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[quote=Giantone;1365978]Harris did well in the combative FOX interview. She proved Her administration will be different then Biden's and she sure as hell answered question unlike trump when she was allowed to answer them. Face it to the Harris deniers She is more Presidential then trump or any other Candidate out their right now.

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/16/us/politics/kamala-harris-fox-news-interview.html[/url]

Would trump get the same treatment from FOX?[/quote]

This whole post has to be satire or your hate for Trump has completely separated you from reality.

Those are the only 2 choices.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366130]This whole post has to be satire or your hate for Trump has completely separated you from reality.

Those are the only 2 choices.[/quote]

My hate for trump is real but that has nothing to do with this. Not sure if it's your arrogance or ignorance that makes you say that, I bet the later. You think trump has netter interviews, you don't think Bret Biar purposely or FOX messed up the clip? She caught it and she didn't take schitt. You vote for anyone else it's ignorance.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366130]This whole post has to be satire or your hate for Trump has completely separated you from reality.

Those are the only 2 choices.[/quote]

Hmmmmm, who should we listen to, you or .........

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/23-nobel-prize-winning-economists-090101266.html[/url]

[B]23 Nobel Prize-winning economists call Harris’ economic plan ‘vastly superior’ to Trump’s[/B]

[B]More than half of the living US recipients of the Nobel Prize for economics signed a letter that called Vice President Kamala Harris’ economic agenda “vastly superior” to the plans laid out by former President Donald Trump[/B].

Twenty-three Nobel Prize-winning economists signed onto the letter, including two of the three most recent recipients.

“While each of us has different views on the particulars of various economic policies, we believe that, overall, Harris’ economic agenda will improve our nation’s health, investment, sustainability, resilience, employment opportunities, and fairness and be vastly superior to the counterproductive economic agenda of Donald Trump,” the economists write in the letter obtained by CNN.

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Republicans starting the Cheat early...........

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/republicans-press-ahead-bid-block-205305267.html[/url]

[B]Republicans to press ahead in bid to block some overseas ballots[/B]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republicans on Tuesday vowed to appeal court rulings rejecting their efforts to block some Americans living abroad from voting in North Carolina and Michigan, part of an aggressive legal campaign by the party ahead of the Nov. 5 election.

The Republican National Committee had filed lawsuits in the two battleground states, as well as the crucial state of Pennsylvania, challenging what they call illegal overseas voting.

On Monday, judges in Michigan and North Carolina said the RNC had no grounds to challenge the states' election statutes, and found the party failed to show it would suffer irreparable harm.

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[quote=Giantone;1366139]My hate for trump is real but that has nothing to do with this. Not sure if it's your arrogance or ignorance that makes you say that, I bet the later. You think trump has netter interviews, you don't think Bret Biar purposely or FOX messed up the clip? She caught it and she didn't take schitt. You vote for anyone else it's ignorance.[/quote]

G1, I don't run here and try to pump sunshine up your ass about every Trump or any republican interview. All of us on both sides saw the Brett Baier interview. Outside of you lying about how great Kamala was (then me responding), no one here even mentioned the interview. Trump has actually turned you into Trump. You are simply no longer capable of being reasonable. You let Trump break you.

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[quote=Giantone;1366171]Hmmmmm, who should we listen to, you or .........

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/23-nobel-prize-winning-economists-090101266.html[/url]

23 Nobel Prize-winning economists call Harris’ economic plan ‘vastly superior’ to Trump’s

More than half of the living US recipients of the Nobel Prize for economics signed a letter that called Vice President Kamala Harris’ economic agenda “vastly superior” to the plans laid out by former President Donald Trump[/B].

Twenty-three Nobel Prize-winning economists signed onto the letter, including two of the three most recent recipients.

“While each of us has different views on the particulars of various economic policies, we believe that, overall, Harris’ economic agenda will improve our nation’s health, investment, sustainability, resilience, employment opportunities, and fairness and be vastly superior to the counterproductive economic agenda of Donald Trump,” the economists write in the letter obtained by CNN.[/quote]

A. What the fuck does that have to do with the Brett Baier interview?

B. What is Harris' economic plan? Noble prizes don't mean a fucking thing. No conservative would ever win one of those. A noble prize is essentially an award given to the liberal who makes other liberals the happiest that year. If I'm wrong, please let me know the last year a conservative won that "prize" for economics.

Is she actually going to lower the taxes even lower than Trump did? Because I have already shown here that anyone in the middle or lower (outside of basically not paying taxes) is the lowest it has been for at least 30 years. Is she going to lower it even further? Of course not. She, like all democrats, use phrases like "fair share", but never put any actual definitions on it.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366199]A. What the fuck does that have to do with the Brett Baier interview?

B.[B] What is Harris' economic plan? Noble prizes don't mean a fucking thing. No conservative would ever win one of those. A noble prize is essentially an award given to the liberal who makes other liberals the happiest that year. If I'm wrong, please let me know the last year a conservative won that "prize" for economics.[/B]

Is she actually going to lower the taxes even lower than Trump did? Because I have already shown here that anyone in the middle or lower (outside of basically not paying taxes) is the lowest it has been for at least 30 years. Is she going to lower it even further? Of course not. She, like all democrats, use phrases like "fair share", but never put any actual definitions on it.[/quote]




A) It has nothing to do with Brett Baier, where did I say it does?

B) WOW so you know more about trumps Tax plain then not one World Famous Nobel winner in Economics, no you know more than 23 of them. Do you know what a moron you sound like , did you even READ THE LINK? Hell no becuase you're late night drunk posting again. Admit it, you know nothing.

[url]https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/nobel-prize-economists-harris-economic-plan/index.html[/url]

The letter is intentionally brief at just 228 words, which reflects both an effort to secure consensus across a broader spectrum of economists and a desire to elevate that consensus with precision, according to a person familiar with the process. The letter was drafted to incorporate feedback from the initial effort.

It also marked an effort in the final days of the campaign to elevate what those involved viewed as an acute risk posed by Trump both in his economic proposals, but also, in their view, of the potential instability he would pose in an area where certainty and stability are paramount.

The letter points to Trump’s tariff and tax policies as inflationary and likely to balloon the federal deficit – a widely held view among economists. But it also issues a stark warning.

“Among the most important determinants of economic success are the rule of law and economic and political certainty, and Trump threatens all of these,” the economists write.

[B]Despite the warnings and forecasts from economists[SIZE="6"] across the political spectrum,[/B][/SIZE] Trump has been steadfast in his pledge to wield threats of sweeping tariffs as a cornerstone of his economic agenda.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366199]A. What the fuck does that have to do with the Brett Baier interview?

B.[B] What is Harris' economic plan? Noble prizes don't mean a fucking thing. No conservative would ever win one of those. A noble prize is essentially an award given to the liberal who makes other liberals the happiest that year. If I'm wrong, please let me know the last year a conservative won that "prize" for economics.[/B]

Is she actually going to lower the taxes even lower than Trump did? Because basically I have already shown here that anyone in the middle or lower (outside of not paying taxes) is the lowest it has been for at least 30 years. Is she going to lower it even further? Of course not. She, like all democrats, use phrases like "fair share", but never put any actual definitions on it.[/quote]




A) It has nothing to do with Brett Baier, where did I say it does?

B) WOW so you know more about trumps Tax plain then not one World Famous Nobel winner in Economics, no you know more than 23 of them. Do you know what a moron you sound like , did you even READ THE LINK? Hell no becuase you're late night drunk posting again. Admit it, you know nothing.

[url]https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/nobel-prize-economists-harris-economic-plan/index.html[/url]

The letter is intentionally brief at just 228 words, which reflects both an effort to secure consensus across a broader spectrum of economists and a desire to elevate that consensus with precision, according to a person familiar with the process. The letter was drafted to incorporate feedback from the initial effort.

It also marked an effort in the final days of the campaign to elevate what those involved viewed as an acute risk posed by Trump both in his economic proposals, but also, in their view, of the potential instability he would pose in an area where certainty and stability are paramount.

The letter points to Trump’s tariff and tax policies as inflationary and likely to balloon the federal deficit – a widely held view among economists. But it also issues a stark warning.

“Among the most important determinants of economic success are the rule of law and economic and political certainty, and Trump threatens all of these,” the economists write.

[B]Despite the warnings and forecasts from economists[SIZE="6"] across the political spectrum,[/B][/SIZE] Trump has been steadfast in his pledge to wield threats of sweeping tariffs as a cornerstone of his economic agenda.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366198]G1, I don't run here and try to pump sunshine up your ass about every Trump or any republican interview. All of us on both sides saw the Brett Baier interview. Outside of you lying about how great Kamala was (then me responding), no one here even mentioned the interview. Trump has actually turned you into Trump. You are simply no longer capable of being reasonable. You let Trump break you.[/quote]


Try looking into a mirror sober.

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[quote=Giantone;1366200]A) It has nothing to do with Brett Baier, where did I say it does?

B) WOW so you know more about trumps Tax plain then not one World Famous Nobel winner in Economics, no you know more than 23 of them. Do you know what a moron you sound like , did you even READ THE LINK? Hell no becuase you're late night drunk posting again. Admit it, you know nothing.

[url]https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/nobel-prize-economists-harris-economic-plan/index.html[/url]

The letter is intentionally brief at just 228 words, which reflects both an effort to secure consensus across a broader spectrum of economists and a desire to elevate that consensus with precision, according to a person familiar with the process. The letter was drafted to incorporate feedback from the initial effort.

It also marked an effort in the final days of the campaign to elevate what those involved viewed as an acute risk posed by Trump both in his economic proposals, but also, in their view, of the potential instability he would pose in an area where certainty and stability are paramount.

The letter points to Trump’s tariff and tax policies as inflationary and likely to balloon the federal deficit – a widely held view among economists. But it also issues a stark warning.

“Among the most important determinants of economic success are the rule of law and economic and political certainty, and Trump threatens all of these,” the economists write.

[B]Despite the warnings and forecasts from economists[SIZE="6"] across the political spectrum,[/B][/SIZE] Trump has been steadfast in his pledge to wield threats of sweeping tariffs as a cornerstone of his economic agenda.[/quote]

We were discussing the interview with Brett Baier, then you went on this tangent about Harris' economic plan. Always trying to control the story. That's why you constantly spam the political threads for going on 8+ years now. Can't wait for 4 more years of it too.

I didn't say anything about Trump's plan. On that note, I do need to read-up more on the exact effects of tariffs. I'm not really for or against them right now. Don't know enough about them to make a decision on them. Not going to vote for Kamala over tariffs though.

Also, Biden has kept most of the same tariffs as Trump implemented. Did Kamala say she was going to get rid of all of them? On one hand she keeps trying to say she's the "change" candidate then on the other hand has said she wouldn't do anything different than Biden. So who knows?

[url]https://taxfoundation.org/blog/biden-trump-tariffs/[/url]

[I]"Accordingly, since they were imposed, the trade war tariffs have raised customs duties collections by around $233 billion through March 2024.

Of that $233 billion, just $89 billion was collected during the Trump administration. The remaining $144 billion has been collected during the Biden administration."[/I]

Lastly, the fact that Paul Krugman has a Nobel Peace Prize says all I need to know about the value of that award. And 23 is not some amazing number. There are hundreds if not thousands of economists in the USA. Not very hard to find 23 mostly, if not all professors (whom hopefully we can admit are predominantly liberal), to sign that.

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[quote=Giantone;1366202]Try looking into a mirror sober.[/quote]

My late-night posts are more coherent than any drivel you post at any time of the day. I don't start work until 9:30 a.m. (and I work from home), so I am up every night until midnight/1 a.m. every day. So yes, most of my political posts are at nighttime because I don't want to discuss politics while I'm working.

Get some new material, you boring-ass, old, simpleton.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366208]We were discussing the interview with Brett Baier, then you went on this tangent about Harris' economic plan. Always trying to control the story. That's why you constantly spam the political threads for going on 8+ years now. Can't wait for 4 more years of it too.

I didn't say anything about Trump's plan. On that note, I do need to read-up more on the exact effects of tariffs. I'm not really for or against them right now. Don't know enough about them to make a decision on them. Not going to vote for Kamala over tariffs though.

Also, Biden has kept most of the same tariffs as Trump implemented. Did Kamala say she was going to get rid of all of them? On one hand she keeps trying to say she's the "change" candidate then on the other hand has said she wouldn't do anything different than Biden. So who knows?

[url]https://taxfoundation.org/blog/biden-trump-tariffs/[/url]

[I]"Accordingly, since they were imposed, the trade war tariffs have raised customs duties collections by around $233 billion through March 2024.

Of that $233 billion, just $89 billion was collected during the Trump administration. The remaining $144 billion has been collected during the Biden administration."[/I]

Lastly, the fact that Paul Krugman has a Nobel Peace Prize says all I need to know about the value of that award. And 23 is not some amazing number. There are hundreds if not thousands of economists in the USA. Not very hard to find 23 mostly, if not all professors (whom hopefully we can admit are predominantly liberal), to sign that.[/quote]

You ignorance is astounding. You realize the Nobel is not just a "USA" prize. it's a World Wide award given to the "Best in the World" in their Fields. The fact you have the ignorance to assume that :" Not very hard to find 23 mostly, if not all professors (whom hopefully we can admit are predominantly liberal), to sign that". Seems people smarter then you threaten you so you attempt to tear them down, you're not very good at it. Had you read what I posted you would see[B][SIZE="6"] it is across the political spectrum[/SIZE][/B] so your Liberal comment is ignorant as well.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366209]My late-night posts are more coherent than any drivel you post at any time of the day. I don't start work until 9:30 a.m. (and I work from home), so I am up every night until midnight/1 a.m. every day. So yes, most of my political posts are at nighttime because I don't want to discuss politics while I'm working.

Get some new material, you boring-ass, old, simpleton.[/quote]

LOL, gives you time to sober up, good for you.

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[quote=Giantone;1366214]You ignorance is astounding. You realize the Nobel is not just a "USA" prize. it's a World Wide award given to the "Best in the World" in their Fields. The fact you have the ignorance to assume that :" Not very hard to find 23 mostly, if not all professors (whom hopefully we can admit are predominantly liberal), to sign that". Seems people smarter then you threaten you so you attempt to tear them down, you're not very good at it. Had you read what I posted you would see[B][SIZE="6"] it is across the political spectrum[/SIZE][/B] so your Liberal comment is ignorant as well.[/quote]

I am well aware the Nobel Prize is world-wide. But I just assumed the 23 people that signed it were U.S. winners as it was for a U.S. economic plan. Definitely don't care what an economist from another country thinks is best for us. Of the 23 people that signed, what countries were they from? Which of the 23 are conservative? Just using a broad term like "across the political spectrum" doesn't make it true. You know damn well if you looked up these 23 people, at least 90% of them would be liberal. This is like getting Adam Kinzinger to sign a bill written by a democrat(s) and then stating the bill has bi-partisan support.

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I'd much rather hear from small-business owners that actually own businesses.

[url]https://sbiqpoll.jcnf.org/monthly-monitor/september-2024/[/url]

New September polling from the Job Creators Network Foundation (JCNF) finds Donald Trump holds a 12-point lead ahead of Kamala Harris among small businesses nationwide. More specifically, 51 percent of respondents say Trump would do a better job helping small businesses while 39 percent say the same about Harris.

Thirty-five percent of small businesses surveyed self-describe themselves as Republicans, 30 percent as Democrats, and 33 percent as Independents.

Additionally, the Small Business Intelligence Quotient (SBIQ), an index tracking overall small business sentiment about the economy, dropped for the first time since last November. The indicator now stands at 56.4, with metrics measuring both current conditions and future expectations dipping in September.

Other key takeaways include:

- 84 percent of small businesses say crime has either increased or stayed the same, calling into question the media narrative that crime rates are falling.

- By a two-to-one margin, small businesses oppose government price controls.

- A majority of small businesses (58 percent) support extending the Tax Cuts and Job Act.

Note - The article does have some other polls included as well.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366232]I am well aware the Nobel Prize is world-wide. But I just assumed the 23 people that signed it were U.S. winners as it was for a U.S. economic plan. Definitely don't care what an economist from another country thinks is best for us. Of the 23 people that signed, what countries were they from? Which of the 23 are conservative? Just using a broad term like "across the political spectrum" doesn't make it true. You know damn well if you looked up these 23 people, at least 90% of them would be liberal. This is like getting Adam Kinzinger to sign a bill written by a democrat(s) and then stating the bill has bi-partisan support.[/quote]

Your cherry picking is making your conversation very incoherent. You still have not read the link. The letter was signed it is across the political spectrum your Liberal comment is ignorant as well .Your entire post has no fact just hateful political agenda and assumption. Which by the way is right out of the MAGA playbook.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366234]I'd much rather hear from small-business owners that actually own businesses.

[url]https://sbiqpoll.jcnf.org/monthly-monitor/september-2024/[/url]
.[/quote]

LOL you need to check out your link. None of it's true.

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[quote=Giantone;1366241]Your cherry picking is making your conversation very incoherent. You still have not read the link. The letter was signed it is across the political spectrum your Liberal comment is ignorant as well .Your entire post has no fact just hateful political agenda and assumption. Which by the way is right out of the MAGA playbook.[/quote]

Again, just saying it's across the political spectrum, doesn't make it valid and can absolutely be misleading. If you have even 1 conservative among the 23, you can state it's across the political spectrum, but that does not mean there clearly isn't a biased slant overall on the people that signed it.

Again if 1 democrat signs a republican bill or visa-versa, you could technically say that is a bi-partisan bill, even if every single other congress-person of that party voted against it.

So using a broad generic term doesn't mean anything. Since you value those 23 people so much, seems like you would be interested in knowing their political beliefs. But you know I'm right so you won't care to look.

I'm not cherry-picking anything. That's what you do in all your post. You search the internet every day and bombard us with a bunch of posts just confirming what you already agreed with before you posted it. Anyone here can find links that support what they already believe.

But when anyone else posts something that you disagree with, somehow none of that is correct.

I posted a link to polls that were done in September. Are you saying that link says that their own polls they conducted are incorrect? Please highlight where that link says the poll of small-business owners I quoted is incorrect. Would be rather weird for a site to say their own poll is completely wrong.

And lastly, I know you do it to be grating and condescending but stop starting so many posts with lol. Grow up and stop acting like a school-girl.

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[B][SIZE="6"]13 former Trump administration officials sign open letter backing up John Kelly's criticism of Trump[/SIZE][/B]



[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/13-former-trump-administration-officials-125310694.html[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1366256]13 former Trump administration officials sign open letter backing up John Kelly's criticism of Trump.

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/13-former-trump-administration-officials-125310694.html[/url][/quote]

You can have all 13 of those deep-state, pro-war, fake conservatives. We have traded all 13 to you for a 1 real-American, Tulsi Gabbard. Done and done.

Tulsi Gabbard Makes Shocking Switch—‘I’m Done with Democrats, It’s Time for Real Change!’ as She Joins the GOP

[url]https://www.econotimes.com/Tulsi-Gabbard-Makes-Shocking-SwitchIm-Done-with-Democrats-Its-Time-for-Real-Change-as-She-Joins-the-GOP-1691545[/url]

Also, no one cares about John Kelly altogether. Just a bitter old cry-baby.

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-slams-john-kelly-who-warned-about-ex-president-s-fitness-for-office/ar-AA1sWwJX[/url]

[I]“And he’s a whack job, total whack job,” Trump said, adding: “It’s funny, when you fire people … when you fire people for doing a bad job, they get a little bit angry. … But he was a nutjob to start off with.”[/I]

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/ex-trump-officials-back-john-kelly-remarks-1975018[/url]

[I]Steven Cheung, Trump's campaign spokesperson, told Newsweek on Friday, "This is nothing more than disgruntled, former low-level employees who had remarkably undistinguished careers in government and are now trying to survive as Never Trump pundits fighting over cable news contracts."[/I]

One of Trump's biggest errors was his initial hirings. This guy should have never had the job in the 1st place. There are quite a few people he hired that should have never been hired.

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Also, I can do the same thing. Again, anyone can find articles that state what they already believe:

Harris’s Personnel Problem: Over 90 Percent of VP’s Staff Left in Last Three Years

[url]https://www.nationalreview.com/news/harriss-personnel-problem-over-90-percent-of-vps-staff-left-in-last-three-years/[/url]

[I]Throughout her career as a senator and then vice president, Kamala Harris developed a reputation as a difficult boss who struggles to retain staff due to the atmosphere of suspicion and disorder that tends to develop among her subordinates.

Data from the government watchdog group Open the Books — released Monday, as Harris consolidates her position as President Biden's successor atop the Democratic ticket — makes clear just how extreme Harris's personnel problem really is: 91.5 percent of the staff Harris began her vice presidential term with three years ago have since left.[/I]

Her own staff hated her too, so I guess they should both drop-out of the race.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366261]You can have all 13 of those deep-state, pro-war, fake conservatives. We have traded all 13 to you for a 1 real-American, Tulsi Gabbard. Done and done.

Tulsi Gabbard Makes Shocking Switch—‘I’m Done with Democrats, It’s Time for Real Change!’ as She Joins the GOP

[url]https://www.econotimes.com/Tulsi-Gabbard-Makes-Shocking-SwitchIm-Done-with-Democrats-Its-Time-for-Real-Change-as-She-Joins-the-GOP-1691545[/url]

[B]Also, no one cares about John Kelly altogether. Just a bitter old cry-baby[/B].

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-slams-john-kelly-who-warned-about-ex-president-s-fitness-for-office/ar-AA1sWwJX[/url]

[B][I]“And he’s a whack job, total whack job,” Trump said, adding: “It’s funny, when you fire people … when you fire people for doing a bad job, they get a little bit angry. … But he was a nutjob to start off with.”[/I][/B]

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/ex-trump-officials-back-john-kelly-remarks-1975018[/url]

[I]Steven Cheung, Trump's campaign spokesperson, told Newsweek on Friday, "This is nothing more than disgruntled, former low-level employees who had remarkably undistinguished careers in government and are now trying to survive as Never Trump pundits fighting over cable news contracts."[/I]

One of Trump's biggest errors was his initial hirings. This guy should have never had the job in the 1st place. There are quite a few people he hired that should have never been hired.[/quote]


Having staff leave is one thing , these guys were in trumps Cabinet. Again your failed attempt to justify and defend trump shows your true MAGA faith.

From your own post. "]Steven Cheung, Trump's campaign spokesperson, told Newsweek on Friday, "This is nothing more than disgruntled, former low-level employees who had remarkably undistinguished careers in government and are now trying to survive as Never Trump pundits fighting over cable news contracts"

[B][SIZE="6"]President Trump’s 'A Team': Turnover from year to year[/SIZE][/B]

[url]https://www.brookings.edu/articles/tracking-turnover-in-the-trump-administration/[/url]

Not very many "low level" people but maybe you don't understand what low level means?

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[B]More than 1,000 faith leaders endorse Harris as vice president leans on her faith to turn out Black voters[/B]

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/more-1-000-faith-leaders-120047072.html[/url]


Sun, October 27, 2024 at 8:00 AM EDT·5 min read
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More than a thousand religious leaders endorsed Kamala Harris on Sunday, bolstering the Democratic presidential nominee’s push to emphasize how faith is informing her campaign ahead of next week’s election.

Among those backing the vice president is the Rev. William J. Barber II, a North Carolina-based faith leader who has pushed the Biden administration to call for a ceasefire in Gaza.

“In a moment like this, I am compelled to be clear that every voter must make a choice, and my choice is to oppose the dangerous politics that (Donald) Trump and the MAGA movement have unleashed by supporting the ticket that can defeat this potential for American fascism,” Barber said in a statement to CNN, while stressing that he was backing Harris in his personal capacity.

The endorsements come as Harris has been leaning on her faith – and her ties to Black faith communities – as she seeks to turn out Black voters in her closing pitch.

The vice president, who attended a Black Baptist church in Oakland growing up, appeared with her longtime pastor, the Rev. Amos C. Brown III of San Francisco’s Third Baptist Church, as part of a “souls to the polls” push in Georgia last weekend, a widespread effort to engage Black churchgoers in swing states.

And in comments at a Black church in West Philadelphia on Sunday, Harris “will continue to emphasize the importance of putting faith into action this campaign,” according to a senior campaign official.

Harris has alluded to faith throughout her campaign. The vice president said during a CNN town hall last week that after President Joe Biden called her this summer to say he would no longer seek reelection, she called Brown, seeking advice and prayer. Asked by CNN’s Anderson Cooper whether she prays every day, Harris said she does.

“Sometimes twice a day,” she said. “I was raised to believe in a loving God, to believe that your faith is a verb.”

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366261]You can have all 13 of those deep-state, pro-war, fake conservatives. We have traded all 13 to you for a 1 real-American, Tulsi Gabbard. Done and done.

Tulsi Gabbard Makes Shocking Switch—‘I’m Done with Democrats, It’s Time for Real Change!’ as She Joins the GOP

[url]https://www.econotimes.com/Tulsi-Gabbard-Makes-Shocking-SwitchIm-Done-with-Democrats-Its-Time-for-Real-Change-as-She-Joins-the-GOP-1691545[/url]

Also, no one cares about John Kelly altogether. Just a bitter old cry-baby.

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-slams-john-kelly-who-warned-about-ex-president-s-fitness-for-office/ar-AA1sWwJX[/url]


[I]“And he’s a whack job, total whack job,” Trump said, adding: “It’s funny, when you fire people … when you fire people for doing a bad job, they get a little bit angry. … But he was a nutjob to start off with.”[/I]

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/ex-trump-officials-back-john-kelly-remarks-1975018[/url]

[I]Steven Cheung, Trump's campaign spokesperson, told Newsweek on Friday, "This is nothing more than disgruntled, former low-level employees who had remarkably undistinguished careers in government and are now trying to survive as Never Trump pundits fighting over cable news contracts."[/I]

One of Trump's biggest errors was his initial hirings. This guy should have never had the job in the 1st place. There are quite a few people he hired that should have never been hired.[/quote]

Ok you are sounding very MAGAish now. That is the one thing I never understood about MAGA, how they would believe a known inveterate liar over senior Military officers and many other senior people who worked directly for Trump. Not only that Trump actually has publicly disparaged vets and the Military on many occasions. So why the heck would you believe him over multiple witnesses when he claims he never said Vets were suckers and losers?

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trump's sit down with Joe Rogan supplied us with much more BS but here are some interesting bits.

1) Open to dumping the Federal Income tax.

The truth.....[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/trump-floats-ending-federal-income-234139944.html[/url]

“So even the new revenues from Trump’s next round of tariffs may not provide much net budget savings,” he continued.

Even without eliminating the federal income tax, Trump’s economic package would increase the national debt by $7.5 trillion over a decade, according to a recent analysis by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. The nonpartisan watchdog group estimates that his tariffs proposal would bring in $2.7 trillion over 10 years.

2) Election lies...........

[url]https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/oct/26/fact-checking-donald-trumps-claims-about-the-2020/[/url]

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[quote=nonniey;1366272]Ok you are sounding very MAGAish now. That is the one thing I never understood about MAGA, how they would believe a known inveterate liar over senior Military officers and many other senior people who worked directly for Trump. Not only that Trump actually has publicly disparaged vets and the Military on many occasions. So why the heck would you believe him over multiple witnesses when he claims he never said Vets were suckers and losers?[/quote]

Why do you care about some pro-war, bitter Karens, over the majority of military voters:

Military veterans remain a Republican group, backing Trump over Harris by wide margin

[url]https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/30/military-veterans-remain-a-republican-group-backing-trump-over-harris-by-wide-margin/[/url]

About six-in-ten registered voters who say they have served in the U.S. military or military reserves (61%) support former President Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election, while 37% back Vice President Kamala Harris, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in early September.

He's an angry ex-GF that also gets paid huge money for government contracts that he clearly benefits more from if Harris is president:

John Kelly, Trump’s ex-chief of staff, joins board of firm running America’s biggest child migrant facility

[url]https://globalnews.ca/news/5239271/john-kelly-board-child-migrant-detention/[/url]

And you can call me MAGA or MAGA'ish all you want, I have said multiple times that I'm not voting for him. But I'm not going to listen to all of this non-sense that Harris is anything less than a horrendous candidate. There is just no way you can watch any interview of hers where there is no teleprompter, where you want her leading the free-world. There just isn't. It's just hating Trump. Cut off your nose to spite your face.

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Donald Trump Is Losing Veterans' Votes. Here's Why

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-losing-veterans-votes-heres-why-opinion-1970084[/url]

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WTF is wrong with this Asshole?

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/trump-promise-young-men-am-173224699.html[/url]


[B]Trump’s Promise to Young Men: I Am Your Retribution Against Women[/B]

[B]If you want to talk about hate messages then keep reading.[/B]

donald Trump’s rally at Madison Square Garden on Sunday was alarming for many reasons, not least for its overt fascism and racism, but it was also, as The New York Times accurately reported, a “carnival” of “misogyny”—one directed at Kamala Harris in particular.

Grant Cardone, a self-styled business guru, likened the Democratic nominee for president to a prostitute, saying that “her pimp handlers will destroy our country.” Another speaker called Harris “the devil” and “the Antichrist.” And Tucker Carlson, the former Fox News host, mocked her racial identity and repeated Trump’s insult that Harris, a former district attorney, state attorney general, senator, and now a vice president, was “low IQ.”

The overt sexism throughout the night, even by the standards of Trump’s nearly decade-long political career, was astonishing. Less surprising, given the campaign he’s run this year, was the figurative crotch-grabbing on display. When Trump running mate JD Vance mentioned Tim Walz, his Democratic counterpart, the crowd erupted into “tampon Tim” chants—to which Vance laughed. (Explainer here, if you need one.) And the “comedian” who opened the rally, Tony Hinchcliffe, said that Latinos “love making babies. There’s no pulling out. They come inside, just like they do to our country.”

These were not simply off-the-cuff remarks; they were very deliberate. It’s all part of Trump’s electoral strategy to Make America Masculine Again. He knows he’s losing women by massive margins, so he’s going after the men—especially, but not exclusively, aggrieved young men who feel they’ve been robbed of their male birthright to power. Trump is giving them license to say whatever they want about women, and his campaign is an implicit promise to give them control over women, including their bodies

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366261]You can have all 13 of those deep-state, pro-war, fake conservatives. We have traded all 13 to you for . One of Trump's biggest errors was his initial hirings. This guy should have never had the job in the 1st place. There are quite a few people he hired that should have never been hired.[/quote]







He is another former well respected Military person shooting down trump!

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/maddow-blog-navy-admiral-bin-191230482.html[/url]
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Navy admiral from bin Laden raid slams Trump in dramatic fashion[/SIZE][/B]


His Op Ed ...............

"The White House is the home of American leadership, where Republican leaders like Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant, Teddy Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush resided. While each of these leaders had his shortcomings and foibles, none of them consistently violated every principle of good leadership like Donald Trump does. Mr. Trump has no self-control. He lashes out at immigrants, religious groups and military heroes. He lies with reckless abandon. In August, in what was outlandish even by Mr. Trump’s standards, he reposted on Truth Social a picture of Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton above a crude sexual joke. Just last week he was regaling a crowd about Arnold Palmer’s anatomy. These are things a disturbed 15-year-old boy would do, not the commander in chief, not the man who holds the nuclear codes, not the leader of the free world."


McRaven’s piece didn’t explicitly endorse Vice President Kamala Harris, but the retired admiral said the Democratic nominee “won’t threaten the press, demean immigrants, mock those who have died for the country, break with our allies, or undermine the Constitution.”

He concluded that he couldn’t vote for Trump.

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[quote=Giantone;1366530]He is another former well respected Military person shooting down trump!

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/maddow-blog-navy-admiral-bin-191230482.html[/url]
[/quote]

200+ fmr. generals, admirals endorse Trump

[url]https://americanmilitarynews.com/2024/10/200-fmr-generals-admirals-endorse-trump/[/url]

200 > 13 + 1

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366541]200+ fmr. generals, admirals endorse Trump

[url]https://americanmilitarynews.com/2024/10/200-fmr-generals-admirals-endorse-trump/[/url]

200 > 13 + 1[/quote]

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/22/national-security-officials-endorse-harris[/url]


More than 700 national security officials endorse Kamala Harris for president
This article is more than 1 month old
Public letter calls VP a candidate who ‘defends America’s democratic ideals’ and says Donald Trump is ‘unfit’ for job

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366541]200+ fmr. generals, admirals endorse Trump

[url]https://americanmilitarynews.com/2024/10/200-fmr-generals-admirals-endorse-trump/[/url]

200 > 13 + 1[/quote]


Mine are the ones that actually know and worked with trump.

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[url]https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/harris-support-retired-us-military-leaders-matters-rcna172990[/url]



[B]Why Harris’ support from retired U.S. military leaders matters[/B]
The highly decorated four-star general who commanded U.S. forces in Afghanistan has endorsed Kamala Harris, and he has plenty of related company.

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Hell of a response. You wonder why people laugh at you, JHC.

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Do you think discounting 200 former military leaders then spamming the board with more of your own links, including moving the goalposts from military leaders to "national security advisors", is an amazing response?

Capped by using the Lord's name in vain (but too soft to actually spell it out)?

You are a goalpost mover. You absolutely discount anything posted that you don't agree with, then do some name-calling, and posting more links that you deem correct. You're Paul Blart, Thread Cop.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366550]Do you think discounting 200 former military leaders then spamming the board with more of your own links, including moving the goalposts from military leaders to "national security advisors", is an amazing response?

Capped by using the Lord's name in vain (but too soft to actually spell it out)?

You are a goalpost mover. You absolutely discount anything posted that you don't agree with, then do some name-calling, and posting more links that you deem correct. You're Paul Blart, Thread Cop.

[IMG]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRW_Ugna1nfwInlOrtJ5O1M364t9uLKQ6zaOA&s[/IMG][/quote]

Face it, your argument is mute and every time that happens you resort to your means and name calling, good for you! I can set my watch by you.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366550]Do you think discounting 200 former military leaders then spamming the board with more of your own links, [/quote]

So you can discount my links but I can't yours and my links are spam but yours are not? How old are you? You would be better off just not posting till next Weds.

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[quote=Giantone;1366552]So you can discount my links but I can't yours and my links are spam but yours are not? How old are you? You would be better off just not posting till next Weds.[/quote]

You discount EVERYONE'S links unless it supports what you think. You respond to EVERYONE'S posts. And you constantly spam the boards. You are Paul Blart.

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[quote=Giantone;1366551]Face it, your argument is mute and every time that happens you resort to your means and name calling, good for you! I can set my watch by you.[/quote]

Your absolute cluelessness about yourself is WILD. Every single thing you accuse me of, you're no less than twice as guilty.

Also, argument is mute? Huh? Means? Huh? As someone that thinks they're always the smartest person in the room, you should learn how to proofread and spell properly.