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What's everyones love for j brown. Don't get it..

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[quote=mooby;816515]I'd prefer resigning J. Brown over Blades but it's cool.[/quote]

I'd prefer signing Nnamdi over both.

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Where's Cromartie, Cullen Jenkins, Braylon Edwards, Brian Waters, and Ryan Harris going. Thats what I want to know now that Nnamdi is gone.

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[quote=SkinzWin;816518]I'd prefer signing Nnamdi over both.[/quote]

So you're cool with the prospect of Clint Oldenburg starting in Week 1 against Tuck/Pierre-Paul/Kiwanuka/Umenyiora if he ends his holdout?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;816525]Where's Cromartie, Cullen Jenkins, Braylon Edwards, Brian Waters, and Ryan Harris going. Thats what I want to know now that Nnamdi is gone.[/quote]

:doh: And lets just trade for Peyton Manning so we have a starting quarterback too.

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noteable FAs (tell me if any are off the market or i missed someone):
* = could help the skins
[code]QB volek (he's 35), orton* (requires a trade)
RB Addai, m barber, a bradshaw ($$), r brown (dolphins want him),
green-ellis (RFA, 2nd round), j harrison*, m hart, c williams
FB j kuhn, l mcclain, l vickers, l weaver
WR a bryant, plax*, b edwards*, m floyd, housh, v jackson (FFA),
j jones, d mason, r moss, NYG smith
TE k boss, pope, spach
PK
P sepulveda, koch
OT K barnes, blalock, heyer, brown*, andrews, willis
OG davis, jean-gilles, lutui*, mathis
C o'hara
DE jenkins
DL tapp
DT hovan, p williams
NT hoke*, f evans
LB ayodele, barnett*, burnett*, cooper, lawson*, mcintosh*
morrison, peterson, m peterson, thorton, tulloch*,
CB buchanon*, cromartie, houston*, jennings*, marshall,
rogers
FS pool, whitner*, williams, e wilson, g wilson[/code]


if we can get orton or addai, great - but there's no use tossing big money at skill positions or at guys we don't really need (I'd LOVE witner, but you know, having 3 starting safeties at full price is kind of stupid).

however, if you can get cheap backups like harrison at RB, hoke at NT, lutui as a cheap OG and an LB or two (still like tulloch), that'd be ideal and pretty cheap.
if we resign buchanon, rocky, and brown I'd be down with that, or swap buchanon for houston or jennings

I'm pretty sure they're letting mcintosh walk though, so bringing in a quality ILB is sort of important. FA LBs of reasonable quality are usually pretty cheap though, we just need to get a body or two from the big pool of average/decent that's available.

outside of addai, i don't think there's anyone outside of the afforable/cheap range... last i heard plax was offered 3/5per year (6mill min, up to 10mill w/ incentives, 2 year deal with a team option), which would be a bargain if he can produce his average statline.

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I think we're fine at RB, Helu is my personal candidate for breakout Redskin of the year, provided he stays healthy of course, and Rocky is definitely out of place in the 3-4 as an ILB, so he's probably gone too. Reports indicate Perry Riley has been promoted to first team ILB, and I think he has a shot of doing well. He impressed in limited time last year and we drafted him to play ILB in a 3-4 so we'll see what he's got. And Mike Sellers is a free agent? I never saw any indication he was released, just heard they're moving him to TE though. I think we could still use another guard and we need to sign either Jammal Brown or Ryan Harris to fill the void at RT, but other than that we're set.

Right now our starting defense projects like this:

Bowen - Cofield - Carriker
Orakpo - Fletcher - Riley - Kerrigan
D. Hall - Atogwe - Landry - Wilson, unless they sign another corner.

Only holes we have left to fill are RT, possibly another guard, and maybe Braylon Edwards if they're still interested in him? Doubful on Edwards but you never know.

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my bad, the cbs sportsline FA tracker has a bunch of mistakes, i guess i missed that.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/42464/raiders-offensive-line-gets-huge-addition]Raiders' offensive line gets huge addition - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=mooby;816554]I think we're fine at RB, Helu is my personal candidate for breakout Redskin of the year, provided he stays healthy of course, and Rocky is definitely out of place in the 3-4 as an ILB, so he's probably gone too. Reports indicate Perry Riley has been promoted to first team ILB, and I think he has a shot of doing well. He impressed in limited time last year and we drafted him to play ILB in a 3-4 so we'll see what he's got. And Mike Sellers is a free agent? I never saw any indication he was released, just heard they're moving him to TE though. I think we could still use another guard and we need to sign either Jammal Brown or Ryan Harris to fill the void at RT, but other than that we're set.

Right now our starting defense projects like this:

Bowen - Cofield - Carriker
Orakpo - Fletcher - Riley - Kerrigan
D. Hall - Atogwe - Landry - Wilson, unless they sign another corner.

Only holes we have left to fill are RT, possibly another guard, and maybe Braylon Edwards if they're still interested in him? Doubful on Edwards but you never know.[/quote]

rogers and marshall are the only possible CB starters, and i think we already made our choice there, though we'll probably want a depth guy like buchanon, just in case barnes etc don't work out.
RT = brown, OG = lutui (mainly as depth/competition, the starting OG market is pretty dry right now unless you want a 330 pounder, which isn't mike's style).
at LB you probably want a vet as both competition and failure/injury insurance, cause we saw what happened when we were short OL guys and started pulling them off the street and starting them... ugly. just like harrison or hoke would be purely depth, i think there's still 5-7 more vets coming in that way at vet min to ~2.5mill/year.

the only big signing left might be a modest b edwards deal, but honestly, a loser with 14 other WRs might not be super attractive and donte/gaffney/AA/hankerson will be fine as our #2-5 if that's what we end up with. Though we'll have to keep 6 WRs either way, since donte can only play about 6 games in a year (fragile).

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Roman Harper stays in N.O

Mike Sims Walker to STL

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Looks like Kelly Gregg is going to KC

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[quote=SmootSmack;816754]Looks like Kelly Gregg is going to KC[/quote]

SmootSmack?
Do you know of the most updated rumors of who the skins are considering at this point?

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Specific names? No, nothing new

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[quote=SmootSmack;816765]Specific names? No, nothing new[/quote]

That is not good...how about positions?

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Based off what's happening at camp this may be a three horse race at Qb between Rex, Beck and Clemmons. Beck is over throwing lame duck passes all over the place.

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My biggest worry right now is not having a quality Right Tackle under contract.


When is Henne getting cut by Miami so we can get him in here?

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[quote=Chico23231;816773]My biggest worry right now is not having a quality Right Tackle under contract.


When is Henne getting cut by Miami so we can get him in here?[/quote]

We'll get a RT signed be it Brown or Harris. Henne isn't going anywhere. They wanted to bring in Orton to give him competition, not sit him on the bench. That's mainly why the had a issue with giving him bonus money on top of the draft picks.

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Richard Marshall to Arizona

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We need justin blalock... So frustrating to think we may be tanking the season. For the first time I feel that way.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;816781]We need justin blalock... So frustrating to think we may be tanking the season. For the first time I feel that way.[/quote]

We made how many FA moves....and you mention tanking.....
:spank:

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[quote=SmootSmack;816776]Richard Marshall to Arizona[/quote]

any contract details?

and i still think we need a qb much more than a RT ;)

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[quote=That Guy;816784]any contract details?

and i still think we need a qb much more than a RT ;)[/quote]

1a and 1b IMO, but we sure do. Rex and J. Brown not signed yet is kinda strange. With Miami outta the picture for Orton, wonder where he ends up?

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[quote=diehardskin2982;816781]We need justin blalock... So frustrating to think we may be tanking the season. For the first time I feel that way.[/quote]


I keep hearing that the Redskins have a smart fan base. I"m clearly not seeing it with posts like this.

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Skins sure have been busy for a team trying to tank.

:doh:

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Can we stop the tanking talk? My god that Gets old

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=lc-carpenter_redskins_shanahan072811]Redskins make big moves without big splash - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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Lol agreed

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[quote=That Guy;816784]any contract details?

and i still think we need a qb much more than a RT ;)[/quote]

One year. That's all I know

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[quote=diehardskin2982;816781]We need justin blalock... So frustrating to think we may be tanking the season. For the first time I feel that way.[/quote]

Really??

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Kevin Burnett signs 4 year deal with Fins.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6818378/miami-dolphins-sign-kevin-burnett-4-year-deal-source-says]Miami Dolphins sign Kevin Burnett to 4-year deal, source says - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=That Guy;816581]rogers and marshall are the only possible CB starters, and i think we already made our choice there, though we'll probably want a depth guy like buchanon, just in case barnes etc don't work out.
RT = brown, OG = lutui (mainly as depth/competition, the starting OG market is pretty dry right now unless you want a 330 pounder, which isn't mike's style).
at LB you probably want a vet as both competition and failure/injury insurance, cause we saw what happened when we were short OL guys and started pulling them off the street and starting them... ugly. just like harrison or hoke would be purely depth, i think there's still 5-7 more vets coming in that way at vet min to ~2.5mill/year.

the only big signing left might be a modest b edwards deal, but honestly, a loser with 14 other WRs might not be super attractive and donte/gaffney/AA/hankerson will be fine as our #2-5 if that's what we end up with. Though we'll have to keep 6 WRs either way, since donte can only play about 6 games in a year (fragile).[/quote]

Lutui already signed elsewhere, so he's out of the running. And yeah I could see us getting another cornerback, since both Rogers and Buchanon left and we've only replaced them with Wilson so far. Kevin Barnes should have the opportunity to step up but if he's not ready to be 3rd corner yet we should have some insurance just in case.

As far as LB goes, well we have Riley, Henson, Blades, all guys who can play the middle. I think the FO might be content to just have them since they were all here last year and should equally know the system by now. But then again you might be right, they might want some vet. insurance. As for WR, who knows we might be done. If we are it's no big deal, as we have plenty.

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Colts apparently have a deal with Manning according to Peter King:

"Peter King
RT @JimIrsay: OFFICIAL----WE HAVE A DEAL!!!!!!! ... Manning takes $18/yr, reports @mortreport. Something major changed in the last month."

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[quote=Ruhskins;816869]Colts apparently have a deal with Manning according to Peter King:

"Peter King
RT @JimIrsay: OFFICIAL----WE HAVE A DEAL!!!!!!! ... Manning takes $18/yr, reports @mortreport. Something major changed in the last month."[/quote]

I really like how Manning came out and said he would take less money if it meant the Colts could make more moves. True example of being a team player right there. Then again he's probably content making less money because of how much money he makes through endorsement deals and other means as well. But still, it's a great move by him especially when Irsay was willing to pony up the cash to make him the highest paid player in the NFL.

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Cullen Jenkins to the Eagles

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Cullen to the Eagles. Damn! 2 good players we needed, they got.

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I'm really starting to hate the eagles

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Colts Release 28 year old CB Kelvin Hayden!
[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3201/kelvin-hayden]Kelvin Hayden - Indianapolis Colts - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;816877]Cullen Jenkins to the Eagles[/QUOTE]

Wow Eagles is taking on Redskins' role in free agency.. Seems like they want to win NOW. I wonder how he will fit in with Babin and Cole? Is he going to play as DT, then?

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[quote=GMScud;816811]Really??[/quote]

what good is tanking the season if the teams in your division are sooo much better. We need competitive signs.

Tell me how outside of getting rid of two self inflicted problems are we better. We have two sub-par Qb's who are turnover machines, question marks at every position and we don't know if are draft picks are going to be good or not. What sets us apart talent wise from the Bills?