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The only reason corner makes any sense is if we are looking past 2009. We have five corners on the roster (Hall, Smoot, Rogers, Tryon, and Westbrook). Tryon and Westbrook haven't been impactful at all. Rogers is entering a contract year, and has struggled to be a 16-game starter. Smoot won't last forever. Hall, with his new deal, is the only entrenched CB for 2010. We need someone else, and Barnes must've impressed during the local workout.

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This CB pick further indicates we are not gonna extend Carlos, which I think is a mistake. Dont see how we didnt go for the best OLineman availible...

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First off, why we did not draft Jamon Meridith is beyond reason. OK, so maybe there is something that are scaring teams away from him. So maybe a CB makes sense, Rogers and Smoot are shaky at best. But then the real question is, why in the HELL did we not draft the BEST CB available, D.J. Moore. Why Dan? why?

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Kevin Barnes is a beast, and the coaching staff must know him better than this Moore guy. Besides, Im not sold with Smoot as the 3rd corner. And before ppl get their panties in a bunch, there's a reason why players fall in the draft board (i.e. Meridith)

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[quote=Ruhskins;551005]Kevin Barnes is a beast, and the coaching staff must know him better than this Moore guy. Besides, Im not sold with Smoot as the 3rd corner. And before ppl get their panties in a bunch, there's a reason why players fall in the draft board (i.e. Meridith)[/quote]

I agree w/ those who say Vinny's talent evaluation is suspect, especially beyond the earliest rounds, therefor Chad Rinehart become a 3rd rd pick instead of a 5th or 6th rounder. Not quite as bad as Oakland but not very smart either. I'd also say we needed a CB cuz Vinny screwed up last year, taking a guy who can't compete and we let the speedster, improving Torrence go.

...but i think the bigger issues are what we do to reinforce the aging o-line and our LB corp now. Injuries to our o-line are just guaranteed at this point, not in question. We need legit starting talent for backup (probably not a 3rd draft choice), so IMO the FO would be wise to pay a guy like Levi Jones to come over...he should be available soon. This will tell me the FO is serious about giving JC and the offense an opportunity to play consistent football. AT LB Hill will probably cost too much but man if we can find a way to make it work our d will be lights out!!! We'd probably have to cut either Daniels or Wynn (can't cut both) and Rock, which means we need to draft his replacement. Otherwise it's pretty imperative Marcus is brought back on board, which personally gives me great hope.

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[quote=Ruhskins;551005]Kevin Barnes is a beast, and the coaching staff must know him better than this Moore guy. Besides, Im not sold with Smoot as the 3rd corner. And before ppl get their panties in a bunch, there's a reason why players fall in the draft board (i.e. Meridith)[/quote]

I like the pick too. Smoot is inconsistent and always gets banged up at some point. You can never have enough quality DB's.

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[quote=Ruhskins;551005]Kevin Barnes is a beast, and the coaching staff must know him better than this Moore guy. Besides, Im not sold with Smoot as the 3rd corner. [B]And before ppl get their panties in a bunch, there's a reason why players fall in the draft board (i.e. Meridith)[/B][/quote]

The voice of reason and sanity.

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[quote=The Goat;551021]I agree w/ those who say Vinny's talent evaluation is suspect, especially beyond the earliest rounds, therefor Chad Rinehart become a 3rd rd pick instead of a 5th or 6th rounder. Not quite as bad as Oakland but not very smart either. I'd also say we needed a CB cuz Vinny screwed up last year, taking a guy who can't compete and we let the speedster, improving Torrence go.

...but i think the bigger issues are what we do to reinforce the aging o-line and our LB corp now. Injuries to our o-line are just guaranteed at this point, not in question. [B]We need legit starting talent for backup (probably not a 3rd draft choice), so IMO the FO would be wise to pay a guy like Levi Jones to come over...[/B]he should be available soon. This will tell me the FO is serious about giving JC and the offense an opportunity to play consistent football. AT LB Hill will probably cost too much but man if we can find a way to make it work our d will be lights out!!! We'd probably have to cut either Daniels or Wynn (can't cut both) and Rock, which means we need to draft his replacement. Otherwise it's pretty imperative Marcus is brought back on board, which personally gives me great hope.[/quote]

You are correct - there is not a strong chance that a 3rd rounder would be an instant starter at OT. You are always wisely pointing out the Levi Jones scenario. I would add that the Jags may be willing to release Tony Pashos now that they have stocked up at OT.

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The Titans got Gerald McRath. This makes me sad. I've seen him play a lot and I thought he might be a good pickup for us.

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[quote=Lotus;551050]You are correct - there is not a strong chance that a 3rd rounder would be an instant starter at OT. You are always wisely pointing out the Levi Jones scenario. [B]I would add that the Jags may be willing to release Tony Pashos now that they have stocked up at OT.[/B][/quote]

Nice dig...we should be able to grab one of these talented vets w/o breaking the bank...man I hope the FO is thinking this way.

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AQ Shipley & Duke Robinson still on the board. Go Shipley

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I'd still like to get an extra pick late here so we can pick up a running back-Jennings, Sheets, and Ringer are all still available.

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My wish list for the late rounds includes a Center and a Running back. There should be good value on a Quarterback with the supplemental selection.

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Cincy just picked up a punter in the 5th round. I hope they have better luck than we did.

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[quote=Ruhskins;551081]Cincy just picked up a punter in the 5th round. I hope they have better luck than we did.[/quote]

Looks like Plack will have some competition

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Meridith keeps slipping...I hope he falls to us, I'd rather take him than Duke Robinson in the 5th round.

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how bout Robinson, Duke in the 5th? 2nd ranked gaurd according 2 scouts inc!!! o-line needs to get younger... or A. Q Shipley?

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I'd take Jamon Meredeth OT but I wouldn't mind any pick on the O Line.

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[quote=2BIG2BSKINNY;551085]how bout Robinson, Duke in the 5th? 2nd ranked gaurd according 2 scouts inc!!! o-line needs to get younger... or A. Q Shipley?[/quote]

I'd rather take Meridith, Robinson has weight and character issues.

From ESPN about Robinson:

[quote]Is benched for the 2008 season opener versus Tenn-Chattanooga and suspended for the first half of Game 4 versus TCU  both due to undisclosed disciplinary reasons.[/quote]

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One of the interesting things is that the QBs remaining all might be better pros than Mark Sanchez. Hoyer, Harrell, Willey, Parker Wilson, Bradstater, Nate Davis, Mike Reilly, David Johnson...all of these guys are legitimately good prospects, and I'd say that there's a good chance there are two or more franchise QBs among that group of seven.

However, you can only take a flyer on one and no guy is significantly head and shoulders above the rest.

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If we get Meredeth, we potentially get a starter to compete against Heyer and Jansen.

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Scott McKillop is a great pick. Boy, does that Singletary guy know LBs!

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Why is Meredeth dropping so far?

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[quote=Soup's Uncle;551099]Why is Meredeth dropping so far?[/quote]

I don't know but I think he's the pick if he's there.

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[quote=vallin21;551101]I don't know but I think he's the pick if he's there.[/quote]

I hope your'e right

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we will pick him next!

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Meredith, please god, let him be there, if Danny boy gets someone else I'm going to go ballistic.

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Watch, they'll blow it and pick a safety or something.

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I wouldn't rule out a MLB like Darry Beckwith, Jasper Brinkley, or Dannell Ellerbe in the 5th.

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no keep the faith guys!!!!!

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Follett, Duke or Meredith ... I hope at least

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Hopefully the Ravens don't take him

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Chargers picked up a CB, Ravens on the clock...

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1 more pick

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were next!!!!!!!! cmon god please take merideth!

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[quote=Dr Do Itch Big;551117]were next!!!!!!!! cmon god please take merideth![/quote]

I think we're going to be disappointed again.

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Duke Robinson

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[quote=GTripp0012;551090]One of the interesting things is that the QBs remaining all might be better pros than Mark Sanchez. Hoyer, Harrell, Willey, Parker Wilson, Bradstater, Nate Davis, Mike Reilly, David Johnson...all of these guys are legitimately good prospects, and I'd say that there's a good chance there are two or more franchise QBs among that group of seven.

However, you can only take a flyer on one and no guy is significantly head and shoulders above the rest.[/quote]

Do you think we'll draft one Tripp? Or bring one in after the draft? Zorn said we'll bring in another QB.

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Come on Meridith!!! Pleaes take him, please take him!!

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This is it