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[quote=mooby;1139271]I appreciate the direness of your situation, however there's no way to be conclusive that Dan Snyder is who we think he is. At least we can take solace in the fact Kirk Cousins appears to be the opposite of fat, lazy, entitled, etc. so that money should be well spent.[/quote]

Maybe money well spent for one more season:

[url=http://www.hngn.com/articles/179025/20160214/washington-redskins-rumors-kirk-cousins-nowhere-close-new-deal-receiving.htm]Washington Redskins RUMORS: Kirk Cousins 'Nowhere Close To A New Deal,' Receiving Franchise Tag? : Sports : Headlines & Global News[/url]

I don't know if this is good or bad.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1139274]Maybe money well spent for one more season:

[url=http://www.hngn.com/articles/179025/20160214/washington-redskins-rumors-kirk-cousins-nowhere-close-new-deal-receiving.htm]Washington Redskins RUMORS: Kirk Cousins 'Nowhere Close To A New Deal,' Receiving Franchise Tag? : Sports : Headlines & Global News[/url]

I don't know if this is good or bad.[/quote]

Jason la cuntfora reported this, so we know 100% this is garbage based on zero facts per the norm for this guy.

Grain of salt

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[quote=Chico23231;1139275][B]Jason la cuntfora reported this[/B], so we know 100% this is garbage based on zero facts per the norm for this guy.

Grain of salt[/quote]

You have a point........

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1139272]Pretty sure there was an article in the Washington Times a few years back about Haynesworth blocking his day off in 15 min increments.[/quote]

I can only assume it looked like this: 9 am donut shop run, 9:15 nap time, 9:30 show up to practice 1 1/2 hours late, 9:45 fail conditioning test, 10 am 2nd nap...

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Per nfltraderumors.com:

John Keim of ESPN considers the Redskins’ need for defensive line help as “high.” Keim mentions that they need to get younger up front on defensive.

In regards to impending free agent DT [B]Terrance Knighton[/B], Keim believes the only way he returns is if they can’t find another nose tackle and he agrees to drop some weight.

Keim lists [B]Muhammad Wilkerson, Malik Jackson Damon Harrison, Jaye Howard[/B], and [B]Ian Williams[/B] as potential free agents targets who would make sense for Washington if they’re available.

As for the draft, Keim suggests Alabama’s [B]A’Shawn Robinson[/B], Alabama’s [B]Jarran Reed[/B] and Louisiana Tech’s [B]Vernon Butler[/B] as a few names to watch.

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Who cares where Griffin goes? I could care less if he goes to a division rival. Do people remember his final play here? Drops back, has two guys wide open right in front of him, instead of throwing the ball he tucks it down, gets sacked and fumbles. He sucks, end of discussion. McNabb was a way better QB than Griffin and he played for a division rival.

As far as the contract w/ Cousins, the Redskins will probably end up tagging him and if they can't reach a deal then so be it. He'll play for 19 million and that gives the powers that be another year to evaluate him. He's a trending up player but I wouldn't mind seeing if he can duplicate last year or get better.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1139289]Per nfltraderumors.com:

John Keim of ESPN considers the Redskins’ need for defensive line help as “high.” Keim mentions that they need to get younger up front on defensive.

In regards to impending free agent DT [B]Terrance Knighton[/B], Keim believes the only way he returns is if they can’t find another nose tackle and he agrees to drop some weight.

Keim lists [B]Muhammad Wilkerson, Malik Jackson Damon Harrison, Jaye Howard[/B], and [B]Ian Williams[/B] as potential free agents targets who would make sense for Washington if they’re available.

As for the draft, Keim suggests Alabama’s [B]A’Shawn Robinson[/B], Alabama’s [B]Jarran Reed[/B] and Louisiana Tech’s [B]Vernon Butler[/B] as a few names to watch.[/quote]

In terms of questions, the Dline is facing a ton. Def makes for the most interesting conversation this offseason not named Cousins.

So Keim is now reporting what Tarik alBashir did a couple weeks ago...Expect a high first round pick at Dline and a younger Dline Free agent pick up.

Im bout that...I want this guy: [url=http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/58440/losing-big-snacks-harrison-would-be-a-punch-in-the-jets-nose]Losing Damon Harrison would be punch in New York Jets' nose - New York Jets Blog- ESPN[/url]

Losing a nickname like Pot Roast is tough, but replacing him with "Snacks" is a win. Snacks at NT and A'Shawn Robinson at DE?

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[url]http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14776956/five-moves-cowboys-redskins-eagles-giants-make-offseason-nfl[/url]

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[quote=punch it in;1139293][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14776956/five-moves-cowboys-redskins-eagles-giants-make-offseason-nfl]Five moves the Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles and Giants should make this offseason - NFL[/url][/quote]

Good ideas for the Redskins. There should be enough cap space to sign 5 mid-level free agents (@ $5 million per year)

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[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/report-cousins-breaks-contract-talks-redskins?cid=email:CSN%20Mid-Atlantic%20Breaking%20News:2015+-+CSN+Mid-Atlantic+Breaking+News:13021]Report: Cousins breaks off contract talks with Redskins | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

I'm guessing it is the Franchise tag for Cousins for the foreseeable future?

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[quote=Ruhskins;1139295][url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/report-cousins-breaks-contract-talks-redskins?cid=email:CSN%20Mid-Atlantic%20Breaking%20News:2015+-+CSN+Mid-Atlantic+Breaking+News:13021]Report: Cousins breaks off contract talks with Redskins | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

I'm guessing it is the Franchise tag for Cousins for the foreseeable future?[/quote]

Gotta believe it. No way they let him hit FA, and it sounds like there's a long way to go to get a deal.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

Franchise him and keep working on a long term deal.

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This is clearly an effort on McCloughan and Allen's part to gain leverage. They will surely tag him, and when they do Kirk will have to decide whether he risks it and bets on himself to play his way into a huge deal next year, or whether he'd accept what the Skins are offering.

It's a tough call if you're Kirk. $20M for one season is good but you want that guarantee to really secure things.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

I remember a few years ago Brees didn't show up to any off season stuff. Can't remember if he was franchised but I wonder if KC does the same thing.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1139300]I remember a few years ago Brees didn't show up to any off season stuff. Can't remember if he was franchised but I wonder if KC does the same thing.[/quote]

I don't think Cousins is the kind of guy who would refuse to practice / do off-season stuff. Can't believe he wouldn't want to stay here.

But he has told many people he wants to be / play where he is wanted, so maybe to him, the Skins aren't showing enough interest?

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I also noticed that article "sort of" to me speculated that the fact that RG3 is still on the team could have something to do with the stalled negotiations. Perhaps Cousins is telling them that he doesn't want to negotiate unless he is the "unquestioned" starter? I don't really blame him on that part. Plus it just makes us look bad if we sign him to a multi year big money deal, and then during a slump next season he is benched for somebody....

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[quote=Schneed10;1139299]This is clearly an effort on McCloughan and Allen's part to gain leverage. They will surely tag him, and when they do Kirk will have to decide whether he risks it and bets on himself to play his way into a huge deal next year, or whether he'd accept what the Skins are offering.

It's a tough call if you're Kirk. $20M for one season is good but you want that guarantee to really secure things.[/quote]

Yes, it must be tough for Kirk to know that if he's franchise tagged and he gets hurt or has a disastrous 2016 season that he might have to get by on just [U]!!! TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS !!![/U] for the foreseeable future.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

I say tag him anyway and see what he does

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1139303]I also noticed that article "sort of" to me speculated that the fact that RG3 is still on the team could have something to do with the stalled negotiations. Perhaps Cousins is telling them that he doesn't want to negotiate unless he is the "unquestioned" starter? I don't really blame him on that part. Plus it just makes us look bad if we sign him to a multi year big money deal, and then during a slump next season he is benched for somebody....[/quote]

RGIII has nothing to do with any of this.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

They have two weeks to complete the deal. This seems to be the normal process. I am not worried about them wrapping up a long term deal. My concern is over spending on him, if you offered RG3 16 million, KC should get 17 or 18.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

I've heard that the NFL is a Passing League so long that I actually believed it.

But, in looking at the top tier NFC team stats, the common theme I see is they all ran the ball well and they all stopped the run well.

Rush Yds/game: Car #2, Sea #3, Arz #8 (Was #20)
Pass Yds/game: Car #24, Sea #20, Arz #2 (Was #11)

Stopping the Run: Sea #1, Car #4, Arz #6 (Was #26)
Stopping the Pass Sea #2, Car #11, Arz #8 (Was #25)

Seeing these stats really sobered me up with how far we have to go to be top tier.

OK, OK, I know we need more sacks right? If we had just 0.5 more sacks per game, then we'd be elite!
Car: 44, Sea: 37, Arz: 36
(Note: Was with 38, had more sacks than Sea & Arz).

OK, OK, it's more total take-aways (Int+Fumbl) that we need to be elite. Getting pressure causes more Int's & Fumbles....
Car: 39, Arz: 33, Sea: 22
(note: Was: 26 had more take-aways than the vaunted Seattle Defense)

So, what does it take to be elite (at least in the NFC)?

To me the stats tell are telling us to....
Get much better at Stopping the run and get better at Running the ball.

Hail!

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

Has anybody seen any articles on arie kouandjio. Is he developing? Will he start next year?

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1139310]Has anybody seen any articles on arie kouandjio. Is he developing? Will he start next year?[/quote]

My guess is he wins the LG position next year, he plays with a nasty streak.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1139305]I say tag him anyway and see what he does

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The big issues I see with tagging him is that all his salary will count toward the cap. If he lights it up again the Skins will have to sign him and they will pay through the nose to do so.

I think KC could learn a good lesson from Ian Desmond of the Nationals who was offered an extension at a nice price and turned it down. Now he's hoping to be signed by somebody. So I'm saying that KC also needs to be prudent in his decision on what is and isn't a good/fair contract.

I think in some ways the Skins over spending on RG3 is making them reluctant to spend on KC but with that said I do think the Skins and KC will reach an agreement that works for both parties.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

How did they overspend on RGIII? His rookie deal was quite reasonable.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1139303]I also noticed that article "sort of" to me speculated that the fact that RG3 is still on the team could have something to do with the stalled negotiations. Perhaps Cousins is telling them that he doesn't want to negotiate unless he is the "unquestioned" starter? I don't really blame him on that part. Plus it just makes us look bad if we sign him to a multi year big money deal, and then during a slump next season he is benched for somebody....[/quote]

It's a little crazy to think that the guy who just had the Redskins best qb season since '99 Brad Johnson would still believe a guy who can't execute a 5 step drop could be a threat against him.

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[quote=MTK;1139313]How did they overspend on RGIII? His rookie deal was quite reasonable.[/quote]

Don't you remember? The 40 mil signing bonus? The average annual value rivaling that of the league's elite? Oh wait I'm thinking of JaMarcus Russell's contract. RG3's was after they went to the current system, where rookie contracts are slotted based on where you're drafted. So in conclusion, you are absolutely right his contract was very reasonable.

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By overspending I mean giving up all the draft picks. More like over-investing than over-spending. RG had one good year and now looks to be the biggest bust in Skins history. The Skins are reluctant to risk another to over-investment in another potential one and done QB.

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I think a lot of people also think he's already been paid that $16M 5th year option, which he hasn't.

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I don't think we overspent on Griffin but I do believe Scot will eventually pay kirk 18M or so a yr. Also they can tag him 2 years in a row if need be but I'm sure it'll get done eventually.

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The tag next year will be $24M... It's best for both sides to get a deal done now.

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[quote=MTK;1139321]The tag next year will be $24M... It's best for both sides to get a deal done now.[/quote]

I agree.

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[QUOTE=irish;1139318]By overspending I mean giving up all the draft picks. More like over-investing than over-spending. RG had one good year and now looks to be the biggest bust in Skins history. The Skins are reluctant to risk another to over-investment in another one and done player.[/QUOTE]


I honestly don't think one situation has anything to do with the other. RGIII isn't McCloughan's or Gruden's guy so there's no emotion tied in the player or how he got here. And Snyder has never been afraid to spend.

It just comes down to it being very early in the process, and getting a deal done that makes sense for both sides. These things take time.

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[quote=MTK;1139323]I honestly don't think one situation has anything to do with the other. RGIII isn't McCloughan's or Gruden's guy so there's no emotion tied in the player or how he got here. And Snyder has never been afraid to spend.

It just comes down to it being very early in the process, and getting a deal done that makes sense for both sides. These things take time.[/quote]

RG3 isnt McCloughan's or Gruden's guy but he is Snyder's guy and no matter what anyone says Snyder still has input into the decisions. Snyder definitely isn't afraid to spend but I do think he doesn't want to look bad again.

I don't think its very early in the process anymore but I do think there is still plenty of time to get this done.

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No further talks are scheduled, the source told Schefter. Another source recently told ESPN that the two sides were not close in earlier discussions and that the gap had not been closed in the ensuing weeks.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14786684/kirk-cousins-washington-redskins-break-contract-negotiations]Kirk Cousins, Washington Redskins break off contract negotiations[/url]

Im really curious to know what Cousins and his agent Mike McCartney want.

If he wants more than 17-18 mil per for 4 years, 50% guaranteed .. i wouldnt hesitate to tag him.

I think Cousins has high value in this system throwing the ball to Jordan Reed/Jackson/Garcon. I think Cousins does not do as well on the 31 other teams.

I dont mind the idea of tagging him and letting him prove himself for another year.

if he wants to gamble that he has a healthy and equally productive 2016 and not take the "your family is set for life" offer now .. god bless him and good luck.

Cousins you are one blown 1 acl away. Take the guaranteed money my friend. You are looking at 35 mil or so guaranteed no matter what happens ... but you want to roll the dice for a few mil more?

good luck with that.

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There are a couple facts about Cousins and the Skins:

Cousins will be back next year...whether its a tag or a deal, and I really don't care.

The other fact is Bruce and McC are not doing a stupid contract. Vinny is long gone and even the Bruce contracts, hit or miss, are not bad contracts.

The story of the Cousins contract is gonna get...already actually... annoying this offseason.

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[quote=over the mountain;1139326]No further talks are scheduled, the source told Schefter. Another source recently told ESPN that the two sides were not close in earlier discussions and that the gap had not been closed in the ensuing weeks.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14786684/kirk-cousins-washington-redskins-break-contract-negotiations]Kirk Cousins, Washington Redskins break off contract negotiations[/url]

Im really curious to know what Cousins and his agent Mike McCartney want.

If he wants more than 17-18 mil per for 4 years, 50% guaranteed .. i wouldnt hesitate to tag him.

I think Cousins has high value in this system throwing the ball to Jordan Reed/Jackson/Garcon. I think Cousins does not do as well on the 31 other teams.

I dont mind the idea of tagging him and letting him prove himself for another year.

if he wants to gamble that he has a healthy and equally productive 2016 and not take the "your family is set for life" offer now .. god bless him and good luck.

Cousins you are one blown 1 acl away. Take the guaranteed money my friend. You are looking at 35 mil or so guaranteed no matter what happens ... but you want to roll the dice for a few mil more?

good luck with that.[/quote]

IMO KC and his agent know the Skins really have no viable replacement at QB. Colt isn't a starter and RG's ship has sailed with this coaching staff. Bringing in a free agent who can start wont be much cheaper and it will be another lost year while he learns the system/playbook. I have to believe KC and his agent are using this as a bargaining chip to try to get more out of the Skins and I dont blame them but its obvious to anyone paying attention that what's best for all is to KC to resign.

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[quote=MTK;1139321]The tag next year will be $24M... It's best for both sides to get a deal done now.[/quote]

I'm sort of in the camp of tagging him this year, letting him prove himself, and rewarding him next year. Might be a bigger contract, but at least you know Cousins is definitely for real. Anyway, wouldn't teams have to give up first round picks to grab him this year if he's tagged? If so, tag him and take that chance.

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[quote=irish;1139332]IMO KC and his agent know the Skins really have no viable replacement at QB. Colt isn't a starter and RG's ship has sailed with this coaching staff. Bringing in a free agent who can start wont be much cheaper and it will be another lost year while he learns the system/playbook. I have to believe KC and his agent are using this as a bargaining chip to try to get more out of the Skins and I dont blame them but its obvious to anyone paying attention that what's best for all is to KC to resign.[/quote]

i like the skins bargaining chip - well just tag you at 20 mil and let you decide to walk away from fair guaranteed money in the hopes you dont get hurt or regress.

every single snap, whether in practice or regular season, could be your last. an acl injury puts him out for the year, then he rehabs, has to re-prove himself .... suddenly he is 30 and a question mark.

cousins still has some to prove. i have him penciled in as a 10-15 best QB, i think he thinks he is top 10 written in permanent marker.

the guy had 8 or so really good games.

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if Cousins wants north of 20 mil per, why even negotiate with him? that is about the tag money but without the long term commitment.

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[quote=over the mountain;1139335]i like the skins bargaining chip - well just tag you at 20 mil and let you decide to walk away from fair guaranteed money in the hopes you dont get hurt or regress.

every single snap, whether in practice or regular season, could be your last. an acl injury puts him out for the year, then he rehabs, has to re-prove himself .... suddenly he is 30 and a question mark.

cousins still has some to prove. i have him penciled in as a 10-15 best QB, i think he thinks he is top 10 written in permanent marker.

the guy had 8 or so really good games.

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if Cousins wants north of 20 mil per, why even negotiate with him? that is about the tag money but without the long term commitment.[/quote]

For sure the Skins have bargaining chip or two as well. I have no problem with KC getting as much as he can get and I have no problem with the Skins wanting the best deal for themselves. I just hope nobody does anything stupid that creates so many hard feelings that it poisons the well.