Re: What has Obama done well?
 

[quote=firstdown;577306]We have to scratch off the cash for clunkers as something Obama has done well.
[URL="http://blog.leasetrader.com/archive/2009/08/12/CASH-FOR-CLUNKERS-NOT-PAYING-DEALERS.aspx"]CASH FOR CLUNKERS NOT PAYING DEALERS[/URL]

Think this is the same goverment that some people want to handle our health care and they cannot even get this right.[/quote]
first, you seem intent on ripping Obama every chance you get. how about you naming some things that your President( Bush) did right? and the B.J. thing with Clinton, you approved of his presidency, other then that?

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[quote=dmek25;577360]first, you seem intent on ripping Obama every chance you get. how about you naming some things that your President( Bush) did right? and the B.J. thing with Clinton, you approved of his presidency, other then that?[/quote]Bush positives: - concept of No Child Left Behind
- Tax cuts resulting in 52 consecutive months of job creation
- minimized federal funding of abortion
- Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act
- Global HIV/AIDS funding
- instrumental in expanding NATO alliance
- Roberts & Alito and other strict constructionalist judge appointments.
- consolidated and reformed intelligence sharing
- parts of Homeland Security (agencies under HS should've consolidated more to reduce costs not as much new spending)
- Bush Admin thwarted additional terrorist attempts to attack US citizens/interests.
- Afghanistan (should've had better long term strategy)
- Iraq (actual war well executed, long term strategy not-so-much.) Troop surge worked though.
- Response to early 2000s (Clinton) recession.
- Economic Stimulus Act (mostly tax rebates)
- Do Not Call Act

Re: What has Obama done well?
 

[quote=dmek25;577360]first, you seem intent on ripping Obama every chance you get. how about you naming some things that your President( Bush) did right? and the B.J. thing with Clinton, you approved of his presidency, other then that?[/quote]

This is not a Bush issue...we already had a thread on what Bush did right...let's focus on Obama. Bush has NOTHING to do with what Obama has done right or wrong. The country wanted "change", well they got their wish...let's move on.

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[quote=jsarno;577397]This is not a Bush issue...we already had a thread on what Bush did right...let's focus on Obama. Bush has NOTHING to do with what Obama has done right or wrong. The country wanted "change", well they got their wish...let's move on.[/quote]ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! Bush has a TON to do with how Obama is doing. Think of it in football terms: you have one head coach for 8 years who sets the team up a certain way. When he leaves the team and a new coach comes in there is bound to be some carry over. If the old coach left the team in ruins its clearly going to take the new guy a little while to get everything sorted out. If the old coach left the team in a strong state it's up to the new guy to at least keep the good times going.

And don't you think that "the country wanted 'change'" because there were a ton of people who thought Bush was doing a ton of damage and that someone like McCain would not do enough to reverse the trend? People didn't want change just for shits and giggles.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;577400]ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! Bush has a TON to do with how Obama is doing. Think of it in football terms: you have one head coach for 8 years who sets the team up a certain way. When he leaves the team and a new coach comes in there is bound to be some carry over. If the old coach left the team in ruins its clearly going to take the new guy a little while to get everything sorted out. If the old coach left the team in a strong state it's up to the new guy to at least keep the good times going.

And don't you think that "the country wanted 'change'" because there were a ton of people who thought Bush was doing a ton of damage and that someone like McCain would not do enough to reverse the trend? People didn't want change just for shits and giggles.[/quote]

If we get into Bush (again, for the 1 millionth time on this site) then going after Obama full strength will be in order. Bush bashing has been common play here for quite some time, we are talking about what Obama has done right. My point was to say this is an obama thread, not Bush.

Re: What has Obama done well?
 

I had to think long and hard about this one. But there were a couple of things the Obama administration has done that I agree with...

No more DEA raids on dispensers of [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/19/us/19holder.html"]medical marijuana[/URL] and he cut funding for the absurd [URL="http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSTRE5470K220090508"]"abstinence only"[/URL] programs.

Re: What has Obama done well?
 

[quote=jsarno;577405]If we get into Bush (again, for the 1 millionth time on this site) then going after Obama full strength will be in order. Bush bashing has been common play here for quite some time, we are talking about what Obama has done right. [B]My point was to say this is an obama thread[/B], not Bush.[/quote]
come on and man up. you wanted people to post here with rips towards Obama. just by the way the original thread was worded. and to say that Bush has no bearing on how Obama is doing is down right stupid

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;577017]This is what I've been saying for awhile. The Federal Government should leave people alone, at home and abroad.[/quote]Is it possible to have a functional government that doesn't act in it's own best interests?

It's a pretty deep question when you think about it. We could have a totally isolationist foreign policy, no UN, no NATO, etc, but when situations arise where it's COMPLETELY obvious that's the correct move is to meddle in the business of others, do you stay true to isolationist ideals?

If not, where is the line drawn?

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;577400]ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! Bush has a TON to do with how Obama is doing.[/quote]

Very true...although it's interesting to note that when anyone mentioned how actions taken (or not taken) during the Clinton administration may have impacted the Bush administration that was usually brushed aside. Every president affects future presidents. It didn't just start with Bush/Obama

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[quote=GTripp0012;577447]Is it possible to have a functional government that doesn't act in it's own best interests?

It's a pretty deep question when you think about it. We could have a totally isolationist foreign policy, no UN, no NATO, etc, but when situations arise where it's COMPLETELY obvious that's the correct move is to meddle in the business of others, do you stay true to isolationist ideals?

If not, where is the line drawn?[/quote]

The government needs to operate in the interest of the people it represents. It isn't an entity in itself.

Name me some situations where it was obvious to meddle in the affairs of others. Who said isolationist? That's your flawed interpretation of my poistion.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;577383]Bush positives: - concept of No Child Left Behind
- Tax cuts resulting in 52 consecutive months of job creation
- minimized federal funding of abortion
- Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act
- Global HIV/AIDS funding
- instrumental in expanding NATO alliance
- Roberts & Alito and other strict constructionalist judge appointments.
- consolidated and reformed intelligence sharing
- parts of Homeland Security (agencies under HS should've consolidated more to reduce costs not as much new spending)
- Bush Admin thwarted additional terrorist attempts to attack US citizens/interests.
- Afghanistan (should've had better long term strategy)
- Iraq (actual war well executed, long term strategy not-so-much.) Troop surge worked though.
- Response to early 2000s (Clinton) recession.
- Economic Stimulus Act (mostly tax rebates)
- Do Not Call Act[/quote]

It's a sad day when the left think those things are conservative. If he had a D next to his name they would've circled the wagons around him and said he was a centrist.

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[quote=dmek25;577360]first, you seem intent on ripping Obama every chance you get. how about you naming some things that your President( Bush) did right? and the B.J. thing with Clinton, you approved of his presidency, other then that?[/quote]

OK Demek25 I have a positive for Obama. While watching the guys put new windows in my house I thought about the $1500 tax break I will get because of Obama. So his tax break for up grading windows is something he has done well/right. I get a tax break and the window guy gets the job. SS answered the Bush ? for me and no I was not a big fan of Clintons. The one thing with Clinton is that the Rep had control of congress so Clinton could only do but so much.

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[quote=SmootSmack;577451][B]Very true...although it's interesting to note that when anyone mentioned how actions taken (or not taken) during the Clinton administration may have impacted the Bush administration that was usually brushed aside.[/B] Every president affects future presidents. It didn't just start with Bush/Obama[/quote]

Yup. Just another point proving that hypocrisy is the most common political trend.

Re: What has Obama done well?
 

One good thing, IMO, is that he got the F-22 canceled.

In my opinion, just like UHC should wait, so should advanced fighters/weapon systems.