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[quote=SFREDSKIN;876208]Face it man, he was always a really good cover corner and 9th overall pick, he's playing to his potential just like Alex Smith and making INT's. Oh wait, Alex Smith is on a 1 year contract also. Get over the bitterness over Rogers, I will never get over the bitterness over Hall (despise his Ass). ;)[/quote]

I always thought Carlos was a better CB than D-hall so not sure why you even bring D-hall up. I'm not bitter about Carlos, but I'm glad his sorry ass attitude is gone.

[quote=skinsfan69;876212]That's 100% BS. He got dicked over here by management. Plain and simple.[/quote]


No, no he didn't. Let me share with you some info that another insider brought to the table over the past couple of years in regards to Carlos Rogers. Remember Willie Parker's comment about some of the guys were more concerned with clubbing than they were football? The number one guy at the top of the 3 ring circus was Carlos Rogers himself. Club going all throughout the week, get home at 4am with having to be at practice the following morning. This was not limited to the weekdays either because it was also a issue of him going out on Saturday nights doing the same thing knowing he had a game the next day.

Not only that, he really only had 1 good year since being drafted with the 9th pick back in 2005. He's almost had more INTs in this one year(6), than he's basically had in his six years as a Redskins. (8)

What does that tell you about Carlos Rogers? What does that tell you about the effort he's given to the Redskins? Why didn't he put that type of effort while playing here if he wanted to get paid? Also, why is it the only type of contract he was offered from any other team was a measly ONE year deal worth 4 mil. He talked during the off-season how he was one of the top FA CBs on the market, and yet he couldn't even fetch no more than that? LOL Carlos is playing his ass off because he is broke and wants to get paid. He's had financial problems since he's been in the league and is in need of the big payday.

Don't give me this bullshit that the front office screwed Carlos over. NO, Carlos screwed himself. Even after all the bullshit I've covered on this jackass, the Skins still offered him a multi-year contract, but it wasn't the baller money that Carlos was requesting. You see, he's looking Cromartie type of money, or D-hall type since that's the guy he targeted during the off-season with his rant about being paid.

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Not wanting a probowl CB on your team is a strange argument. Mentioning Cromartie and Hall doesnt help it, both are well over paid for their performance.

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[quote=Chico23231;876356]Not wanting a probowl CB on your team is a strange argument. Mentioning Cromartie and Hall doesnt help it, both are well over paid for their performance.[/quote]

I said I didn't want his sorry ass attitude. I didn't say Cromartie and D-Hall were the gold standards of CB play. I was relating Carlos salary demands in comparison with the others. Also, he had 6 years to play for that second contract and he did basically nothing. Only eight INTs over the course of six years, when he grabs six in only one year on a one year contract. Tells me he wasn't giving it his all here, and was coasting like every other player we paid big money. Also, Carlos got paid top dollar back in 2005 and never earned it either.


He's going to be just like Haynesworth in the fact that once he gets his top dollar contract, he's going back to coasting like he's done his whole career.

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I agree for the most part NC'

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[quote=Dirtbag59;876346]While I agree that generally more offense means more excitement and more viewers it's not always the case. In the case of the NFL opening up the game has worked. In the NBA it has all but failed, as one of the most frequent complaints about the NBA is that no one plays defense.[/quote]

There's not much the NBA does right. Its definitely the worst of the major sports. I think the NFL has it about right at this point. If if gets to where NFL games are 80-75 then I will complain but I dont have any problem with 45-42 games.

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On another note, I was cleaning out the shed today and came across these nuggets.

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Man I'm old. :(

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[quote=GMScud;876248]Just heard on espn980 that Dez Bryant got arrested at a night club in Miami... Not seeing anything else about it, so stay tuned I guess.[/quote]

[url=http://www.wfaa.com/sports/football/cowboys/Cowboys-Dez-Bryant-arrested-in-Miami--137426228.html]Cowboys' Dez Bryant involved in fight at Miami nightclub | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;876364][url=http://www.wfaa.com/sports/football/cowboys/Cowboys-Dez-Bryant-arrested-in-Miami--137426228.html]Cowboys' Dez Bryant involved in fight at Miami nightclub | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth[/url][/quote]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8260f970/article/no-charges-against-cowboys-bryant-after-nightclub-incident?module=HP11_headline_stack]NFL.com news: No charges against Cowboys' Bryant after nightclub incident[/url]

With a mother for a Hoe he sure didn't have a role model, so he is acting up on what he was exposed to as a kid.

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[quote=irish;876341]I dont really know what you are talking about. Manning, Smith & Brady are all QB stars. Flacco isnt quite in their league. All the remaining teams also play good D.

The league had to open things up because fans just werent interested in watching 9-6 games. The NFL is more exciting now than it has ever been and they will never change the rules to go back to the boring old days.[/quote]

Alex Smith is not a QB star.

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[quote=NC_Skins;876131]Anybody but the Patriots. I'm tired of people slobbing on Brady's nuts. It's annoying as hell.[/quote]

Exactly. Didn't know that the pats haven't beaten a team that finished over .500 this year either! Defense wins championships, then it goes down to who has the better offense.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;876371]Alex Smith is not a QB star.[/quote]

He might not be one right now, but he sure is playing like one.

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-chiefs-employees-live-environment-secrecy-intimidation-fear-175257336.html]Report: Chiefs employees live in environment of ‘secrecy, intimidation, and fear’ | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

weird

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[quote=Chico23231;876375][url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-chiefs-employees-live-environment-secrecy-intimidation-fear-175257336.html]Report: Chiefs employees live in environment of ‘secrecy, intimidation, and fear’ | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

weird[/quote]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/46233-anxiety-at-arrowhead-inside-chiefs-organization.html[/url]

Smoot has a thread on this. You should read it. Interesting to say the least.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;876371]Alex Smith is not a QB star.[/quote]

If you look at his career, then you are absolutely right. However if you isolate this past year he is a legitimate Pro Bowl caliber QB. Weather or not he can sustain that type of success remains to be seen but right now he's legit.

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/miss-america-asks-aaron-rodgers-call-her-182121617.html]Miss America asks Aaron Rodgers to call her | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Aaron Rodgers should be tapping that by next weekend. I would.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;876374]He might not be one right now, but he sure is playing like one.[/quote]

Very true and the right analysis.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;876377]If you look at his career, then you are absolutely right. However if you isolate this past year he is a legitimate Pro Bowl caliber QB. Weather or not he can sustain that type of success remains to be seen but right now he's legit.[/quote]

Kind of like Carlos Rogers. Ha!

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[quote=NC_Skins;876379][url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/miss-america-asks-aaron-rodgers-call-her-182121617.html]Miss America asks Aaron Rodgers to call her | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Aaron Rodgers should be tapping that by next weekend. I would.[/quote]

Next weekend? TONIGHT! Discount Double Check! Ba bapa ba bapa baaa....

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Yes......it really sucks to be.......him...

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;876329]Neither one, the skins could do what Cincy did. Could they not? Weren't you one who said Harbaugh was a college coach?[/quote]

YOu said the Skins were going to be the NIners of 2012. That would mean that they kept their maligned QB and coached him up to become a Pro Bowl caliber QB that would lead them to the NFC Championship. I didn't say that; you did. So, I asked which of the two maligned Skins' QBs would be the one to "become the Alex Smith of 2012"?

If you change the subject to be the Bengals, then the best the Skins could do would be to make it as a wildcard and go one and done in the playoffs. But that is not what you implied in your original posting.

If I said that Harbaugh was a college coach - - and I do not recall ever entering a discussion here on that point - - I would be literally correct. He was a college coach in more than one venue. While I never expected him to beas successful as he has been in his first year on the job in SF, I doubt that I ever disparaged his coaching abilities for one simple reason:
[INDENT]I admire what he accomplished in his stops at San Diego State (?) and Stanford.[/INDENT]
For the record, I am happy to see that you do not have either John Beck or Rex Grossman having a season in 2012 akin to the one Alex Smith had in 2011. Sure, it could happen; but the probability is vanishingly small.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;876387]YOu said the Skins were going to be the NIners of 2012. That would mean that they kept their maligned QB and coached him up to become a Pro Bowl caliber QB that would lead them to the NFC Championship. I didn't say that; you did. So, I asked which of the two maligned Skins' QBs would be the one to "become the Alex Smith of 2012"?

If you change the subject to be the Bengals, then the best the Skins could do would be to make it as a wildcard and go one and done in the playoffs. But that is not what you implied in your original posting.

If I said that Harbaugh was a college coach - - and I do not recall ever entering a discussion here on that point - - I would be literally correct. He was a college coach in more than one venue. While I never expected him to beas successful as he has been in his first year on the job in SF, I doubt that I ever disparaged his coaching abilities for one simple reason:
[INDENT]I admire what he accomplished in his stops at San Diego State (?) and Stanford.[/INDENT]
For the record, I am happy to see that you do not have either John Beck or Rex Grossman having a season in 2012 akin to the one Alex Smith had in 2011. Sure, it could happen; but the probability is vanishingly small.[/quote]

Sorry if I misled you, I'm not an English major like you probably are . Everyone and their mother knows that Beck and Grossman will not do what Smith, it has to be a different QB.

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[quote=SkinzWin;876385]Next weekend? TONIGHT! Discount Double Check! Ba bapa ba bapa baaa....[/quote]

:rofl:

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[quote=NC_Skins;876364][url=http://www.wfaa.com/sports/football/cowboys/Cowboys-Dez-Bryant-arrested-in-Miami--137426228.html]Cowboys' Dez Bryant involved in fight at Miami nightclub | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth[/url][/quote]

It's all just a part of the maturation process. Every talented young player gets arrested at some point early in their careers. That's why there's nothing to see here folks, move along. :pimp:

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;876388]Sorry if I misled you, I'm not an English major like you probably are . Everyone and their mother knows that Beck and Grossman will not do what Smith, it has to be a different QB.[/quote]

Actually my undergrad and graduate degrees are in chemistry - - not English.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;876392]Actually my undergrad and graduate degrees are in chemistry - - not English.[/quote]

How much is 1 mole?

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id destroy her

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[quote=Meks;876395]id destroy her[/quote]

Did I miss something?

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[quote=SmootSmack;876398]Did I miss something?[/quote]

Yes. Previous page. Miss America asking Aaron Rodgers to call her.

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[quote=Defensewins;876275]Media darlings Aaron Rogers and Drew Brees lost. Too bad! Ha!
It is a fact the NFL changed the rules of the game over the last 10 to 15 years years to increase passing. Allowing offensive lineman to hold, denying DB's any contact on receivers after 3.5 yards from scrimmage and all of the rules to protect Qb's and defenseless recievers . Now we have Qb's breaking records right and left and the media wants us to to believe it is all that these QB's are better than the ones that played before. Wrong. There are great players on defense in the NFL as well.
Well now there is justice. The teams that have bought into the NFL's attempt to make the NFL a "QB driven league" and are hyper dependent on throwing the ball are getting beat in the playoffs. Balanced teams that run the ball as many times as they pass and commit to running the ball are doing well. Atlanta that gave away most of their draft picks for ONE WR are at home. They thought they were one WR away from the promise land. NO.
NOW we already have media bitches today saying a Ravens vs. 49ers SB would be boring. Well Tom Terrific and the Pats are 0-2 against teams over .500 recors this year.
Ravens can beat them because they have a running game and a good defense. Which New England defense will show next weekend? The one that played a weak Tebow offense or the one that got slammed all season this year? I say the bad one.[/quote]

I believe the Pats are only giving up an average of 18 points a game over the last 9, but I agree with your premise. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a mirror image of the game they played a few years. Ravens style of running the ball, dominating time of possession and playing great D is the perfect kryptonite for the Pats style of play.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;876377]If you look at his career, then you are absolutely right. However if you isolate this past year he is a legitimate Pro Bowl caliber QB. Weather or not he can sustain that type of success remains to be seen but right now he's legit.[/quote]He was like the 8th or 9th best quarterback in the NFC this year. Granted, that may be good enough to make the pro bowl these days.

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[quote=Meks;876395]id destroy her[/quote]

Being modest aren't we? You'd have to HAVE her first in order to have THAT even be a possibility... ;) And you don't have the discount double check.

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/san-francisco-airport-sign-mocks-saints-quotes-jay-194804091.html]San Francisco airport sign mocks Saints, quotes Jay-Z | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

lulz

[quote]You can't blame the sign maker for that, though: Virgin America doesn't fly to New Orleans. [B]The airline does have flights to and from Dallas, so it's only a matter of time before one sign reads "like Tony Romo, this flight has been grounded."[/B][/quote]

:laughing-




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[quote=44Deezel;876403]I believe the Pats are only giving up an average of 18 points a game over the last 9, but I agree with your premise. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a mirror image of the game they played a few years. Ravens style of running the ball, dominating time of possession and playing great D is the perfect kryptonite for the Pats style of play.[/quote]


Denver's O and Bmore's O are pretty much on the same level. I almost take Tebow over Flacco at this point. The Pats get it done, you know Ed Reed is hurting as well. Bmore's biggest problem is their O-line, they have been pretty awful of late.

Also to compare the 09 Pats (the Team Bmore beat in playoffs) to 11 Pats is waste of time especially on offense. Now they have the two big TE's, A better Welker, and a health Brady (09 just coming back from knee surgery).

Tom knows his time is coming to a end he is not going to let this opportunity to add another ring to his finger slip away. I will be shocked if B-more wins this game. Plus something tells me Dark Hoody can come up with a game plan on D to at least hold B-more to less points then Tom's O.

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[quote=NC_Skins;876354]I always thought Carlos was a better CB than D-hall so not sure why you even bring D-hall up. I'm not bitter about Carlos, but I'm glad his sorry ass attitude is gone.




No, no he didn't. Let me share with you some info that another insider brought to the table over the past couple of years in regards to Carlos Rogers. Remember Willie Parker's comment about some of the guys were more concerned with clubbing than they were football? The number one guy at the top of the 3 ring circus was Carlos Rogers himself. Club going all throughout the week, get home at 4am with having to be at practice the following morning. This was not limited to the weekdays either because it was also a issue of him going out on Saturday nights doing the same thing knowing he had a game the next day.

Not only that, he really only had 1 good year since being drafted with the 9th pick back in 2005. He's almost had more INTs in this one year(6), than he's basically had in his six years as a Redskins. (8)

What does that tell you about Carlos Rogers? What does that tell you about the effort he's given to the Redskins? Why didn't he put that type of effort while playing here if he wanted to get paid? Also, why is it the only type of contract he was offered from any other team was a measly ONE year deal worth 4 mil. He talked during the off-season how he was one of the top FA CBs on the market, and yet he couldn't even fetch no more than that? LOL Carlos is playing his ass off because he is broke and wants to get paid. He's had financial problems since he's been in the league and is in need of the big payday.

Don't give me this bullshit that the front office screwed Carlos over. NO, Carlos screwed himself. Even after all the bullshit I've covered on this jackass, the Skins still offered him a multi-year contract, but it wasn't the baller money that Carlos was requesting. You see, he's looking Cromartie type of money, or D-hall type since that's the guy he targeted during the off-season with his rant about being paid.[/quote]

How long was Willie Parker here??? Sorry, I'm not putting any stock into what he says. But my point all along with Rogers was this..time and time again the Skins fo brings in players that aren't as good as him. They're getting overpaid. Adam Arch, the worlds highest paid punt protector. And DHall who can't cover or tackle. Fat Albert. I can see why he gave up. To me there's blame on both sides.

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[quote=skinsfan69;876486]How long was Willie Parker here??? Sorry, I'm not putting any stock into what he says. But my point all along with Rogers was this..time and time again the Skins fo brings in players that aren't as good as him. They're getting overpaid. Adam Arch, the worlds highest paid punt protector. And DHall who can't cover or tackle. Fat Albert. I can see why he gave up. To me there's blame on both sides.[/quote]

The current FO didn't bring in those guys so that makes it irrelevant to what happened previously. SO he's mad that the current FO is smarter than the previous ones that handed out fat contracts to guys who didn't perform? Sounds like personal problem. Had he played his ass off the 6 years he was here, he would have gotten paid big time from us or somebody else no doubt. He halfed assed it like the rest of the guys on the squad and he got paid accordingly to. (see his 1 year deal for proof) You don't see Carlos mad that he didn't earn that lofty draft spot or big time coin he got paid either.

Also, who cares how long Willie Parker was here? It didn't take him long to realize what some of the Skins players were all about. He's not the first to say that about the previous teams either. Good news, times are a changing though.

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F Carlos Rogers. I've met few athletes who feel more entitled than he does.

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[quote=SmootSmack;876493]F Carlos Rogers. I've met few athletes who feel more entitled than he does.[/quote]Amazing, I don't think I've ever seen you post anything like this!!! So you're saying Carlos would fit right in on the Wizards?

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[quote=SmootSmack;876493]F Carlos Rogers. I've met few athletes who feel more entitled than he does.[/quote]

Stop beating around the bush and tell us what you really think.

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[quote=diehard;876393]How much is 1 mole?[/quote]

Depends on a mole of what...

1 mole of gold as of this morning's price for gold is worth $10, 476

1 mole of water - - even overpriced spring water from some mountain in the Alps - - is only worth about a nickel.

1 mole in my backyard when my cat is out there is not worth much at all...

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;876499]Amazing, I don't think I've ever seen you post anything like this!!! [B]So you're saying Carlos would fit right in on the Wizards?[/B][/quote]

Bravo!!