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CRedskinsRule 08-09-2010 02:20 PM

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It's frustrating that apparently neither Thomas nor Kelly are making the strides, although Thomas is listed first as a ST returner, which I think he would be very good at. Ah well, bring on the new season!

mredskins 08-09-2010 02:40 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;718601]It's frustrating that apparently neither Thomas nor Kelly are making the strides, although Thomas is listed first as a ST returner, which I think he would be very good at. Ah well, bring on the new season![/quote]


My co-worker (not the crazy one) where just talking about how WR has easily become our weakest position with the bad news about DT and MK's development.

Is there any way to make a play on Vincent Jackson?

SBXVII 08-09-2010 02:42 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;718591]Thomas and Kelly both on the 3rd team. So far, So fail[/quote]

This is the first thing I noticed. Wow. Moss and Galloway, Roydell and Armstrong, Then Thomas and Kelly?.... heck only T. Austin is behind them.

I guess it speaks volumes or atleast it should to those who keep saying don't worry Thomas and Kelly are going to be beasts.

Maybe we should just stick with Roydell (who was cut a year ago) and Armstrong being a beast this yr.

Edit: I forgot about Shay Hodge.

MTK 08-09-2010 02:48 PM

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[quote=Angry;718592]Just like AH is our backup nosetackle (like that's gonna happen). [B]Don't get your panties all in a bunch over an unofficial depth chart during the preseason.[/B] The 2nd and 3rd stringers get more reps in the preseason so look at it as addition work.[/quote]

Exactly

Chico23231 08-09-2010 02:55 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;718601]It's frustrating that apparently neither Thomas nor Kelly are making the strides, although Thomas is listed first as a ST returner, which I think he would be very good at. Ah well, bring on the new season![/quote]

Exactly, I expected a little more at this point. I know this is just the first draft, but this jumped out immediately. AH 2nd team, Moore starting safety, Carter starting at OLB...not really surprising IMO. I know its motivation for the guys...but I expected at least 2nd team Thomas. Kelly at this point is in serious, serious danger of being cut IMO. I really like Thomas being penciled in at returner. We will see how it shakes out, but IDEALLY we want Thomas as a starter as WR.

firstdown 08-09-2010 02:57 PM

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[quote=Lotus;718435]There have been a few reports of snapping problems in camp, such as this one:

LS Nick Sundberg. He had another low snap on a field goal attempt in which Josh Bidwell made a good save. Graham Gano still made the kick, but I’ve seen too many of his snaps hit turf before hands.

[URL="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Studs-and-Duds-8710-100198384.html"]Studs and Duds 8/7/10 | Washington Examiner[/URL][/quote]

What happened to the Red Snapper did we let him go or did he retire?

ArtMonkDrillz 08-09-2010 03:01 PM

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[quote=firstdown;718611]What happened to the Red Snapper did we let him go or did he retire?[/quote]I believe he basically worked on one year contracts for us in the past, and this year they didn't re-sign him. I think they wanted someone who could contribute a little more to the team than just long snapping.

I miss him already and I want him back with the team. In the meantime: [url=http://www.thesportstruth.com/2006/10/ethan-albright-worst-player-in-the-nfl-strikes-back.html]Ethan Albright, Worst Player in the NFL, Strikes Back - The Sports Truth[/url]

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-09-2010 03:16 PM

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[quote=firstdown;718611]What happened to the Red Snapper did we let him go or did he retire?[/quote]

He is a free agent. His contract was up and he did not recieve a new one. As noted before he is still out there and if the new guy contiunues along the road of suck, the Red Snapper may get a phone call.

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-09-2010 03:21 PM

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We have not even played a preseason game. I am not to worried about the depth chart at this point. Let's wait and see what happens over the next 28 days before we really dissect everything when it comes to the roster.

I have stated ever since the VJ trade talks, I am behind the caoch and the FO all the way. Whatever they decide to do to make sure we have the best 53 players on the Skins come Sept 12 I am behind. If it doesnt include Thomas or Kelly, well then they must not have had what it takes. These guys have 2 years of tape and plenty of Offseason work under MS. They either impress or hit the road.

skinsfaninok 08-09-2010 03:22 PM

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If DT AND MK are really behind Joey Galloway, how much would you give up for Vincent Jackson?

Monksdown 08-09-2010 03:24 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;718621]If DT AND MK are really behind Joey Galloway, how much would you give up for Vincent Jackson?[/quote]


Whatever your answer, reduce it by 25% due to the league's penalties.

skinsfaninok 08-09-2010 03:39 PM

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I'm really starting to worry about our WRs. I hope cooley and Davis play alot at the same time, looks like were going to new them alot this yr

ArtMonkDrillz 08-09-2010 03:48 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;718625]I'm really starting to worry about our WRs. I hope cooley and Davis play alot at the same time, looks like were going to new them alot this yr[/quote]This doesn't help: [url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/malcolm-kelly-could-miss-frida.html?wprss=redskinsinsider]Redskins Insider - Malcolm Kelly could miss Friday's game[/url]

Can Snyder rehire Vinny just so we can fire him again?

BigHairedAristocrat 08-09-2010 04:06 PM

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what surprised me the most was that galloway and wade werent on the depth chart at all, even though they've supposedly been getting most of the reps with the 1st team (along with tana).

firstdown 08-09-2010 05:00 PM

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;718616]He is a free agent. His contract was up and he did not recieve a new one. As noted before he is still out there and if the new guy contiunues along the road of suck, the Red Snapper may get a phone call.[/quote]

Not sure why he was not signed. That is a thank less job until you screw up and then everyone who never knew you to start with hates you. I don't mind giving up a roster spot to know some who will touch the ball 6 to 10 times a game gets the job done.

hooskins 08-09-2010 05:11 PM

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I think this could be a positive, as DT and MK could get a lot of playing time in preseason. MS may have purposely lowered their positions as a final warning and to create an opportunity to see them play it out. We will see how they do.

Or they could just suck and get cut.

MTK 08-09-2010 05:22 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;718630]what surprised me the most was that galloway and wade werent on the depth chart at all, even though they've supposedly been getting most of the reps with the 1st team (along with tana).[/quote]

Galloway is there, first name at the top

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/team/depthChart.jsp]Depth Chart - Washington Redskins[/url]

I don't see Wade

Defensewins 08-09-2010 05:23 PM

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[quote=firstdown;718640]Not sure why he was not signed. That is a thank less job until you screw up and then everyone who never knew you to start with hates you. I don't mind giving up a roster spot to know some who will touch the ball 6 to 10 times a game gets the job done.[/quote]

If we developed a young guy that can be a great long snapper and also in a pinch fill in at center or guard, would create more depth. Something we lacked for the last 10 years.
I don't know if Red Snapper could play on the o-line or not?

On a separate note:
3rd string Eric Cook the rookie center broke his right wrist during the final week of training camp in 2007 (New Mexico), and taught himself to snap with his left hand the rest of the season when he played center. Tough guy.

2nd string Center Kory Lichtensteiger: was named a finalist for the Rimington Trophy (nation’s best center) and a first-team all-conference choice as a senior. Posted the highest blocking consistency (85.6 percent) of any center in the country during his time at Bowling Green State according to NFLDraftScout.com.
You throw in Edwin Williams and it looks like we have some decent talent on the bench....for once.

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-09-2010 06:10 PM

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[quote=firstdown;718640]Not sure why he was not signed. That is a thank less job until you screw up and then everyone who never knew you to start with hates you. I don't mind giving up a roster spot to know some who will touch the ball 6 to 10 times a game gets the job done.[/quote]

I am with you. I don't know why you would want to replace Big Red till he decided to reitre. When you have a guy that solid, why mess with it.

I think he still may be back by the time the season starts espicially if the young guy continues to struggle. Smoot had eluded to this earlier in this post.

skinsfaninok 08-09-2010 09:58 PM

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good read...

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp10/columns/story?columnist=schefter_adam&id=5450534]Jim Haslett, the Redskins' overlooked defensive coordinator, deserves kudos - ESPN[/url]

Hog1 08-09-2010 10:22 PM

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NIce find Skinsfan......good read.

skinsfaninok 08-09-2010 10:44 PM

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I'm always looking for stuff to read when it comes to our skins.. Living in OK, everything is Dallas or KC.. I like was Shef is saying about Haslett, my father-in-law (PLOWBOYS FAN) is insisting that Haslett will let us down. I doubt that will happen.

Hog1 08-09-2010 10:58 PM

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I hear you. I spent 10 years in Houston.
EVERY SINGLE player interview I have seen (and that is many) regarding the Defense says....Haslett has this group believin' and fired up in an ATTACKING Defense......cannot wait!
With all due respect...WTF does Father in law know? He's a DAMN Boys fan.
HTTR

skinsfaninok 08-09-2010 11:10 PM

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^ lol exactly! I tell him to worry about his " SB favorite " team and all of their injuries so far in camp.

30gut 08-10-2010 09:13 AM

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“We’re throwing a lot at him,” offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan said. “He’ll have a couple good days and a couple bad days. That’s what you expect from any quarterback in camp, but especially one that’s new. You want him to make some of these mistakes so he can learn from them.”
[url]http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/reds...actice-mon-89/[/url]

SmootSmack 08-10-2010 10:37 AM

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Redskins running some Wildcat with Banks at QB today

My gut says Sundberg doesn't last pass the first preseason game

Beck could surpass Grossman if both keep playing the way they have been recently. Though I still think Grossman holds on to the back up job when all is said and done

Monkeydad 08-10-2010 10:49 AM

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That could work...if Banks can hold onto the ball. He seems like the type of player who tries to get that extra yard but forgets to hold onto the ball. Saw him put it down a few times...but he's blazing fast and probably tough to tackle because of his tiny size.

Banks and Austin are getting tested hard though. Another thing I noticed, in the return drills, they were sending everyone at the two rookies, but not the vets. The rookies were getting hit and tackled, balls stripped, but Moss/Thomas/Hall/Buchanon/Tryon were just catching the ball and when they approached a tackler...they both just stopped. No contact. Banks and Austin...send all 11 after them!



I don't think Beck will pass Grossman though. Rex made some really nice passes...and some INTs this weekend...but like Todd Collins, I think he gets the backup job because he knows the offensive playbook better.

SmootSmack 08-10-2010 12:05 PM

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Jammal Brown will not play on Friday

Longtimefan 08-10-2010 01:26 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;718844]Jammal Brown will not play on Friday[/quote]

Let's hope these residual effects he's experiencing from a surgery that kept him out of football all last year will not be something of an ongoing concern.

GMScud 08-10-2010 01:46 PM

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[quote=Longtimefan;718863]Let's hope these residual effects he's experiencing from a surgery that kept him out of football all last year will not be something of an ongoing concern.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I heard they recently MRI'd his hip/hernia area and found no irregularities. Just soreness that comes from the rigors of training camp/recovering from surgery.

The first preseason game doesn't mean much for a guy like him. He's entrenched as a starting tackle and is a seasoned vet. No need to risk him out there this early. I like the decision to hold him back.

tryfuhl 08-10-2010 01:53 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;718844]Jammal Brown will not play on Friday[/quote]

nor will Kelly

Jammal to get an injection in his hip

tryfuhl 08-10-2010 01:59 PM

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[quote=30gut;718755]“We’re throwing a lot at him,” offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan said. “He’ll have a couple good days and a couple bad days. That’s what you expect from any quarterback in camp, but especially one that’s new. You want him to make some of these mistakes so he can learn from them.”
[url]http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/reds...actice-mon-89/[/url][/quote]

owned by truncation

KLHJ2 08-10-2010 02:01 PM

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HA! Nice one.

tryfuhl 08-10-2010 02:07 PM

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[url=http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2010/08/09/notes-quotes-and-observations-from-practice-mon-89/]Notes, quotes and observations from practice (Mon, 8/9) - Redskins Journal[/url]

think that's what he was going for

Lotus 08-10-2010 02:15 PM

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Matt Mosley's "Camp Confidential":
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast]NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

geichidanman 08-10-2010 02:33 PM

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SmootSmack...give us the lowdown. Will the skins make a move at WR in the next week or so and use some of our expendable talent to make the deal happen?

SmootSmack 08-10-2010 02:40 PM

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[quote=geichidanman;718888]SmootSmack...give us the lowdown. Will the skins make a move at WR in the next week or so and use some of our expendable talent to make the deal happen?[/quote]

I haven't heard anything. I think at this point the receivers that will end up on our final roster are already here

NYCskinfan82 08-10-2010 02:45 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;718705]I'm always looking for stuff to read when it comes to our skins.. Living in OK, everything is Dallas or KC.. I like was Shef is saying about Haslett, my father-[B]in-law [/B](PLOWBOYS FAN) is insisting that Haslett will let us down. I doubt that will happen.[/quote]

When they are cowgurl fans they are called the out-law never the in-law. LOL


HTTR.

mredskins 08-10-2010 02:49 PM

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Phil Simms giving the love!

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/danpatrick/2010/08/09/100809.phil-simms-on-surprise-teams/index.html]DP Show: Simms on surprise NFL teams - Video - SI.com[/url]

Dirtbag59 08-10-2010 03:29 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/10/jeremy-maclin-and-desean-jackson-get-into-spat/]Jeremy Maclin and DeSean Jackson get into spat | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

Hmmm, if only they had a QB that was capable of diffusing the situation.


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