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Don't get me started on Schlereth. Extremely arrogant, Rarely considers opinions that are not his own. And he doesn't pass the ball on the basketball court

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[quote=SmootSmack;1067744]Don't get me started on Schlereth. Extremely arrogant, Rarely considers opinions that are not his own. And he doesn't pass the ball on the basketball court[/quote]

Comes across on TV as arrogant and condescending. He's like the fat version of Sean Salisbury.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1067744]Don't get me started on Schlereth. Extremely arrogant, Rarely considers opinions that are not his own. And he doesn't pass the ball on the basketball court[/quote]

That last one pisses me of not passing the basketball.

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[quote=Paintrain;1067746]Comes across on TV as arrogant and condescending. He's like the fat version of Sean Salisbury.[/quote]

Salisbury's actually pretty decent from the little I interacted with him.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1067747]That last one pisses me of not passing the basketball.[/quote]

Nothing worse than a gunner

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a few people keep mentioning to me that we're going to get into cap hell w deals like jackson's.

remember when we had to restructure several deals each off season to get under the cap? did we restructure any in 2014?

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[quote=los panda;1067750]a few people keep mentioning to me that we're going to get into cap hell w deals like jackson's.

remember when we had to restructure several deals each off season to get under the cap? did we restructure any in 2014?[/quote]

Not yet.

It's not BA's style. He doesn't like to push $$ down the road if he doesn't have to.

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[quote=Mattyk;1067751]Not yet.

It's not BA's style. He doesn't like to push $$ down the road if he doesn't have to.[/quote]it's amazing how closely we resemble a competent football team.

wait a minute

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[quote=los panda;1067750]a few people keep mentioning to me that we're going to get into cap hell w deals like jackson's.

remember when we had to restructure several deals each off season to get under the cap? did we restructure any in 2014?[/quote]

They're wrong. On Jackson's deal specifically, it's a 3 year deal but only two years are a real commitment. We could cut him after year 2 and generate a lot of savings on the 3rd season. Or if he works out real well, keep him. The signing bonus was low, so there's not a lot of dead money risk.

As for the Redskins' long term cap situation, there's oodles of room there that will allow them to extend RG3, Orakpo, Trent, Kerrigan and Morris if they so choose.

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Jay Gruden said on NFL Radio yesterday that the team is pretty much done in free agency.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/04/08/jay-gruden-on-desean-jackson-wow/]Jay Gruden on DeSean Jackson: ‘Wow’[/url]

Is it time for a new poll grading the offseason and front office?

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[quote=Mattyk;1067751]Not yet.

It's not BA's style. He doesn't like to push $$ down the road if he doesn't have to.[/quote]

I'd be surprised if we don't see some restructures in the next couple of months

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[quote=Paintrain;1067754]Jay Gruden said on NFL Radio yesterday that the team is pretty much done in free agency.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/04/08/jay-gruden-on-desean-jackson-wow/]Jay Gruden on DeSean Jackson: ‘Wow’[/url]

Is it time for a new poll grading the offseason and front office?[/quote]

Don't want to wait for the draft?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1067757]Don't want to wait for the draft?[/quote]

Yeah, I guess might as well. What's 4 more weeks, right?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1067756]I'd be surprised if we don't see some restructures in the next couple of months[/quote]bowen? garcon? cofield?

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[quote=Mattyk;1067734]So I guess some people are getting all bent over DJ posting vacation pics on Twitter while the team is working out. Is this really a big deal? He had a pre-planned vacation and was properly excused from "voluntary" workouts, so I guess according to some people the guy needs to go into hiding.[/quote]

I'm with you. Although I've been as critical of DJax as anyone here, there is nothing wrong with taking a pre-planned vacay.

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Jackson posting pics with his shirt off on a beach, while his teammates are working out isn't the smartest thing to do. Especially after all the bad press he got. Just should've laid low but really not a big deal.

As far as Griffin goes, he just doesn't seem to understand that whatever he does it's going to cause a media firestorm. Especially after the team did so poorly. I know the guy works hard, but he just can't help himself when it comes to being a media whore. He just can't seem to leave it alone and be quiet.

I guess it a generation thing with these guys posting pics of themselves and doing all the social media stuff. I guess it's a way to connect with the fans. It's not just football players but a lot of people in entertainment. I just put myself in those shoes and would never ever do that stuff. I guess it's just a privacy thing.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1067773]Jackson posting pics with his shirt off on a beach, while his teammates are working out isn't the smartest thing to do. Especially after all the bad press he got. Just should've laid low but really not a big deal.

As far as Griffin goes, he just doesn't seem to understand that whatever he does it's going to cause a media firestorm. Especially after the team did so poorly. I know the guy works hard, but he just can't help himself when it comes to being a media whore. He just can't seem to leave it alone and be quiet.

I guess it a generation thing with these guys posting pics of themselves and doing all the social media stuff. I guess it's a way to connect with the fans. It's not just football players but a lot of people in entertainment. I just put myself in those shoes and would never ever do that stuff. I guess it's just a privacy thing.[/quote]
Both topics get a super sized cup of 'eh' from me. Neither have a thing to do with whether or not we win games in the fall. Gives the talking heads something to flap their lips about but really they are completely irrelevant.

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I know it's hard to believe but players do have lives off the field.

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It's not about having a life off the field. Everyone should have a life, go out and enjoy themselves cause you've worked hard to get where you're at. But it's the constant need for attention for some of these guys that I just can't understand.

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Wow, who cares if the guy posted a picture of himself while on vacation?

I would.

If I had just been fired from an employer just before a pre planned vacation, and I had landed a job prior to leaving (and was making a lateral salary move), but still had the vacation planned I would request to be able to start after the vacation just like Jackson did.

Who else here would make the same decision?

This is not a me move by any means. Who cares? He'll be there Monday.

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[quote=Mattyk;1067780]I know it's hard to believe but players do have lives off the field.[/quote]



LOL no they better not! This is prison

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I posted a picture of myself on a beach with my shirt off and I didnt get any attention.
WTF?

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1067748]Salisbury's actually pretty decent from the little I interacted with him.[/QUOTE]


I was a big fan.
Edit: Schlereth sucks though. Lol

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1067734]So I guess some people are getting all bent over DJ posting vacation pics on Twitter while the team is working out. Is this really a big deal? He had a pre-planned vacation and was properly excused from "voluntary" workouts, so I guess according to some people the guy needs to go into hiding.[/QUOTE]


I hate people. I mean thats really what shit is starting to boil down to. Lol. I hope he posts every effin thing he does. Good for him.
Edit: he also planned and paid for this vacation thinking he was going to be an Eagle and I believe they are not having workouts this week? If he comes back from vacation 75 pounds overweight running a 4.9 40 than we can complain.

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Don't care what he does as long as he produces.

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[quote=Mattyk;1067780]I know it's hard to believe but players do have lives off the field.[/quote]

It seems like most ordinary people hold professional athletes, or celebrities in general, to a higher standard than they hold themselves or their peers to. I think all the people who are making something out of nothing with this deal would do the very same thing in Jackson's shoes. Another example is the Riley Cooper situation; lots of people couldn't figure out why the Eagles' FO resigned a guy who yelled a racial slur...just one incident, while drunk, and there are people who think he should be out of a job for that? Seems a bit unfair, if you ask me.

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[quote=SirLK26;1067856]It seems like most ordinary people hold professional athletes, or celebrities in general, to a higher standard than they hold themselves or their peers to. I think all the people who are making something out of nothing with this deal would do the very same thing in Jackson's shoes. Another example is the Riley Cooper situation; lots of people couldn't figure out why the Eagles' FO resigned a guy who yelled a racial slur...[B]just one incident, while drunk, and there are people who think he should be out of a job for that? [/B]Seems a bit unfair, if you ask me.[/quote]

"Ordinary people" who are not in near the spotlight as athletes and celebrities have been fired for much less. Public intoxication could have been enough for 'ordinary people', not to mention the subsequent actions.

Way too many fans care far too much about what players/celebs do on their free time.

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For the fans out there that question why athletes aren't studying film or working on their game 24/7 I ask this... with your free time are you constantly working on improving at your job? Why not? Shouldn't you also be giving up all your free time to bettering yourself for your employer?

I've never understood why fans have these completely insane expectations of athletes, like they're not allowed to take vacations, have a Facebook or Twitter account, or god forbid have any sort of life outside of football, especially during the offseason.

F'ing nuts I tell ya.

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it's because we as fans are greedy... we want our tem to do the best so we feel great, and rub it in all the haters faces and our friends family and co-works who like other teams , or dallas or philly... AND ... the BIGGEST reason IMO ... the insane amount of money these players get paid, to play the game. LMAO...

If I was even making VET MIN... bet ur ass i'm focusing on work a helllllllllll of a lot more.

but I don't, I work friggin 60 hour weeks as it is.. get calls emails and texts at home at night .... travel away for business a lot... and avg like 65-70 a year.. I put in a lot of work

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but I do agree, everybody deserves to relax and have fun sometimes. I have no problem with it.

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[quote=Paintrain;1067861]"Ordinary people" who are not in near the spotlight as athletes and celebrities have been fired for much less. Public intoxication could have been enough for 'ordinary people', not to mention the subsequent actions.

Way too many fans care far too much about what players/celebs do on their free time.[/quote]

Okay, so Cooper was a bad example of what I was trying to say. But my point still stands.

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[quote=Mattyk;1067862]For the fans out there that question why athletes aren't studying film or working on their game 24/7 I ask this... with your free time are you constantly working on improving at your job? Why not? Shouldn't you also be giving up all your free time to bettering yourself for your employer?

I've never understood why fans have these completely insane expectations of athletes, like they're not allowed to take vacations, have a Facebook or Twitter account, or god forbid have any sort of life outside of football, especially during the offseason.

F'ing nuts I tell ya.[/quote]

Everyone knows that Griffin works his ass off. You're missing the point. After all the stuff that he went through last year, some of it self imposed, why come out with a logo of yourself? SMH..I would've just told Adidas.."now's simply not the time for that".. The team did poorly, so did he, now's not the a good time to do it. The minute he has a bad game, you know it's going to come back on him. That's all I'm saying. I don't know of any fans that don't expect players not have a good time. Who's saying that?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1067866]Everyone knows that Griffin works his ass off. You're missing the point. After all the stuff that he went through last year, some of it self imposed, why come out with a logo of yourself? SMH..I would've just told Adidas.."now's simply not the time for that".. The team did poorly, so did he, now's not the a good time to do it. The minute he has a bad game, you know it's going to come back on him. That's all I'm saying. I don't know of any fans that don't expect players not have a good time. Who's saying that?[/quote]

He has a contract with Adidas. The logo was made by Adidas. So he's probably going to push some Adidas wear with the logo. It's really no different than him pimping his jersey or saying Subway gives him good juju vibes.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1067866]Everyone knows that Griffin works his ass off. You're missing the point. After all the stuff that he went through last year, some of it self imposed, why come out with a logo of yourself? SMH..I would've just told Adidas.."now's simply not the time for that".. The team did poorly, so did he, now's not the a good time to do it. The minute he has a bad game, you know it's going to come back on him. That's all I'm saying. I don't know of any fans that don't expect players not have a good time. Who's saying that?[/quote]

I'm talking mostly about Jackson.

As for Griffin he's not sitting around drawing up logos and he probably didn't come up with the idea to have a logo in the first place. It's just part of his ad deal with Adidas. I'm sure he just signed off on it and it took all 5 minutes to upload it to instagram and promote it on social media, again just part of his ad deal. Who f'ing cares.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1067866]Everyone knows that Griffin works his ass off. You're missing the point. After all the stuff that he went through last year, some of it self imposed, why come out with a logo of yourself? SMH..I would've just told Adidas.."now's simply not the time for that".. The team did poorly, so did he, now's not the a good time to do it. The minute he has a bad game, you know it's going to come back on him. That's all I'm saying. I don't know of any fans that don't expect players not have a good time. Who's saying that?[/quote]

Its not like he missed practices to design a logo for himself. Adidas has people who do those logo's, all he does is say ok. Whether he does good or bad, the logo will have no bearing on it. If he has a bad year, nothing would change if he didnt have the logo, he would still have a bad year.

The fact that people think a logo has anything to do with performance just means people are stupid. Its not any athletes fault that people are so brainless to make a connection that doesnt exist.

People seem to forget that RG3 was the second pick. He is going to be massively criticized if he fails with or without a logo or commercials. People still talk about Ryan Leaf, and he never had a ton of picks traded for him (which, of course, RG3 had no control of). Might as well make the money since its going to happen regardless of what actions he does.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/6803/quick-takes-rg-iii-logo-and-more]Quick takes: RG III logo and more - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

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I have a question for those worried about Desean Jackson coming back in a year wanting more money (Lotus, this is in your ballpark :) ).

I know he has done that in the past, but it was with a different organization, and more to my question/point here, a different owner.

One of my arguments why Snyder is a good owner, is he's willing to pay for the talent on his team. Yes he has relied on bad advisors in the past but if a coach and player both were on board with a player, seems like making the money part work isn't the issue.

So my question/thought is - Is it fair to assume that a guy who always wanted money will have those same feelings from a Dan Snyder owned team? I know we aren't going to just restructure to make every player happy on a whim, but have we ever had a player who felt that he was treated badly by this organization?

The examples of players feeling they were treated bad that would come to my mind were Clark, Arrington, Rogers. But every one of those was a case where a coach muddied the waters or like in Rogers case went out of his way to make Rogers miserable (imo)

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1067862]For the fans out there that question why athletes aren't studying film or working on their game 24/7 I ask this... with your free time are you constantly working on improving at your job? Why not? Shouldn't you also be giving up all your free time to bettering yourself for your employer?



I've never understood why fans have these completely insane expectations of athletes, like they're not allowed to take vacations, have a Facebook or Twitter account, or god forbid have any sort of life outside of football, especially during the offseason.



F'ing nuts I tell ya.[/QUOTE]


Well actually Matty I am spending my day off role playing sales techniques with my family while refreshing myself with the company compliance handbook.
Im going to study well into the night to make up for my time perusing the Warpath.

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I think w/ Jackson, it's really no big deal. Personally, if I were starting with a new company and wanted to get off on the right foot, I would cancel the vacation and come in, but that's me. Now if he misses a OTA or mini camp then that's when it should be a story. Missing a week of workouts is non issue.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1067880]I have a question for those worried about Desean Jackson coming back in a year wanting more money (Lotus, this is in your ballpark :) ).

I know he has done that in the past, but it was with a different organization, and more to my question/point here, a different owner.

One of my arguments why Snyder is a good owner, is he's willing to pay for the talent on his team. Yes he has relied on bad advisors in the past but if a coach and player both were on board with a player, seems like making the money part work isn't the issue.

So my question/thought is - Is it fair to assume that a guy who always wanted money will have those same feelings from a Dan Snyder owned team? I know we aren't going to just restructure to make every player happy on a whim, but have we ever had a player who felt that he was treated badly by this organization?

The examples of players feeling they were treated bad that would come to my mind were Clark, Arrington, Rogers. But every one of those was a case where a coach muddied the waters or like in Rogers case went out of his way to make Rogers miserable (imo)[/quote]

I think about your question from a different angle: my understanding is that we have had a rep of, "If you wanna get paid, go to Washington." Maybe that rep has changed. But if we do have that rep, I would expect DJax to put that rep to the test to the maximum of his ability. But who knows what he will do.