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Alvin Walton 03-14-2013 02:32 PM

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I'm really wary of Pashos.

Heres a picture of his foot after surgery.

[SIZE="5"][COLOR="Red"][B]CAUTION:[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] Its kinda scary...not for the squeemish.

[url]http://www.brownsgab.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Pashos-foot.jpg[/url]

IrMitchell 03-14-2013 02:34 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;998668]I'm really wary of Pashos.

Heres a picture of his foot after surgery.

[SIZE="5"][COLOR="Red"][B]CAUTION:[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] Its kinda scary...not for the squeemish.

[url]http://www.brownsgab.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Pashos-foot.jpg[/url][/quote]
Well yes, but that's why we're paying him probably something around 900k-1 million and not 6+ million.

Good risk.

CRedskinsRule 03-14-2013 02:38 PM

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[quote=IrMitchell;998664]My money is on Pashos. When healthy in 2011, he was the 6th best OT in terms of PBE. Trent was 19th last year.. So yeah high praise for Tony.

Anyways again how does a CB depth chart of, Wilson, Crawford, Murphy suffice? Quarterbacks will have us highlighted in 6 different colors on their schedules. We'll get shredded.[/quote]

Well, you also have Minnefield, 1-2 rookies, and a 2nd tier FA. We certainly aren't going to have a defensive backfield that scares qb's, so it will be another season of shoot out games most likely. I expect it's going to be a good thing our offense likely will be scoring 27-33 points per game.

IrMitchell 03-14-2013 02:41 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;998673]Well, you also have Minnefield, 1-2 rookies, and a 2nd tier FA. We certainly aren't going to have a defensive backfield that scares qb's, so it will be another season of shoot out games most likely. I expect it's going to be a good thing our offense likely will be scoring 27-33 points per game.[/quote]
Counting on Minnifield.. That's what it's come down to I guess.

You're right and the truth is I trust our front office to pluck a couple more Richard Crawford's in the draft, but we're playing with fire if these draft picks don't work out.

I haven't even mentioned safety.

Chico23231 03-14-2013 02:49 PM

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Minnifield knee is bad. Kiem had an article in his email about the extent of it. I believe its a 2 torn acls and a microstress fracture surgery. No counting should be done with Minnifield, its only a bonus at this point.

mredskins 03-14-2013 02:50 PM

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[quote=IrMitchell;998664]My money is on Pashos. When healthy in 2011, he was the 6th best OT in terms of PBE. Trent was 19th last year.. So yeah high praise for Tony.

Anyways again how does a CB depth chart of, Wilson, Crawford, Murphy suffice? Quarterbacks will have us highlighted in 6 different colors on their schedules. We'll get shredded.[/quote]


You are right I mean Alfmo had nothing to do with our success last year. :doh:

IrMitchell 03-14-2013 02:51 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;998676]Minnifield knee is bad. Kiem had an article in his email about the extent of it. I believe its a 2 torn acls and a microstress fracture surgery. No counting should be done with Minnifield, its only a bonus at this point.[/quote]
Well that's exactly why I hesitated to say it.

We are counting on him as it stands.

IrMitchell 03-14-2013 02:52 PM

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[quote=mredskins;998677]You are right I mean Alfmo had nothing to do with our success last year. :doh:[/quote]
No actually that's not what I said, because that would be foolish.

CRedskinsRule 03-14-2013 03:24 PM

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[quote=IrMitchell;998674]Counting on Minnifield.. That's what it's come down to I guess.

You're right and the truth is I trust our front office to pluck a couple more Richard Crawford's in the draft, but we're playing with fire if these draft picks don't work out.

[B]I haven't even mentioned safety.[/B][/quote]

That's the safest way to go.

artmonkforhallofamein07 03-14-2013 04:07 PM

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[quote=IrMitchell;998674]Counting on Minnifield.. That's what it's come down to I guess.

You're right and the truth is I trust our front office to pluck a couple more Richard Crawford's in the draft, but we're playing with fire if these draft picks don't work out.

I haven't even mentioned safety.[/quote]


The FO is definately not coutning on Minnefield. A guy coming off 2 ACLs and micro fracture surgery has a lonnnnggg way to get back, and most likely will never be the same. (the micro fracture surgery being one of the biggest detriments to his career)

I posted last night, that when you have a defense ranked so poorly against the pass that we were able to keep who we could afford and filling out the rest with draft picks (remember this draft is deep at CB, S, and T). The thinking being we were 31st aginst the pass last year, we liked what we have we the rest of the team so they are priority number one. We (the FO) will fill out the defensive backfield with rookies and a 2nd tier FA here and there, and we honestly can't be much worse.

SOUL-SKINS 03-14-2013 04:12 PM

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Steven Jackson to the Falcons

Chico23231 03-14-2013 04:19 PM

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Eagles beef up secondary with Cary WIlliams and Phillips

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/258052/eagles-add-williams-phillips-to-secondary]NFL | Eagles add Williams, Phillips to secondary - Rotoworld.com[/url]

CultBrennan59 03-14-2013 04:51 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;998698]Eagles beef up secondary with Cary WIlliams and Phillips

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/258052/eagles-add-williams-phillips-to-secondary]NFL | Eagles add Williams, Phillips to secondary - Rotoworld.com[/url][/quote]

It'll be interesting to see if Cary Williams was good because of a good defense or if he good because he's good.

Kenny Phillips is good when healthy.

Dov Kleiman ‏@NFL_RealUpdates
#Eagles close to signing former #Texans OLB Connor Barwin, per @JasonLaCanfora.

Barwin is a good 34 OLB

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-14-2013 05:15 PM

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[quote=That Guy;998632]look at the FA list at nfl.com, there's like 6000 CB/DBs out there.
winfield, cason, talib, smith, arrington, etc etc.[/quote]

Sean Smith signed with Kansas City.

That Guy 03-14-2013 05:40 PM

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yeah, and barwin to philly sucks, cause he's undervalued. phillips too. dam iggles.

well, cason and winfield are my short list then i guess. talib would be fine too, but it seems like every cb is getting 5-6m/yr and well, we can't afford that.

Gtothearry 03-14-2013 05:43 PM

The Eagles can sign all the players they like & I still don't see it making a difference. Vick will be done by game 5 & Foles will not fit the scheme. Plus, I don't think Kelly will transfer over to a good NFL coach.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2013 05:51 PM

[QUOTE=That Guy;998718]yeah, and barwin to philly sucks, cause he's undervalued. phillips too. dam iggles.

well, cason and winfield are my short list then i guess. talib would be fine too, but it seems like every cb is getting 5-6m/yr and well, we can't afford that.[/QUOTE]

Barwin sucked last year.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2013 05:52 PM

[QUOTE=Gtothearry;998719]The Eagles can sign all the players they like & I still don't see it making a difference. Vick will be done by game 5 & Foles will not fit the scheme. Plus, I don't think Kelly will transfer over to a good NFL coach.[/QUOTE]

Vick is terrible and foles is bad too. Eagles always get hype but never do anything. I agree about Kelly also.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-14-2013 05:56 PM

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Eagles were owned by injuries last year. I won't be shocked at all if they compete next year.

CultBrennan59 03-14-2013 09:47 PM

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RT @RapSheet: Former #Cardinals safety Adrian Wilson is set to visit with the Patriots, according to a source. Interesting...

Rodney Harrison 2.0?

GridIron26 03-14-2013 09:50 PM

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What the heck?! Seattle just signed another DE in Bennett. I know they lost Clemons to ACL injury but signing Avril and Bennett might be overkill move?

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000150893/article/michael-bennett-seattle-seahawks-agree-to-contract]Michael Bennett, Seattle Seahawks agree to contract - NFL.com[/url]

CultBrennan59 03-14-2013 10:57 PM

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[quote=GridIron26;998771]What the heck?! Seattle just signed another DE in Bennett. I know they lost Clemons to ACL injury but signing Avril and Bennett might be overkill move?

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000150893/article/michael-bennett-seattle-seahawks-agree-to-contract]Michael Bennett, Seattle Seahawks agree to contract - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

You know whats amazing about Bennett is that he played great in his contract year!
/sarcasm

I wouldn't of touched Bennett if I were a GM; those kinds of players scare me when they just get good when they're contract is up.

The more free agents seattle brings in, the more losses they'll have.

GridIron26 03-14-2013 11:06 PM

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I agree with you but in Bennett's situation, it is one year deal so it is likely for him to play lights out this year.

Monkeydad 03-15-2013 11:26 AM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;998668]I'm really wary of Pashos.

Heres a picture of his foot after surgery.

[SIZE=5][COLOR=Red][B]CAUTION:[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] Its kinda scary...not for the squeemish.

[URL]http://www.brownsgab.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Pashos-foot.jpg[/URL][/quote]


That's not a big deal. Incisions always look bad like that. I've had both of my feet completely reconstructed (16 screws, 7 pins sticking out, 3 big incisions on the tops of each foot, all 5 metatarsals cut and screwed back together, joints removed and fused...I'm fine. I can do anything and more than I did before it. Pashos has the best rehab docs in the world compared to me having to learn how to walk on my own.

What kind of surgery did he have? It's really not bad. The bruising is normal. The discoloration is from tape and he obviously just had it unwrapped by the extra texture on his skin. The incision is really straight and well done.

That's nothing...really. Post-op pics are always worse-looking then they really are.


Cool picture actually. If we had a player surgery photo thread, I'd love it. That's not scary at all. When you look down and it's your own foot...sure, that might make you a little lightheaded, but photos are nothing.

Alvin Walton 03-15-2013 11:56 AM

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Rotoworld is reporting that Kevin Kolb has been released.
What a clustershuck that has been......

Monkeydad 03-15-2013 12:06 PM

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^Jets.

CultBrennan59 03-16-2013 10:02 AM

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4741112/whats-the-latest-on-aqib-talib]What's the latest on Aqib Talib? - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston[/url]

HTTR24-7.com ‏@HTTR24_7
Still the same pretty much.Could go thru Monday RT @g_alderdice: @HTTR24_7 any word on Talib being close with either Patriots or Redskins?

We could get Talib by Monday, but New England could re-sign him to just a 1 year prove it deal.

SFREDSKIN 03-16-2013 02:39 PM

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Poor Stallworth is just an accident prone kind of person:

@AdamSchefter: As @MikeReiss reports, @DonteStallworth involved in a hot-air balloon accident this morning in Miami. Now hospitalized. Thoughts w/ him.

skinsfaninok 03-16-2013 05:17 PM

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;999093]Poor Stallworth is just an accident prone kind of person:

@AdamSchefter: As @MikeReiss reports, @DonteStallworth involved in a hot-air balloon accident this morning in Miami. Now hospitalized. Thoughts w/ him.[/QUOTE]


Wow hope he's OK

Giantone 03-16-2013 05:49 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;998698]Eagles beef up secondary with Cary WIlliams and Phillips

[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/258052/eagles-add-williams-phillips-to-secondary"]NFL | Eagles add Williams, Phillips to secondary - Rotoworld.com[/URL][/quote]



Kenny Phillips can't last a whole season.

mlmdub130 03-16-2013 08:29 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;999040][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4741112/whats-the-latest-on-aqib-talib]What's the latest on Aqib Talib? - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston[/url]

HTTR24-7.com ‏@HTTR24_7
Still the same pretty much.Could go thru Monday RT @g_alderdice: @HTTR24_7 any word on Talib being close with either Patriots or Redskins?

We could get Talib by Monday, but New England could re-sign him to just a 1 year prove it deal.[/quote]

Edit: here's the link [url=http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=9059302&city=boston]Patriots re-sign CB Aqib Talib - ESPN[/url]

Pats resigned him for 5mil, sounds like we had a multi-year deal offered to him, but it wasn't what he was looking for. At 5mil for next year I'd pass anyways.

I'm I crazy or are the chances of resigning DHall getting more realistic by the minute?

skinsfaninok 03-16-2013 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=mlmdub130;999130]Edit: here's the link [url=http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=9059302&city=boston]Patriots re-sign CB Aqib Talib - ESPN[/url]

Pats resigned him for 5mil, sounds like we had a multi-year deal offered to him, but it wasn't what he was looking for. At 5mil for next year I'd pass anyways.

I'm I crazy or are the chances of resigning DHall getting more realistic by the minute?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Door-Still-Open-On-DeAngelo-Hall-Return/dac1a297-23c2-42f9-b7a3-8cfa4dfdbb9a[/url]

DynamiteRave 03-16-2013 08:51 PM

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[quote=mlmdub130;999130]Edit: here's the link [url=http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=9059302&city=boston]Patriots re-sign CB Aqib Talib - ESPN[/url]

Pats resigned him for 5mil, sounds like we had a multi-year deal offered to him, but it wasn't what he was looking for. At 5mil for next year I'd pass anyways.

[B]I'm I crazy or are the chances of resigning DHall getting more realistic by the minute?[/B][/quote]

It's very real. I'd remember hearing awhile back (before this cap penalty was laid on us) that he was willing to restructure if need be because he wanted to retire a Redskin.

I can't imagine the Skins at least not attempting to sign him back. The FA pool for CB's is dwindling and there's no telling what kind of pickens we'll have in the draft.

Its a safe move.

donofriose 03-16-2013 10:11 PM

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Redskins should have all the bargaining chips now with hall because it seems no one else is interested. I'm sure they are considering bringing him back because now his value might actually be close to his pay.

SFREDSKIN 03-16-2013 10:28 PM

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[quote=donofriose;999140]Redskins should have all the bargaining chips now with hall because it seems no one else is interested. I'm sure they are considering bringing him back because now his value might actually be close to his pay.[/quote]

His pay will be equal to his play. Some people were speculating he would get a couple of million a year? Let's be realistic no one is knocking on his door. Give me Winfield instead.

VegasSkinsFan 03-16-2013 10:41 PM

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;999142]His pay will be equal to his play. Some people were speculating he would get a couple of million a year? Let's be realistic no one is knocking on his door. Give me Winfield instead.[/QUOTE]

Why not both? One year deals for each or two years to stretch the cap hit.

mbedner3420 03-16-2013 11:04 PM

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Former Redskins Dante stallworth injured in hot air ballon accident. Karma? [url=http://m.clickorlando.com/news/2-injured-in-Florida-air-balloon-crash/-/16721250/19344548/-/9yqkviz/-/index.html]2 injured in Florida air balloon crash[/url]

JoeRedskin 03-16-2013 11:07 PM

But... but... I thought Hall would command $5M/year?

Honestly, I don't expect him back. Not sure we can really afford anyone this year. If Merriweather comes back and plays well, that would huge.

SkinzWin 03-17-2013 10:01 AM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;999147]But... but... I thought Hall would command $5M/year?

Honestly, I don't expect him back. Not sure we can really afford anyone this year. If Merriweather comes back and plays well, that would huge.[/quote]

Merriweather played pretty well in the short time he wasn't hurt. If he can fight off the injury bug, I think he will be a serviceable stop gap.

SCRedskinsFan 03-17-2013 10:32 AM

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[quote=SkinzWin;999166]Merriweather played pretty well in the short time he wasn't hurt. If he can fight off the injury bug, I think he will be a serviceable stop gap.[/quote]

What was Merriweather's injury history before last year's string of bad luck?


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