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[quote=CultBrennan59;995196]Kyle Long, Vincent Painter and Lane Johnson are the only other OL who ran in the 4's. [B]Skins will hopefully meet with Long, he'd be a great RT for us.[/B][/quote]

Maybe. Despite his fine pedigree he is very raw and has short arms to boot.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;995196]Kyle Long, Vincent Painter and Lane Johnson are the only other OL who ran in the 4's. Skins will hopefully meet with Long, he'd be a great RT for us.[/quote]

Long could end up in Philly with his old coach.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;995202]Long could end up in Philly with his old coach.[/quote]

Yes, very likely.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/23/terron-armstead-a-306-pound-tackle-runs-a-jaw-dropping-40/]Terron Armstead, a 306-pound tackle, runs a jaw-dropping 40 | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Holy shit. A 306 lb. tackle running a 4.71 in the 40. Imagine that dude hitting you on a sweep or pulling play.

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[quote=NC_Skins;995207][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/23/terron-armstead-a-306-pound-tackle-runs-a-jaw-dropping-40/]Terron Armstead, a 306-pound tackle, runs a jaw-dropping 40 | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Holy shit. A 306 lb. tackle running a 4.71 in the 40. Imagine that dude hitting you on a sweep or pulling play.[/quote]

Bruce Campbell ran a 4.7 and 4.8 forty a few years ago..where is he now

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[quote=CultBrennan59;995210]Bruce Campbell ran a 4.7 and 4.8 forty a few years ago..where is he now[/quote]

acting in Burn Notice. Don't understand why you are insulting the man.

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[quote=donofriose;995212]acting in Burn Notice. Don't understand why you are insulting the man.[/quote]

Must be a slow Saturday for him...

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[quote=CultBrennan59;995210]Bruce Campbell ran a 4.7 and 4.8 forty a few years ago..where is he now[/quote]

Playing for the Panthers, still in the league.


Good article on Campbell.

[url=http://www.catscratchreader.com/2013/2/18/3993252/bruce-campbell-what-do-we-know]Bruce Campbell: What do we know? - Cat Scratch Reader[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;995217]Playing for the Panthers, still in the league.


Good article on Campbell.

[url=http://www.catscratchreader.com/2013/2/18/3993252/bruce-campbell-what-do-we-know]Bruce Campbell: What do we know? - Cat Scratch Reader[/url][/quote]

No I know he is. I should have said "And what has he done?"

Point is don't get all caught up in numbers. If you can play, you can play. The combine is really only good for a few select players, like Chris Johnson, or guys with character questions that need to pass in the interviews.
[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1536915-how-top-combine-performers-have-panned-out-in-the-pros]How Top NFL Scouting Combine Performers Have Panned out in the Pros | Bleacher Report[/url]

We all knew Calvin was going to be great. Vernon benefited from the combine. So did Bo.

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[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1538911-10-draft-prospects-every-redskins-fan-should-know-about/page/2]10 Draft Prospects Every Redskins Fan Should Know About | Bleacher Report[/url]

I Love this list!

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Also the skins have reportedly met with:

FS Phillip Thomas Fresno State
RB Andre Ellington Clemson
WR Marcus Davis VT
CB Brandon McGee Miami
SS Duke Williams Nevada
LB Sam Barrington USF
OL Justin Pugh Syracuse
OT Oday Aboushyi UVA
TE Mychal Riveria Tennessee
DL Montori Hughes Tennessee-Martin
FS Bradley McDougald Kansas
LB/DE Ty Powell Harding

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[quote=CultBrennan59;995225]No I know he is. I should have said "And what has he done?"

Point is don't get all caught up in numbers. If you can play, you can play. The combine is really only good for a few select players, like Chris Johnson, or guys with character questions that need to pass in the interviews.
[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1536915-how-top-combine-performers-have-panned-out-in-the-pros]How Top NFL Scouting Combine Performers Have Panned out in the Pros | Bleacher Report[/url]

We all knew Calvin was going to be great. Vernon benefited from the combine. So did Bo.[/quote]


I didn't say draft him high either. I just said holy shit a 306 lb guy running a 4.71 which is pretty incredible. Bruce Campbell only ran a 4.85 by the way. Somehow you've taken this and applied other meanings that aren't there. Campbell hasn't progressed mostly due to his ethic from what I gather in a few articles, which has nothing to do why he's failing. If you don't have the work ethic to go along with physical ability, it isn't going to matter much.

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[quote=NC_Skins;995256]I didn't say draft him high either. I just said holy shit a 306 lb guy running a 4.71 which is pretty incredible. Bruce Campbell only ran a 4.85 by the way. Somehow you've taken this and applied other meanings that aren't there. Campbell hasn't progressed mostly due to his ethic from what I gather in a few articles, which has nothing to do why he's failing. If you don't have the work ethic to go along with physical ability, it isn't going to matter much.[/quote]

The fact is, at the time he wowed the critics at the combine with his forty, and had lots of people talking. This Armstead guy is doing the same thing.

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So the redskins are going to meet tonight with:

FS TJ McDonald USC
FS Tony Jefferson OU
DB Tyran Mathieu LSU (already met with him)
CB Will Davis Utah St.
SS JJ Wilcox Georgia Southern
CB Jordan Poyer Oregon St
FS DJ Swearinger SCarolina (unconfirmed)

And Kenny Stills, Marquis Goodwin, and Tavon Austin all ran in the 4.2s unofficially, with (unofficially) Tavon and Goodwin breaking CJs 4.24 forty

OFFICIALLY

Tavon Austin 4.34

Marquis Goodwin 4.27

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[quote=CultBrennan59;995262]So the redskins are going to meet tonight with:

FS TJ McDonald USC
FS Tony Jefferson OU
DB Tyran Mathieu LSU (already met with him)

And Kenny Stills, Marquis Goodwin, and Tavon Austin all ran in the 4.2s unofficially, with (unofficially) Tavon and Goodwin breaking CJs 4.24 forty[/quote]

They ran unofficial 4.25's but the official times will come out later.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/72966/tavon-austin-marquise-goodwin-sub-4-3s]Tavon Austin, Marquise Goodwin: sub-4.3s - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;995260]The fact is, at the time he wowed the critics at the combine with his forty, and had lots of people talking. This Armstead guy is doing the same thing.[/quote]

Its the combine, it really does not matter. Too many combine busts to even list.

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Texas A&M WR Swope ran a 4.34, Goodwin official time at 4.27.

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Great info guys, thanks.

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id like us to take Matt Elam.

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Yeah I'm actually mad swope ran a fast forty cause he was my under the radar guy we could get in the later rounds

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[quote=CultBrennan59;995290]Yeah I'm actually mad swope ran a fast forty cause he was my under the radar guy we could get in the later rounds[/quote]

Yup, good size, production and speed probably means 2nd round pick.

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Gavin Escobar is a name shooting up draft boards. Great hands, supposedly the best for TE in this draft. Only problem is he needs to improve run blocking. But his draft profile sounds a lot like Antonio Gates and Tony Gonzales, formal basketball player with good athleticism and can stretch defenses.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/gavin-escobar?id=2540211]NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Gavin Escobar[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwQs9CP0ZI8[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgZm7M3PoO8[/url]

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Not good news for Star Lotulelei. I imagine this has killed his draft stock quite a bit. Hopefully it turns out ok.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/combine-utah-defensive-tackle-star-lotulelei-sidelined-heart-232522917--nfl.html;_ylt=Ap.XEcXHlMKYq0OAgOYfF9lYYsp_;_ylu=X3oDMTJsZjR2b2NqBG1pdANIQ01PTCBvbiBhcnRpY2xlIHJpZ2h0IHJhaWwEcGtnA2lkLTMwNzk0NDYEcG9zAzcEc2VjA01lZGlhQkNhcm91c2VsTWl4ZWRIQ00EdmVyAzg-;_ylg=X3oDMTJtNTR1MGVsBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNDMyNGRhYjctNDc3OC0zZjZkLTkwOTctOWQxMGFjMTVhOTRhBHBzdGNhdANuZmwEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=3]Y! SPORTS[/url]

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8981415/2013-nfl-draft-combine-star-lotulelei-heart-condition-work-monday-according-sources]2013 NFL draft combine -- Star Lotulelei has heart condition, won't work out Monday, according to sources - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;995348]Not good news for Star Lotulelei. I imagine this has killed his draft stock quite a bit. Hopefully it turns out ok.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/combine-utah-defensive-tackle-star-lotulelei-sidelined-heart-232522917--nfl.html;_ylt=Ap.XEcXHlMKYq0OAgOYfF9lYYsp_;_ylu=X3oDMTJsZjR2b2NqBG1pdANIQ01PTCBvbiBhcnRpY2xlIHJpZ2h0IHJhaWwEcGtnA2lkLTMwNzk0NDYEcG9zAzcEc2VjA01lZGlhQkNhcm91c2VsTWl4ZWRIQ00EdmVyAzg-;_ylg=X3oDMTJtNTR1MGVsBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNDMyNGRhYjctNDc3OC0zZjZkLTkwOTctOWQxMGFjMTVhOTRhBHBzdGNhdANuZmwEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=3]Y! SPORTS[/url]

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8981415/2013-nfl-draft-combine-star-lotulelei-heart-condition-work-monday-according-sources]2013 NFL draft combine -- Star Lotulelei has heart condition, won't work out Monday, according to sources - ESPN[/url][/quote]

This reminds me of that lineman a few years ago; heath benedict, they found out he had a heart problem, then he was found dead a few weeks later. Hopefully Star is ok and will fix/help/correct whatever is wrong with his heart.

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Saw this what do you think?

[url]http://fanspeak.com/washingtonredskins/2013/02/25/why-the-redskins-should-consider-stockpiling-picks/[/url]

Didn't we do this like two drafts ago.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;995410]Saw this what do you think?

[url]http://fanspeak.com/washingtonredskins/2013/02/25/why-the-redskins-should-consider-stockpiling-picks/[/url]

Didn't we do this like two drafts ago.[/quote]

I'm for the stockpiling picks approach. However, since the draft is deep but light at the top, everyone might be looking to trade back. Thus trading down may be harder to do this year.

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Since we already have 7 picks I think we're ok as is. Although given this front office's approach in the past I'm sure we'll move around some in the draft.

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Te'o has had a horrible day doing his drills. 4.81 & 4.80 FORTY. Looked horrible in the agility drills.

I hope the Giants waste their 1st rnd pick on him. Morris will roll him all day.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;995410]Saw this what do you think?

[url]http://fanspeak.com/washingtonredskins/2013/02/25/why-the-redskins-should-consider-stockpiling-picks/[/url]

Didn't we do this like two drafts ago.[/quote]

I'm also all for this. However if there's a guy on that first round border, like Elam for example, and he's there or a few picks away, I'm all for grading up a few picks or staying put to get that guy.

Like we've said before, besides the fact that this draft has no great QBs, it has pretty much everything else, and it has depth, especially at positions of need for the redskins. I love it. Draft draft draft. This is the biggest sign to the redskins we are in the right direction/ doing something right if everything in the draft the past few years have been great for our needs. The cap penalty is basically another sign to us that we should continue drafting.

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Looks like we have another dumbass LSU player that doesn't know how to shut his mouth.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/lsu-t-happy-hear-sam-montgomery-said-took-152908222--ncaaf.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]

[quote] “You know, some weeks when we didn’t have to play the harder teams, there were some times when effort was not needed,” he said.

“But when we had the big boys coming in — the Bamas or the South Carolinas — I grabbed close to those guys and went all-out.”
[/quote]


Not only that, seems many of his coaches killed him about his attitude.

[url=http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=6794]NFL Combine News & Notes: Saturday[/url]


[quote]- To expand on a post from yesterday, we’ve been hearing since October that Sam Montgomery/DE/LSU was not receiving rave reviews from his college coaches. More to the point I was told the LSU coaches have been slamming him. Montgomery’s attitude and personality did not sat well with a number of his former teammates or coaches.[/quote]


Would not touch this kid.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;995423]Te'o has had a horrible day doing his drills. 4.81 & 4.80 FORTY. Looked horrible in the agility drills.

I hope the Giants waste their 1st rnd pick on him. Morris will roll him all day.[/quote]


Some funny stuff up here. :laughing-

[url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/2/25/4028664/john-harbaugh-manti-teo-40-gif]John Harbaugh is unimpressed by Manti Te'o's 40 - SBNation.com[/url]


[IMG]http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1460237/KPUMwoC.jpg[/IMG]

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Te'o is an excellent football player, but the market for run-first middle linebackers is similar to the market for quarterbacks: every team only needs one, and the success of your MLB is very much a function of the talent around him. The MLB is hardly ever isolated in the scheme, much like the quarterback.

The fact is there were only about 8 or 9 teams that were ever going to be in the market for Te'o, and a fall to the second round was always a possibility. The Patriots got Brandon Spikes with the [B]last[/B] pick in the second round, and Spikes essentially was a poor man's Te'o.

I'm still not sure he'll get past the Giants though.

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tyrann-mathieu-runs-under-4-5-first-combine-144747502--nfl.html]Video: Tyrann Mathieu runs under 4.5 in his first combine 40, starts the NFL redemption process | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

- I was wrong about him running a 4.5+, Also he gained muscle and weighed in at 186. He is making all the right moves.

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[B]Landry Jones ran a 5.11 in the 40 with a "unique" running style.[/B]

[img]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2225803/lolandry.gif[/img]
"Landry Jones. Jones ran an expectedly slow 40-time, clocking in at 5.11 seconds, last among the 13 quarterbacks who competed."

Compared to RGIII (torching Cam Newton and Andrew Luck).

[img]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/971739/simul.gif[/img]

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More 40-yard fun:

[IMG]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2220867/futuregreatfatguy_medium.gif[/IMG]

[IMG]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2235619/harbaughhatesteo.gif[/IMG]

[img]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2239223/shamarkofail.gif[/img]
^ Still ran 4.38

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I look at all these DBs and see maybe a handful that I wouldn't want. Translation; I love this class of DBs. None of these guys are ''slow'' and need to be moved to safety based on poor speed.

Matt Elam ran a 4.54. Pretty good for an NFL safety. I'm pretty sure he just guaranteed himself to go before we pick.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;995423]Te'o has had a horrible day doing his drills. 4.81 & 4.80 FORTY. Looked horrible in the agility drills.

I hope the Giants waste their 1st rnd pick on him. Morris will roll him all day.[/quote]

Well, Te'o does actually have safety speed.

Only problem is that that safety plays on the same team as Te'o (Zeke Motta 4.81)

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[quote=CultBrennan59;995600]I look at all these DBs and see maybe a handful that I wouldn't want. Translation; I love this class of DBs. None of these guys are ''slow'' and need to be moved to safety based on poor speed.

Matt Elam ran a 4.54. Pretty good for an NFL safety. I'm pretty sure he just guaranteed himself to go before we pick.[/quote]

As did Desmond Trufant. Especially with Banks running a bad 40. Trufant will get selected before the Skins pick.

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Rhodes ran faster than I thought he would. Actually thought Honey Badger would be faster than 4.5

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[B]Bacarri Rambo[/B]

We need to draft this guy so I can buy his jersey.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;995423]Te'o has had a horrible day doing his drills. 4.81 & 4.80 FORTY. Looked horrible in the agility drills.

I hope the Giants waste their 1st rnd pick on him. Morris will roll him all day.[/quote]

I wouldn't pay too much attention to his combine results. Te'o is a football player with great football instincs. He can play football. If he's sitting there in the 2nd round when we pick, I think he's worth a serious look.