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very cool......

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His Dad needs to be at all games going forward. Even away games. Give him a seat on team flight.

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Kirk may not be an elite QB but he is much more than "just a guy".

- Since 1960, only Kirk Cousins and two other Redskins QB's have thrown TD's in the first 9 games of a season. Those QB's were Sonny Jurgensen and Joe Theismann.

- Kirk led the greatest comeback in Redskins history vs. the Bucs.

- Kirk had a perfect passer rating against the Saints, throwing 4 TD passes.

It's time to start recognizing him as the present and future QB of our team.

The only question left in my mind is "When will the Redskins begin negotiations with his agent to try to sign him to a long-term contract?".

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1128727]Kirk may not be an elite QB but he is much more than "just a guy".

- Since 1960, only Kirk Cousins and two other Redskins QB's have thrown TD's in the first 9 games of a season. Those QB's were Sonny Jurgensen and Joe Theismann.

- Kirk led the greatest comeback in Redskins history vs. the Bucs.

- Kirk had a perfect passer rating against the Saints, throwing 4 TD passes.

It's time to start recognizing him as the present and future QB of our team.

The only question left in my mind is "When will the Redskins begin negotiations with his agent to try to sign him to a long-term contract?".[/quote]

......nice

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1128727]Kirk may not be an elite QB but he is much more than "just a guy".

- Since 1960, only Kirk Cousins and two other Redskins QB's have thrown TD's in the first 9 games of a season. Those QB's were Sonny Jurgensen and Joe Theismann.

- Kirk led the greatest comeback in Redskins history vs. the Bucs.

- Kirk had a perfect passer rating against the Saints, throwing 4 TD passes.

It's time to start recognizing him as the present and future QB of our team.

The only question left in my mind is "When will the Redskins begin negotiations with his agent to try to sign him to a long-term contract?".[/quote]

Really?....we have four wins and you want to anoint him?
If we win seven or more games this year then maybe I will buy in.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1128730]Really?....we have four wins and you want to anoint him?
If we win seven or more games this year then maybe I will buy in.[/quote]

So its all on Kirk and the rest of the team has nothing to do with wins and losses??? this team could not win 7 more games this year with Brady as the Qb..Way to many issues with other areas..maybe 5 more wins and who knows 9-7 may win the division..but I hear you if Kirk doesn't win at least 7 more games this year I say cut him ..blow this team up start over with Rookie QB or some other aging gimpy QB..makes sense to me..whew Anybody out there got any positives about Kirk??

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1128730][B]Really?....we have four wins and you want to anoint him?[/B]
If we win seven or more games this year then maybe I will buy in.[/quote]

Yes. He's shown me enough and he's only going to get better.

Oh, BTW, Cousins is first Redskins QB with at least 300 yards passing and a rating above 150 since Sammy Baugh in 1948.

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Nothing wrong with feeling good about Kirk lately. He's been improving steadily.

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still needs to finish strong. I really need him and Jay to win on the road for once.

That being said, I don't see a lot of options other than a 2-3 year extension in the area of 7-9 mill a year. He is good enough to continue to build the team stronger in other areas.

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Props to Riley - where has that guy been this season?


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He's our QB now and in the future, sign him to an extension. He's playing with great confidence and can see his growth.

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[quote=Mattyk;1128764]Nothing wrong with feeling good about Kirk lately. He's been improving steadily.[/quote]

I do feel good about him.
And no one on this forum has more to gain from his success than me.
You may not be able to tell but I'm his biggest fan.
But I'm allergic to Kool Aid.
Check out his home town....my nephew actually sacked him once in high school.
:joecool:
And as a response to others in this thread, he still has a chance to screw the pooch with the remaining schedule.....
If he keeps the interceptions on the down low and we win a few more games then we turn our GM loose on the draft again and we win the division next year.
HTTR!!!!!!

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LOL.....I just asked Siri if she liked Kirk Cousins and she said she was not in a position to judge, but she did provide me with his stats.

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You guys are nuts if you don't re-sign him. There are a lot of teams where he would start right now, and the QB draft class is hot garbage.

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This was yet another step in the right direction. Good job Kirk!

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I gotta say, we should probably hang onto to Cuzzo. He's our best option and unless some amazing QB goes onto the FA market (which I doubt) we aren't gonna find a better option this offseason.

He's got his ups and downs, but when he's up he waaaaay up.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1128785]I gotta say, we should probably hang onto to Cuzzo. He's our best option and unless some amazing QB goes onto the FA market (which I doubt) we aren't gonna find a better option this offseason.

He's got his ups and downs, but when he's up he waaaaay up.[/quote]

Ditto!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1128769]He's our QB now and in the future, sign him to an extension. He's playing with great confidence and can see his growth.[/quote]

Hmm..I wish I had your enthusiasm. There's seven more games to go. We shouldn't be so ready as to annoint him as Joe Theismann 2.0 just yet. Let's wait until after all 16 games have been played.....

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everyone is assuming it will easy to sign Kirk, it will not

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To summarize in one post,

[U]Kirk Cousins is[/U]:

- The QB who led the greatest comeback in the 79 years of Redskins history (vs. the Bucs).

- The first Redskins QB to throw for 300+ yards and have a passer rating of 150 or higher since Sammy Baugh in 1948, 67 years ago.

- One of only three Redskins QB's to have thrown TD's in the first 9 games of a season since 1960, 55 years ago. The other two QB's were Sonny Jurgensen and Joe Theismann.

- The first NFL QB to record 300+ yards, 80% completions, 4 TD's and no picks since Tom Brady in 2007, 8 years ago.

These are facts, not opinions. How strong is that?

[U]Kirk Cousins is not[/U]:

- Just a guy.

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Misread this by a long shot.

Who is Kirk Cousins?
 

[QUOTE=Skinzman;1128821]Theismann threw a TD in the first 9 games of a season in the NFL as an 11 year old. Thats damn impressive.[/QUOTE]


A record that will never be broken....
Edit: trying to stay out of this thread but I couldnt resist. While Im here just want to say I hope alot if you enjoyed that crow again. I wont mention names - its all here in black n white.

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[quote=punch it in;1128822]A record that will never be broken....
Edit: trying to stay out of this thread but I couldnt resist. While Im here just want to say I hope alot if you enjoyed that crow again. I wont mention names - its all here in black n white.[/quote]

I will most certainly enjoy crow if KC turns into that guy. I just came back to correct that post anyways since I misread it. It said since, not the last time it happened.

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[quote=Skinzman;1128821]Theismann threw a TD in the first 9 games of a season in the NFL as an 11 year old. Thats damn impressive.[/quote]

I think you misread the sentence.

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Totally misread it too, but throwing 55 years ago made it seem as such. One of only three since 1960 would have been better - especially on Monday morning.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1128814]everyone is assuming it will easy to sign Kirk, it will not[/quote]

Why is that?

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[quote=punch it in;1128827]Totally misread it too, but throwing 55 years ago made it seem as such. One of only three since 1960 would have been better - especially on Monday morning.[/quote]

What is this, Random House Publishing Company?

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[quote=Chico23231;1128829]Why is that?[/quote]

Because KCs agent is going to ask for a contract similar to Russell Wilson.

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[quote=Skinzman;1128836]Because KCs agent is going to ask for a contract similar to Russell Wilson.[/quote]

psshhhh lol

folks are delusional

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[quote=Chico23231;1128837]psshhhh lol

folks are delusional[/quote]

Wilson (91.6 Rating):
175/266 - 2118 YDS - 65.8% COMP - 7.96 AVG - 10 TDs - 7 INTs - 4 FUM

Cousins (89.9 Rating):
226/333 - 2278 YDS - 67.9% COMP - 6.84 AVG - 14 TDS - 9 INTs - 3 FUM

If you look at the production between Cousins and Wilson, they are pretty similar. And Cousins doesn't have the defense Wilson has. I'm not saying that Cousins deserves Wilson's contract, but Wilson is really not living up to his contract.

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Let's wait and see after the season for kirk

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I think the way Jay and McC have treated Cousins and given him an honest shot will pay off big for us.

Im with skinsfanok, let it play out but there is a trend in kap, tannahill style deals that would work for us.

But please, Cousins and Wilson aren't the same. And Cousins will not be getting a Russell Wilson contract. That is just insanely dumb to even mention it.

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Okay, to be clear, I am liking KC a lot more than a month ago. He has had three solid games without a clunker (so expect a 4 INT day against the Panthers ;) ).

However, when it comes to contracts, to start saying he will - or should - get a Russell Wilson or Cam Newton contract is ridiculous. RW has a Superbowl ring. Cam had been a four year starter. KC has been neither of those. He is a guy who may be on the verge of being a very good QB. He still has the season to go.

If he continues to play like he has in these last three games over the rest of the season, he will get a solid, short term contract (three years real terms - maybe two). It would be ludicrous to sign him to a budget busting contract based on less than one year of consistent good play as a starter. His big contract will be his [I]next[/I] contract if he continues to play with consistency.

He will be a tough sign but I am pretty sure, if he performs well, he gets resigned for a nice but not brutal contract.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1128830]What is this, Random House Publishing Company?[/QUOTE]


Who is Random House Publishing Company? That is the question.

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[QUOTE=Skinzman;1128836]Because KCs agent is going to ask for a contract similar to Russell Wilson.[/QUOTE]


He can ask all he wants, that's just not reality unless we end up in the SB.

Are you just assuming this or is there any basis to it?

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I do not see a basis for a huge contract. The guy just completed his first three game stretch of quality play.

I see growth in KC. He is proving my assumptions of him going into the season wrong. This makes me happy.

I do not think we need to sit here with still 7 games to go in a division that we can win and debate the amount of his next contract. Still alot of football to play and a lot of growth to see.

The last thing we as a franchise need is to over pay a guy. Think of one good season for Derek Anderson or the big contract the Bills gave Fitzpatrick after one good year. This is dangerous water for us as a team as we try and build a perennial winner.

NOW if we see solid play from Kirk through out the rest of the season and finish 8-8 or better we can start to talk about his next contract.

As of right now he isn't going anywhere next year and I would be beyond excited to see this year being his stepping stone to becoming one of the better Qbs in the league (note that I did not say the next Brady, Rodgers, Manning)

If we want to keep him in DC in the offseason it will not be that hard to do.

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[quote=Skinzman;1128836]Because KCs agent is going to ask for a contract similar to Russell Wilson.[/quote]

he wouldn't get that here or anywhere else.

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Guys, Kirk is not getting a RW contract. Skinzwin has been debbie downer on Cousins throughout this thread and is now just throwing something out there without any basis ..

I assume with Scot and Bruce, he will get paid but not over paid. He will get paid his worth. He still has 7 or so more games to add or decease his worth.

having to extend your starting QB is a good problem to have.

laissez les bon temp roulez

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Me thinks a lot in here dont understand negotiating. Its the one thing that has been discussed on this board ad nauseum when it comes to who should be the QB next year. Who else is there?

The draft doesnt seem to have top notch QBs and we are not in a position to get one anyways as I doubt we have a top 5 pick. FA probably wont either. His agent fully understands that its either tag him or get into a bidding war in FA. Given the overpayments that QBs get in todays NFL, its not unreasonable to think that a team like Cleveland or the Jets will go after him. KC isnt young, but he isnt old either.

If neither the draft nor FA seem to be a place to grab a QB, then KC is going to get overpayed. If KC would take a 7 or 8 mil per year deal, something tells me that deal would have already been signed as we easily have the money next year under the cap. It still isnt an easy signing because unless we overpay or KC just wants to help us out, he will test the market.

Is it possible that McC can convince him to give him a 1 yr deal saying that the team can improve enough to get into the playoffs next year and that the payoff would easily be worth it for KC? Sure. But I guarantee you the agent is going to also be in his ear saying he is worth 20 mil per.

Lets also not forget the escalating cap, which results in escalating salaries.