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I figured Te'o would run in the 4.75 range at best so I'm not overly concerned with his 40 time.

I'm still more concerned about his web of lies with the imaginary girlfriend BS and even his excuses after his poor combine kinda turned me off. I'd pass on the guy even in the 2nd. I just don't think he's anything special.

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Secondary Players that I want to learn more about after the combine:

Shamarko Thomas S Syracuse
David Amerson CB NC State
Robert Alford CB Southeastern LA
Steve Williams (had a 4.25 40 the offical time is BS)- also 40.5 vert and 128 inch broad jump.
Tyrann Mathieu- He did very well- not counting the bench press

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Mathieu is another guy that I think that can just play football. I don't care how much he benches. His off the field issues are going to hurt his value... but however drafts him, and if they can keep his head on straight, and he accepts good coaching..he can end up being the steal of the draft. I'd love for us to get him in the mid rounds.

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[quote=Mattyk;995631] I'm still more concerned about his web of lies with the imaginary girlfriend BS and even his excuses after his poor combine kinda turned me off. I'd pass on the guy even in the 2nd. I just don't think he's anything special.[/quote]

I somewhat agree that he is overrated, but I do think he was telling the truth about the "girlfriend". He's smart enough to know that if teams find out he's lying, it's over for him. Anyway, I would love to see the guy wearing a burgundy and gold jersey.

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Duke Williams and Shamarrko Williams would be steals in the secondary late in the draft.

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I watched shamarko Thomas and wasn't all that impressed. Mayock calls him a poor mans bob sanders, which if we're talking about being injured often, that's not good.

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[quote=skinsfan69;995636]Mathieu is another guy that I think that can just play football. I don't care how much he benches. His off the field issues are going to hurt his value... but however drafts him, and if they can keep his head on straight, and he accepts good coaching..he can end up being the steal of the draft. I'd love for us to get him in the mid rounds.[/quote]

He is this year's Janoris Jenkins. I love his answers to interviews at the combine. His answers where genuine and what they should have been for someone who has screwed up their shot. He knows it, and he wants to prove himself. I would love to draft the honey badger. He is my 4th/5th round diamond in the rough hopeful pick.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/02/26/tyrann-mathieu-has-another-solid-showing-at-combine-this-time-on-the-field/]Tyrann Mathieu has another solid showing at combine, this time on the field[/url]

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I agree mathieu is a hardnosed football player. He always finds a way to the football. Sure he's small. Sure he is "weak" for not putting up 225lb 10 or more times. The point is I can name a lot of NFL guys who don't have the measurable a but can play.
Russell Wilson (height)
Boldin (speed)
Antoine Winfield (height and injury history)
Bob sanders (height and injury history-that one he couldn't seem to shake off)
Tom Brady (speed, frame, arm strength)
Darren sproles (size)
Drew Brees (height, arm strength)

The list goes on and on

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You cannot over look his combine and even more important his play against Alabama. He was awful in that game, and that is a problem. Out of position many times and couldn't shed a block from NFL level talent.

There are teams out there that will draft him in round one, but it will be a mistake.

He may be a football player but I think he will fail as an NFL elite player or even as a good one.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;995650]You cannot over look his combine and even more important his play against Alabama. He was awful in that game, and that is a problem. Out of position many times and couldn't shed a block from NFL level talent.

There are teams out there that will draft him in round one, but it will be a mistake.

He may be a football player but I think he will fail as an NFL elite player or even as a good one.[/quote]

Are you referring to Mathieu? NO ONE will draft him in the first round. As a matter of fact I can guarantee you that unless there is a bat $#!% crazy GM out there, he won't go in the top two rounds and maybe not even in the top three. I see him in the 4th-5th round. I give 3rd round a 50/50 shot. 1st and 2nd rounds, no chance.

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No sorry I was speaking about Teo.

I would draft the badger in the middle rounds. He has upside and fills multiple needs.

Another guy who I find intriguing for our team is Denard Robinson. Think of the pistol with Morris, RG III, and DR in the backfield. A lot of different options to go with a package like that.

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I will add this as well. Adding a player with the versatility of Harvin or in this years draft Tryvon Austin (will go round 1 no shot) would make our team even scarier on offense.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;995656]I will add this as well. Adding a player with the versatility of Harvin or in this years draft Tryvon Austin (will go round 1 no shot) would make our team even scarier on offense.[/quote]

Tryvon Austin??? Really???

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;995650]You cannot over look his combine and even more important his play against Alabama. He was awful in that game, and that is a problem. Out of position many times and couldn't shed a block from NFL level talent.

There are teams out there that will draft him in round one, but it will be a mistake.

He may be a football player but I think he will fail as an NFL elite player or even as a good one.[/quote]

You can't blame Manti for his play against Bama. At the time he was grieving for his fake dead girlfriend. Fake grief is distracting.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;995656]I will add this as well. Adding a player with the versatility of Harvin or in this years draft Tryvon Austin (will go round 1 no shot) would make our team even scarier on offense.[/quote]

Tayvon Austin is moving up people's boards. I feel fairly certain he can go late first round. He is an explosive athlete and current NFL offenses put more credence on the quick, shifty slot receiver/running back/kick returner combo guys like Percy Harvin.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;995655]Another guy who I find intriguing for our team is Denard Robinson. Think of the pistol with Morris, RG III, and DR in the backfield. A lot of different options to go with a package like that.[/quote]

By drafting Robinson will automatically make the offense more potent than ever, but I don't think we should draft him until 5th round or after. If he actually falls down that far then I would be happy with this pick.

Edit: I forgot to add to my point about the offense being potent with Robinson - if he is able to develop his ability to play as WR then we will have lot of mismatch ups with safeties by using motion from RB position to WR

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[url=http://sonofwashington.com/2013/02/26/which-draft-prospects-have-the-redskins-targeted-so-far/]Which Draft Prospects Have The Redskins Targeted So Far? | Son of Washington (Redskins Podcast and Blog)[/url]

Here's all the prospects we've talked to so far.

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Phillip Thomas is a good prospect....he won't be taken as high as Elam or Vacarro, but he might be what the Redskins need...he could fit in with our defense...lately I've been hearing about Jonathan Cyprien....but he may get drafted before the Redskins pick...

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;995673]Phillip Thomas is a good prospect....he won't be taken as high as Elam or Vacarro, but he might be what the Redskins need...he could fit in with our defense...lately I've been hearing about Jonathan Cyprien....but he may get drafted before the Redskins pick...[/quote]

I saw a mock from nfldraftscout head man Matt miller picking cyprien going to the broncos I believe in the first round. He also had us passing on Elam, predicting he'd go in the third round. BS

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Not likely we take a WR in the third but I like this guy.

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=91136&draftyear=2013&genpos=WR]Ryan Swope | Texas A&M, WR : 2013 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;995680]Not likely we take a WR in the third but I like this guy.

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=91136&draftyear=2013&genpos=WR]Ryan Swope*|*Texas A&M,*WR*:*2013 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url][/quote]

He torched Dee Milliner of Alabama. I've wanted him since I saw him last year with Tannehill. I know this gets thrown around a lot, but if there ever was a 'next wes welker' he's the guy.


If we don't get him, theres Connor Vernon of Duke who has some of the best hands in the draft and is a great smart route runner (think of him as a young Stokely), theres also Marquess Wilson of WSU who left the team because Mike Leach and him were getting into fights (but players in the past have talked about Leach as being an awful coach in terms of going overboard on players) but he was graded to be a first round pick at WR and has some great hands and is a great route runner. Even when defenses knew to stop him, he still was unstoppable.

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[quote=GridIron26;995665]By drafting Robinson will automatically make the offense more potent than ever, but I don't think we should draft him until 5th round or after. If he actually falls down that far then I would be happy with this pick.

Edit: I forgot to add to my point about the offense being potent with Robinson - if he is able to develop his ability to play as WR then we will have lot of mismatch ups with safeties by using motion from RB position to WR[/quote]

My point exactly. As well as establishing himself as a threat to run out of the backfield, thus the defense would have to be ready for a run or pass in his direction causing confusion.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;995650]You cannot over look his combine and even more important his play against Alabama. He was awful in that game, and that is a problem. Out of position many times and couldn't shed a block from NFL level talent.

There are teams out there that will draft him in round one, but it will be a mistake.

He may be a football player but I think he will fail as an NFL elite player or even as a good one.[/quote]

From what I saw against Bama his line was getting pushed back into him. But he missed some tackles. He had a bad game but one game should not erase a long body of work. And I would pay no attention to the combine cause no one is in pads. I think Te'o is a good NFL prospect. Is he Patrick Willis? Probably not.

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[quote=Lotus;995661]You can't blame Manti for his play against Bama. At the time he was grieving for his fake dead girlfriend. Fake grief is distracting.[/quote]

:lol: I can not even imagine the heckling he's going to get in training camp. Where ever he goes I hope that team is featured in Hard Knocks. Now that would really be must watch TV.

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If Robert Alford is there when we pick in the second we need to run to the board to select him. Check out his combine numbers compared to Revis's pro day in 2007:

Revis H: 5 ft 11⅜ in Wt: 204 lb 40: 4.38 s Vert: 38 in Broad Jump: 10 ft 5 in
Alford H: 5 ft 10 in Wt: 188 lb 40: 4.39 s Vert: 40 in Broad Jump: 11 ft

Also Alford's older brother was an NFL player. Legit talent from a small school. David Amerson also is a great talent that needs to considered. His Junior year he killed it and that shouldn't be over looked.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;995782]If Robert Alford is there when we pick in the second we need to run to the board to select him. Check out his combine numbers compared to Revis's pro day in 2007:

Revis H: 5 ft 11⅜ in Wt: 204 lb 40: 4.38 s Vert: 38 in Broad Jump: 10 ft 5 in
Alford H: 5 ft 10 in Wt: 188 lb 40: 4.39 s Vert: 40 in Broad Jump: 11 ft

Also Alford's older brother was an NFL player. Legit talent from a small school. David Amerson also is a great talent that needs to considered. His Junior year he killed it and that shouldn't be over looked.[/quote]

I read that Alford, despite his great combine numbers, has scouts scared by the fact that he reportedly has crohns disease and that he will be 25+ when the season starts.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;995784]I read that Alford, despite his great combine numbers, has scouts scared by the fact that he reportedly has crohns disease and that he will be 25+ when the season starts.[/quote]

Those are legitimate concerns. But if he drops into the middle rounds, he could be a steal.

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Geno Smith to the Eagles?

[url=http://footballsfuture.com/2013/nflmockdraft.html]2013 NFL Mock Draft: Round One[/url]

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I don't get the fascination with Dennard Robinson because he doesn't have a position. He would need to develop skills that other people who have played RB already have.

I agree that we could use some explosive athletes on offense, but I think that Kenjon Barner, Jonathan Franklin, Joseph Randle, and Mike Gillislee would all be better fits as a change of pace back.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;995808][B]I don't get the fascination with Dennard Robinson because he doesn't have a position. He would need to develop skills that other people who have played RB already have. [/B]

I agree that we could use some explosive athletes on offense, but I think that Kenjon Barner, Jonathan Franklin, Joseph Randle, and Mike Gillislee would all be better fits as a change of pace back.[/quote]

I don't get it either. To me he's a 6th or 7th rounder.

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Tayvon Austin please..

[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/28/ryan-swope-people-are-shocked-im-a-white-guy-running-a-4-3/[/url]

I like this guy lol

[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;995807]Geno Smith to the Eagles?

[url=http://footballsfuture.com/2013/nflmockdraft.html]2013 NFL Mock Draft: Round One[/url][/QUOTE]

I hope they do because that guy is a terrible passer.

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[quote=Bucket;995825]Tayvon Austin please..[/quote]

He'll be long gone when we pick.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;995716]He torched Dee Milliner of Alabama. I've wanted him since I saw him last year with Tannehill. I know this gets thrown around a lot, but if there ever was a 'next wes welker' he's the guy.
.[/quote]

Only because they are both white.

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Ryan Swope will be drafted in the 3rd round by the Patriots

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[quote=diehardskin2982;995852]Ryan Swope will be drafted in the 3rd round by the Patriots[/quote]

My bets on the dolphins

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yeah Cult then 3 years later they will send him to the Pats for a 6th round pick lol

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[quote=skinsfaninok;995838]I hope they do because that guy is a terrible passer.[/quote]

Yeah 100 Touchdowns is pretty bad….

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[quote=skinsfaninok;995838]I hope they do because that guy is a terrible passer.[/quote]

You dont know much about Geno then. the knock on Geno isnt his throwing ability, dude has all the tools physically. His footwork needs some work and he tends to sit in the pocket too long instead of taking something available in front of him or rolling out. But his biggest knock is that he's a headcase, if you hit him a few times or get in his head his game goes to complete sh*t.

Accuracy and Arm strength are not the questions surrounding Geno.

Also, just an fyi, its Tavon, not Tayvon.