Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

Rinehart has worked hard all spring and summer for this opportunity, and we need Montgomery's versatility as a backup. Here's hoping Rinehart gets the job done

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

Weren't there whispers in camp that some in the organization wanted Rinehart to be starting at RG?

Nothing against Thomas but I hope this injury is a blessing in disguise. It's time to see what Rinehart is capable of.

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

[quote=GMScud;593037]Because we've got nothing else at this point. When Zorn said in his presser "we're looking for someone who can start for us," I was pretty darn concerned. To go into the season with a line as old and injury prone as ours, to not have solid back ups in whom we have confidence is just... well... stupid as hell really.

Frankly I have NO confidence in Rinehart. We're going to start a guy who has never even been active in a real NFL game? Yikes.[/quote]
Take it easy. The Redskins know how to replace the Right Guard, they have to do it every year. What we cant replace is Samuels. But like I said, name me one team that can effectively replace their Left Tackle.

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

[quote=Mattyk72;593042]Weren't there whispers in camp that some in the organization wanted Rinehart to be starting at RG?

Nothing against Thomas but I hope this injury is a blessing in disguise.[B] It's time to see what Rinehart is capable of[/B].[/quote]

I want nothing more than for Rinehart to shine. But thus far he hasn't even been capable of being in a uniform on Sundays, let alone starting. Makes me awfully nervous.

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

[quote=GMScud;593046]I want nothing more than for Rinehart to shine. But thus far, he hasn't even been capable of being in a uniform on Sundays, let alone starting. Makes me awfully nervous.[/quote]
Thats so they can dress fifteen running backs. We have a very unorthodox coach to say the least.

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

[quote=GMScud;593046]I want nothing more than for Rinehart to shine. But thus far he hasn't even been capable of being in a uniform on Sundays, let alone starting. Makes me awfully nervous.[/quote]

Realistically, it's hard to dress too many offensive linemen that aren't starters because they don't really contribute to special teams so they take up active roster spots. And when you have a situation like yesterday where both Smoot and Barnes are inactive and Tryon has to play more defense than special teams, then you have to make sure guy a like Marcus Mason (who can contribute on special teams) is active before Rinehart. Even though they don't play the same position.

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

[quote=GMScud;593046]I want nothing more than for Rinehart to shine. But thus far he hasn't even been capable of being in a uniform on Sundays, let alone starting. Makes me awfully nervous.[/quote]

It's a numbers game on Sundays as the article points out. He only plays guard so it's tough to dress a guy who only can fill in at one spot.

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

I agree. You can't dress a guy who only fills one role and a back-up one at that. His being inactive was more about numbers than his ability. That being said, let's see what he can do. Dockery summed it up well during the post game presser. This is the NFL and people get hurt all the time. You have to be ready to step up. He went on to say that whoever it is Buges would spend time with him and coach that guy up. He didn't expect it to be a major disruption to the unit either.

I hope Rinehart is a beast. Let's make it happen big guy. We're pulling for ya. (no pun intended)

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

[quote=Mattyk72;593055]It's a numbers game on Sundays as the article points out. He only plays guard so it's tough to dress a guy who only can fill in at one spot.[/quote]

I understand that about the 53 man, especially with the CB issue yesterday. But I seem to remember the consensus among the staff/FO during offseason evaluations was that he simply wasn't an NFL caliber player. Looked flat out terrible on a consistent basis. I understand he's come a long way in during OTAs and camp, but I find it hard to believe that a guy who looked to be on his way out of the league has turned himself into a starting caliber player in a matter of months. But hey, we can hope.

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

[quote=GMScud;593093]I understand that about the 53 man, especially with the CB issue yesterday. But I seem to remember the consensus among the staff/FO during offseason evaluations was that he simply wasn't an NFL caliber player. Looked flat out terrible on a consistent basis. I understand he's come a long way in during OTAs and camp, but I find it hard to believe that a guy who looked to be on his way out of the league has turned himself into a starting caliber player in a matter of months. But hey, we can hope.[/quote]

Well, what you remember is JLC (I think it was him) saying "some in the organization" think Rinehart has a long ways to go. This was back in February I believe

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;593106]Well, what you remember is JLC (I think it was him) saying "some in the organization" think Rinehart has a long ways to go. This was back in February I believe[/quote]

Yes, it was JLC, but I remember the comments were a lot more harsh than Rinehart "has a long ways to go."

Okay, here ya go:[I]

"Third-round pick Chad Rinehart is not seen as a capable player at this point, according to numerous sources involved in the meeting, and is not projected as being anywhere close to able to replace Pete Kendall or Randy Thomas at guard. Many coaches, including Bugel, worry about his confidence and ability, sources said. He is not being counted on to produce much in 2009, and if he did it would be a surprising development."[/I]

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/skins-first-set-of-personnel-m.html]Redskins Insider - Initial Personnel Ratings Completed[/url]

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;593027]Sellers on his drop:

"Win or no win, Mike Sellers was ticked Sunday afternoon. He kept his back to the locker room. He answered questions tersely, his voice low and quiet. He pretty hurriedly left the room through a back door. I ran into him as he was leaving the facility, while he was stopping to joke with some kids and sign some autographs. I told him he looked pissed off.

"I am pissed off," he said. "I dropped a touchdown. I'm one of the guys you depend on, and I had it in my hands, and I didn't catch it. I didn't come through with what I was preaching to everybody else all week long."

Rage was trickling out through his eyes. You've never seen a victorious player fume like this. I asked whether the win didn't make him feel better.

"No," he said. "We won, yeah, but my performance, I'm not happy with it. I'm not. I've got to be hard on myself, because I expect more out of myself. Lack of concentration. Don't worry about it, I'll be on the JUGS machine, working on it.""

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/09/the_redskins_post-rams_grumpin.html?wprss=dcsportsbog"]D.C. Sports Bog - The Redskins' Post-Rams Grumpiness[/URL][/quote]

I'll concede that perhaps JC is not the problem cause I'm not of the mind set that I hate him or don't like him. But I will say you'd have a hard time finding anyone on the team right now that would be pointing fingers at others, of course they are going to blame themselves for not getting the job done. No different then if you had asked JC about the play he might have said "I could have lightened up on the throw a little" or " I could have gotten it to him sooner." I seriously doubt you would find JC saying "Oh that was all Sellers. He screwed up." or " Sellers saying "That was all JC he needs to not blast it at me so close."

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

[quote=GMScud;593111]Yes, it was JLC, but I remember the comments were a lot more harsh than Rinehart "has a long ways to go."

Okay, here ya go:

[I]"Third-round pick Chad Rinehart is not seen as a capable player at this point, according to numerous sources involved in the meeting, and is not projected as being anywhere close to able to replace Pete Kendall or Randy Thomas at guard. Many coaches, including Bugel, worry about his confidence and ability, sources said. He is not being counted on to produce much in 2009, and if he did it would be a surprising development."[/I]

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/skins-first-set-of-personnel-m.html"]Redskins Insider - Initial Personnel Ratings Completed[/URL][/quote]

I thought Buges also called him out saying something like Chad was not getting the technique down or something to that effect? Then like a week later he changed his tune saying Chad is practicing hard and always at the facility working on his technique. I remember being totally confused about the whole flip-flop routine.

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

[quote=SBXVII;593121]I'll concede that perhaps JC is not the problem cause I'm not of the mind set that I hate him or don't like him. But I will say you'd have a hard time finding anyone on the team right now that would be pointing fingers at others, of course they are going to blame themselves for not getting the job done. [B]No different then if you had asked JC about the play he might have said "I could have lightened up on the throw a little" or " I could have gotten it to him sooner." I seriously doubt you would find JC saying "Oh that was all Sellers. He screwed up." or " Sellers saying "That was all JC he needs to not blast it at me so close."[/B][/quote]

Actually, JC pretty much called out his receivers (appropriately, it seems to me) - from that same article:

On Jason Campbell - "He wasn't surly or angry or shouting, but he let it be known that he didn't appreciate the two dropped balls in the red zone, by Sellers and Devin Thomas.

'Well you know, it's frustrating,' Campbell told Johnson. 'We had two touchdown passes early in the game [that were dropped]. You're talking about game-changing plays, because now we're up 14 to zero, and that gives us the opportunity to take some confidence out of that team. And when you're just getting field goals what it does is you're continuing to put confidence into the Rams, and they just continue to feel like they can hang around, continue to play with you. And you saw what happened, it ended up being a nailbiter.' "

Re: Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)
 

[quote=SBXVII;592969]Oh, and I failed to mention how JC seems to blast the ball to his WR's within 15 yrds of him. Over throws the long ball. and changes into the wrong play.[/quote]

I think it's pretty clear why Campbell threw the ball as hard as he did at Sellers. QB's throw the ball faster when they know the window is closing. And there was no doubt that window would close within mere milliseconds if he didn't rocket that pass in there. Go ask any wideout or any player on the field counted on to catch the ball and not a single one will tell you it's not fair that they have to catch passes thrown as hard as possible to get squeezed into that window. They know their jobs and what they have to do. The pass was fine.

Look at the bright side though, judging by the Bog's postgame quotes Mike is plenty mad about it too, so you can expect a better performance out of him next time around hopefully.

I agree with Matty as well about Rinehart. I hope this is a blessing in disguise too, and hopefully Rinehart will step up and solidify himself as our starting RG for the future.