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[quote=RGIII;1009965]The downside is the possibility of screwing with team chemistry. Bringing in Royal at this point of the season is a Vinny Cerrato move minus the bonehead contract.

And to answer your question, if Garçon goes down, (and he did last year) Briscoe still didn't 'play' other than serve as a decoy. You guys are liking Royal to a stud fantasy player but, the truth is he's no better than Moss, Garçon, or Morgan given the same opportunities.[/quote]

If one of the receivers goes down, how is putting Royal in the game going to mess with chemistry more than putting Briscoe in? Its not like Briscoe is getting tons of reps, as you said, he didnt even play when the injuries happened. Well, then there is no chemistry to mess up when it comes to Briscoe.

If you have the opportunity to upgrade the team without a huge salary cap hit, then you do it.

This all may be a mute point anyways since there is a chance we keep 4 TE's this year. Meaning Briscoe may already be replaced by Jordan Reed.

[QUOTE=RGIII;1009965]The downside is the possibility of screwing with team chemistry. Bringing in Royal at this point of the season is a Vinny Cerrato move minus the bonehead contract.

And to answer your question, if Garçon goes down, (and he did last year) Briscoe still didn't 'play' other than serve as a decoy. You guys are liking Royal to a stud fantasy player but, the truth is he's no better than Moss, Garçon, or Morgan given the same opportunities.[/QUOTE]

VC brought in high profile names at high cost, Shanallen has brought many medium level players and let them compete, that's how you build team chemistry.

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People didn't mention this already, but Chris Russell of ESPN980 was watching practice and said/tweeted:

#Redskins observations from OTA's : Niles Paul blew past rookie safety Phillip Thomas on what looked to be a wheel route for a long gain/TD.

#Redskins observations from OTA's : Glimpse of the (near?) future - Several times, saw Amerson at RCB, Thomas/Rambo at S, R. Crawford @ LCB.

#Redskins observations from OTA's : A few times saw #Redskins use this alignment in nickel. DHall at LCB, Crawford at RCB w/ EJ Biggers-slot

#Redskins observations from OTA's - Rookies David Amerson and Bacarri Rambo each had a INT against Rex Grossman. Rambo was at FS for his.

#Redskins observations from OTA's : After throwing two straight picks, Rex dialed up a long ball to Aldrick Robinson beating Amerson/Gomes.

#Redskins observations from OTA's - RB Jawan Jamison had a nice "2nd level wiggle" on 1 run (@John_Keim) & did nice job in pass pro mirror.
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So what I gather from that (of course its way to early to start coming to conclusions)

- Amerson is looking just like he did in college: great coverage one play, beat the next.

- Phillip Thomas is getting burned by Niles Paul. Not helping his case with me saying he doesn't have the speed to play in the NFL.

- Rambo looking like a good/great pick (as a lot of us had thought and hoped)

- Skins are using Biggers at the Slot, although I read (I think in PFF) that he is a lot better outside than in the slot. Interesting.

- Jawan Jamison getting attention already. I can think back to this time last year and Chris Russell was saying noticeable things about a guy named Alfred Morris.. I could easily see him & Thompson both on the roster and Royster and Helu gone.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1009975]People didn't mention this already, but Chris Russell of ESPN980 was watching practice and said/tweeted:

#Redskins observations from OTA's : Niles Paul blew past rookie safety Phillip Thomas on what looked to be a wheel route for a long gain/TD.

#Redskins observations from OTA's : Glimpse of the (near?) future - Several times, saw Amerson at RCB, Thomas/Rambo at S, R. Crawford @ LCB.

#Redskins observations from OTA's : A few times saw #Redskins use this alignment in nickel. DHall at LCB, Crawford at RCB w/ EJ Biggers-slot

#Redskins observations from OTA's - Rookies David Amerson and Bacarri Rambo each had a INT against Rex Grossman. Rambo was at FS for his.

#Redskins observations from OTA's : After throwing two straight picks, Rex dialed up a long ball to Aldrick Robinson beating Amerson/Gomes.

#Redskins observations from OTA's - RB Jawan Jamison had a nice "2nd level wiggle" on 1 run (@John_Keim) & did nice job in pass pro mirror.
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So what I gather from that (of course its way to early to start coming to conclusions)

- Amerson is looking just like he did in college: great coverage one play, beat the next.

- [B]Phillip Thomas is getting burned by Niles Paul. Not helping his case with me saying he doesn't have the speed to play in the NFL.[/B]

- Rambo looking like a good/great pick (as a lot of us had thought and hoped)

- Skins are using Biggers at the Slot, although I read (I think in PFF) that he is a lot better outside than in the slot. Interesting.

- Jawan Jamison getting attention already. I can think back to this time last year and Chris Russell was saying noticeable things about a guy named Alfred Morris.. I could easily see him & Thompson both on the roster and Royster and Helu gone.[/quote]

Even though Niles Paul runs a 4.5. Yeah one play in practice isn't gonna tell me that he doesn't have the "speed" to play in the NFL.

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[quote=RGIII;1009965][B]The downside is the possibility of screwing with team chemistry. Bringing in Royal at this point of the season is a Vinny Cerrato move minus the bonehead contract.
[/B]
And to answer your question, if Garçon goes down, (and he did last year) Briscoe still didn't 'play' other than serve as a decoy. You guys are liking Royal to a stud fantasy player but, the truth is he's no better than Moss, Garçon, or Morgan given the same opportunities.[/quote]

Well that was a pretty out there statement.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1009976]Even though Niles Paul runs a 4.5. Yeah one play in practice isn't gonna tell me that he doesn't have the "speed" to play in the NFL.[/quote]

Like I said its just something to keep note of/see how he does during training camp. And a lot of the scouting reports said that he is good at covering the slot, so Niles running a 4.5 is a moot point, being that Phillip is supposed/expected to cover guys just as fast, if not faster.

Hopefully I can look back at this in a month and say "Yeah he really improved" and not "well, kind of saw this coming"

Let's wait until the real games begin. Then we'll see

I think the first hand twitter observations were cool. thanks for posting those. I doubt you can draw any conclusions or speculations though, because this early on coaches are going to be shuffling combinations just to have tape to review, and being that the rookies are hardly out of college it would be odd to me if there college strengths and weaknesses weren't highlighted so coaches can show and coach these guys. its not like just putting on an nfl uniform suddenly makes players change there tendencies.

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To the Niles Paul blowing past Philip Thomas statement. Sounds more like Thomas misread the play. Paul runs a 4.5, Thomas runs in the 4.6-4.7 range. Sounds like he expected a short pattern and planted his feet. If it happens all the time, I see the point. But once in OTA's isnt exactly the end of his career.

Troy Polamalu does not have very good top end speed. He just understands angles and has the instincts to be moving in the right direction before he should be. The best safeties arent necessarily the fastest ones, its the ones who have the best instincts. Even Troy and Ed Reed have been burned before.

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[quote=Skinzman;1009985]The best safeties arent necessarily the fastest ones, its the ones who have the best instincts. Even Troy and Ed Reed have been burned before.[/quote]

Agreed. The safety can be 15-20 yards back from scrimmage. The 4.5 receiver runs 20 yards forward, and safety runs 5-10-15 to meet the receiver (with good angles). They still need speed, but they're not starting from the same point on the field -- so angles / instincts are more important.

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Must be the offseason if people are making a big deal over some one getting burned by a wheel route during practice, which getting burned by a wheel route has nothing to do with speed.

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Any word on (ILB ) K. Robinson , Helu , (SS ) Bernstien ? Has the team or coaches said anything regarding C. Minnifield doing any running ect .? HAIL SKINS 2013 !

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[quote=budw38;1010071]Any word on (ILB ) K. Robinson , Helu , (SS ) Bernstien ? Has the team or coaches said anything regarding C. Minnifield doing any running ect .? HAIL SKINS 2013 ![/quote]

I believe Bernstien and Robinson are out until camp rehabing. Helu was at least stretching and running with the team on some of the video. No clue about Minnifield.

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[quote=budw38;1010071]Any word on (ILB ) K. Robinson , Helu , (SS ) Bernstien ? Has the team or coaches said anything regarding C. Minnifield doing any running ect .? HAIL SKINS 2013 ![/quote]
I heard Minnifield was out there with the rehab guys on the side, so was Robinson. I think they said the only players not on the field were Carricker and Bernstien. It made me wonder whats going on with Minnifield, its basically been about a year since the injury and he still cant practice. Not good.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1010078]I heard Minnifield was out there with the rehab guys on the side, so was Robinson. I think they said the only players not on the field were Carricker and Bernstien. It made me wonder whats going on with Minnifield, its basically been about a year since the injury and he still cant practice. Not good.[/quote]
I would like to see Chase healthy , maybe IR / PS this year ? Looks like J. Wilson played most of last year with a shoulder that required surgery . Some notes / stories here .... [url=http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/]Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url].

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Can't continue to wait on Minnifield. He wasn't a high draft pick no matter how promising he seems to be.

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I believe that this team's success hinges on RGIII finishing the year. With a front seven that was stout against the run without Carriker and Orakpo, and adding some secondary players who can put the ball back into the offense's hands; this is a recipe for a championship team. The turnover margin should be favorably lopsided as well as points. It seems like teams that get hot towards the end and get star players back from injury later in the season are the ones who push for a run deep into the playoffs.

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[quote=budw38;1010071]Any word on (ILB ) K. Robinson , Helu , (SS ) Bernstien ? Has the team or coaches said anything regarding C. Minnifield doing any running ect .? HAIL SKINS 2013 ![/quote]

Robinson was spotted carrying Dez Bryant's jock strap around Cowboys stadium last week

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[quote=The Goat;1010137]Robinson was spotted carrying Dez Bryant's jock strap around Cowboys stadium last week[/quote]

lol. cant let it go. I think Jabar was seen carrying Garcon's.

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Never knew Baccari Rambo and Phillip Daniels are related.

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[quote=Chico23231;1010159]lol. [B]cant let it go[/B]. I think Jabar was seen carrying Garcon's.[/quote]

Did you expect anything different?

Besides, so many rookie ILB's stuck to Bryant like glue last year, why shouldn't we expect the same of Robinson. Fourth round pick? Didn't he see Morris? No excuses short of instant stardom Robinson! Cut his ass.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1010161]Never knew Baccari Rambo and Phillip Daniels are related.[/quote]

Really? Are they cousins?

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1010164]Really? Are they cousins?[/quote]

P. Daniels married into his family

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1010164]Really? Are they cousins?[/quote]

Daniels married Rambos cousin (what mbedner said)

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I think Eli Manning married his cousin.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1010176]I think Eli Manning married his cousin.[/quote]

LMAO, well she is a good looking cousin, I'll give him that!

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1010176]I think Eli Manning married his cousin.[/quote]



She is hot!


[IMG]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSapX3t8SZleANViQ2Q0YHJ1fo7WfqCo5MJz3TesmS0diqm-qln7w[/IMG]

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[quote=Giantone;1010184]She is hot!


[IMG]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSapX3t8SZleANViQ2Q0YHJ1fo7WfqCo5MJz3TesmS0diqm-qln7w[/IMG][/quote]

That's really great of her to dedicate her life to a mentally challenged fellow.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1010190]That's really great of her to dedicate her life to a mentally challenged fellow.[/quote]


A rich one at that!!!

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I am bucs fan, how are you guys liking Raheem morris?

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[quote=CarrollsCove;1010205]I am bucs fan, how are you guys liking Raheem morris?[/quote]

I think he's been good. He's turned lemons into, well, less shitty lemons....

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/29/shanahan-brings-larry-coyer-on-board-as-a-scout/]Shanahan brings Larry Coyer on board as a scout | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1010159]lol. cant let it go. I think [B]Jabar[/B] was seen carrying Garcon's.[/quote]

Isn't he in jail?

...was seen carrying the soap two-handed

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[quote=mbedner3420;1010190]That's really great of her to dedicate her life to a mentally challenged fellow.[/quote]

:laughing2

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[quote=Mattyk;1010288][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/29/shanahan-brings-larry-coyer-on-board-as-a-scout/]Shanahan brings Larry Coyer on board as a scout | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Took PFT long enough

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/52496-official-redskins-off-season-news-rumors-3.html#post1009912[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;1010303]Took PFT long enough

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/52496-official-redskins-off-season-news-rumors-3.html#post1009912[/url][/quote]

I saw you already posted it, just a slow day figured it was worth a re-post

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[quote=Mattyk;1010308]I saw you already posted it, just a slow day figured it was worth a re-post[/quote]

Slow weeks. Preseason can't come soon enough

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[quote=SmootSmack;1010313]Slow weeks. Preseason can't come soon enough[/quote]

Seriously.

Article after article on RG3's knee or the team name is mind numbing.

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[quote=Mattyk;1010315]Seriously.

Article after article on RG3's knee or the team name is mind numbing.[/quote]

I'm getting pretty tired of hearing about the team name stuff.

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[SIZE="4"]I HATE THIS PART OF THE OFFSEASON!![/SIZE]

Just saying ...