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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1289893]Our defense is overrated. Didn't matter what he called.

You can throw the ball at will against our back 7.[/quote]

Called that a few days ago.. I'm sad that was the outcome but in today's offense friendly NFL.. if you don't have a good D scheme a quick passing O (majority of the league) will eat you alive. Sorry to say but we were a few years too late drafting young and have sweat ... unless they are unblockalble they are almost invisible.

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Did Jamin Davis play today? I don't recall seeing him even mentioned.

I respect him as a man, but we pulled an Al Davis move, drafting him in the 1st.

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I can't believe some of the comments here, we lost to a damn good team. Yeah our defense was disappointing, especially the DB's. Herbert gets rid of that ball quick giving our pass rush no chance. It's one game from 17 this season.

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Little bit shocked, but not surprised. We all knew Herbert was a baller going in…

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Herbert was getting it out quick. But when the game was on the line, when you need a stop, you get a rush and make him uncomfortable. No rush, no coverage on 3rd and 16. I watched the dude on Tampa Vita Vea put the Cowboys o-line on roller skates. We don't have anyone that can do that.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1289913]Hurts went off against Atlanta. He isn't doing that against better teams.

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Concur. Not to mention, I don't always take too much from Week 1 as it's an extension of the preseason.

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If the refs hadn't had such a poor game it would have been even worse. The PI on Samuel's was ticky tack, the fumble out of the endzone was bogus. I know they missed some key ones too like face masks and holds, but ultimately we gained from their bad calls.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1289918]Herbert was getting it out quick. But when the game was on the line, when you need a stop, you get a rush and make him uncomfortable. No rush, no coverage on 3rd and 16. I watched the dude on Tampa Vita Vea put the Cowboys o-line on roller skates. We don't have anyone that can do that.[/quote]


I'll have to go back and watch but I think we were in a zone. Chase Young also got mugged on that particular play.

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Oline in pass pro was a fucking embarrassment.

Turner got stale on play call. We ran too much on first down.

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Taylor gives us as good a chance to win as Fitz .. I’m not sure we would ever got the lead with Fitz .. now whether Taylor can stay healthy is the big question.. Fitz didn’t last a half ..the dysfunction of this team is the missed opportunity to get a young franchise Qb .. we continue to draft D … and that D I watched today is not good at all …

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1289916]I can't believe some of the comments here, we lost to a damn good team. Yeah our defense was disappointing, especially the DB's. Herbert gets rid of that ball quick giving our pass rush no chance. It's one game from 17 this season.[/quote]

Sorry but they had to come all the way across country and play a 10am game. no more excuses. The refs tried to hand us the game and we still could not close.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1289922]Oline in pass pro was a fucking embarrassment.



Turner got stale on play call. We ran too much on first down.[/QUOTE]I wish we got rid of Turner this week. :(

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It’s one game and we could bounce back Thursday but overall it’s a bad loss, they came across country and we were the team that looked flat. In fact other than 4,17,24 nobody else even looked like they had life. Very odd

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1289924]Sorry but they had to come all the way across country and play a 10am game. no more excuses. The refs tried to hand us the game and we still could not close.[/QUOTE]


Exactly

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[quote=skinsfan69;1289924]Sorry but they had to come all the way across country and play a 10am game. no more excuses. The refs tried to hand us the game and we still could not close.[/quote]

That's what professionals are supposed to do. There are no excuses, the D didn't do their job, DB's were getting eaten alive, Keenan Allen, Mike Davis and Guyton made some great catches.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1289916]I can't believe some of the comments here, we lost to a damn good team. Yeah our defense was disappointing, especially the DB's. Herbert gets rid of that ball quick giving our pass rush no chance. It's one game from 17 this season.[/quote]

I know there is a lot of pressure on the defense given the talent they have, but the offense just made some boneheaded mistakes that I think contributed more to the loss:

- In the drive where Hopkins missed the 53-yard FG, B. Scherff had two penalties, including a hold that basically started the decline of that drive.

- Gibson fumbling after WJ3's pick was unforgivable and back breaking.

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I hope they take their frustrations from today out on the Gnats. Is it possible to have a must win game in week 2? [emoji50]

Have to find a way to bounce back. And the D needs to come alive and set the tone.


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If it wasn’t for the 2 Red zone takeaways that game would have been a blowout

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[quote=skinsfan69;1289895]i don't think that was what costs the game. it an inability to get off the field on 3rd down. you have a 3rd and 16 you get the fuck off the field if you are a good defense.[/quote]

You shouldn't even have to be a good defense for that. Chargers didn't score a lot of points, but they lit our asses up in the passing game, basically all game. I literally had zero surprise when they converted thay easily.

There are lots of ways to look tho, we lost because that's what we do. We're folders. The going gets tough, we lay down. We were 7-9 last year and we still look like that.

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It wasn't the rookies fault, there are 11 guys on defence. Not sure you can justify giving Payne a big contract next year, he just isn't effective enough on an every down basis

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1289933]It wasn't the rookies fault, there are 11 guys on defence. Not sure you can justify giving Payne a big contract next year, he just isn't effective enough on an every down basis[/QUOTE]I expected Payne and Ionnaidis to crash the middle of the line every down. Never saw them in the backfield

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[quote=Ruhskins;1289929]I know there is a lot of pressure on the defense given the talent they have, but the offense just made some boneheaded mistakes that I think contributed more to the loss:

- In the drive where Hopkins missed the 53-yard FG, B. Scherff had two penalties, including a hold that basically started the decline of that drive.

- Gibson fumbling after WJ3's pick was unforgivable and back breaking.[/quote]

True, McKissick was barely used today.

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[quote=Chico23231;1289922]Turner got stale on play call. We ran too much on first down.[/quote]

I said that in the first quarter.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1289929]I know there is a lot of pressure on the defense given the talent they have, but the offense just made some boneheaded mistakes that I think contributed more to the loss:

- In the drive where Hopkins missed the 53-yard FG, B. Scherff had two penalties, including a hold that basically started the decline of that drive.

- Gibson fumbling after WJ3's pick was unforgivable and back breaking.[/quote]

Sorry but you have 3rd and 16 when they're back up you have to stop them and get the ball back to the offense. That is just totally inexcusable to let someone get a 3rd and 16 when the game is on the line. You are suppose to have a great line you pressure the QB and get off the field.

Offense sucked too but I put more on the guys that get all the hype. They got abused on 3rd down. I didn't see J Allen or Payne do a damn thing all day.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1289933]It wasn't the rookies fault, there are 11 guys on defence. Not sure you can justify giving Payne a big contract next year, he just isn't effective enough on an every down basis[/quote]

Neither is Allen but he already got paid.

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[quote=calia;1289930]I hope they take their frustrations from today out on the Gnats. Is it possible to have a must win game in week 2? [emoji50]

Have to find a way to bounce back. And the D needs to come alive and set the tone.


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Defense needs to do better, but in reality they just gave up 13 points to the Chargers. Those last 7 points happened because Gibson fumbled the f*cking ball in our own red zone.

Offense needs to stop making boneheaded/backbreaking mistakes.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1289938]Neither is Allen but he already got paid.[/quote]

I would trade Payne next year and pay Settle who I think should be starting.

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I would rather keep Settle and Ionnidis than pay Payne and let them walk

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1289925]I wish we got rid of Turner this week. :(

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Turner is probably the first player/coach we need to replace. The offense runs through him and he is fairly clueless.

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[quote=ruhskins;1289940]defense needs to do better, but in reality they just gave up 13 points to the chargers. Those last 7 points happened because gibson fumbled the f*cking ball in our own red zone.

Offense needs to stop making boneheaded/backbreaking mistakes.[/quote]

+1000

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1289940]Defense needs to do better, but in reality they just gave up 13 points to the Chargers. Those last 7 points happened because Gibson fumbled the f*cking ball in our own red zone.



Offense needs to stop making boneheaded/backbreaking mistakes.[/QUOTE]Well they lost points on a bogus fumble in the endzone call. And if they hadn't run out of time they could easily have added more points on the last drive. Our D didn't have an answer at all.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1289478]I will be more disappointed if our defense doesn't play up to expectations then the offense. I know the Chargers have an awesome QB, and strong skill positions. The defense has to show up and make a statement for the league to hear. The offense, I just don't want it to suck.

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On a scale of 1-10 how disappointed are you right now?

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If Fitz is out for any legit time, I wouldn’t be opposed to them calling Cam Newton. Seriously

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[QUOTE=mooby;1289947]On a scale of 1-10 how disappointed are you right now?[/QUOTE]7.5

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1289948]If Fitz is out for any legit time, I wouldn’t be opposed to them calling Cam Newton. Seriously[/QUOTE]Nah. Heinicke and Allen all the way. If the team fails then we look to the draft. If either succeeds Great!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1289951]Nah. Heinicke and Allen all the way. If the team fails then we look to the draft. If either succeeds Great!

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I don't trust Heinicke or Allen's ability to stay healthy. That was my hope for Fitz, since he's been pretty durable in the past, but here we are.

Also, I hope reps with the #1 team help Heinecke, so he can throw the ball to other receivers, besides Dyami Brown, in contested downs.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1289915]Did Jamin Davis play today? I don't recall seeing him even mentioned.

I respect him as a man, [B]but we pulled an Al Davis move,[/B] drafting him in the 1st.[/quote]

It's too early to say that. Yeah he hasn't made any plays so far but you can't be quitting on a rookie after his first pro game. At least give him half the year before calling him out for not having an impact.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1289948]If Fitz is out for any legit time, I wouldn’t be opposed to them calling Cam Newton. Seriously[/quote]

Why you wanna do some dumb shit like that? Implying the qb play is the thing holding this team back? Implying Heinicke doesn't deserve an opportunity to show what he has?

This is dumb on multiple levels.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1289951]Nah. Heinicke and Allen all the way. If the team fails then we look to the draft. If either succeeds Great!

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+1

Even at best Fitzpatrick is a gap qb. And Heinicke is still an unknown. Unless Heinicke throws for 4k and 30+ td's this year I doubt he's our long-term starter too.

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[quote=mooby;1289969]Why you wanna do some dumb shit like that? Implying the qb play is the thing holding this team back? Implying Heinicke doesn't deserve an opportunity to show what he has?

This is dumb on multiple levels.[/quote]

No because Taylor got hurt after 1 start last yr and Allen was also Injured, if TH goes down next week, then what? Bring Cam in as insurance and lets be honest he's prob better than Fitz