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REDSKINS4ever 03-08-2012 05:19 PM

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When is Goddell suppose to make his decision on Williams and Sean Payton?

mooby 03-08-2012 09:58 PM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;893754]When is Goddell suppose to make his decision on Williams and Sean Payton?[/quote]

Whenever he's done putting gas in the Fluggen-kliggin-kien he's gonna use on GW.

SmootSmack 03-08-2012 10:09 PM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;893754]When is Goddell suppose to make his decision on Williams and Sean Payton?[/quote]

March 26. Seriously doubt they start the owners meeting without a decision

skinsguy 03-09-2012 09:11 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;893076]Gibbs admits to giving bonuses for big plays within the rules, and back then it wasn't against league policy either.[/quote]

I had to chuckle when I read about Gibbs rewarding his players by letting them sit in lazy-Boy chairs during team meetings.

MTK 03-09-2012 09:14 AM

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[quote=skinsguy;893936]I had to chuckle when I read about Gibbs rewarding his players by letting them sit in lazy-Boy chairs during team meetings.[/quote]

It's even funnier to see people compare that stuff to what Williams has done.

Ruhskins 03-12-2012 02:14 PM

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Saints top brass meeting with NFL in regards to Bountygate

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7676922/new-orleans-saints-tom-benson-sean-payton-meet-nfl-sources-say]New Orleans Saints' Tom Benson, Sean Payton meet with NFL, sources say - ESPN[/url]

Monkeydad 04-03-2012 04:22 PM

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Fred Smoot, you better hide!

htownskinfan 04-05-2012 08:02 AM

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This is not good
Carlos Rogers confirms that Gregg Williams used bounties in D.C.
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/05/carlos-rogers-confirs-that-gregg-williams-used-bounties-in-d-c/]Carlos Rogers confirms that Gregg Williams used bounties in D.C. | ProFootballTalk[/url]

skinsfaninok 04-05-2012 08:07 AM

[QUOTE=htownskinfan;906911]This is not good
Carlos Rogers confirms that Gregg Williams used bounties in D.C.
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/05/carlos-rogers-confirs-that-gregg-williams-used-bounties-in-d-c/]Carlos Rogers confirms that Gregg Williams used bounties in D.C. | ProFootballTalk[/url][/QUOTE]

He's a POS

CrustyRedskin 04-05-2012 08:08 AM

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[quote=htownskinfan;906911]This is not good
Carlos Rogers confirms that Gregg Williams used bounties in D.C.
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/05/carlos-rogers-confirs-that-gregg-williams-used-bounties-in-d-c/]Carlos Rogers confirms that Gregg Williams used bounties in D.C. | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Hell hath no fury like a disgruntled db(defensive back or d-bag your choice) scorned. :FIREdevil

Darrell_Green_28 04-05-2012 08:47 AM

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Hes pissed cuz he didnt collect on many of those Interception bonuses

MTK 04-05-2012 08:52 AM

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Rogers really isn't saying anything ground breaking.

Still, why do these guys keep talking? It's like they just can't help themselves.

NC_Skins 04-05-2012 09:00 AM

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=At9UbKohK6AeAkVEI4YLxPI5nYcB?slug=ms-silver_gregg_williams_speech_saints_49ers_bounty_040412]Source: Gregg Williams instructed Saints during speech to injure Niners offensive players - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Could be a looooooong while before GW ever sees a NFL sideline again. (as a coach anyways)

MTK 04-05-2012 09:00 AM

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This on the other hand, wow

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/05/before-final-game-gregg-williams-urged-saints-to-injure-49ers/]Before final game, Gregg Williams urged Saints to injure 49ers | ProFootballTalk[/url]

SmootSmack 04-05-2012 09:06 AM

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Oh snap! Did you all see this?

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Powerful-Gregg-Williams-bountygate-audio-emerges.html]Powerful Gregg Williams bountygate audio emerges | National Football Post[/url]

Ok, we should probably stop now

Chico23231 04-05-2012 09:10 AM

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[quote=htownskinfan;906911]This is not good
Carlos Rogers confirms that Gregg Williams used bounties in D.C.
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/05/carlos-rogers-confirs-that-gregg-williams-used-bounties-in-d-c/]Carlos Rogers confirms that Gregg Williams used bounties in D.C. | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

straight up bitch move, wouldnt expect anything less from Los

NC_Skins 04-05-2012 09:16 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;906933]Oh snap! Did you all see this?

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Powerful-Gregg-Williams-bountygate-audio-emerges.html]Powerful Gregg Williams bountygate audio emerges | National Football Post[/url]

Ok, we should probably stop now[/quote]


Just listened to the audio, and he pretty much suggests to them taking out the ACL on Crabtree. Now that kind of shit should probably get him a lifetime ban. I have no problems with a coach teaching knocking a guy out via clean hard football, but to suggest some of the stuff he's talking about? Put a hit on guys you know have a concussion, take out the ACL, go for guy's head? Nah, GW should be done with in terms of coaching at the NFL level.

skinsfan69 04-05-2012 09:26 AM

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OMG..A NFL defensive coordinator told his players to knock a guy out. What's the world coming to? I'm sure Mr. Hypocrite ( Roger Goodell ) thinks that speech is a little over the top, and it probbaly was. But that's what guys do when they play defense. They try and knock guys out. It'll always be that way. Oh...and hitting guys in the knee is a legal hit. The Shanahan's taught this blocking style for years.

NC_Skins 04-05-2012 09:29 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;906943]OMG..A NFL defensive coordinator told his players to knock a guy out. What's the world coming to? I'm sure Mr. Hypocrite ( Roger Goodell ) thinks that speech is a little over the top, and it probbaly was. But that's what guys do when they play defense. They try and knock guys out. It'll always be that way. Oh...and hitting guys in the knee is a legal hit. The Shanahan's taught this blocking style for years.[/quote]

Did you even listen to the audio? Obviously not.

MTK 04-05-2012 09:56 AM

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:doh:

:Smoker:

skinsfan69 04-05-2012 10:03 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;906945]Did you even listen to the audio? Obviously not.[/quote]

I did. Not too big a deal. I know I'm in the minority.

Hog1 04-05-2012 10:17 AM

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They're running the audio track on ESPN right now.....
Darren Woodson:
Not good with naming the players and WHAT to do to them. Over the line.
All the rest is normal stuff....

SmootSmack 04-05-2012 10:22 AM

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I mean I think one of the big reasons this is damning is because it's pretty clear evidence that Williams continued the bounty program after being told by the league not to

skinsfan69 04-05-2012 10:28 AM

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agreed. they told him to stop and he didn't so he's a dumb ass.

Ruhskins 04-05-2012 10:31 AM

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Man, this makes Rex Ryan sound like an altar boy in terms of profanity.

Chief X_Phackter 04-05-2012 10:37 AM

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And in other news, did you hear that RGIII has turned down a private workout with the Colts?

mooby 04-05-2012 10:38 AM

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Without reading what Rogers said (because I'm at work and don't have access to PFT lol) it sounds like he's just saying what he's saying in the hopes they'll punish us, which I think is doubtful. If anything though I'd imagine it will be a while before we see GW in the NFL again, if ever.

NC_Skins 04-05-2012 10:42 AM

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[B][SIZE="3"]Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter

Keep in mind, NFL contacted Saints before these playoffs and basically told them to stop bounties. Saints didn't take warnings seriously.[/SIZE][/B]

MTK 04-05-2012 10:43 AM

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[quote=mooby;906962][B]Without reading what Rogers said (because I'm at work and don't have access to PFT lol) it sounds like he's just saying what he's saying in the hopes they'll punish us[/B], which I think is doubtful. If anything though I'd imagine it will be a while before we see GW in the NFL again, if ever.[/quote]

Not really.

[quote]
Rogers said it started as a pool of money consisting of fines imposed by Williams for players being late to meetings or missing meetings, along with money kicked in by players. Payments would be made for big plays, like interceptions.

At some point, the program expanded.

“It went on to guys just suggesting stuff in a room,” Rogers said. “If you knock this person out, let’s say a receiver, he comes across the middle. Safety knocks him out, a legal hit, you get this amount of money.”

Rogers insisted that the word “bounty” overstates the situation, and he claims that the payment system is a product of “competition in the [meeting] room,” and that “once the ball is snapped you’re not thinking about it.”

Though Rogers stopped short of saying that money was offered to 49ers players for efforts during the NFC title game, he said that players recognized that, when facing Giants quarterback [URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1657/eli-manning"][B][COLOR=#000000]Eli Manning[/COLOR][/B][/URL], “We need to take him out.”

Rogers also doesn’t believe that the current effort to punish the Saints will change the realities of pro football. “Will guys stop doing it in their [meeting] rooms? I doubt it.”

He also sounded off on Commissioner Roger Goodell’s habit of fining players for making big hits, arguing that “it’d probably be different” if Goodell had played pro football and understood how the game really works.

I’ve been following the NFL long enough to understand how it investigative process really works. When faced with a rabbit hole that may go far deeper than anyone at the league office wants to know or acknowledge it goes, the NFL often is inclined to cover the opening with dirt and move on.
[/quote]

mooby 04-05-2012 10:46 AM

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I stand corrected. Honestly is he really saying anything we haven't heard before? LOL I swear fans overreact sometimes.

Alvin Walton 04-05-2012 10:53 AM

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Greg Williams stole my Pokemons.

SBXVII 04-05-2012 10:56 AM

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Yet again....

The reason the Saints got nailed to the cross is because they were asked 3 times by Goodell about the bounty and was informed there was no bounty. Basically the Saints lied. I would guess if they were honest the first time he simply would have told them to stop and called it a warning. The Saints lied 3 times and all 3 times Goodell instructed them to stop if they had a bounty. He's found out they lied all 3 times to him which is why the severe punishment.

The bounty itself is one thing, but the harsh punishment is due to the lies he received. Had Goodell been investigating a bounty while GW was here and the team lied we too would be punished just as hard.

SBXVII 04-05-2012 10:58 AM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;906968]Greg Williams stole my Pokemons.[/quote]

? Your still into Pokemons? One would think (if your an adult) by now you'd be past that and into Poker. Try saying this..."Greg Williams stole my Poker chips."

mooby 04-05-2012 10:58 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;906969]Yet again....

The reason the Saints got nailed to the cross is because they were asked 3 times by Goodell about the bounty and was informed there was no bounty. Basically the Saints lied. I would guess if they were honest the first time he simply would have told them to stop and called it a warning. The Saints lied 3 times and all 3 times Goodell instructed them to stop if they had a bounty. He's found out they lied all 3 times to him which is why the severe punishment.

The bounty itself is one thing, but the harsh punishment is due to the lies he received. Had Goodell been investigating a bounty while GW was here and the team lied we too would be punished just as hard.[/quote]

Did you hear about Robert Griffin denying the Colts a workout? Craaaa-zy. :D

Dirtbag59 04-05-2012 12:23 PM

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The real scandal was perpetrated by the Bengals. Poor kid. In high school and he's already peaked. What a terrible TERRIBLE thing to do to a hormone driven adolescence. The tears.....so difficult....to hold back.

[url=http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/article/251027/6/Former-Cincinnati-Bengals-Cheerleader-Sarah-Jones-Pleads-Not-Guilty-to-Sex-Abuse]Former Cincinnati Bengals Cheerleader Sarah Jones Pleads Not Guilty to Sex Abuse | firstcoastnews.com[/url]

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-05-2012 12:45 PM

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;907000]The real scandal was perpetrated by the Bengals. Poor kid. In high school and he's already peaked. What a terrible TERRIBLE thing to do to a hormone driven adolescence. The tears.....so difficult....to hold back.



Former Cincinnati Bengals Cheerleader Sarah Jones Pleads Not Guilty to Sex Abuse | firstcoastnews.com[/QUOTE]



50 bucks says she doesn't spend a second in jail.

JoeRedskin 04-05-2012 12:57 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;907000]The real scandal was perpetrated by the Bengals. Poor kid. In high school and he's already peaked. What a terrible TERRIBLE thing to do to a hormone driven adolescence. The tears.....so difficult....to hold back.

[url=http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/article/251027/6/Former-Cincinnati-Bengals-Cheerleader-Sarah-Jones-Pleads-Not-Guilty-to-Sex-Abuse]Former Cincinnati Bengals Cheerleader Sarah Jones Pleads Not Guilty to Sex Abuse | firstcoastnews.com[/url][/quote]

So ... yeah, I flipped through the slides for the story. Look at slides 11 & 12 -- She's wearing an arm band with what I can only imagine are Cheerleader "Plays". I just had to laugh as a gazillion "blonde" jokes came to mind. I am sure there's a Donovan joke in there somewhere, but I just can't think of one.

CrustyRedskin 04-05-2012 01:02 PM

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Good Gurdy, WTF???

[url]http://www.firstcoastnews.com/images/640/360/2/assetpool/photogallery/251025/cheer11.jpg[/url]

Dirtbag59 04-05-2012 01:07 PM

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;907011]Good Gurdy, WTF???

[url]http://www.firstcoastnews.com/images/640/360/2/assetpool/photogallery/251025/cheer11.jpg[/url][/quote]

Ra ra ah ah ah roma Gaga ga.

skinsfaninok 04-05-2012 01:10 PM

Who recorded GW? Btw that's a pussy move to do that


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