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[quote=NYCskinfan82;885424]Me three.[/quote]

Me four.

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[quote=Mattyk;885356]Or maybe there are reasons why he was a 7th round draft pick.

Would you have any concerns about giving him a big money contract based on little we've seen from him?[/quote]

Well, as to your first point, that's what I am talking about. Just because he was a 7th round pick out of college does not mean that he has not learned and improved. We have some empirical evidence that he can play in the NFL, and play effectively.

Second point, my thinking is that the market for him is more in line for a medium money contract. He has not earned a big money deal yet, which is part of the attraction in my mind. Why cant the Redskins take a player on the way up, instead of one on the way down (i.e. Peyton Manning).

Bottom line, I just fail to see the logic of ruling him out altogether as an option right now.

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I agree that there's legitimate concerns about Flynn but I could care less about his draft status. Holding Flynn's draft status against him to me is like not dating a girl because she was chubby in High School.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;885539]I agree that there's legitimate concerns about Flynn but I could care less about his draft status. Holding Flynn's draft status against him to me is like not dating a girl because she was chubby in High School.[/quote]

Once chubby, always chubby;)

Actually, if she was chubby in high school chances are she'll be fat as hell when she gets older.

Hey! U guys need lay off on sanchez he's a baller!

Says sfredskins

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[quote=44Deezel;885542]Once chubby, always chubby;)

Actually, if she was chubby in high school chances are she'll be fat as hell when she gets older.[/quote]

I said date not marry :D

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That's your 12,000th post.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885558]That's your 12,000th post.[/quote]

Time for a Dirtbag59 celebration!

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Insider please..
[url=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story?id=7574707&_slug_=biggest-offseason-needs-every-nfc-east-team&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fstory%3fid%3d7574707%26_slug_%3dbiggest-offseason-needs-every-nfc-east-team]NFL: Biggest offseason needs for every NFC East team - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Dirtbag59;885555]I said date not marry :D[/quote]

Major distinction. My bad;)

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[quote=CultBrennan59;885560]Insider please..
[URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story?id=7574707&_slug_=biggest-offseason-needs-every-nfc-east-team&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fstory%3fid%3d7574707%26_slug_%3dbiggest-offseason-needs-every-nfc-east-team"]NFL: Biggest offseason needs for every NFC East team - ESPN[/URL][/quote]


Hmm... maybe QB is on our list? Nah

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Okay last year i had a clear favorite in Ponder but this year i keep going back and forth on draftable quarterbacks. If we go FA i think we should draft Cousins for the future. He is a true leader. Tannehill i think for a faster starter.

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Let's say we don't sign Manning, what would you guys rather have:

QB RGIII
RB Helu/Royster/Hightower
FB Young
WR Hank/Gaffney/Dwight Jones(3rd round pick)/Royal/Rainey
TE Davis/Cooley

or

QB Tannehill
RB Helu/Royster/Hightower
FB Young
WR Hank/Blackmon/Royal/Gaffney/Rainey/Moss
TE Davis/Cooley

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Add Moss to group A as well.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885558]That's your 12,000th post.[/quote]
AND ......well worth the wait!

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885579]Let's say we don't sign Manning, what would you guys rather have:

QB RGIII
RB Helu/Royster/Hightower
FB Young
WR Hank/Gaffney/Dwight Jones(3rd round pick)/Royal/Rainey
TE Davis/Cooley

or

QB Tannehill
RB Helu/Royster/Hightower
FB Young
WR Hank/Blackmon/Royal/Gaffney/Rainey/Moss
TE Davis/Cooley[/quote]If Tannehill more generally means "the guy GTripp thinks is the next best in this draft" then option the second. But if it literally means "Ryan Tannehill," then give me the first option.

I do think the Shanahan's are starting to sour on Tannehill because his broken foot has prevented Mike from getting a look at Tannehill in the two most controlled environments: Senior Bowl and now Combine (though he'll be there to interview). I would expect Cousins, Foles, and Weeden to all have pushed themselves up into second round consideration (or really late first; 30-32) for us.

Wild card remains Osweiler. I can ensure you the Redskins like the guys above. I can't tell you what they think of Osweiler, though he seems like the kind of developmental guy they could fall in love with.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885579]Let's say we don't sign Manning, what would you guys rather have:

QB RGIII
RB Helu/Royster/Hightower
FB Young
WR Hank/Gaffney/Dwight Jones(3rd round pick)/Royal/Rainey
TE Davis/Cooley

or

QB Tannehill
RB Helu/Royster/Hightower
FB Young
WR Hank/[B]Blackmon[/B]/Royal/Gaffney/Rainey/Moss
TE Davis/Cooley[/quote]

So you are telling me we are going to trade up for Blackmon? Because I guarantee you he won't be there at #6.

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I'm so, so, soooooo tired of the speculations. I'm just going to reserve further comments about the quarterback position until Free Agency (if I can fight the urge.)

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[quote=skinsguy;885806]I'm so, so, soooooo tired of the speculations. I'm just going to reserve further comments about the quarterback position until Free Agency ([B]if I can fight the urge[/B].)[/quote]

You know you can't I'm trying to do the same and I can't stop myself. :)

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;885807]You know you can't I'm trying to do the same and I can't stop myself. :)[/quote]

I keep flipping back to the Warpath everyday hoping SmootSmack has started an "Eighth Wonder of the World:Quarterback Rumors" Thread, but I haven't seen it yet...lol!

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it's hard. i just wish they would cut the peyton manning crap. he's done

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[quote=skinsguy;885811]I keep flipping back to the Warpath everyday hoping SmootSmack has started an "Eighth Wonder of the World:Quarterback Rumors" Thread, but I haven't seen it yet...lol![/quote]

Matty, should I tell him?....

Seriously though, nothing to report right now

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[quote=SmootSmack;885817]Matty, should I tell him?....

Seriously though, nothing to report right now[/quote]

Except for a massive 7 team trade in which we acquire Mark Sanchez...

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[QUOTE=SkinzWin;885682]So you are telling me we are going to trade up for Blackmon? Because I guarantee you he won't be there at #6.[/QUOTE]

Yep, No one is gonna be there at 6. IDK why we are even scouting anyone in this draft. Just forfeit the pick.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885820]Yep, No one is gonna be there at 6. IDK why we are even scouting anyone in this draft. Just forfeit the pick.[/quote]i couldn't agree more

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885820]Yep, No one is gonna be there at 6. IDK why we are even scouting anyone in this draft. Just forfeit the pick.[/quote]

Sarcasm gets you everywhere huh? My reason for saying this is Blackmon is an elite talent and I just can't imagine all the teams in picks #2-5 would let him slip by.

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[QUOTE=SkinzWin;885822]Sarcasm gets you everywhere huh? My reason for saying this is Blackmon is an elite talent and I just can't imagine all the teams in picks #2-5 would let him slip by.[/QUOTE]

Sarcasm is like Visa: Accepted everywhere. Everyone projected to go top 10 is an elite talent. Only person in this draft you can guarantee won't be there at 6 is Andrew Luck. So instead of everyone dumping on someone's proposal by saying: " I guarantee player X won't be there at 6." We acknowledge everything after Luck is a toss up and answer the question.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885828]Sarcasm is like Visa: Accepted everywhere. Everyone projected to go top 10 is an elite talent. Only person in this draft you can guarantee won't be there at 6 is Andrew Luck. So instead of everyone dumping on someone's proposal by saying: " I guarantee player X won't be there at 6." We acknowledge everything after Luck is a toss up and answer the question.[/quote]

Well how come I can't have an opinion? What if I want to think he won't be there? And I say so. And so you chastise me for my opinion? ;) I love you too.

PS, Visa joke is funny.

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[quote=SmootSmack;885817]Matty, should I tell him?....

Seriously though, nothing to report right now[/quote]

LOL! I figure there will not be anything much to report at least until the end of this week. I'm on board with bringing Mark Rypien back if he's still willing to play.

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[quote=skinsguy;885841]LOL! I figure there will not be anything much to report at least until the end of this week. I'm on board with bringing Mark Rypien back if he's still willing to play.[/quote]

Doug has more left in the tank. You have to keep all options open.

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I didn't say you can't have an opinion, it just gets annoying when no matter who you bring up, "They won't be there at 6."

PS I love me too.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885845]I didn't say you can't have an opinion, it just gets annoying when no matter who you bring up, "They won't be there at 6."

PS I love me too.[/quote]

One man's annoying is another man's bread and butter. :)

PPS Do you love that I love you too or just you love you too? Just to clarify.

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[QUOTE=SkinzWin;885851]One man's annoying is another man's bread and butter.



PPS Do you love that I love you too or just you love you too? Just to clarify.[/QUOTE]

To the 2nd part: Both.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885852]To the 2nd part: Both.[/quote]

Made my day. Now, moving on... When is this 8th sign going to arrive? After the combine, start of FA, or the draft? Or never...

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;885820]Yep, No one is gonna be there at 6. IDK why we are even scouting anyone in this draft. Just forfeit the pick.[/quote]

Exactly! Since only 5 players are draft eligible, that means we are SOL.

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Here's your 8th sign....

[url=http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/buccaneers_release_dt_albert_haynesworth/9937702]Buccaneers release DT Albert Haynesworth | Yardbarker.com[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;885817]Matty, should I tell him?....

Seriously though, nothing to report right now[/quote]

'Nuff said! I get the [B]Washington Examiner Sports Digest[/B] e-mailed to me each day. The [B]Digest[/B] includes the [I]Redskins Confidential[/I] and it has been essentially the same report every day for a while now.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/15/mayock-luck-is-great-but-not-a-once-in-a-lifetime/]Mayock: Luck is great, but not a “once in a lifetime” prospect | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;885948][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/15/mayock-luck-is-great-but-not-a-once-in-a-lifetime/]Mayock: Luck is great, but not a “once in a lifetime” prospect | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

I anticipate that after the combine, Luck vs RGIII will intensify greatly...just my guess.

...btw I have no idea either way. And I don't think it should be important to us this draft anyway...trading up i.e. mortgaging the future, at this stage in the Shanahan regime is not in the franchise's best interest (though it is in Mike's best interest). For those fascinated with the principal-agent concept from business school/econ days, well this is how it applies to football.

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[quote=The Goat;885983]I anticipate that after the combine, Luck vs RGIII will intensify greatly...just my guess.

...btw I have no idea either way. And I don't think it should be important to us this draft anyway...trading up i.e. mortgaging the future, at this stage in the Shanahan regime is not in the franchise's best interest (though it is in Mike's best interest). For those fascinated with the principal-agent concept from business school/econ days, well this is how it applies to football.[/quote]

Given our potential cap space and the availability of free agents in areas of need of offense (OG/WR) I don't think it is such a terrible thing to trade up.