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I wonder if Schneed knows McShay, fellow Richmond Spider. He's not quite the arrogant ass he's made out to be but he has the misfortune of being compared to Kiper, one of the profession'a most genuine people. I'm curious to see what McShays long term prospects are. Because his staunchest supporters are no longer in positions of power.

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[quote=SmootSmack;885161]I wonder if Schneed knows McShay, fellow Richmond Spider. He's not quite the arrogant ass he's made out to be but he has the misfortune of being compared to Kiper, one of the profession'a most genuine people. I'm curious to see what McShays long term prospects are. Because his staunchest supporters are no longer in positions of power.[/quote]

McShay will be replaced by Mel Kiper's hair. That thing should have its own Twitter account.

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[quote=Ruhskins;885165]McShay will be replaced by Mel Kiper's hair. That thing should have its own Twitter account.[/quote]

[IMG]http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/04/28/mel_kiper_mcshay_trade_hair_phixr.png[/IMG]

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[quote=Ruhskins;885165]McShay will be replaced by Mel Kiper's hair. That thing should have its own Twitter account.[/quote]

I guess someone already thought of this idea...

[url]https://twitter.com/#!/melkipershair[/url]

"99% gel, 1% Mel" LOL!!! Hilarious!

:rofl:

And yes I am quoting myself :blah:

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[quote=SBXVII;885120]I'm telling you, over the weekend I watched some film of him and came away impressed. He's gangly when he runs but otherwise he throws well and gets the yardage with his feet if need be.

I'd get PM, Weeden, and Osweiler. Osweiler is supposedly a 4-5th round pick..... yeah right.

Take PM.
Get some (2) FA WR's.
Trade back in the draft.
Take Weeden (maturity-age) late 1st.
Take Osweiler second round.

This way we have PM if healthy and two, not one, but two healthy young QB's to develope and hope one pans out if not both.[/quote]

I think we should pick one and use that late 1st or 2nd to help out Manning. We could always use next years 1 or 2 on a young guy also.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;885107]Stanton is a poor mans Chad Henne.[/quote]

Yikes! Makes for one broke a$$ sumbitch lol!!

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[QUOTE=SBXVII;885120]I'm telling you, over the weekend I watched some film of him and came away impressed. He's gangly when he runs but otherwise he throws well and gets the yardage with his feet if need be.



I'd get PM, Weeden, and Osweiler. Osweiler is supposedly a 4-5th round pick..... yeah right.



Take PM.

Get some (2) FA WR's.

Trade back in the draft.

Take Weeden (maturity-age) late 1st.

Take Osweiler second round.



This way we have PM if healthy and two, not one, but two healthy young QB's to develope and hope one pans out if not both.[/QUOTE]

Weeden is not a young QB. That's the main knock on him.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;885125]SO was the whole football team. They won 2 games. They still are.[/QUOTE]

I would not categorize Carolina as awful. A lot of injuries to their D killed them. With Beason an company returning and a defensive heavy off-season they be in the playoff hunt no problem.

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If we do sign Peyton Manning what would be the point of drafting a 29 year old Weeden? Peyton plays 3 seasons and then Weeden makes his first start at age 32? That's just stupid anyway you slice it. Especially if we draft him 1st round. If Shanny thinks Weeden is the guy (and I hope he doesn't) he better be starting day one.

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[quote=SmootSmack;885161]I wonder if Schneed knows McShay, fellow Richmond Spider. He's not quite the arrogant ass he's made out to be but he has the misfortune of being compared to [B]Kiper, one of the profession'a most genuine people.[/B] I'm curious to see what McShays long term prospects are. Because his staunchest supporters are no longer in positions of power.[/quote]

Kiper is, and always will be, the man. Glad to hear he's for real from a trustworthy insider :)

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[quote=SBXVII;885120]I'm telling you, over the weekend I watched some film of him and came away impressed. He's gangly when he runs but otherwise he throws well and gets the yardage with his feet if need be.

I'd get PM, Weeden, and Osweiler. Osweiler is supposedly a 4-5th round pick..... yeah right.

Take PM.
Get some (2) FA WR's.
Trade back in the draft.
Take Weeden (maturity-age) late 1st.
Take Osweiler second round.

This way we have PM if healthy and two, not one, but two healthy young QB's to develope and hope one pans out if not both.[/quote]

Huh? So Weeden sits till he's 31 or so... and Osweiler stays on the bench behind both of those guys?

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Luck to indy. Manning to Houston. Schaub to Washington. Grossman to dumpsville.

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I don't want Schaub.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;885198]Luck to indy. Manning to Houston. Schaub to Washington. Grossman to dumpsville.[/quote]

That's interesting man...Houston is arguably the most likely AFC destination for PM. Instant SB contenders.

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Houston is a SB contender with Schaub now.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885199]I don't want Schaub.[/quote]

Schaub and Shanny Jr wouldn't interest you? Get Blackmon as a poor mans Andre and this offense could turn around quickly.

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I'd be happy with schaub right now...

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[QUOTE=NM Redskin;885203]Schaub and Shanny Jr wouldn't interest you? Get Blackmon as a poor mans Andre and this offense could turn around quickly.[/QUOTE]

No Schaub wouldn't interest me. Enough with other teams QBs. Lets go get Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. I'm sure they will be deadly as well.

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Schaub's problem has been staying healthy.

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[quote=The Goat;885194]Kiper is, and always will be, the man. Glad to hear he's for real from a trustworthy insider :)[/quote]

Schefter-leave him alone and let him do his work

Clayton-Pretty quiet but not rude. Generally on the phone anyway

Mortensen-Did you know this about me? Did you know that about me? Chatty and pretty outgoing, but you sometimes wonder if it matters that you're in the room

Kiper: Hey The Goat, how's Mrs. The Goat? Did she ever end up taking that pilates class you were talking about last time? I saw this article in the NY Times about a new game show that's being filmed out here and I know The Goat Jr. likes Robot Giraffe fights so he might enjoy going to a taping.

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Told you Denver was interested

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[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/cheers-and-jeers/2012/02/redskins-likely-pass-flynn-qb/270836]Redskins likely to pass on Flynn at QB | Washington Examiner[/url]

Many of you are probably thinking, "Why is this guy bringing up Flynn again? We have moved on from him!" Its not that I think Flynn is necessarily the answer to our QB problem, but I do think he is a viable option. He could be the answer, even the best option available.

The [B][I]Examiner[/I][/B] article seems to suggest that the Redskins have not moved off their opinion of Flynn since his exit from college. The story fruther observes that many NFL scouts now have a very different opinion of Flynn, but oh no, not the Redskins! The Redskins are not changing their dogmatic view of Flynn as an option for our QB starved team and fans.

This article just rubs me wrong. Of all the names mentioned as possible successors to Grossman, Flynn seems like one of the best and most logical options to me. But since the Redskins are unwilling to change their early/initial view of him, they will not likely consider him as a QB solution in 2012.

Leadership changes, but it seems that the Redskins get stuck with old ideas and just cant seem to move off them. Just like Manning, there is a lot of new info on Peyton, his injury, his prospects for rehab and recovery, and the effects of all that on his passing skills. But somehow, I get the impression that the Redskins still view him as a Super Bowl, franchise caliber QB. What about the new information? Shouldn't that matter to us? What about the empirical evidence that we have on Flynn? Surely that matters!

Evidently not, the Redskins seem to be still stuck in the "once established, never change mode" when it comes to player evaluation. Sorry for the rant, but the Redskins need to wake up, catch up with current thinking, stop being so D#&N dogmatic in their views of facts, and the impact those facts have on player performance. Skills erode; players get worse; some players get better with experience and instruction. WAKE UP!:soapbox:

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[quote=SmootSmack;885229]
Kiper: Hey The Goat, how's Mrs. The Goat? Did she ever end up taking that pilates class you were talking about last time? I saw this article in the NY Times about a new game show that's being filmed out here and I know The Goat Jr. likes Robot Giraffe fights so he might enjoy going to a taping.[/quote]

Lol. I love Kiper.

"Mel Kiper gets to your sister, he gets to your mother, he gets to everybody!"
[YT]UHiUqL2KLiM[/YT]

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[quote=redskin29633;885329][URL="http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/cheers-and-jeers/2012/02/redskins-likely-pass-flynn-qb/270836"]Redskins likely to pass on Flynn at QB | Washington Examiner[/URL]

Many of you are probably thinking, "Why is this guy bringing up Flynn again? We have moved on from him!" Its not that I think Flynn is necessarily the answer to our QB problem, but I do think he is a viable option. He could be the answer, even the best option available.

The [B][I]Examiner[/I][/B] article seems to suggest that the Redskins have not moved off their opinion of Flynn since his exit from college. The story fruther observes that many NFL scouts now have a very different opinion of Flynn, but oh no, not the Redskins! The Redskins are not changing their dogmatic view of Flynn as an option for our QB starved team and fans.

This article just rubs me wrong. Of all the names mentioned as possible successors to Grossman, Flynn seems like one of the best and most logical options to me. But since the Redskins are unwilling to change their early/initial view of him, they will not likely consider him as a QB solution in 2012.

Leadership changes, but it seems that the Redskins get stuck with old ideas and just cant seem to move off them. Just like Manning, there is a lot of new info on Peyton, his injury, his prospects for rehab and recovery, and the effects of all that on his passing skills. But somehow, I get the impression that the Redskins still view him as a Super Bowl, franchise caliber QB. What about the new information? Shouldn't that matter to us? What about the empirical evidence that we have on Flynn? Surely that matters!

Evidently not, the Redskins seem to be still stuck in the "once established, never change mode" when it comes to player evaluation. Sorry for the rant, but the Redskins need to wake up, catch up with current thinking, stop being so D#&N dogmatic in their views of facts, and the impact those facts have on player performance. Skills erode; players get worse; some players get better with experience and instruction. WAKE UP!:soapbox:[/quote]

I don't think the Skins are alone in doubting Flynn.

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[quote=Mattyk;885338]I don't think the Skins are alone in doubting Flynn.[/quote]

Misery loves company, I suppose.

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[quote=redskin29633;885340]Misery loves company, I suppose.[/quote]

Or maybe there are reasons why he was a 7th round draft pick.

Would you have any concerns about giving him a big money contract based on little we've seen from him?

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[quote=Mattyk;885356]Or maybe there are reasons why he was a 7th round draft pick.

Would you have any concerns about giving him a big money contract based on little we've seen from him?[/quote]

None whatsoever. He's had one brilliant game out of 3 or 4 total, so using my completely logical theory that means he's worth a 5 year, 100 mil contract with 50 mil signing bonus. Lock it up!

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Smootsmack, has there been any mention of Ponder or Sanchez?

I can't imagine MIN is willing to give up on Ponder yet, but M n M just discussed the possibility of them drafting RG3. If MIN were to draft RG3, I would hope the Redskins would take a long look at Ponder.

I could see Sanchez leaving the Jets though, and while I've never been a huge fan of him, he's certainly shown he has talent at points in his career.

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[quote=Mahons21;885369]Smootsmack, has there been any mention of Ponder or Sanchez?

I can't imagine MIN is willing to give up on Ponder yet, but M n M just discussed the possibility of them drafting RG3. If MIN were to draft RG3, I would hope the Redskins would take a long look at Ponder.

I could see Sanchez leaving the Jets though, and while I've never been a huge fan of him, he's certainly shown he has talent at points in his career.[/quote]

Ponder? Not that I've really heard

Sanchez? Yeah, for sure if Manning goes there.

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Ya I can't see Minny giving up on Ponder this early, but when M n M brought it up I figured I'd ask.

Sanchez could be a solid option, bring him into compete, draft a mid rd guy like Cousins/Weeden.

ES really is going to shit a brick come draft day, I think..

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Let me ask the M & M guys what that was all about, if anything

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If I had to guess it's just some Minny fan caught up in the RG3 hype sending in a tweet or e-mail.

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If we bring in Sanchez I will cry.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885386]If we bring in Sanchez I will cry.[/quote]

Me too.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885386]If we bring in Sanchez I will cry.[/quote]

Especially if we have to give up picks...it'd be McNabb Part II.

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[quote=Ruhskins;885399]Especially if we have to give up picks...it'd be McNabb Part II.[/quote]

I was under the assumption that the Jets would give [I]us[/I] picks for Sanchez.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885386]If we bring in Sanchez I will cry.[/quote]

Me three.

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I guess that means that we must try and sign PM at all cost. Just to avoid having to acquire the Sanchise from the Jets.

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[quote=Mahons21;885385]If I had to guess it's just some Minny fan caught up in the RG3 hype sending in a tweet or e-mail.[/quote]

Didn't sound like anything. Just hypothetical discussion of should the Vikings make a move for the QB. And in response to a fan asking about getting Luck or RG3, Golic says Ponder was a surprise pick but he think the Vikings will stick with him

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[quote=SmootSmack;885445]Didn't sound like anything. Just hypothetical discussion of should the Vikings make a move for the QB. And in response to a fan asking about getting Luck or RG3, Golic says Ponder was a surprise pick but he think the Vikings will stick with him[/quote]

Appreciate it.