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[quote=RedskinRat;1008664]Gangbangers are 'children', too! Oh, the humanity![/quote]


....and more numbers.



[SIZE=1]
Inter-country comparison of mortality for selected cause of death, [url=http://data.euro.who.int/dmdb/]European Detailed Mortality Database (DMDB)[/url]. Children exposed to violence: [url]https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/227744.pdf[/url] [/SIZE][B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]More than one out of five teenagers has witnessed a shooting
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]• [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The 2008 National Survey of Children’s Exposure to Violence found that more than one in five 14-17 year olds in a national representative survey of children had witnessed a shooting at some point in their lives. This number is thought to be much higher among low-income children; one study found that more than two out of five low-income Black school-aged children had witnessed a murder. [/FONT]
[/SIZE][B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]Black, Hispanic, American Indian and Alaska Native children and teens are disproportionately likely to die or be injured by guns.
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]• [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]In 2010, [/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]45 percent of gun deaths and 46 percent of gun injuries [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]were among Black children and teens, although they comprised only [/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]15 percent [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]of all children and teens. [/FONT]
• [/SIZE][B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]Black children and teens [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3]were [/SIZE][B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]4.7 times more likely to die [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3]from guns than White children and teens, and [/SIZE][B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]8.5 times more likely to be injured[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3]. American Indian and Alaska Native children and teens were [/SIZE][B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]2.4 times more likely to die [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3]than White children and teens. Hispanic children were [/SIZE][B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]3.3 times more likely to be injured [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3]compared to White children and teens.
[/SIZE][B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]Two out of three gun deaths in children and teens are homicides and a little over one out of four are suicides. Among nonfatal gun injuries, a little over three out of four result from assaults and nearly one out of five is accidental.
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]Gun deaths and nonfatal injuries among children and teens (ages 0-19) in 2010 Firearm deaths [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]Estimated Nonfatal Firearm Injuries [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]Number [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]Percent [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]Rate* [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]Number [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]Percent [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]Rate* [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]2,694 [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]100% [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]3.2 [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]Total [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]15,576 [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]100% [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]18.7 [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial,Arial][SIZE=3]Total [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=3]1,773 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]66% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2.1 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Homicide [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]12,077 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]78% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]14.5 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Assault [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]749 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]28% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]0.9 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Suicide [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]3,019 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]19% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]3.6 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Accidental [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]134 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]5% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]0.2 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Accidental [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]480 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]3% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]0.6 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Self-harm [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]38 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]0.05 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Undetermined [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2353 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]87% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]5.5 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Boys [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]13,749 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]88% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]32.8 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Boys [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]341 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]13% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]0.8 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Girls [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1,827 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]12% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4.5 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Girls [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2,315 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]86% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]10.5 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Between ages 15-19 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]13,870 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]89% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]62.9 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Between ages 15-19 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]224 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]8% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1.1 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Between ages 10-14 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1,265 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]8% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]6.1 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Between ages 10-14 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]73 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]3% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]0.4 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Between ages 5-9 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]240 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1.2 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Between ages 5-9 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]82 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]3% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]0.4 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Between ages 0-4 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]200 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1.0 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Between ages 0-4 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1,205 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]45% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]9.4 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Black, non-Hispanic [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]7,232 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]46% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]52.1 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Black, non-Hispanic [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]909 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]34% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2.0 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]White, non-Hispanic [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]3,571 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]23% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]20.0 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Hispanic [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]512 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]19% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2.7 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Hispanic, all races [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2,839 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]18% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]6.1 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]White, non-Hispanic [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]41 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4.8 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]American Indian or Alaska Native, non Hispanic [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1,584
349 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]10%
2% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]**
6.9 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Race not stated
Other non-Hispanic [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]27 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1% [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]0.6 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Asian or Pacific Islander, non Hispanic [/SIZE]

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Disturbing statistics.

[url=http://www.goat-trauma.org/stats.shtml]Goat Trauma Statistics[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1008713]Disturbing statistics.

[URL="http://www.goat-trauma.org/stats.shtml"]Goat Trauma Statistics[/URL][/quote]

[I][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The majority of goat traumas occur before age eight and after age fifty-two.[/FONT][/I]

Phew, I turn 52 this year and I'm goat-trauma free! The numbers don't lie, but now I'll have to steer clear of petting zoos.

I wonder how many youths in mid east, african, central and south american countries have witnessed shootings?

sometimes stats are so meaningless that its funny when people try to assign meanings to them.

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Shhhhhh.....they're trying to build a utopia.

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Epidemic: Guns kill twice as many kids as cancer does


[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/11/guns-child-deaths-more-than-cancer/2073259/]Epidemic: Guns kill twice as many kids as cancer does[/url]



[B]Epidemic: Guns kill twice as many kids as cancer does[/B]

Dustin Racioppi, The Asbury Park (N.J.) Press7:28 a.m. EDT April 11, 2013

[B]Children's group says gun deaths among youth also outnumber soldiers injured in Afghanistan.[/B]

[IMG]http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/04/09/ap-gun-permit-database-4_3_rx404_c534x401.jpg?87cc7ae5b5e3d133be9f113f907a13faa9f8741e[/IMG]
Group to give away 30 guns in 30 days in PR bid(Photo: Seth Wenig, AP)
[B]Story Highlights[/B]
[LIST][*]Children's advocacy group says in 2010, 15,576 youth were injured by firearms[*]Accidental firearms injuries have been on the decline nationwide[*]Congress is set to vote on a series of gun-control measures aimed at reducing gun violence[/LIST]
ASBURY PARK, N.J. — Most victims of gun violence in 2010 were not on a battlefield or remote hillside in the Middle East fighting in a war. They were, like 6-year-old Brandon Holt, children and teenagers in America, according to the Children's Defense Fund.
Brandon was shot in the head by his friend and neighbor, an unidentified 4-year-old boy, on Monday night. He is now also a statistic of gun violence.
[B]STORY: [/B][URL="http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/11/child-accidental-shooting/2073247/"][COLOR=#0066cc]Family donates N.J. boy's organs after shooting death[/COLOR][/URL]
In 2010, 15,576 children and teenagers were injured by firearms — three times more than the number of U.S. soldiers injured in the war in Afghanistan, according to the defense fund.
Nationally, guns still kill twice as many children and young people than cancer, five times as many than heart disease and 15 times more than infection, according to the New England Journal of Medicine.
"We see guns as much of a threat in their life as we used to see bacteria and viruses," said Dr. Judith S. Palfrey, a past president of the American Academy of Pediatrics and the co-author of the New England journal report. "If you look at what's actually killing children and disabling children, guns is one of the major things."
Accidental firearms injuries have been on the decline nationwide. In 2001, 5,091 children ages 19 and under were injured by a firearm. Those numbers steadily decreased through 2009, when 3,587 children under 19 were reported injured by a firearm, according to the defense fund.
[B]A national issue[/B]
Monday night's shooting in Toms River comes during a high-profile period for guns and politics. Congress is set to vote on a series of gun-control measures aimed at reducing gun violence.
Meanwhile, gun violence persists. Since the shooting on Dec. 14 in Newtown, Conn., 58 children have been killed by guns, according to the online magazine Slate. On Saturday in Tennessee, a 4-year-old boy accidentally shot and killed the wife of a sheriff's deputy.
"Gun violence right now is an epidemic in our country," said Raymonde Charles, a Children's Defense Fund spokeswoman. "It's a moral imperative for us to really come together, work together to reduce gun violence."
It was not clear Tuesday how the Toms River boy got access to the rifle.
Nicola Bocour, director of Ceasefire NJ, which advocates for stricter gun laws, said the shooting underscores the need for a societal shift in attitudes toward guns.
"I think what it really shows is that the state of the gun culture in this country right now, the way it's approached, is not healthy," Bocour said.
[B]Statistics on shootings[/B]
— In 2010 in the U.S., 606 people died from an unintentional shooting.
— In 2011,14,675 people were wounded in an unintentional shooting but survived.
— In 49 percent of unintentional shooting deaths, the victim is shot by another person.
— Thirty-three percent of U.S. households have a gun, and half of gun-owning households do not lock up their guns, including 40 percent of households with kids under age 18.
— A gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in a completed or attempted suicide (11 times more likely), a criminal assault or homicide (seven times more likely), or unintentional shooting death or injury (four times more likely) than in a self-defense shooting.
— Most unintentional shooting deaths occur in the home (65 percent), based on data from 16 states. The most common context of the death (30 percent) was playing with the gun.

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Missouri tells the federal gun grabbers to go suck an egg!

[url=http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/05/missouri-legislature-nullifies-all-federal-gun-control/#ixzz2SzswRe8h]Missouri Legislature Nullifies All Federal Gun Control[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1008800]Missouri tells the federal gun grabbers to go suck an egg!

[URL="http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/05/missouri-legislature-nullifies-all-federal-gun-control/#ixzz2SzswRe8h"]Missouri Legislature Nullifies All Federal Gun Control[/URL][/quote]


LOL , lets see how long they go without" Federal Money".

[QUOTE=Giantone;1008807]LOL , lets see how long they go without" Federal Money".[/QUOTE]



So much for the will of the people.

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I used to laugh at people that suggested the possibility of secession.
Not anymore.
Props to Missouri for defending the 2nd amendment.

[QUOTE=Giantone;1008807]LOL , lets see how long they go without" Federal Money".[/QUOTE]

Right, because that is how the Constitution and Bill of Rights viewed the balance between state and federal authority and responsibility(not to mention citizens rights)

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[quote=RedskinRat;1008808]So much for the will of the people.[/quote]


Prove it ,let them vote on it.

[QUOTE=Giantone;1008819]Prove it ,let them vote on it.[/QUOTE]

So, are you saying a veto proof vote in the state legislature does not represent the will of that State's voting public?

the Missouri law is just for show. States cannot nullify or void federal laws. Either the federal law is determined to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court and unenforceable [I]or[/I] it is constitutional and binding on the States.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1008821]So, are you saying a veto proof vote in the state legislature does not represent the will of that State's voting public?[/quote]



Actually Joe answered the question but I say let voters decide on the new laws ,not some paid off politician who is acting in the best interest of a corporation and not John Q. Public.