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[quote=skinsfan69;1072313]already tired of michael sam.[/quote]

+100.

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[quote=Chico23231;1072306][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10937348/player-st-louis-rams-says-michael-sam-show-potential-distraction]Player on St. Louis Rams says Michael Sam show a potential distraction - ESPN[/url]

not a fan of this move. reality show on oprah network? wack as f*ck[/quote]


If I were Snead, I'd go to him or his agent and tell him to kill the show. If he didn't, I'd cut him. Nobody wants this kind of circus at their training camps. Especially not one from a 7th rounder, who'll be fighting just to make the roster. It's simply not worth it.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1072323]If I were Snead, I'd go to him or his agent and tell him to kill the show. If he didn't, I'd cut him. Nobody wants this kind of circus at their training camps. Especially not one from a 7th rounder, who'll be fighting just to make the roster. It's simply not worth it.[/quote]

Goodall wouldn't let that happen

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[quote=NC_Skins;1072323]If I were Snead, I'd go to him or his agent and tell him to kill the show. If he didn't, I'd cut him. Nobody wants this kind of circus at their training camps. Especially not one from a 7th rounder, who'll be fighting just to make the roster. It's simply not worth it.[/quote]

If they cut Sam before training camp, that means they're being anti-gay. <sarc>

I think that whatever kind of circus he brings to the team actually is worth it, at least to Stan Kroenke. Sam's jersey is the 2nd best seller among rookies.

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Jeff may regret his pick............

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It's always the quiet ones
[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24563900/former-nfl-wr-reche-caldwell-arrested-with-48-pounds-of-ecstasy]Former NFL WR Reche Caldwell arrested with 4.8 pounds of ecstasy - CBSSports.com[/url]

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1072327]It's always the quiet ones
[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24563900/former-nfl-wr-reche-caldwell-arrested-with-48-pounds-of-ecstasy]Former NFL WR Reche Caldwell arrested with 4.8 pounds of ecstasy - CBSSports.com[/url][/quote]

I am not gonna say that SmootSmack already posted this, but this statement should imply just that. Or infer it, ah who cares which one it is. The point that I am making is that Cocaine is a helluva drug.

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Yeah the Rams are really in a no win situation for the short time being. The cameras aren't allowed at the Rams facility but still, it's a major distraction to the entire organization. A 7th rounder with a reality show....SMH. Isn't AJ McCaron doing one too?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1072333]I am not gonna say that SmootSmack already posted this, but this statement should imply just that. Or infer it, ah who cares which one it is. The point that I am making is that Cocaine is a helluva drug.[/quote]

Screw you Quake. You never let me have my moment. (Insert very angry face here of which no smiley available can show the extent of my anger! AND NO I AM STILL NOT OVERREACTING SCREW ANYONE WHO EVEN THINKS THAT> GO JUMP OFF A BUILDING AND LAND ON A CACTUS IN ALASKA > AND NO THIS IS [URL="http://youtu.be/5rAOyh7YmEc?t=1m51s"]NOT MY THEME SONG[/URL])
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Michael Sam = a gay Tim Tebow

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[quote=Giantone;1072338]Michael Sam = a gay Tim Tebow[/quote]

except not really.

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[quote=Giantone;1072338]Michael Sam = a gay Tim Tebow[/quote]


Funny , I always thought Tebow might be gay

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[quote=Hog1;1072326]Jeff may regret his pick............[/quote]

No good deed goes unpunished.

The media isn't passive. If the show doesn't have enough conflict or controversy to keep the viewer's interest, then the Oprah producers will create it in some way. They may draw a controversial comment out of Sam or they may do a little creative editing. The show has got to be about something.

I think its strange about the media hype that followed Tebow. I mean all he was - was a qb that didnt pan out. All that hype just because of his tebowing pose. Stupid.

[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1072352]No good deed goes unpunished.



The media isn't passive. If the show doesn't have enough conflict or controversy to keep the viewer's interest, then the Oprah producers will create it in some way. They may draw a controversial comment out of Sam or they may do a little creative editing. The show has got to be about something.[/QUOTE]


Everything Oprah touches turns to gold.

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Michael Sam would be a fool not to capitalize on the Oprah documentary. He will probably be irrelevant in 3 years so make your money while you can.

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[quote=donofriose;1072355]Michael Sam would be a fool not to capitalize on the Oprah documentary. He will probably be irrelevant in 3 years so make your money while you can.[/quote]

Sure, the documentary will be good for Sam and Oprah and, possibly, it will even be good for the NFL. It's not as likely to be good for the Rams organization and it certainly wouldn't be good for any player, coach, or staff member who might be portrayed as a bigot or villain in the documentary.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1072360]Sure, the documentary will be good for Sam and Oprah and, possibly, it will even be good for the NFL. It's not as likely to be good for the Rams organization and it certainly wouldn't be good for any player, coach, or staff member who might be portrayed as a bigot or villain in the documentary.[/quote]

Yea and if he gets cut he knows why. He is taking a chance trying to make his money now because he knows he might not have a job at the beginning of this season. That is almost every single NFL player's goal, make as much money as you can, especially a player in Sam's position.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1072360]Sure, the documentary will be good for Sam and Oprah and, possibly, it will even be good for the NFL. It's not as likely to be good for the Rams organization and it certainly wouldn't be good for any player, coach, or staff member who might be portrayed as a bigot or villain in the documentary.[/quote]

You may be right, but I do think Oprah tends to focus on the positives of success. Most likely the bigot/villains that are used as the backdrop will be -in no specific order- personal demons Sam overcame, childhood bullies, society at large pressure. Any portrayal of specific current coach/player/staff in a vilifying manner would open the show up to slander, and again, it's not my understanding of Oprah's style. And no I don't have her channel on speed dial :D

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^ I'm guessing this show would be a puff piece more or less. The NFL isn't going to let someone show them in a bad light.

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[quote=punch it in;1072354]Everything Oprah touches turns to gold.[/quote]

Id like to test that theory and have her kiss my a$$.

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[url=http://thebiglead.com/2014/05/16/jets-defensive-coordinator-dennis-thurman-accused-of-slapping-woman-during-happy-hour/]Jets Defensive Coordinator Dennis Thurman Accused of Slapping Woman During Happy Hour | The Big Lead[/url]

damn. Is that Rick James in that picture with the five fingers open?

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[quote=That Guy;1072339]except not really.[/quote]


He is a media hound looking for a payday because he likes guys instead of women, cool hope he is happy ,I really don't care but it has nothing to do with football and if he can't "cut it " as they say ,then he shouldn't be there .

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[quote=Mattyk;1072375]^ I'm guessing this show would be a puff piece more or less. The NFL isn't going to let someone show them in a bad light.[/quote]



Bingo , and it's why he won't get cut . The Rams will carry him just for the sake of the NFL ,look at how many "new fans" he'll bring to the league this year and not even play .All I can say is that when it's the final cut day and he stays and someone else who can play is cut ,he can thank oprah and the NFL .

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Is it possible that Sam is worthy of a roster spot? Dude was pretty damn good at the last level. Gay or not he was getting drafted, and if it weren't for his announcement and the media circus every GM saw coming, he might have gotten drafted earlier.

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[quote=punch it in;1072396]Is it possible that Sam is worthy of a roster spot? Dude was pretty damn good at the last level. Gay or not he was getting drafted, and if it weren't for his announcement and the media circus every GM saw coming, he might have gotten drafted earlier.[/quote]



That explains the Tebow comparison .

[QUOTE=Giantone;1072397]That explains the Tebow comparison .[/QUOTE]


How?

The media didnt make Tebow a better football player or a worse one. He is what he is. It isnt going to make Sam better or worse either. Tebow got drafted because of his success in college. He obviously did not pan out. Sam might never be an all pro, or maybe he will. He might be a career backup, and he might be cut before he ever sniffs the field. Who knows? I think the comparison with Tebow is dumb.

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[url=http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24563521/michael-sams-career-faces-real-danger-the-tim-tebow-effect]Michael Sam's career faces real danger: The Tim Tebow Effect - CBSSports.com[/url]

Actually I'm with Giant. The thing is with both Tebow and Sam is that they draw the attention of the type of non-football types that just have an extremely limited understanding of how the NFL works.

So when Tebow was cut by the Jets, to the untrained layman it was because they 'didn't agree with his Christian values and blah blah blah. Look how many games he won.' Never mind he had God awful numbers and a most generous schedule. After all the Broncos won their division at 8-8. Not to mention a throwing motion that made Byron Leftwich look like Favre in terms of release. And in the end even though teams would have been more then willing to give a guy with a work ethic and positive locker room influence like Tebow a shot the attention that comes with a guy who really should be a third string QB is just such an unwelcome distraction. It wasn't Tebow's Christianity that led him out of the league, it was his fanatical followers. Granted Tebows instance on only playing QB didn't help either ([URL="http://espn.go.com/chrismortensen/s/2003/0414/1539047.html"]see Eric Crouch[/URL])

So going forward if anything happens to Sam many untrained laymans will automatically assume, oh The Rams or any other team is anti-gay. No, the guy is a 7th round pick. Even though he was productive in college he doesn't have the physical skill set that makes him a lock for the roster. The good news is though as a DE if he does make the team he can be rotated, unlike QB where if hes taken out for even a single play you end up with a media controversy (See [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Donovan-McNabb-Mike-Shanahan-benching-Washington-Redskins-110210"]McNabb fitness[/URL]).

I really hope Sam is successful and I applaud the Rams for drafting him. The problem though is, just like Tebow, we're going to end up with a lot of non-football types making declarations and accusations if he hits a snag before age 34. And maybe not even old age will save Sam from a controversy.

[QUOTE]2030 Headline: Rams cut 16 Year Veteran Sam. Save $18 Million in Cap Space

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"Ya I agr33. A m4ssiv3 B0ycott is n 0rd3r"

"Umm, you guys realize he's 40 years old right? Thats kind of old in the NFL."

"Oh s0 ur anti-ghey and u hate 0ld p3pps. YOLO!"

"I didn't say that."

"EVEry1 b0ycott the OlD gai"

Related Article: Marshall Manning to Declare For NFL Draft After Storybook Freshman Year at Tennessee.[/QUOTE]

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Im not really sure what the two sides are here? Lol. I am not a Sam fan or a hater. Im just pointing out the fact that he and tim tebow may have been or be in the spotlight, but he is going to make it in the NFL depending on what kind of player he turns out to be. Tebow got a chance, and it turned out he wasnt an nfl caliber qb. Sam may or may be an nfl caliber LB, but that has nothing to do with the media or his personal life imo.

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Good choice by his camp

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/16/michael-sam-reality-show-on-hold/]Michael Sam reality show on hold | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1072423]Good choice by his camp



[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/16/michael-sam-reality-show-on-hold/]Michael Sam reality show on hold | ProFootballTalk[/url][/QUOTE]


Agreed. This guy is 100% dedicated to earning a roster spot imo, and not just taking a spot away from someone else ala Jordan and the Whitesox.
Edit: i just believe if you could get inside Sams head that he believes he is good enough to be a pro, and at this point atleast could really care less about anything else. Imo he is 100% deserving of a chance due to his college career.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000350988/article/colts-robert-mathis-suspended-four-games-for-ped]Colts' Robert Mathis suspended four games for PED - NFL.com[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;1072423]Good choice by his camp

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/16/michael-sam-reality-show-on-hold/"]Michael Sam reality show on hold | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]
Cool...........I applaud his....camps decision

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Sam wont make the team

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1072469]Sam wont make the team[/quote]

With that loaded talent at the DE/OLB spot, it's highly doubtful he'll make the Rams roster.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10952238/buffalo-bills-fan-gets-owner-face-tattooed-arm]Buffalo Bills fan gets owner's face tattooed on arm - ESPN[/url]

Lol who's ready to get Danny?

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[quote=Chico23231;1072486][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10952238/buffalo-bills-fan-gets-owner-face-tattooed-arm]Buffalo Bills fan gets owner's face tattooed on arm - ESPN[/url]

Lol who's ready to get Danny?[/quote]

I have consulted with my camp and our official response is F*** that.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1072491]I have consulted with my camp and our official response is F*** that.[/quote]


lol , how about JKC ?(with the hat)

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[url=http://redskinsxtra.blogs.timesdispatch.com/2014/05/18/new-england-patriots-coming-richmond/]New England Patriots could be coming to Richmond - Richmond Times-Dispatch[/url]

That would be pretty cool. Get a chance to see Hoodie and Bratty