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[quote=celts32;771464]I would take Palmer if he were a free agent. I think he's a cut above all these other opening day starter options were looking at. Still want to draft a QB though.[/quote]

That's not saying much.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;771429]Thats just more of the same. It's time to bite the bullet and at least start to attempt something that resembles a rebuilding effort.[/quote]

Voice of reason!

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[quote=Ruhskins;771462]Maybe they'll get a crazy a$$ coach that would want to get rid of him, the way McD got rid of Cutler.[/quote]

Id send our first for Schaub without thinking twice.

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[quote=Ruhskins;771462]Maybe they'll get a crazy a$$ coach that would want to get rid of him, the way McD got rid of Cutler.[/quote]

Oh bye the way, how is that Cutler trade working out for the Bears?

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[quote=Chico23231;771472]Oh bye the way, how is that Cutler trade working out for the Bears?[/quote]

Well the Bears are 10-4, have the second seed in the NFC, and Jay Cutler has improved tremendously over last year's 27 td, 26 pick performance. I think he's got like 19 touchdowns and 12 picks right now. He's been tremendously better. So I'd say it's working out for them pretty good right about now. Both sides did pretty decent, Denver got a multitude of draft picks and Kyle Orton was tearing it up in Denver earlier this season, they're just losing a lot of games because they have no run game and no defense.

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[quote=Meks;771465]Would love to draft Ryan mallet[/quote]

I would like to draft him. Not sure I would love it, but I would probably drink the Kool Aid on draft day. Locker is my current man crush though and I think the same goes for Shanny. One things for sure though. At this point the only QB's I want to focus on are Locker and Mallet. Luck would be my first choice but I have a better chance of marrying a billionare supermodel than we have of being in position to acquire Luck.

Newton is a spread QB with huge character concerns. Blaine Gabbert has gotten on the scene recently but he also comes from a spread system. Christian Ponder is this years "compromise pick" where people say "sure draft a QB but lets trade down and draft a guy in the 3rd round and groom him, because that always works out." Stupid Charlie Frye fans.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;771482]I would like to draft him. Not sure I would love it, but I would probably drink the Kool Aid on draft day. Locker is my current man crush though and I think the same goes for Shanny. One things for sure though. At this point the only QB's I want to focus on are Locker and Mallet. Luck would be my first choice but I have a better chance of marrying a billionare supermodel than we have of being in position to acquire Luck.

Newton is a spread QB with huge character concerns. Blaine Gabbert has gotten on the scene recently but he also comes from a spread system. Christian Ponder is this years "compromise pick" where people say "sure draft a QB but lets trade down and draft a guy in the 3rd round and groom him, because that always works out." Stupid Charlie Frye fans.[/quote]


Not too big on Ponder either, he's decent but not a starting QB in the nfl imo

I watched him play in person this season when FSU played OU and he looked horrible, I think he had like 3 Ints or something like that.. Yes I know its just 1 game but thats a game that will stick with me if we draft him

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[quote=skinsfaninok;771483]Not too big on Ponder either, he's decent but not a starting QB in the nfl imo

I watched him play in person this season when FSU played OU and he looked horrible, I think he had like 3 Ints or something like that.. Yes I know its just 1 game but thats a game that will stick with me if we draft him[/quote]

Well to be fair he's not that bad but he's not the top of guy that you pin the hopes of a franchise on. I mean Schuab was drafted in the 4th round when the Falcons had Vick. Brady was acquired while Bledsoe was still in his prime. Cassel was drafted when the Pats had Brady and wasn't even expected to make the team. Romo was an accident that they discovered while they had Bledsoe (maybe we should sign Bledsoe).

Even the elder Shanahan's best 3rd round QB in Brian Griese was essentially a one year wonder while in Denver.

My main point is lets acquire an option thats more likely to succed before we try and "groom" a second day pick to be a franchise Quarterback. Otherwise chances are we'll end up with a QB that will encourage more groans from the fanbase than Ramsey and Campbell combined.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;771491]Well to be fair he's not that bad but he's not the top of guy that you pin the hopes of a franchise on. I mean Schuab was drafted in the 4th round when the Falcons had Vick. Brady was acquired while Bledsoe was still in his prime. Cassel was drafted when the Pats had Brady and wasn't even expected to make the team. Romo was an accident that they discovered while they had Bledsoe (maybe we should sign Bledsoe).

Even the elder Shanahan's best 3rd round QB in Brian Griese was essentially a one year wonder while in Denver.

My main point is lets acquire an option thats more likely to succed before we try and "groom" a second day pick to be a franchise Quarterback. Otherwise chances are we'll end up with a QB that will encourage more groans from the fanbase than Ramsey and Campbell combined.[/quote]


I wouldn't count out a player soley due to character concerns. For every Ryan Leaf, Lawrence Phillps and Maurice Clarett, you have a Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, or Dez Bryant as other examples on how some of these "character challenged" players can flurish in the NFL. I wouldn't mind taking the gamble on Cam.

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I WANT KELLEN MOORE. he is the real deal and could be around in the 3rd-4th round. he stays in the film room, knows the game in and out, makes great coverage reads, and is extremely accurate. lastly, he's a winner.

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[quote=Kindoy;771508]I WANT KELLEN MOORE. he is the real deal and could be around in the 3rd-4th round. he stays in the film room, knows the game in and out, makes great coverage reads, and is extremely accurate. lastly, he's a winner.[/quote]

I've always liked Moore BUT he doesn't play against the best talent every week, that's a big deal.. I still think he's better than guys like Ponder and Nick Foles.

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Kellen Moore is now officially the ultimate man crush. The Cult of Colt in it's prime could only dream of the following this 6'0 man from Idaho has developed. More power to him if he succeeds but history suggest that he's probably nothing more then a really good college QB who might be a decent backup at the NFL level. Certainly not the type of guy you bring in for Plan A.

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Best way I can describe Kellen Moore as a pro prospect is a way the anti-Tebow draft crowd tried to paint Tim Tebow as not being a pro-quarterback. That group was underselling Tebow as a pro player, but that's actually who Kellen Moore is: he doesn't really look the part, doesn't really play in a pro offense, doesn't have the arm for the position, etc. But he completed a ton of college passes for an elite program and won a bunch of games at that level.

Moore is not going to be drafted in the first round like Tebow was, obviously, but he does a couple of things very, very well. At some point late in the draft, he'll be worth a look

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[quote=GTripp0012;771525]Best way I can describe Kellen Moore as a pro prospect is a way the anti-Tebow draft crowd tried to paint Tim Tebow as not being a pro-quarterback. That group was underselling Tebow as a pro player, but that's actually who Kellen Moore is: he doesn't really look the part, doesn't really play in a pro offense, doesn't have the arm for the position, etc. But he completed a ton of college passes for an elite program and won a bunch of games at that level.

Moore is not going to be drafted in the first round like Tebow was, obviously, but he does a couple of things very, very well. At some point late in the draft, he'll be worth a look[/quote]

I agree with your assesment GT, but the thing about Moore not having the arm is dead wrong. Whenever I have seen him on TV that kid can throw one helluva bomb like 60yds in the air mulitple times. The big beef with moore is the same thing with Colt. He didn't play anybody half decent and when he did(TCU) he got his ass handed to him. If TCU destroys Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl I won't knock on BSU so bad, but right now it is Colt and Hawaii all over again. That being said I would still pick Moore over Newton. That kid has jackass written all over his face.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;771420]Local Radio suggest the skins are interested in trading for Matt Schaub? Have u heard anything like this SS, could that actually happen?[/quote]

Schaub, really? Based on what, the Kyle relation? Interesting, I would think Cowher would want him in Houston but them again maybe he wants to start fresh