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I think Allen and Snyder drove McCloughan back to hard drinking.

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Jason Cole AKA Scot -

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2697293-insider-buzz-gm-scot-mccloughan-was-fired-for-wanting-to-trade-kirk-cousins]Insider Buzz: GM Scot McCloughan Was Fired for Wanting to Trade Kirk Cousins | Bleacher Report[/url]

This is an interesting spin on the issue.

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[quote=Defensewins;1167735]Mayock gave a written statement on NFLN this evening saying that he has not been approached by the Redskins, has has not spoken to anyone from the Redskins organization and he has not had any conversations about a job with the Redskins.[/quote]

except he put the word official in from on those statements

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[quote=Chico23231;1167739]It's a tough calll to think which road is the best...internal guy, someone outside familiar with Bruce and the org or a total outsider....I just extremely disappointing to hear the organization still has this divisive and petty nature going on within the confines of skins park. This situation was absurd and how it was handled...

I got nothing...my preference would be a fresh, strong personality within the org from the outside. Mayock kinda has a personality like that...I don't want Doug Williams.

And that Cooley piece, he can go fuck himself. Playing dumb ain't gonna work at this point.[/quote]

Won't matter much who the new GM is, he won't have any real power or say. Anybody that tried to actually have power over operations of the team since Snyder took over was shit canned, with the exception of Gibbs, and that is probably a good reason he left, not just his grandson's health issues alone. I don't blame you about being pissed at Cooley still. What he did was out of line even though it was pretty much spot on. I don't want Williams as the GM at all. Mayock I am sure is a better talent evaluator than he is. He is the one that kept talking up JC to Coach Gibbs before the Skins drafted him.

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I would encourage people to actually listen to Cooley's comments, I found him to be pretty honest and convincing.

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IMO Can't trust Cooley as well as i just don't like him .

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Hello Redskin Nation,
I am new to the Warpath! I look forward to great dialogue and passion w/ B&G faithful. I say we should hold off on the judgement of our front until the truth surfaces above assumptions.


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[quote=marbrajoe;1167768]Hello Redskin Nation,
I am new to the Warpath! I look forward to great dialogue and passion w/ B&G faithful. I say we should hold off on the judgement of our front until the truth surfaces above assumptions.


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Welcome

But let's be honest about the front office the track record with much of the same players...I think it's fairly obvious that it's divisive and dysfunctional. Post Gibbs 2.0 it's been a dumpster fire.

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 

[quote=marbrajoe;1167768]Hello Redskin Nation,
I am new to the Warpath! I look forward to great dialogue and passion w/ B&G faithful. I say we should hold off on the judgement of our front until the truth surfaces above assumptions.


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Please post more because this is very level headed. We know a lot at this point but I don't feel like I know for sure why McC was canned. I suspect jealousy and envy and ego on Allen's part played a role. I also find it damning that Cousins was willing to go over Allen's head to the owner, and that now he is taking a "it's me or the dog" stance against Allen. I don't think Cousins would do that without very good reason. I think he knows an awful lot.

But I don't know enough yet.

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[quote=MTK;1167764]I would encourage people to actually listen to Cooley's comments, I found him to be pretty honest and convincing.[/quote]

Wholeheartedly agree. He made a bad mistake bringing the subject up on the radio but I don't think he was told to.

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[quote=MTK;1167764]I would encourage people to actually listen to Cooley's comments, I found him to be pretty honest and convincing.[/quote]

I do not understand the hate for Cooley. I was listing to them on the day of segment and I did not think anything about it. When it blew up, i thought i had missed part of the show.

I did not hear the apology, but i read the transcript and it appears to be sincere.

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[quote=MTK;1167729]Mayock knows Allen and Gruden well.[/quote]

That means nothing once egos get involved. Allen knew Scot and his family.

I'm not sure if the thing with Cousins is true or not, but that really says something when the starting QB goes directly to the owner and says him or me. Again, not sure how true that is but if it is that's very telling. Cousins just doesn't come off as a disruptive kind of guy.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1167753]Jason Cole AKA Scot -

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2697293-insider-buzz-gm-scot-mccloughan-was-fired-for-wanting-to-trade-kirk-cousins]Insider Buzz: GM Scot McCloughan Was Fired for Wanting to Trade Kirk Cousins | Bleacher Report[/url]

This is an interesting spin on the issue.[/quote]That report is missing one critical piece of information.....when? When are they talking about?

If Scott wants to trade Cousins [I]now [/I]it makes sense because its the only way to get value from a player who is flat out telling you a) he's not going to sign a long term contract b) he wants a trade and basically that he'll leave next offseason and they'll get nothing.

Where is the crime in that? That's what a smart GM would do now.

IF the article is talking about before the it doesn't match the previous reports that said Scott is the one that wanted to sign Cousins to long term deal last offseason.

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[quote=30gut;1167787]That report is missing one critical piece of information.....when? When are they talking about?

If Scott wants to trade Cousins [I]now [/I]it makes sense because its the only way to get value from a player who is flat out telling you a) he's not going to sign a long term contract b) he wants a trade and basically that he'll leave next offseason and they'll get nothing.

Where is the crime in that? That's what a smart GM would do now.

IF the article is talking about before the it doesn't match the previous reports that said Scott is the one that wanted to sign Cousins to long term deal last offseason.[/quote]

This guy is terrible. He is a "hot take" shit journalist who takes everything he's heard and then writes a new take where he makes a lot of assumptions based on taking facts out of context. This is a major issue these days, context. Yeah u get it becuase timing is everything with the story. But this allows him to make these assumptions.

It's fake news, he should work for CNN becuase they use the same formula in their own system of "journalism"

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[QUOTE=30gut;1167787]That report is missing one critical piece of information.....when? When are they talking about?



If Scott wants to trade Cousins [I]now [/I]it makes sense because its the only way to get value from a player who is flat out telling you a) he's not going to sign a long term contract b) he wants a trade and basically that he'll leave next offseason and they'll get nothing.



Where is the crime in that? That's what a smart GM would do now.



IF the article is talking about before the it doesn't match the previous reports that said Scott is the one that wanted to sign Cousins to long term deal last offseason.[/QUOTE]



Good cautions, all around. Something is surely wrong in Ashburnistan, but for the moment, the only thing we can say for sure is that we are still living in the Snyder era. The old MO was meddling. The new MO is having a bickering FO that can't function without help from the Emperor. Same old same old. What we probably won't see is one exec with clear and total football authority.

The who-is-poisoning Kirk intrigue vis-a-vis the FO requires a little more time and sleuthing to understand. Let's gather the suspects in the dining room:

DS -- who personally washed and pressed RG3's jock strap for 2 or 3 years

BA -- who speaks in riddles and whose continued presence is intolerable to the QB

SMc -- who didn't draft KC and seemed to be the person Kirk most wanted to impress (and who is now lying on the floor with a knife in his back; but his own hand seems to be clutching it)

JG -- who devised a brilliant passing scheme for the underdog QB . . . but stood by while 2 of his top 3 receiving weapons were allowed to go.

Okay Sherlocks . . . Who is the villain? Could Kirk be poisoning himself? Could it be like Murder on the Orient Express, where everyone is guilty?

Stay tuned for next week's episode!