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[quote=SmootSmack;986381]He''ll be arriving at Dr. Andrews' office around 1:30. So nothing before then[/quote]

I expect up to the moment reporting from you Mr. SmootSmack. It's why I pay the big bucks to be part of the particualr chat board. Photos from the waiting room, exam room and up to the moment videos of Griffin as Dr. Andrews examining him. If Griffin screams, manly like of course, I expect to be the first to hear the sound bite.

Time to earn that insider rep with which you keep taunting us!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;986396]I expect up to the moment reporting from you Mr. SmootSmack. It's why I pay the big bucks to be part of the particualr chat board. Photos from the waiting room, exam room and up to the moment videos of Griffin as Dr. Andrews examining him. If Griffin screams, manly like of course, I expect to be the first to hear the sound bite.

Time to earn that insider rep with which you keep taunting us![/quote]

You do know that Schefter and Mortenson specifically made their commercial to taunt Smoot's (so called) "Insider" Reputation

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[quote=JoeRedskin;986396]I expect up to the moment reporting from you Mr. SmootSmack. It's why I pay the big bucks to be part of the particualr chat board. Photos from the waiting room, exam room and up to the moment videos of Griffin as Dr. Andrews examining him. If Griffin screams, manly like of course, I expect to be the first to hear the sound bite.

Time to earn that insider rep with which you keep taunting us![/quote]

Yep....SS, this is where the rubber meets the road, lol!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;986401]You do know that Schefter and Mortenson specifically made their commercial to taunt Smoot's (so called) "Insider" Reputation

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That commercial is so fake. Everyone knows Freeney's laundry room is painted in Lilac.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;986374]We also saw Wes Welker come back relatviely quickly from an ACL injury, Carson Palmer came back early but was never the same. I am taking the wait and see approach before I get all gung-ho about everything.[/quote]

Yep. Probably the best approach Quake.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;986396]I expect up to the moment reporting from you Mr. SmootSmack. It's why I pay the big bucks to be part of the particualr chat board. Photos from the waiting room, exam room and up to the moment videos of Griffin as Dr. Andrews examining him. If Griffin screams, manly like of course, I expect to be the first to hear the sound bite.

Time to earn that insider rep with which you keep taunting us![/quote]

Matty hasn't re-signed me for another year yet...so I'm holding out

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[quote=SmootSmack;986410]Matty hasn't re-signed me for another year yet...so I'm holding out[/quote]

Ah ha! I knew it. I bet you guys have the same agent too! I smell collusion, conspiracy, co-mingling and other co-bad stuff. I can't prove it so it must be true!!

I blame it on pie, the Simpsons and Question 3.

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Word is that Mara is trying to take away some of the Warpath mod salary cap.

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;986387]I have heard that it is a better situation if its only a partial tear to the acl and I've heard that's what Robert is hoping for. If you go back to the first giants game I remember being scared on a fumble and he went down awkward and his knee bent similar to the way it did Sunday but he got up and was fine. You can see the play on the highlights if that game, I'm hoping it looked worse then it is and it's just partial. fingers crossed. If not, I have tremendous faith in Robert to work hard and come back even better, he has the drive.[/quote]

They had a orthopedic surgeon on Sirius XM NFL Radio this morning who said just the contrary. If it is completely torn they can do surgery to reattach the muscle to the bone. If it is a partial tear, surgery can most likely not be done and the ACL can not repair itself due to its place on the inside of the knee, basically giving you a weakened joint until you completely tear it. The MCL and LCL which are on the outside of the knee can repair themselves with therapy and treatment. That prognosis scared me. I hope it is just his LCL and not his ACL being partially torn as previously speculated.

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Regardless of what the injury is, its pretty much certain that Griffin will miss all of the offseason, pre-season, and atleast some of the regular season - and that's the best case scenario.

I'm honestly hoping that the injury is such that he's out all of next year. If the skins and Robert have even a glimmer of hope he can play in 2012, he'll rush back and get hurt again. I'm 100% convinced of that.

As far as i'm concerned, unless his injury is minor and he's FULLY recovered and truly 100% healthy by the time training camp starts, then id rather him rest his knee the whole year. Come back in 2014 fully recovered where the knee isnt even a concern. We've been burned once by rushing him back. We shouldnt let it happen again.

Well be fine with Cousins in 2013.

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Well as I have taken all this in I'm kind of pissed this has happened. First I'm ticked Snyder and the front office would allow the field to get so bad. Second for the coaching staff to allow him to stay in the game after the half. Is there anyone here that did not wonder why he was still in the game come the 4th qtr and the lack of any production. Third we have CC for a reason and we did not trust him to go out and win the game when he was needed. I'm sure CC wondered the same thing and his confidence took a hit.

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Pretty good read from a buddy of mine, Matt Lewis.

[url=http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/08/rg3s-knee-warrior-culture-meets-effete-journalism/]RG3's knee: 'Warrior culture' meets effete journalism? | The Daily Caller[/url]

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;986417]Regardless of what the injury is, its pretty much certain that Griffin will miss all of the offseason, pre-season, and atleast some of the regular season - and that's the best case scenario.

I'm honestly hoping that the injury is such that he's out all of next year. If the skins and Robert have even a glimmer of hope he can play in 2012, he'll rush back and get hurt again. I'm 100% convinced of that.

As far as i'm concerned, unless his injury is minor and he's FULLY recovered and truly 100% healthy by the time training camp starts, then id rather him rest his knee the whole year. Come back in 2014 fully recovered where the knee isnt even a concern. We've been burned once by rushing him back. We shouldnt let it happen again.

Well be fine with Cousins in 2013.[/quote]

This. 100% feel the same. I obviously am hoping that the injury is not major and he can heal over the next 2-3 months, and be 100%. I do not want him rushing back though, even if he missed all of next season he'd still only be TWENTY FOUR when 2014 starts. The kid has a bright bright, long future... just hate to see something like this really screw that up.

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[quote=firstdown;986418]Well as I have taken all this in I'm kind of pissed this has happened. First I'm ticked Snyder and the front office would allow the field to get so bad. Second for the coaching staff to allow him to stay in the game after the half. Is there anyone here that did not wonder why he was still in the game come the 4th qtr and the lack of any production. Third we have CC for a reason and we did not trust him to go out and win the game when he was needed. I'm sure CC wondered the same thing and his confidence took a hit.[/quote]

I can see your first two points...but your third...WHAT???

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[quote=SmootSmack;986425]I can see your first two points...but your third...WHAT???[/quote]

Come on man, you know Chris Cooley could have gone out there and won that damn thing for us. He's secretly a master at the pistol. Lol. KC I'm guessing he meant...

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I sure would have like to seen the final score if the D had held them on the 3rd and 12 early in the game being up 14-0.

RGIII will be fine.

Captain Kirks confidence is fine. BTW didnt he have two chances to drive down the field. Wasnt happening against that D.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;986432] BTW didnt he have two chances to drive down the field. Wasnt happening against that D.[/quote]



Not fair to use those 2 drives as a good example. By then, their main weapon (Morris) had been taken out of the equation because they were 10 points down and HAD to throw. You can't allow that defense to pin its ears back and rush the passer and expect good results. Had they brought him in earlier, it could have meant the difference in how the game was played out. Not even going to mention WRs dropping balls (cough...Hank...cough).

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[quote=SmootSmack;986410]Matty hasn't re-signed me for another year yet...so I'm holding out[/quote]

Isn't that what you say every time? I think we need a Freedom of Information Act here at the Warpath!

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[quote=SmootSmack;986425]I can see your first two points...but your third...WHAT???[/quote]

I think he meant KC not Chris Cooley.

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[quote=GMScud;986429]Come on man, you know Chris Cooley could have gone out there and won that damn thing for us. He's secretly a master at the pistol. Lol. [B]KC I'm guessing he meant...[/B][/quote][quote=mredskins;986439]I think he meant KC not Chris Cooley.[/quote]i think he meant kirk cousins

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Semi-serious, but can we just send RG3 to somewhere in Europe and pump him full of stem cells?

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[quote=mredskins;986378]Plus it is Tuesday and they are working o nit now. The injury happened Sunday.

Were they suppose to take a TV time out while Dr. James cut him open on the field?[/quote]

Yes, and they should have done it at half time.

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[quote=mredskins;986378]Plus it is Tuesday and they are working o nit now. The injury happened Sunday.

Were they suppose to take a TV time out while Dr. James cut him open on the field?[/quote]

I just can't believe all of the media attention this is getting. I'm going to take a guess that a lot of coaches would have done the same thing MS did. If your potential rookie of the year QB says he can play then he's going back out there. It backfired and both MS and RG3 will learn from this. We're not talking about Jeff George and Old Ball Coach.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;986438]Isn't that what you say every time? I think we need a Freedom of Information Act here at the Warpath![/quote]

Well maybe if Matty forked over the money for a long term contract...but nooooo, we're still locked in dead cap space over the huge deal we gave Joe Crisp back in 2005

I think the fact that we haven't heard anything yet today is a bad sign. Idk I just have a bad feeling

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;986470]I think the fact that we haven't heard anything yet today is a bad sign. Idk I just have a bad feeling[/

This all just sucks .... Really nothing left to be said. F blaming people. It is what it is now .... Just pray for the best

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[quote=skinsfaninok;986470]I think the fact that we haven't heard anything yet today is a bad sign. Idk I just have a bad feeling[/quote]

From what SS said, he wasn't even scheduled to meet with Dr. Andrews until 1:30. So given that, plus the time it takes to do the tests, then get info in the hands of the Redskins brass, then put together a press release... My guess is we still have a few hours before word gets out.

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[quote=gmscud;986475]from what ss said, he wasn't even scheduled to meet with dr. Andrews until 1:30. So given that, plus the time it takes to do the tests, then get info in the hands of the redskins brass, then put together a press release... My guess is we still have a few hours before word gets out.[/quote]

a. That's a good point

b. Where the hell have u been?? Lol

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[quote=SkinzWin;986414]They had a orthopedic surgeon on Sirius XM NFL Radio this morning who said just the contrary. If it is completely torn they can do surgery to reattach the muscle to the bone. If it is a partial tear, surgery can most likely not be done and the ACL can not repair itself due to its place on the inside of the knee, basically giving you a weakened joint until you completely tear it. The MCL and LCL which are on the outside of the knee can repair themselves with therapy and treatment. That prognosis scared me. I hope it is just his LCL and not his ACL being partially torn as previously speculated.[/quote]


I read the a big benefit to a partial tear is that your ACL has nerves in it, so keeping your own ACL allows you retain a sense of feeling in your knee you would otherwise lose if you had a complete tear/replacement. Kind of like how you hear about athletes who have trouble "completely trusting their knee", if you have a replacement ACL your brain doenst get any feed back. However, RGIII already had a replacement so i dont think this would matter?

Also heard, your ACL is made up of different parts (2 i think?), and if its a partial tear which is isolated you can replace just the part that was torn.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;986479]a. That's a good point

[B]b. Where the hell have u been??[/B] Lol[/quote]

Yeah, I know I was a ghost for basically the entire latter half of 2012. Had a lot going on personally- first really bad, then really good- that really kind of kept me away from the 'Path.

Anyhow, I'm back, and I'll be around.

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[quote=GMScud;986475]From what SS said, he wasn't even scheduled to meet with Dr. Andrews until 1:30. So given that, plus the time it takes to do the tests, then get info in the hands of the Redskins brass, then put together a press release... My guess is we still have a few hours before word gets out.[/quote]

so youre telling us that not one redskins fan decided to go into Dr. Andrews Office, sit in the lobby, and figure out what info he could gleam? Or use any sort of spy/sound localization/amplification equipment to hear whats being said behind closed doors?

BTW, glad to have you back. you've been missed.

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[quote=skinsfan69;986452][B]I just can't believe all of the media attention this is getting.[/B] I'm going to take a guess that a lot of coaches would have done the same thing MS did. If your potential rookie of the year QB says he can play then he's going back out there. It backfired and both MS and RG3 will learn from this. We're not talking about Jeff George and Old Ball Coach.[/quote]I think it's simple: people love him. He's a great kid, you can't really say anything bad about him except, perhaps, that he is fearless to a fault. Smart, driven, a sensation on and off the field in terms of character and poise. He's money. He's Showtime. He's got the "it" factor to the nth power.

And those people who love him are worried about him.

Like us.

He's going to play football again. And Gaea-willing, he will have finally learned the proper [I]respect[/I] (not fear, because I don't think his heart pumps kool-aid so he has no idea what it is) for what he faces on the field and how important he is to this franchise and will stop taking the risks he takes.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;986470]I think the fact that we haven't heard anything yet today is a bad sign. Idk I just have a bad feeling[/quote]

Were you expecting RG3 to to send out live tweets from inside the Dr. office? lol

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[quote=Mattyk;986517]Were you expecting RG3 to to send out live tweets from inside the Dr. office? lol[/quote]


I was! LOL I bet we won't hear anything until at least late tonight, maybe even tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;986517]Were you expecting RG3 to to send out live tweets from inside the Dr. office? lol[/QUOTE]

Yes! Lol

[QUOTE=GMScud;986500]Yeah, I know I was a ghost for basically the entire latter half of 2012. Had a lot going on personally- first really bad, then really good- that really kind of kept me away from the 'Path.

Anyhow, I'm back, and I'll be around.[/QUOTE]

Well hope it's all good now man. I've had my share as well lol

[QUOTE=SCRedskinsFan;986247]You're thinking waayyy too much. Between Griffin and Shanahan we won the NFC East. Stop there, and be very, very careful with the "boy" reference...[/QUOTE]

Are you serious? He is a boy. He is 22 years old. Stop trying to stir the pot. Besides Alvin Walton is 200 percent rite.

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My prayers are with RG3 and all those involved in this situation; especially his family.

I've been noticing a great deal of concern, frustration and finger pointing the last few days. All understandable under the circumstances.

However I believe the NFL has a procedural problem here that needs to be addressed sooner than later. Decisions on a players health should be in the sole hands of an independent medical team; not an athelete or a coach in the heat of 'battle'. Medical conditions should be vetted and decided by medical professionals not caught up in the warrior mentality of the moment. I hope the NFL approaches these medical issues on a league level and delivers a sound policy and procedure to protect those who should not be on the field due to medical conditions that happen as part of the game. Just my 2 cents...