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[quote=mredskins;875517]Sure we will see who does better next year. Don't beleive what the media shovels you.

[B]Why do folks have such a hard time understanding we have a bad time (getting better) but still bad.[/B][/quote]

I'm not having a bad time. Why are you having such a bad time?

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[quote=skinsguy;875529]I'm not having a bad time. Why are you having such a bad time?[/quote]
team, lol, god i wish we were in the playoffs.

It sucks sitting here in B-more with folks all fired up about their weekend, when we yet again get to talk about the off season, hooray!

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[quote=mredskins;875542]team, lol, god i wish we were in the playoffs.

It sucks sitting here in B-more with folks all fired up about their weekend, when we yet again get to talk about the off season, hooray![/quote]

I bet! I have friends who are huge Ravens fans and they have already put the Ravens in the AFC Championship game even before playing the Texans yet.

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[quote=skinsguy;875546]I bet! I have friends who are huge Ravens fans and they have already put the Ravens in the AFC Championship game even before playing the Texans yet.[/quote]


I hope the Ravens mind set is the same way so they get sent home.

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[quote=mredskins;875571]I hope the Ravens mind set is the same way so they get sent home.[/quote]

Me too. Personally, I'd love more than anything to see a Broncos/Texans AFC Championship. Out with the old, in with the new.

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[quote=skinsguy;875424]No love for Brad Johnson? Our only NFC East Championship season since Gibbs I?[/quote]

I stand corrected I almost forgot about Brad. I remember he lit it up for the first 10 games before he wen't down with that injury. Never was the same when he came back, that's probably why it slipped my mind.

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[quote=Hog1;875515]If you think the Jets player, moral, locker room and coaching situation are in better shape than the Skins......I have some of the same for you.......[/quote]Do we [URL="https://twitter.com/#!/LFletcher59/status/154063868149239808"]really know if there aren't[/URL] two or three Redskins players who think that Rex Grossman is awful and is preventing the Redskins from winning? And if there are, wouldn't that make the Redskins locker room just as bad as the Jets?

I'm glad that we generally sign players with some modicum of discretion as to what they say to people, but I wouldn't go as far to call the Jets locker room a circus and pretend like the Redskins have it better. The Jets apparently have some jerks on their team. They'll get over that.

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[quote=GTripp0012;875597]Do we [URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/LFletcher59/status/154063868149239808"]really know if there aren't[/URL] two or three Redskins players who think that Rex Grossman is awful and is preventing the Redskins from winning? [B]And if there are, wouldn't that make the Redskins locker room just as bad as the Jets?[/B]

I'm glad that we generally sign players with some modicum of discretion as to what they say to people, but I wouldn't go as far to call the Jets locker room a circus and pretend like the Redskins have it better. The Jets apparently have some jerks on their team. They'll get over that.[/quote]

When "If and then" occur....ask me then....
Until then, I am....sure I would rather have our situation. I'd rather not be in the negative speculation business as the reality of team building is enough for me....

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[quote=SBXVII;875496]What would cause you to do front flips?[/quote]

Having Luck or RGIII drop to the sixth spot.

[quote=NYCskinfan82;875486]Why would Indy give up a healthy Manning, if they release/trade him it's because his neck injury is worse than they originally thought it was. He wouldn't want to come here and I don't want him. Give me Bradford or RGIII.[/quote]

Why? $28 million dollars is why(as well as the rest of his contract kicking in). Having a day 1 starter (Luck) is why. Manning asking to be let go because of said rookie is why. They very well may keep him after drafting Luck (and they will draft him), but it depends on his health and if Manning asks for his release.

[quote=Son Of Man;875491]I would be pissed if this Madden 12 plan went through.[/quote]

That isn't a Madden 12 plan. It's actually a very good plan.Getting Manning as a free agent (if healthy) seems almost to good to be true. It all depends on his health. A Madden plan would be trading Cooley for a 2nd rounder, and Moss for a 1st rounder. That's a Madden plan.(aka...make believe)


[quote=mredskins;875499]Manning would never come here. He wants more rings we are too far off for that happen in the next few years. PM will be a in a wheelchair by the time this team catches up to him.

NYJ is a perfect fit for him. Great def, weapons on O, etc...[/quote]

New York Jets will fall off big time next year. Their run defense was horrible this year, and their O-line broke down. If you read that article I posted about teammates blasting Sanchez, some of those same teammates said he became shell shocked from all the hits he took due to the bad pass blocking and inconsistent WRs/RBs. If anything, the 49ers would be the best spot for him.

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I agree NC. If Manning is available we have to get him.

Even if PM is healthy the Colts and the new GM maybe ready for the Luck era to begin and be fine with cutting ties with a fat PM contract to rebuild the team for sustainable success in the future. They have the #1 pick and the opportunity to have the new franchise Qb for the next 10 years.

It really does seem surreal when you are talking about the Colts possibly releasing a healthy PM for a rookie, but the case can be made for such a situation.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;875890]I agree NC. If Manning is available we have to get him.

.[/quote]

He will never play in the same divison as Eli,move on.

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[quote=Giantone;875909]He will never play in the same divison as Eli,move on.[/quote]

At least you hope not Giants....lol!!!!

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[quote=Eknox;875911]At least you hope not Giants....lol!!!![/quote]


nope, his dad won't allow it.

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thats funny giantone. i dont want manning, but know he is a grown god damn man, that he makes his own decisions. and if he wanted dan snyders money, it would be hello to DC

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Manning v Manning twice a year would be a prime matchup for the league.

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Manning Bowl...

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[quote=Mattyk;875938]Manning v Manning twice a year would be a prime matchup for the league.[/quote]

Honestly looking at this move from a league stand point and in particular from a Fox stand point this would be huge for any network airing the game as far as ratings and pre game hype machine. Throw in that the Redskins and Giants could both be in the hunt for the division and playoff spots at the end of the year, the TV networks would salivating for this matchup twice a year.

Throw in the fact that DC is a huge market and the fact that a guy like PM could come in here and turn this deal around fast making the Redskins a NFC East, playoff contender, and SB contender for a 2 or 3 years it would be a huge, both beneficial to the Redskins and Peyton.

So for if Archie doesn't want it to happen he is just trying to save Eli from being embarrassed by his older brother twice a year.

Can a father really try and control the older Manning's career? He may have been able to get away with it when Eli was a rookie, but you are talking about a grown ass man here who has accomplished more than his father ever did and could become a hero in the Nations Capital.

There can be more reasons made for Peyton to come to DC then there are for him not too.

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I say go get RGIII. Don't give away the farm but be willing to part with a piece or two of heavy equipment. Right now I'm willing to give St. Louis two first and our second as well as an additional pick next year.

RGIII is a legitimate first overall talent, just so happens that he's in the same draft with a once in a generation prospect. He is the real deal, unmatched athletic ability, rocket arm, pinpoint accuracy, and a mind thats more impressive then all of that.

And as a lot of you are aware of things don't start happening until you start to get real production out of the QB position.

Anway heres how I see it, we can trade back and pick a bunch of nice pieces, draft a project like Tannehill, and risk our coach being fired provided he eeks out a .500 season. Or we could draft RGIII, give him an offensive mastermind like the Shanahans and still have a QB prospect that can excel under any coach in the league should the Shanahan experiment prove to be a failure in the near future. In other words there would be hope should we have to start over.

To me thats much better then seeing Shanahan get fired next year or the year after and being stuck with Tannehill.

[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;876120]I say go get RGIII. Don't give away the farm but be willing to part with a piece or two of heavy equipment. Right now I'm willing to give St. Louis two first and our second as well as an additional pick next year.

RGIII is a legitimate first overall talent, just so happens that he's in the same draft with a once in a generation prospect. He is the real deal, unmatched athletic ability, rocket arm, pinpoint accuracy, and a mind thats more impressive then all of that.

And as a lot of you are aware of things don't start happening until you start to get real production out of the QB position.

Anway heres how I see it, we can trade back and pick a bunch of nice pieces, draft a project like Tannehill, and risk our coach being fired provided he eeks out a .500 season. Or we could draft RGIII, give him an offensive mastermind like the Shanahans and still have a QB prospect that can excel under any coach in the league should the Shanahan experiment prove to be a failure in the near future. In other words there would be hope should we have to start over.

To me thats much better then seeing Shanahan get fired next year or the year after and being stuck with Tannehill.[/QUOTE]

I agree I think RG3 can start for us day one like Dalton and cam did this year and have an immediate impact. Heard GB wasn't going to franchise flynn but apparently Seattle and Cleveland are heavy suitors for him. Either way No QB equals another losing season and mike wont last another 5 win year, and he shouldn't if that's the case.

#Hail to the Redskins

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Sign Matt Flynn and draft Kellan Moore in the 2nd:) Pick up an OL with the 6th pick, and sign 2 of the 3 receivers V. Jackson/Desean/Bowe and we're suprebowl bound. If the Giants can make it this far then so can we! We're just a QB and a stud WR away.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;876120]I say go get RGIII. Don't give away the farm but be willing to part with a piece or two of heavy equipment.[/quote]

I agree with you but I would keep enough to draft LaMichael James so I'm not giving up the 2nd rounder. Those two on the skins would make the skins offense atleast two times better than they are now

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[quote=diehardskin2982;876135]I agree with you but I would keep enough to draft LaMichael James so I'm not giving up the 2nd rounder. Those two on the skins would make the skins offense atleast two times better than they are now[/quote]

i dont see the sense in using a 2nd rounder on lamichael james when we have helu and royster who looked very good last season. we have other areas of need that could be addressed with that pick such as the secondary, a wide receiver, or an offensive lineman.

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If we draft a RB in this upcoming draft, I will drive to Redskins park and slap the shit of of Mike Shanahan myself. You think his skin is red now, wait till my five fingers meets his face.

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I love how we're talking about using high draft picks on running backs when we have Mike Shanahan and two completely capable young backs here. Smart. I would do that if running back was the only hole on the team. But it's not. In fact, on offense alone, I would rank quarterback, wide receiver, starting right tackle, and backup offensive linemen a bigger need than running back. And if I threw in defense as well, I'd make starting cornerback and free safety a bigger need too. In short, if we had 7 picks in this upcoming draft, I'd use 6 of them on other needs before I even thought about drafting a running back.

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[quote=NC_Skins;876139]If we draft a RB in this upcoming draft, I will drive to Redskins park and slap the shit of of Mike Shanahan myself. You think his skin is red now, wait till my five fingers meets his face.[/quote]

Ha Ha, you won't even have to drive I'll pick u up myself all expenses paid.

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Just read this on Baltimoresun.com

stevegould Wow. Really? RT @BramWeinstein: One of the people who's opinion at ESPN I trust the most says Peyton + Saturday to Redskins is VERY likely.

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[quote=Big C;876137]i dont see the sense in using a 2nd rounder on lamichael james when we have helu and royster who looked very good last season. we have other areas of need that could be addressed with that pick such as the secondary, a wide receiver, or an offensive lineman.[/quote]

Why let me educate you sir. Trust me I felt the same way as you in the past but not anymore. I have read on Hogshaven that
Kyle Shanahan has already stated that if Hightower re-signs then the Redskins will actively seek out a fourth running back to the group.

We have a power runner in Hightower
A do it all in Helu
A change of Pace in Royster
In LaMichael James we will be the gamechanger

He is not to be used as a traditional runningback. You can line him up and use him at multiple positions like a Percy Harvin, Darren Sproles, or Reggie Bush. James can be put in the slot. He would often be on the field at the same time as our other runningbacks. Defenses have to account for a player of his skillset and caliber. Making it easier for other player to get one- on- one matchups and open.

Special teams- Goodbye Banks, Hello James. This guy has breakout speed and is dangerous in open space.

I think we have the rookie wideouts needed our roster now, they just need to be coached up and seasoned. You could maybe add Eddie Royal to replace Moss and a big target like Bowe, Colston, or Jackson. However Hankerson can be that big target. Let's not mention our tighends in this equation. I think if your looking at James as a tradional back then you might be a tad shortsided in your thinking. If you see him a utility player than you can see the potiental

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[quote=WaldSkins;876147]Just read this on Baltimoresun.com

stevegould Wow. Really? RT @BramWeinstein: One of the people who's opinion at ESPN I trust the most says Peyton + Saturday to Redskins is VERY likely.[/quote]

[url=http://www.wtop.com/?nid=357&sid=2705825]Misunderstood tweet causes firestorm over Peyton Manning's future - WTOP.com[/url]

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I have the feeling that the RG3 will be a Redskin. We already know that the Colts will draft Luck and the Rams and Vikings have Bradford and Ponder so both Minnesota and St. Louis will be drafting at other positions. RG3 could easily fall to #6 where the Redskins pick if Cleveland takes Trent Richardson of Alabama and The Bucs take Claiborne from LSU.

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[quote=Big C;876137]i dont see the sense in using a 2nd rounder on lamichael james when we have helu and royster who looked very good last season. we have other areas of need that could be addressed with that pick such as the secondary, a wide receiver, or an offensive lineman.[/quote]

I definitely see them drafting a running back this year. I mean at the very least Ryan Torains unexplained drop has to be fresh in their minds and when they're not yelling at Helu and Royster to get better in the weight room they'll be scouting RB's With that said I doubt they would take LaMicahel James in the 2nd.

On top of that why would we want to short change ourselves on a decade worth of pro-bowl level QB play because we were determined to get a 2nd round RB?

Be willing to pay the price. I mean don't give them 3 first round picks, but be willing to part with next years first round corner, Guard, or whatever that first round pick would turn out to be.

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I would sign Flynn or a free agent and stand pat with the draft pick or trade back if RG3 is gone. Don't morgage the farm for 1 player.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;876148]Why let me educate you sir. Trust me I felt the same way as you in the past but not anymore. I have read on Hogshaven that
Kyle Shanahan has already stated that if Hightower re-signs then the Redskins will actively seek out a fourth running back to the group.

We have a power runner in Hightower
A do it all in Helu
A change of Pace in Royster
In LaMichael James we will be the gamechanger

He is not to be used as a traditional runningback. You can line him up and use him at multiple positions like a Percy Harvin, Darren Sproles, or Reggie Bush. James can be put in the slot. He would often be on the field at the same time as our other runningbacks. Defenses have to account for a player of his skillset and caliber. Making it easier for other player to get one- on- one matchups and open.

Special teams- Goodbye Banks, Hello James. This guy has breakout speed and is dangerous in open space.

I think we have the rookie wideouts needed our roster now, they just need to be coached up and seasoned. You could maybe add Eddie Royal to replace Moss and a big target like Bowe, Colston, or Jackson. However Hankerson can be that big target. Let's not mention our tighends in this equation. I think if your looking at James as a tradional back then you might be a tad shortsided in your thinking. If you see him a utility player than you can see the potiental[/quote]

Not gonna happen. Shanny's calling card is getting production from anyone he puts in the backfield. They have several needs. RB isn't one of them. Maybe later in the draft.

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[quote=VTSkins1961;876161]I would sign Flynn or a free agent and stand pat with the draft pick or trade back if RG3 is gone. Don't morgage the farm for 1 player.[/quote]

You are basically correct. But we have wasted picks on far less. If we can get Luck by trading the farm we should do it. We can upgrade elsewhere slowly thru free agency and next years draft we can trade down some and get many good players to rebuild. If we can get Luck then it should be done.

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[quote=Mattyk;875938]Manning v Manning twice a year would be a prime matchup for the league.[/quote]


For the league ....not for the Mannings.I will go back to the year Eli came in and they made the switch with the Chargers ,the parents did'nt even want them in the same conference back then.You can get the same press in NY by playing in the same town and stadium without going against each other (other then pre season) once every 4 years.


I also really doubt the Peyton manning needs Dan Snyders money,Woody Johnsons money is just as green.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;876120]I say go get RGIII. Don't give away the farm but be willing to part with a piece or two of heavy equipment. Right now I'm willing to give St. Louis two first and our second as well as an additional pick next year.

RGIII is a legitimate first overall talent, just so happens that he's in the same draft with a once in a generation prospect. He is the real deal, unmatched athletic ability, rocket arm, pinpoint accuracy, and a mind thats more impressive then all of that.

And as a lot of you are aware of things don't start happening until you start to get real production out of the QB position.

Anway heres how I see it, we can trade back and pick a bunch of nice pieces, draft a project like Tannehill, and risk our coach being fired provided he eeks out a .500 season. Or we could draft RGIII, give him an offensive mastermind like the Shanahans and still have a QB prospect that can excel under any coach in the league should the Shanahan experiment prove to be a failure in the near future. In other words there would be hope should we have to start over.

To me thats much better then seeing Shanahan get fired next year or the year after and being stuck with Tannehill.[/quote]

I could not agree with this post more!!! Get it done.

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Isn't it funny how the year started off with so many choices at QB and possibilities,and now it has shrunk to just RGIII or free agency?

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[quote=Bushead;876234]Isn't it funny how the year started off with so many choices at QB and possibilities,and now it has shrunk to just RGIII or free agency?[/quote]

Personally I think that Tannehill, with seasoning, will make a dynamic NFL franchise QB. I would add him to your mix.

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I'm annoyed by the posters who come on here and say that we shouldn't trade up to get RGIII. Those of you who have posted that have either not seen enough of RGIII or have seen so much of Rex that the horror of it has blinded you. Or, you just plain don't know what you're talking about.

I've seen a lot of college QB's in my 64 years and let me clue you in: RGIII is the TRUTH. We're talking about an instant starter, a true Franchise QB, and, in time, a possible All-Pro.

I've even seen where someone on here says he's not an accurate passer. You need to go back and look at some more film on him because RGIII is one of the most accurate deep passers that I have ever seen in college football.

The only concern I have about him is that we won't be able to trade up to get him.

Here's a summation on RGIII from Walter Football: "1/9/12: Griffin earned his Heisman Trophy and truly was the best player in college football this season as he led Baylor to a 10-win season. Griffin carried Baylor to thrilling wins over Oklahoma, Kansas and TCU. He has displayed a very strong arm and good mobility. His accuracy was phenomenal on passes to the short, intermediate, and deep part of the field. In 2011, Griffin completed 72 percent of his passes for 4,293 yards with 37 touchdowns and six interceptions. He has also rushed for 699 yards and 10 touchdowns. His decision-making was superb."

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So Smoot... What is your opinion on the whole ESPN anchor, Manning & Saturday to the Redskins whole thing?

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[quote=Lotus;876243]Personally I think that Tannehill, with seasoning, will make a dynamic NFL franchise QB. I would add him to your mix.[/quote]

Oh yea, there are options, and that cetainly could happen, but in the beginning of the season, so many Qbs were suppose to come out that the Redskins were definitely going to have several choices. Now everyone stayed, Luck is out of reach and RGIII might be too expensive to trade up for.

Which does open up options for the 2nd round QB, but I just don't see how Shanahan doesn't get at least one starter right off the bat, rather Flynn, RGIII or trade.

I personally see getting one elite guy, having rex as number 2 and then someone like Tannehill or maybe even Moore as a 3rd project QB.