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[quote=skinsfan_nn;708064]More of Haynesworth bad odor:

This clown is a worthless no good POS, just to be clear!

[url=http://blogs.knoxnews.com/draft/2010/06/clayton_bank_sues_albert_hayne.html]The Bank Draft[/url][/quote]

been a long day at work and saw the second comment on pft about him not paying his loan and it made me chuckle

[quote]Tinbender says:
June 22, 2010 11:42 AM
He was unhappy with the terms of the loan and stayed away from mandatory payments in protest.
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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/22/bank-sues-albert-haynesworth-for-24-million/]Bank sues Albert Haynesworth for $2.4 million | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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[quote=mlmdub130;708170]been a long day at work and saw the second comment on pft about him not paying his loan and it made me chuckle



[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/22/bank-sues-albert-haynesworth-for-24-million/]Bank sues Albert Haynesworth for $2.4 million | ProFootballTalk.com[/url][/quote]

"He was unhappy with the terms of the loan and stayed away from mandatory payments in protest."

Lol, that is pretty good.

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[quote]UPDATE: Andrew Auger of the blog 12th Man Rising writes that a trade sending Albert Haynesworth from the Washington Redskins to the Seattle Seahawks could come soon, [B]with a fourth- or fifth-round pick[/B] potentially being enough to get the deal done.

[/quote]

Translation, please pay back the bonus money. From a pure talent standpoint he should easily command a first or second round pick. However from a locker room standpoint he's worth a 6th or 7th round pick. Split the difference and you end up with a 4th or 5th.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;708178]Translation, please pay back the bonus money. From a pure talent standpoint he should easily command a first or second round pick. However from a locker room standpoint he's worth a 6th or 7th round pick. Split the difference and you end up with a 4th or 5th.[/quote]

sigh

what a waste of talent, the guy really is just a big fat old soakin wet douche bag

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[quote=Dirtbag359;708178]Translation, please pay back the bonus money. From a pure talent standpoint he should easily command a first or second round pick. However from a locker room standpoint he's worth a 6th or 7th round pick. Split the difference and you end up with a 4th or 5th.[/quote]

I'll take it. Just get this clown out of our hair.

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Trade him to Edmonton. Let him enjoy the winter.

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[quote=Lotus;708192]Trade him to Edmonton. Let him enjoy the winter.[/quote]

He'd probably like that. Summer Training Camp only last 2 weeks in Edmonton. Coincidently summer in Canada last 2 weeks. Maybe 2.5 weeks in a good year.

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[quote=Mattyk;708183]I'll take it. Just get this clown out of our hair.[/quote]

No! No more paydays for this douchebag!!

If he pays back the money fine, otherwise let him stay home and rot. I don't want this guy getting another NFL dime in his lifetime.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;708220]Coincidently summer in Canada last 2 weeks. Maybe 2.5 weeks in a good year.[/quote]

I'd take offense, if it weren't so true... :(

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[quote=freddyg12;708036]AH will have the nflpa's support when it comes to the skins trying to get any money back from him. At the same time, I would think that some in the nflpa are not happy w/his behavior, fearing that the owners will look at this as a prime example of how contracts can be such a risk for them w/virtually no means of getting a return on their investment if a player refuses to cooperate.[/quote]


Oh yeah you know the nflpa is not happy with him, he will cost alot of players $$$$ down the line. selfish selfish selfish.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;708225]I'd take offense, if it weren't so true... :([/quote]

Lol, I was hoping you'd end up reading that post.

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Haynesworth releases statement saying he will attend training camp but only if he passes 54% completion rate on Red Dead redemption

[url]http://bit.ly/ahgm4o[/url]

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well we might as well take a 4th. Im sure if we got a third, we'd just have to send it to New Orleans or Philly. I think we could work something out where we get a 4th in 2011 and a conditional pick as high as a 2nd in 2012 based on Haynesworth's performance for the Seahawks.

I wonder if we're not regretting moving him before/during the draft. We certainly could have gotten a 3rd for him (in a very deep draft). next years draft is reportedly the weakest in a long, long time. i'm not particularly excited about any picks there.

to be honest, i'd rather trade haynesworth for a couple players.

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[quote=SmootSmack;708396]Haynesworth releases statement saying he will attend training camp but only if he passes 54% completion rate on Red Dead redemption

[url]http://bit.ly/ahgm4o[/url][/quote]

something may be wrong with the file. it took forever to download and then i got a message saying the fiel was corrupted.

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[quote=SmootSmack;708396]Haynesworth releases statement saying he will attend training camp but only if he passes 54% completion rate on Red Dead redemption

[url]http://bit.ly/ahgm4o[/url][/quote]

I didn't see the red dead part, but that statement looks like it ought to be put on toilet paper, I would just as soon flush it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;708396]Haynesworth releases statement saying he will attend training camp but only if he passes 54% completion rate on Red Dead redemption

[URL]http://bit.ly/ahgm4o[/URL][/quote]

:laughing2

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Haynesworth speaks:

Posted at 11:34 AM ET, 06/23/2010
Albert Haynesworth statement: 'I have always planned to attend training camp'

Defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth released a statement today, making clear his intentions to participate in the Redskins training camp, which begins July 29. His statement read:

"Despite my current differences with the Redskins, I have always planned to attend training camp and honor my contract. As I have previously said, I am continuing to prepare for the season individually and will report on time, in shape and ready to play football. Any issues I have with the club I will discuss privately and therefore do not plan to make any further public comments about this matter."

Upset with the team's change in defensive philosophies and his presumed role in a 3-4 scheme, Haynesworth missed all but one day of the team's offseason conditioning programs, skipped the voluntary organized team activities and minicamp and last week opted against participating in the team's mandatory minicamp. The team fined him $10,000 for skipping the mandatory minicamp.

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Hadn't he made a similar declaration about the mandatory minicamp? So why would this statement carry any weight?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;708410]Hadn't he made a similar declaration about the mandatory minicamp? So why would this statement carry any weight?[/quote]

The only thing carrying weight is Haynesworth himself

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Of course he's going to show to camp, the greedy F'er doesn't want to lose out on all that $$. Hopefully he'll be traded by then. Get him the F outta here.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;707088]
We all know the scenario. Player unhappy, player sits out voluntary OTA's, player sits out mini camp. Player demands trade.

Now the holdout is affecting the players back account. Player shows up on day 5, kisses and makes up with coach. Team waives fines. Player joins team mates on field, apoligizes and swears allegance to team.

Seen it a hundred times in the past (Ochocinco comes immediatley to mind). The player will continue to kick and scream for a trade, calling out the origanization. And at this point what has it cost the player? NOTHING. He is still getting paid, he has not been fined, he is not facing any discipline. He has lost nothing.

Then, when he skips training camp days and NOW it starts costing HIM money, [b]I assure you he will have a change of heart.[/b]

So I am willing to bet that AH will kick and scream all the way up until he starts getting fined. Then he will have an "epiphany" and report to camp. Just sit back and watch.[/quote]
Hate to say "I told you so". But now that AH has stated that he will be at camp, its just a matter of time before the rest pans out.

About how he will apologize to the fans and his team mates, and will become Shannahans new "favorite son", he will adapt and "embrace" his new role yada yada yada.

Until a player puts his money where his mouth is and buys out his contract, trade demands are just hot air.

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Well then why did you waste the time to do just that..? Kinda easy to be a sorry Wednesday afternoon QB after a tough loss.

Especially when it means absolutely nothing. This is Fat Al blowing more hot smoke (buying time) don't fool yourself or be so foolish.

I'm sure they want his Fat ass outta there just as bad as he wants out. At the right price=give the money back.


[quote=sandtrapjack;708422][B]Hate to say "I told you so"[/B]. But now that AH has stated that he will be at camp, its just a matter of time before the rest pans out.

About how he will apologize to the fans and his team mates, and will become Shannahans new "favorite son", he will adapt and "embrace" his new role yada yada yada.

Until a player puts his money where his mouth is and buys out his contract, trade demands are just hot air.[/quote]

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Really, how many times have disgruntled players gotten their way? I would hope most of us had assumed he'd show sooner or later unless another foolish team offered up a decent trade offer.

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AH and his team placed a bett that the Skins would fold. Shanny and Bruce called his bluff and he lost. It's better to lose 10k rather than 21mil which would be at stake.

This is a life lesson for AH and I'm glad this time we have a strong enough coaching/front office staff that didn't panic and didn't immediatly give in to his demands.

I really hope the coaching staff and players give him hell in training camp. It's Boot Camp now ya Fat Bitch!!

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[quote=SmootSmack;708413]The only thing carrying weight is Haynesworth himself[/quote]

You are on a roll today SS

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[quote=sandtrapjack;708422]Hate to say "I told you so". But now that AH has stated that he will be at camp, its just a matter of time before the rest pans out.

About how he will apologize to the fans and his team mates, and will become Shannahans new "favorite son", he will adapt and "embrace" his new role yada yada yada.

Until a player puts his money where his mouth is and buys out his contract, trade demands are just hot air.[/quote]

Well i can only hope your scenario is right. This D is alot better with a committed albert haynesworth. he is all about money. if he doesnt show up to TC he starts to open up a can of worms and helps the skins build their case. He will lose significant money if he skips the entire TC.

but let me play the i told you so game to. haynesworth will be limited or not participating at all in drills and workouts. he will show up, say im here, then do nothing.

i also believe Haynesworth will strain his buttcheck the second he is on the skins grounds and considered doing team activities. if not his buttcheck for symbolic reasons, then his hammy.

i hope your right jack.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;708430]AH and his team placed a bett that the Skins would fold. Shanny and Bruce called his bluff and he lost. It's better to lose 10k rather than 21mil which would be at stake.

This is a life lesson for AH and I'm glad this time we have a strong enough coaching/front office staff that didn't panic and didn't immediatly give in to his demands.

I really hope the coaching staff and players give him hell in training camp. It's Boot Camp now ya Fat Bitch!![/quote]

i concur. AH and his agent took a 32 mil dolar gamble. if they are right, they get 32 mil for 13 months then get to sign a new 5 yr 50 mil contract with a new team. If they are wrong, he gets roughly 42 mil in guaranteed money plus salary for 4 seasons.

if this was vinny before the draft, he would have traded AH and his 32 mil for a 3rd rounder. if this was vinny after teh first mandatory was missed, he would have been so flustered and consumed with not knowing what to do with haynesworth that he couldnt focus time and energy towards other team needs like making the brown trade.

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I'm thinking that he'll be out of here prior to the start of training camp. I just can't envision this management team wanting him anywhere near Redskins Park.

I'm sure the Redskins want to find a way to recoup some of the bonus money they paid him and they just might depending on whether or not they can work with another team and AH to structure something that works for all parties. For example, the Skins might take minimal compensation for AH if another team agrees with AH to redo his contract, pay him a $5M signing bonus, and give him a raise. Then, he could pay back half of the $21M bonus without actually losing anything.

But I'm not ruling out the possibility that AH may still be on the roster and in attendance at training camp. If the Skins can't find a way to get back at least a significant portion of that bonus money, they just might put up with having him on the team. After all, the man can play football when he wants to.

But kiss and make up? Nah. That ain't happening. It'll be one of those hate/hate business relationships between Shanahan and AH.

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Guys I traveled a month or two in to the future to attend Skins training camp and took a picture of Albert on the first day. Looks like he's in much better shape then last year.
[IMG]http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/galleries/172/172560/display_image_GYI0058501405.jpg[/IMG]

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Must be a scrap of food on the ground there somewhere

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Nah those where just roachs from under the stadium a little snack (No, not the smokin kind) he broke his ass while eating the damn things. The strangest thing happened they had to cart him off, I though he choked to death on one of the damn things or somethin.

Next thing you know here comes Fat Al back on the sidelines, like he died went to hell came back and landed his fat ass right in the middle of FedEx Stadium. Modern medicine, miracle I tell ya.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;708529]Guys I traveled a month or two in to the future to attend Skins training camp and took a picture of Albert on the first day. Looks like he's in much better shape then last year.
[IMG]http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/galleries/172/172560/display_image_GYI0058501405.jpg[/IMG][/quote]
Someone dropped a Happy Meal.

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LMAO> so true. Definately just found some food on the ground.

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Just to play devil's advocate:

How would today's hyper fan have treated Riggo the year he sat out? He would have been villan #1 on our charts....By all accounts Joe Gibbs was very close to trading him that year.

What happens if Hanesworth attends training camp and anchors a flat out nasty D and we win more games than expected? If he reports to camp there is not a small chance (20%...30% maybe?) that he actually likes what is going on at The Park and both sides mend the fence.

Not saying it is going to happen, but you never know. I think we are fine to go on with out him, however if he does show up, play, and keep his mouth shut then I think I will really be impressed with Shanny for brining Haynesworth to heel, much the way Gibbs did with Riggo.

Now for my thoughts - I think the FO has done a great job getting the roster ready to move on with or without Haynes worth (mouch more likly without). Wow what a change.

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Just saw this on NFL .com
Disgruntled Haynesworth says he'll attend Redskins' training camp



[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d818cc3da&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Disgruntled Haynesworth says he'll attend Redskins' training camp[/url]

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Ole boy.....:doh:

Haynesworth's lawsuits keep piling up

Posted by Mike Florio on June 24, 2010 7:17 AM ET
Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth has found himself on the wrong side of more than a few lawsuits. Most recently, a bank sued him for failing to make payments on a $2.38 million loan he took out in June 2009 -- only three months after signing a deal with a practical value of four years, $48 million. He also faces a lawsuit from a man seriously injured in an accident allegedly caused by Haynesworth, who allegedly was driving too fast. He's also battling with his ex-wife over health insurance and child support.

Then there's the $100 million paternity suit filed by an exotic dancer in New York.

A reader has tipped us off to another lawsuit involving Haynesworth. It possibly arises out of a group known as Crestview Townhomes, LLC. A pending lawsuit that had a court hearing on Wednesday includes Haynesworth and Bryan Puckett, two members of the Crestview Townhomes organization, and CP Construction, LLC. The plaintiff in the case is a company known as Dale and Associates, a Nashville engineering firm.

There's another lawsuit filed only against Haynesworth by Dale and Associates, which also went to court on Wednesday.

We've yet to track down any details regarding these cases. But we've got a feeling that the claims generally arise from Haynesworth and/or the other defendants owing money, and not paying the money.

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[quote=Kope;708563]Just to play devil's advocate:

How would today's hyper fan have treated Riggo the year he sat out? He would have been villan #1 on our charts....By all accounts Joe Gibbs was very close to trading him that year.

What happens if Hanesworth attends training camp and anchors a flat out nasty D and we win more games than expected? If he reports to camp there is not a small chance (20%...30% maybe?) that he actually likes what is going on at The Park and both sides mend the fence.

Not saying it is going to happen, but you never know. I think we are fine to go on with out him, however if he does show up, play, and keep his mouth shut then I think I will really be impressed with Shanny for brining Haynesworth to heel, much the way Gibbs did with Riggo.

Now for my thoughts - I think the FO has done a great job getting the roster ready to move on with or without Haynes worth (mouch more likly without). Wow what a change.[/quote]

The f/o did a masterful job deflecting the media's constant reference to the issue. The focus was aimed at those who were here as opposed to anyone who was not. It's almost time for this thing to play itself out and see what the end is going to be. Speculation has just about run it's course.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;708636]Ole boy.....:doh:

Haynesworth's lawsuits keep piling up

Posted by Mike Florio on June 24, 2010 7:17 AM ET
Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth has found himself on the wrong side of more than a few lawsuits. Most recently, a bank sued him for failing to make payments on a $2.38 million loan he took out in June 2009 -- only three months after signing a deal with a practical value of four years, $48 million. He also faces a lawsuit from a man seriously injured in an accident allegedly caused by Haynesworth, who allegedly was driving too fast. He's also battling with his ex-wife over health insurance and child support.

Then there's the $100 million paternity suit filed by an exotic dancer in New York.

A reader has tipped us off to another lawsuit involving Haynesworth. It possibly arises out of a group known as Crestview Townhomes, LLC. A pending lawsuit that had a court hearing on Wednesday includes Haynesworth and Bryan Puckett, two members of the Crestview Townhomes organization, and CP Construction, LLC. The plaintiff in the case is a company known as Dale and Associates, a Nashville engineering firm.

There's another lawsuit filed only against Haynesworth by Dale and Associates, which also went to court on Wednesday.

We've yet to track down any details regarding these cases. But we've got a feeling that the claims generally arise from Haynesworth and/or the other defendants owing money, and not paying the money.[/quote]

Jeez...what a cancer. Try to recoup that money and/or trade this guy as quickly as possible. This is just a bad guy...I don't care if some of the accusations are unfounded and/or if people are just trying to take advantage. There's a reason you don't hear stuff like this about the more stand-up players in the league.

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See this whole situation with Fat Al is the main reason i say NFL contracts should be more incentive based than guaranteed based. Make these Jamarcus Russell's & Haynesworth's work for it more than they do If that was the case half of these problems, gimmicks & distractions wouldn't happen year around

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;708737]See this whole situation with Fat Al is the main reason i say NFL contracts should be more incentive based than guaranteed based. Make these Jamarcus Russell's & Haynesworth's work for it more than they do If that was the case half of these problems, gimmicks & distractions wouldn't happen year around[/quote]


I believe and I may be wrong but NFL contracts out of all the professional sports has the least amount of GTD money.

Plus, I could care less about the $$$ it was not my $$$ to start with what pisses me off is he let this team down, he easily could be in here today with a positive attitude making our team better but he just cares about himself.