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Some media folks have mentioned Marvin Lewis because he has worked here before and is someone who can come in and work under the circumstances.

I feel like we can do worse.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1240041]Some media folks have mentioned Marvin Lewis because he has worked here before and is someone who can come in and work under the circumstances.

I feel like we can do worse.[/quote]

He had 10 years to do some damage with the Bengals and never could. I feel like that's just bumping your head on 9-7 every other year.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1240041]Some media folks have mentioned Marvin Lewis because he has worked here before and is someone who can come in and work under the circumstances.

I feel like we can do worse.[/quote]

Terrible hire in every capacity

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Marvin should retire, he’s irrelevant

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Here is my argument for Marvin Lewis. There's only a few worse organizations in the NFL than the Skins, the Browns and Bengals. Although he never won a playoff game he did have them in the playoffs just about every year he was there. He knows who to coach a great defense. I think he did a good job there under those circumstances, working for the Brown family. They're the cheapest team in the NFL. Yes we could do better but the top guys on the market are not going to come here. This isn't the Redskins brand of 30 years ago.

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I’d definitely take Marvin Lewis. The Bengals have gone back to being the Bengals since he left.


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131-122-3 record with the Bengals is pretty amazing when you think about it.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1240002]Hard pass. Let me know when someone more credible/reputable/competent is reporting anything about this.[/quote]

Yeah thats sounds more like a logical guess .. Dan needs to keep Bruce around to be the face of the new stadium and financing meetings but knows he has to appease the fans by bringing in a new name to be the "football guy".

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Bengals = Redskins imo. 2 of the worst run organizations in sports. Cheap on scouts, cheap on facilities, equipment, trainers etc.

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We continued to improve and make strides and so it was just so comforting - coming from Cincinnati, who is a whole nother kind of mess and disaster. So coming from that and then going to Oakland and then all of a sudden, I got to Arizona, I was like, man, this is the NFL. This is how you're supposed to do it. This is right. And it was just so comforting. And so much less stress and pressure.

In order to win in the NFL ... you've got to be desperate to win a championship. You've got to be all in. The financials and the money side of it are very important obviously to owners, and to everybody that's invested in the organization. But if the most important thing is the financials and the second-most important thing is winning, then you don't have a chance. And it's so important that ownership is willing to do what it takes to win. ... If you just kinda sit there and hope that things fall your way, you've got to get really, really lucky to win a championship. But if you're desperate and you're willing to do what it takes and you'll spend to go get this player. ... You've got to be consistently trying to build a championship team. If you're just kinda sitting there and hoping somebody falls in your lap, it's hard to do it that way. You've got to have the ball bounce your way a number of times in the playoffs. And you've got to get lucky here and get lucky there. You look at New England and there's not a lot of luck.

And lot of that is built specifically. You look at what Pittsburgh's done the last 20 years, there's not a lot of luck involved in that ... you look at what Seattle's done, there's not a lot of luck. ... That's not hoping that somebody falls to you in the draft. That's being manipulative of the draft and moving players and churning up rosters and building the right chemistry in the locker room and there's so much that goes into it, it's just not a lucky thing. In order to be successful in the NFL, the organization is of the utmost importance.

^^ Carson Palmer on his time w the bengals

[url]https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2019/11/02/carson-palmer-cincinnati-bengals-were-mess-and-disaster/4140193002/[/url]

Sorry for the wall of text. I heard Palmer talking about this years ago, always thought it was comparable to the Skins.

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[quote=Chico23231;1240044]Terrible hire in every capacity[/quote]

I'll only endorse it if Dan gives Bruce Allen a 5 year extension.

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[quote=Schneed10;1240043]He had 10 years to do some damage with the Bengals and never could. I feel like that's just bumping your head on [B]9-7[/B] every other year.[/quote]

Probably gives you a NFC EAST CROWN at least this year.

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[quote=SunnySide;1240051]
[URL]https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2019/11/02/carson-palmer-cincinnati-bengals-were-mess-and-disaster/4140193002/[/URL]

Sorry for the wall of text. I heard Palmer talking about this years ago, always thought it was comparable to the Skins.[/quote]


This right here!


It all starts with the team owner.

Bengals and Redskins have shitty Owners!


Seattle Seahawks were bottom feeders with only 4 playoff appearances before Paul Allen purchased the team in 1999. They've had 14 playoff season and 3 SB appearances since. They've won with different QBs and Head coaches. They fired Jim Mora JR after one season!!! They know how to cut their losses and move on. Allen knew how to run a business!



Nothing will change for the Redskins with Dan playing GM and his sockpuppets leading the team(Bruce and Doug).

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[quote=jamf;1240070]This right here!


It all starts with the team owner.

Bengals and Redskins have shitty Owners!


Seattle Seahawks were bottom feeders with only 4 playoff appearances before Paul Allen purchased the team in 1999. They've had 14 playoff season and 3 SB appearances since. They've won with different QBs and Head coaches. They fired Jim Mora JR after one season!!! They know how to cut their losses and move on. Allen knew how to run a business!



Nothing will change for the Redskins with Dan playing GM and his sockpuppets leading the team(Bruce and Doug).[/quote]

Until Dan stops meddling in player personnel decisions the Redskins will have a very low ceiling. He could turn Bill Belichick into a 8-9 win coach.

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More on DHall/BA

The Athletic has a podcast where DHall says after talking with BA, DHall doesn't seem like BA is in any fear of - or pressure about - losing his job. How is that possible? I don't understand at all.

DHall then goes on to hammer Todd McShay for saying the Skins are the worst organization. that makes me fear he is trying to butter Allen up to get into the FO.

Uggh.



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BA and Hall have a history going back when he played for the Raiders and BA was the GM. No thanks to both.

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None of this D Hall and Bruce stuff matters. Snyder needs a coach, and he’s never once completely delegated the selection of that coach.

He’s pursuing candidates and they’re telling him they want personnel control. It doesn’t matter how friendly Hall gets with Bruce, Snyder will have to give the new coach control, and knowing Snyder he’ll do what it takes to land him.

I like the chances of it being Meyer.

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[quote=Schneed10;1240076]None of this D Hall and Bruce stuff matters. Snyder needs a coach, and he’s never once completely delegated the selection of that coach.

He’s pursuing candidates and they’re telling him they want personnel control. It doesn’t matter how friendly Hall gets with Bruce, Snyder will have to give the new coach control, and knowing Snyder he’ll do what it takes to land him.

I like the chances of it being Meyer.[/quote]

+1. The best HC candidates are telling Snyder what he has to CHANGE in order for them to come work here. Snyder has zero leverage if he really wants the top-notch HC's. Here's the reason no one wants to work WITH Bruce Allen:

1. He's the worst GM in the NFL. The TW and "Kurt" Cousins fiasco just prove how bad he is.
2. 100 losses in 10 years - regardless of the HC. Both Mike Shannahan and Jay Gruden were well thought of before they were caught in the undertow of this sink hole.
3. Allen is petty and will undercut ANYONE who is getting more press or kudos than he is. McLovin' is just such an example.
4. He has zero NFL knowledge and football sense.
5. Redskins fans HATE him with a passion.

All these facts are well known in the NFL, except by Dan Snyder. I bet he's shocked to hear prospective HC candidates telling him the truth after 2 decades of a suck-ups like Bruce telling him that the Redskins are "Close" to being a good team OR that they have a "Damn Good" football culture. Bruce would have been a good communist - who were always ready with "THE BIG LIE".

Concerning the stadium situation, Snyder is missing the big picture. No politician is going to offer a $1 billion of tax-payer money for a new stadium, when the team has sucked for 20 years or to help a billionaire owner whom the fans hate. Bruce Allen can't help that situation.

I want BA gone completely from the Redskins organization and I think it will happen

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My choice right now:

HC: Eric Bieniemy
OC: Kevin O'Connell
DC: Steve Belichik

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 

[quote=Chico23231;1240457]My choice right now:

HC: Eric Bieniemy
OC: Kevin O'Connell
DC: [B]Steve Belichik[/B][/quote]

I have a feeling he has the inside track to move up on the Patriots. Why would you leave that organization to work for Dan Snyder?

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1240460]I have a feeling he has the inside track to move up on the Patriots. Why would you leave that organization to work for Dan Snyder?[/quote]

prove you can be a baller away from dad

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[quote=Chico23231;1240462]prove you can be a baller away from dad[/quote]

Jesus, Josh McDaniels is even too afraid too do that.

Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1240457]My choice right now:



HC: Eric Bieniemy

OC: Kevin O'Connell

DC: Steve Belichik[/QUOTE]

Those choices above AND this choice for GM:

GM: Kyle Smith

That’s what I want for Christmas!!



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I might be the small minority, but i believe we will see Bill Callahan as HC, Kevin O'Connell as OC, and i do think we get one more year out of Greg Manusky before Snyder / Allen has seen enough. What i think is skewing the opinions now is that the team seems to be playing with more fire than they had at any point with Jay this year.

I fear that Bruce could still use that word "close", and decide that we need to see those guys for a whole season doing things Bill's way, etc...

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If they keep manusky and Bruce there won’t be any fans left at all ..,

Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 

We keep Callahan, Manusky and Bruce Allen based on winning just 2 games after they fired Gruden? The second worst team in the NFL?

The fans will desert even more than they already have.

The media will scream even more than they already do now.

#FireBruceAllen will melt down twitter and the internet.

How long will the NFL allow Snyder to have half full OR LESS stadiums? Especially when 60% of those attending are fans from the other team? If Washington DC didn’t have the unusual attribute of having workers from all over the country, FEdEx field would be just 1/3 full. The owners can’t let it go on forever. They can’t make Snyder sell, but they could apply pressure to “do something to fix the problem”. Easiest answer is to fire Bruce.

Snyder is an idiot, but even he realizes that something must be done this offseason.


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[quote=Warthog;1240523][B]We keep Callahan, Manusky and Bruce Allen based on winning just 2 games after they fired Gruden?[/B] The second worst team in the NFL?

The fans will desert even more than they already have.

The media will scream even more than they already do now.

#FireBruceAllen will melt down twitter and the internet.

How long will the NFL allow Snyder to have half full OR LESS stadiums? Especially when 60% of those attending are fans from the other team? If Washington DC didn’t have the unusual attribute of having workers from all over the country, FEdEx field would be just 1/3 full. The owners can’t let it go on forever. They can’t make Snyder sell, but they could apply pressure to “do something to fix the problem”. Easiest answer is to fire Bruce.

Snyder is an idiot, but even he realizes that something must be done this offseason.


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You're selling them short, Gruden was 0-5. The Redskins are 3-7 since.

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The NFL can't and won't "step in" due to bad ownership.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1240531]The NFL can't and won't "step in" due to bad ownership.

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Sets a bad precedent that the other owners would never vote for

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No way Callahan comes back. It’s clean house time.


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Washington Redskins (3-12). I’m sorry to be a Scrooge on this topic, but truly, the only good gift for Redskins fans would be for their owner Daniel Snyder not to run the team. I don’t mean sell the team, I mean take an extended vacation, let someone who knows what he is doing run the operation. He needs to rebuild, not repair. It may be unlikely, but hey, it’s the holidays. We can hope for a Christmas Miracle.

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The big question is whether Bruce Allen is fired or not. He is the key to the dysfunction in this team.

With him gone, I think the Redskins HC have some intriguing aspects to a terrible team.

1. Haskins & McLaurin & Steve Sims - all rookies and all who ended the season on a very high level. Building block for the offense.

2. #2 draft pick-either Chase Young or Trade Down for a lot of current and future picks. Further draft picks for Trent Williams and Kerrigan.

3. FA dump down - trading or just dumping most of the FA’s frees up $80-90 mill in cap

4. Kyle Smith -head of scouting. Whether he moves up to the GM, he has proved he has a nose to draft good to very good picks. Most of the 2019 draft class played this year. Some played very well (see -#1 above - all rookies) and will survive the HC transformation.

This team has good aspects to move into the 2020. But only if Bruce Allen is fired - completely. Everything else is rubbish!


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No way should Allen stay. 3-7 doesn't cut it for any team. Time to blow up the coaching front office. Get a real GM who can then get his head coach and front office (some can be retained) and in turn can get his coaching staff.... The best thing would be Snyder to sell the team but I don't see that happening :(

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A lot of Urban talk on the radio today.

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 

[QUOTE=OmahaRedskins;1240617]A lot of Urban talk on the radio today.[/QUOTE]Who was saying what?

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[quote=Chico23231;1233480]No way on Tomlin...he had overly talented teams and got nowhere. Would be a terrible hire[/quote]

Super Bowl is somewhere and this year they will make the playoffs with losing just about every impact player on the roster. 3 string QB too.

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[url]https://twitter.com/thesportsgroove/status/1209947479963242497[/url]

[quote=Twitter jockey]
SOURCE: #HTTR will fire entire coaching staff Monday & name Urban Meyer coach. Expect a front office shakeup too with a change in Director of Player Personnel w/a promotion from within. Alex Smith moving to front office. Decision made in Bahamas by Snyder.
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I don't want to endorse what I believe to be a dumbshit rumor but I think it's worth discussing.

If this scenario does happen I will solidly be in the "Dan Snyder hasn't learned a single goddamn thing in 20 years" camp.

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You had me at "...Will fire the entire coaching staff Monday".
That's all I really need right now.

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[quote=jamf;1240625]You had me at "...Will fire the entire coaching staff Monday".
That's all I really need right now.[/quote]

this.

but please add bruce allen fired as well.

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Here's a nice list of potential candidates for teams in search of a new head coach. We can eliminate Raheem Morris from the list since he was promoted to defense coordinator for Falcons today. Also we can forget about Saleh, there's no way he will come here.

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001091785/article/nfl-head-coach-candidates-to-know-before-carousel-gets-going[/url]

I am not sure who I want.. I just want a coach who wants to rebuild the Redskins program from scratch, and will bring in coordinators/position coaches who can utilize players well.

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[quote=mooby;1240623][url]https://twitter.com/thesportsgroove/status/1209947479963242497[/url]



I don't want to endorse what I believe to be a dumbshit rumor but I think it's worth discussing.

If this scenario does happen I will solidly be in the "Dan Snyder hasn't learned a single goddamn thing in 20 years" camp.[/quote]

Wouldn't Redskins violate the Rooney rule if they do this?

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Twitter sources are always spot on.