel-truth, of course, but as fuel for this discussion:

Browns will draft Crabtree or Sanchez
[url=http://www.woio.com/Global/story.asp?S=10205907]Sources: Browns Will Take Either Sanchez Or Crabtree[/url][/quote]

It looks like the Sanchez point will be moot for us. If Seattle doesn't take him at #4, the Browns will take him at #5. We don't have enough ammo unless we do something TRULY stupid to get up to #3 for him. If we move up at all at this point I can see us trying to get to #9 if Orapko is there so we get him before SF picks.

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[quote=Paintrain;547109]It looks like the Sanchez point will be moot for us. If Seattle doesn't take him at #4, the Browns will take him at #5. We don't have enough ammo unless we do something TRULY stupid to get up to #3 for him.[B] If we move up at all at this point I can see us trying to get to #9 if Orapko is there so we get him before SF picks[/B].[/quote] I agree. That is the only scenario I see us moving up, anything else would be ridiculous.

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[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/04/17/broncos-will-bring-in-sanchez-for-workout/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Broncos will work out USC QB Sanchez on Tuesday «[/url]

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I will stand behind my team if we overlook all of our real needs and waste a pick on a guy who we do not need. I will stand behind my team as JC gets sacked every other play, and we have the leagues fewest sacks. I will stand behind my team when our entire D line is on IR due to Alzheimers. Skins fan for life here, regardless of the utter stupidity of the thought of Sanchez. Hopefully, all this Sanchez hype is so a team that maybe is on the fence about him, will jump on him so we wont get him... thus leaving behind a guy that we could really use.

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What ever came of Sanchez's arrest for sexual assault in 2006?

Oh...that's right...it's USC....nevermind....it got swept under the same rug as the Reggie Bush recruiting violations.

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[quote=AuburnRedskin;547171]What ever came of Sanchez's arrest for sexual assault in 2006?

Oh...that's right...it's USC....nevermind....it got swept under the same rug as the Reggie Bush recruiting violations.[/quote]

Did you know that Brennan got in jail for sex assault too

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[quote=Nflnick11;547173]Did you know that Brennan got in jail for sex assault too[/quote]

No wonder they're trying to get rid of Campbell.....we want a team that won't take no for an answer

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[quote=wilsowilso;547107]Hey BHA I'm not sold on JC myself, but I certainly see a ton of good stuff that he does.

I want your analysis on what you like as a scout about JC. I'm serious. Tell us what he does well.

Don't give me some two sentence garbage because I know you like to go into detail.

What does JC do well in your opinion?[/quote]

JC has alot of great qualities ON the field, but when you asked me that question, the first thing that came to my mind what the guy he is OFF the field. The recent Cutler fiasco is a perfect example of character and class. Yes, the NFL is a business, and players get traded all the time - its a fact of life. But Quarterbacks are different. They deserve extra "respect" by the FO and Campbell had ever right to be pissed:

4 years ago we traded to get him to be our QB of the future. Then we sit him on the bench far too long when the guy in front of him was playing like doo-doo, weve made him learn 3 systems in 4 years and when he's finally been in a system two years in a row - a system he's perfect for - the HC retires, we fire the OC, and bring in a new coach, a new system, one that exposes his flaws and doesnt take advantage of his strengths (which i will discuss in a minute). Zorn specifically tells Snyder, Cerrato, the media, and Campbell that it will take AT LEAST 2-3 years for him to adapt to the system (as it took Matt Hassleback). Campbell has to start from scratch, but atleast its made abundantly clear, that he's not EXPECTED to be great in the system right away. Campbell accepts all of this, works his butt off, does everything asked of him, plays extremely effecient all year, despite a line that started a justin Geisinger at LT at one point, and gets no thanks for it. After only one pretty good year in a system management knows he needs atleast 2-3 years in, they refuses to commit to him and then tries to trade for a whiny diabetic with an alcohol problem behind his back. This team has done nothing but screw him over in one way or another at every turn. If I were Campbell, i'd want the hell out of Washington as soon as I could. What does Campbell do? He goes to work. He says nothing bad about this team publically, or to any friends that might be inclined to leak something to the media. He's handled everything with an incredible amount of intelligence, dignity and class, and i have immense respect in Campbell for that.

Now on to Campbells ON-field Strengths:

1. He's got a HUGE arm and deadly accurate deep ball. Unfortunately for a number of reasons (some of them his own and some of them outside of his control), its NEVER been taken advantage of in DC.
2. His size (duh)
3. He is willing to learn and learns very quickly.
4. He's excellent when he has an o-line that can consistently protect him while he makes a 5-7step drop.
5. He's very quick to escape blitzers and then run for big yards when his receivers arent open. I'm sure his coaches generally want him to only do this as a last resort, but it really is one of his biggest assets. Call more designed running plays and defenders will stay up closer and open things up more in the passing game.
6. He sells play action very well.
7. He's very careful with the ball, but i think he's almost too careful. Alot of this is overcompensation from when he was in college and threw it up to often. Alot of it is not being comfortable in a system and being too afraid to make a mistake, knowing what a short leash he is on. Alot of it is not trusting that his dwarf receviers will win in a fight for the ball.
8. He's showed steady improvement in a number of areas each year in the NFL. (The one i'm most impressed with is not fumbling the ball - id rather him throw 2 INTs 40 yards down the field than take one fumble behind the LOS.)

But steady improvement isnt enough. IMO, Campbells only chance to keep his job here or win one somewhere else is to say [B]"screw it"[/B] and start taking some chances. If he does this (and gets a some help from his receivers), he'll stop making "steady improvement" and take the giant leap he needs to propel him to the next level. At this point, Campbell doesnt have anything to lose. If he doesnt have a GREAT year, he'll never get another starting shot unless the starting QB of whatever team he's on gets hurt.

If Campbell had been drafted by almost any other team, he'd be someones franchise QB and have signed a lucrative multi-year extension by now. He'd be someones franchise QB, and he'd be set for life. Instead, at best (due to circumstances largely out of his control) he's got a 50/50 chance right now of being a career clipboard holder. Through constant change and stupid front office and head coaching moves, the Redskins have taken a player with enormous potential and completely screwed him up. If Campbell somehow manages to succeed this year, i hope he refuses to sign an extension with the skins unless he gets a 6+year contract and the skins extend Zorn as well.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;547177]

But steady improvement isnt enough. [B]IMO, Campbells only chance to keep his job here or win one somewhere else is to say [B]"screw it"[/B] and start taking some chances.[/B] If he does this (and gets a some help from his receivers), he'll stop making "steady improvement" and take the giant leap he needs to propel him to the next level. At this point, Campbell doesnt have anything to lose. If he doesnt have a GREAT year, he'll never get another starting shot unless the starting QB of whatever team he's on gets hurt.

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What if, instead of saying "screw it, I'm taking more chances," he takes more chances as part of his natural growth within the offensive system? That is, I'm quite sure that last offseason Zorn told JC that he had to reduce turnovers. Check, done. Next step in growing into a new offense: taking more shots down field. I'm quite sure that Zorn and JC are working on this now.

It is a process. Remember that it took Hasselbeck 4 years to "get it" and become a Pro Bowler.

I've said it before and I will say it again: if JC just gets his yards per attempt above 7.0 (by taking more shots down field), while keeping his turnovers down, he will be a qb we can win with for a long time.