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[quote=diehardskin2982;1060428]Panthers have cap issues. Hardy wants a similar deal to what Charles Johnson got last year 6 years $76 mil. They can't afford both free agents, let alone both D-ends. To franchise Hardy it would cost $12 mil. Panthers also have 19 other players eligible for free agency.

Panthers have only $15 mil in cap space.[/quote]

Thanks, that's good to know. Maybe Hardy or Mitchell will become free.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1060428]Panthers have cap issues. Hardy wants a similar deal to what Charles Johnson got last year 6 years $76 mil. They can't afford both free agents, let alone both D-ends. To franchise Hardy it would cost $12 mil. Panthers also have 19 other players eligible for free agency.

Panthers have only $15 mil in cap space.[/quote]

I hope you're right, and we do get a shot at signing Mitchell. I would much rather sign him than spend a draft pick on a safety.

On a different note, your new avatar is hilarious. :joecool: If Gruden turns out to be the new Zorn, though, I'm going to blame you.

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Captain Munnerlyn would be a good target. He'd make a fine nickel back and return man....or could push Amerson in camp for the starter spot.

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Munnerlin would be a good signing.

If Carolina has a choice to let either Hardy or Mitchel walk it's going to be Hardy. So I think Mitchel is not going to hit the market but Hardy will. They already have big money wrappe up in DEs, the likelyhood of signing another is low. Where as safety would create a bigger need for them.

Still like te idea of Captain Munnerlin though, and I would imagine he will be available.

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A lot cheaper than Talib too.

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[url=http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2014/2/25/5447226/falcons-to-release-thomas-decoud-by-march-15-per-adam-caplan]Falcons To Release Thomas DeCoud By March 15, Per Adam Caplan - The Falcoholic[/url]

Worth pursuing? SirLK26 says no.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1060428]Panthers have cap issues. Hardy wants a similar deal to what Charles Johnson got last year 6 years $76 mil. They can't afford both free agents, let alone both D-ends. To franchise Hardy it would cost $12 mil. Panthers also have 19 other players eligible for free agency.

[B][U]Panthers have only $15 mil in cap space.[/U][/B][/quote]

Not anymore. Try $29 million in cap space.

[quote]The Panthers are approximately $29 million under the projected cap of $132 million and could be clearing room to re-sign or put a franchise tag on free-agent defensive end Greg Hardy.[/quote]


[url=http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/02/24/4721770/thomas-davis-restructuring-give.html#.Uw0k94WmaYn]Restructuring veteran trio’s contracts gives Carolina Panthers $7.25 million in cap space | CharlotteObserver.com[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;1060412]You'd be foolish to pay big time money for a guy to play a different role in a different defensive scheme. People, you can't just plug players in a slot and expect the same results. You'd think you'd know that after the Adam Archuleta deal. Buying a square piece and smashing him into a round hole.

Hardy benefits from having a tremendous D-line.[/quote]

Hopefully the whole practice of signing 4-3 players for our 3-4 defense went away with Shanny.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1060536]Not anymore. Try $29 million in cap space.

[url=http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/02/24/4721770/thomas-davis-restructuring-give.html#.Uw0k94WmaYn]Restructuring veteran trio’s contracts gives Carolina Panthers $7.25 million in cap space | CharlotteObserver.com[/url][/quote]

If I were the Panthers' GM, I wouldn't let Hardy get away, either. But it remains to be seen what they'll do with the Hardy and Mitchell contracts. If they have to franchise tag Hardy, then we might still have a chance of signing Mitchell.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060491]Captain Munnerlyn would be a good target. He'd make a fine nickel back and return man....or could push Amerson in camp for the starter spot.[/quote]

If Captain Munnerlyn were so good he'd be a Major by now. :cheeky:

p.s. My apologies for the bad joke. I couldn't help it because I've been waiting a while for the opportunity to say that.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1060583]If Captain Munnerlyn were so good he'd be a Major by now. :cheeky:

p.s. My apologies for the bad joke. I couldn't help it because I've been waiting a while for the opportunity to say that.[/quote]

Should of waited longer. LOL

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question to skins nation ,is eric winston a free agent this year? b,c if he is we might be able to sign him for a very afforable contract , and he is still one of the better rt tackles in the league..

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If he becomes available I would wonder what is his issue? Good lineman don't just leave teams... Eric is on his third team in 3 years, heading to free agency. Is he a head-case? what is the deal?

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1060583]If Captain Munnerlyn were so good he'd be a Major by now. :cheeky:

p.s. My apologies for the bad joke. I couldn't help it because I've been waiting a while for the opportunity to say that.[/quote]


I bet you had some good ones for Major Applewhite back in the day.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1060595]If he becomes available I would wonder what is his issue? Good lineman don't just leave teams... Eric is on his third team in 3 years, heading to free agency. Is he a head-case? what is the deal?[/quote]

His price tag could be the problem.

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Not sure where to put this one ...

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10492337/terrell-owens-says-play-age-40]Terrell Owens says he can still play at age 40 - ESPN[/url]

Go away - all the popcorn has been eaten and no one is your quarterback.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1060621]Not sure where to put this one ...

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10492337/terrell-owens-says-play-age-40]Terrell Owens says he can still play at age 40 - ESPN[/url]

Go away - all the popcorn has been eaten and no one is your quarterback.[/quote]

Sign him for vet min. :)

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Sure, let him try out. You can't deny his work ethic.

I doubt he'd make it but hey, let him prove he's done.

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Browns just released D'Qwell Jackson...... interesting.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;1060626]Browns just released D'Qwell Jackson...... interesting.[/quote]

he would be a great addition, he has averaged 130 tackles the last 3 years .... say bye to Perry

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Keep Riley too.


Jackson is 30...if we could only pick one I'd take Perry, he'll be here longer.


News from Pennsylvania:

Eagles just paid the always-injured, 32-YO Jason Peters $41 million over 4 years, $20 million guaranteed. He celebrated by having finger surgery. (not a joke...true)

He's good when healthy but that seems like a lot to pay him.

Jets and Raiders interested in Vick.

Either Maclin or Cooper will leave, only one will stay. Avant is not expected to re-sign.

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Id like D'qwell for a modest price and the terp connection.

id also like either henderson brother.

All 3 are kinda long in the tooth though ....

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DQ is still good. I don't know that we make that move, but i wouldn't knock it.

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Jackson is better then Riley.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;1060626]Browns just released D'Qwell Jackson...... interesting.[/quote]

This should kill the Cousins to the Browns rumors. We would have gladly taken D'Qwell for Kirk. Cleveland obviously doesn't want our backup QB.

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^^ Huh? We would? You know that trade negotiations were on-going how? "Obviously"?Just 'cause you may made that trade doesn't mean it was something anyone in the FO would have considered.

Not saying there is a likely trade, just that cutting Jackson has absolutely no bearing on it. None. Zippo. Not even a tiny pea in a nice big pot's chance.

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You'd think a lawyer would be a good sarcasm detector.

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DQJ would be nice.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060654]You'd think a lawyer would be a good sarcasm detector.[/quote]

If it is sarcasm if there's any doubt people might get the joke you should generally include a sarcasm tag. On this board so much wtf stuff gets said everyday that it can be hard to tell when someone's joking.

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I know we are a 3-4-4 but for some reason I have a feeling we will be playing a bit of 2-5-4 just my opinion.

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I'd rather commit to Riley at 25 than Jackson at 30.

Why does it have to be a choice? Last I checked we could use another inside backer.

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[quote=Mattyk;1060660]I'd rather commit to Riley at 25 than Jackson at 30.

Why does it have to be a choice? Last I checked we could use another inside backer.[/quote]

Yeah, I don't get the Jackson vs. Riley argument. We would need both.

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It would look nice ILB's - Riley, Robinson (if he can stay healthy), Jackson & Yawin Smallwood (I know he has to be drafted). What do you think?

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I want Perry Riley as target A and then draft Skov but if Riley demands too much we could go with DQJ and Spikes in the middle.

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Jackson should cost a lot less than Riley, and probably sign a 2 or 3 year contract. I do not want Riley back at any price, draft someone, or sign a free agent.

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O-Line---Michael Oher/Alex Mack/Wade Smith ?

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I don't understand why some are so willing to let Riley walk. Yeah the price has to be right, but here is a solid guy, who we drafted, has done everything asked, and been at the least solid.

He, to me, is the very definition "keeping our own".

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[quote=Irrefutable;1060665]Jackson should cost a lot less than Riley, and probably sign a 2 or 3 year contract. I do not want Riley back at any price, draft someone, or sign a free agent.[/quote]

You know what? You are refutable. Riley is a good player and he's getting better.

I wouldn't mind picking up Jackson, though.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1060669]I don't understand why some are so willing to let Riley walk. Yeah the price has to be right, but here is a solid guy, who we drafted, has done everything asked, and been at the least solid.

He, to me, is the very definition "keeping our own".[/quote]

agree.....on top of one of the most fastest ILB in the NFL who can cover TEs

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1060669]I don't understand why some are so willing to let Riley walk. Yeah the price has to be right, but here is a solid guy, who we drafted, has done everything asked, and been at the least solid.

He, to me, is the very definition "keeping our own".[/quote]

Don't get it either.

People preach about developing our own talent, but then always have their eyes on everyone else's talent.

Doesn't make much sense to me to let a 25 year old LB who has played well in our system walk.