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RGIII RAISES THE BAR on our concepts of competitiveness and team spirit. I've never seen anything like his hobbling back onto the field, favoring his right leg, to play until he collapsed. He has the ability and the fire to carry the whole team on his shoulders.

Some ten yrs ago a journeyman qb named Jeff George started for the Skins in a nationally televised game. Remember him? During one snap the ball came loose and squirted around, players of both teams diving for it. But not Jeff George. He stepped daintily backwards, his hands half raised as if to say, I can't get my shirt dirty.

Let's appreciate RGIII while we have him. Which I hope is for a long, long time.

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[quote=goat9092;973839]RGIII RAISES THE BAR on our concepts of competitiveness and team spirit. I've never seen anything like his hobbling back onto the field, favoring his right leg, to play until he collapsed. He has the ability and the fire to carry the whole team on his shoulders.

Some ten yrs ago a journeyman qb named Jeff George started for the Skins in a nationally televised game. Remember him? During one snap the ball came loose and squirted around, players of both teams diving for it. But not Jeff George. He stepped daintily backwards, his hands half raised as if to say, I can't get my shirt dirty.

Let's appreciate RGIII while we have him. Which I hope is for a long, long time.[/quote]i've been anticipating this post for over 3 years

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[quote=ForkLifter;973818]Not that anyone should care (and I'm sure everyone loves to hear high school football stories, (and not to reveal anything about who I am)), but when I was playing I had an injury in a scrimmage that was very similar to this. Basically a helmet to the knee, no structural damage. Trainors (not the high school girl ones) looked at it and said it was a "sprain." (no MRIs or x-rays), but I couldn't walk for the rest of the day, then not much the next day. It had me very worried..... But by day three it was much better, and I was back practicing by day 4. Missed no time during the season, which opened about a week later.

I guess my point is that these things happen, and if there is no structural damage the rule of thumb should (or at least for me) be that you play when you feel you can. Just because it hurts or looks bad doesn't mean it is bad.

Of course RGIII is a $100+ million asset (not investment, asset), so I would not expect him back on the field until the Pope says its ok.[/quote]

Hopefully this is how it will go with Griffin. I'm with Matty on this one. If he's cleared to play I play him. We're in the middle of a playoff race. But if there's any sign of limping or restricted mobility, I wouldn't hesitate to put KC in. But I would only do it if Dr. Andrews assured me he was good to go and playing on it would not cause further damage.

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[quote=NC_Skins;973773]People were calling it game over before the fumble. Nobody is calling out these people per say, I just pointed out that many people do it. Can we let this go?...lol Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. :doh:[/quote]

Kinda ironic that you think we made a mountain out of the molehill when you started this mess with a long post quoting 6 Warpath members...

It was your mountain, NC.

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Everyone also wants to blame the coaches for every RG3 run. Yes there are some designed runs, but I think the majority are plays that break down and RG3 is forced to run to try and get a first down. In this case the play broke down and he took off. RG3 himself admitted that he turned inside towards the center of the field and realized his mistake and tried to get down quickly. However had he turned outside he might have been able to run out of bounds or get down cleaner and not take a bad hit. Also the coaches can teach him how to slide but he didn't do that he dove head first for the 1st down.

Also when he got hit in the back was he running or standing in the pocket? I thought he was in the pocket for that nasty hit.

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[quote=53Fan;973841]Hopefully this is how it will go with Griffin. I'm with Matty on this one. If he's cleared to play I play him. We're in the middle of a playoff race. But if there's any sign of limping or restricted mobility, I wouldn't hesitate to put KC in. But I would only do it if Dr. Andrews assured me he was good to go and playing on it would not cause further damage.[/quote]

Put RG3 in a brace that won't allow his knee to hyperextend and give him some lateral stability and play him. Roll him out very little and hopefully no designed run plays for him.

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;973847]Kinda ironic that you think we made a mountain out of the molehill when you started this mess with a long post quoting 6 Warpath members...

It was your [B]mountain[/B], [B]NC[/B].[/quote]association

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Finally got to finish watching the game early this morning. It was our most incredible win thus far...took the whole team. The last time we saw this kind of "teamwork" was 2007 IMO. Everyone has rallied around RG3 IMO.

The pass protection was (marginally) better than what we've seen most of the season too. RG needs to protect himself better. He's too smart not to, if that makes sense.

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;973847]Kinda ironic that you think we made a mountain out of the molehill when you started this mess with a long post quoting 6 Warpath members...

It was your mountain, NC.[/quote]


It would be a mountain if I made some qualifying statement, berated, or somehow made some point to them posting what they did. As it is, I did not. All I did was add to Matty's statement that many people called it "Game Over' before it was over. Nothing more. Nothing less. I didn't create the mountain, many of you butt hurt over god knows what are making this something that it isn't.


EDIT: So this qualifies as a "LONG POST"?

[quote]Quite a few peeps gave up at the end. It is always funny to go back and read the despair once we've won.[/quote]

That is all I said. That's it.

[B][SIZE="7"]LET IT GO!![/SIZE][/B]

Just heard baltimore fired Cameron.

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[quote=punch it in;973861]Just heard baltimore fired Cameron.[/quote]

Good for the Ravens, they were able to run the ball on us but elected to throw it more in the second half even with a lead. I thought if they kept running the ball we would have been in trouble. But good thing they fired him after our game and not before

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Im so in awe of Cobra Kai, It weird absolutely knowing the kicker is going to make a damn fg. Its awesome, as soon as Crawford got tackled i knew that game was over!!! Congrats Cobra, keep sweeping that leg!

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[quote=The Goat;973856]Finally got to finish watching the game early this morning. It was our most incredible win thus far...took the whole team. The last time we saw this kind of "teamwork" was 2007 IMO. Everyone has rallied around RG3 IMO.

The pass protection was (marginally) better than what we've seen most of the season too. RG needs to protect himself better. He's too smart not to, if that makes sense.[/quote]

Glad you finally got to watch it. Pretty amazing huh?

How was my analysis for you last night now that you have seen it Goat?

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Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen

The #Ravens scored 3 TD's on their first 4 drives. They had seven full drives after that. Results: Punt, Fumble, INT, Punt, Punt, TD, Punt.

Really good closing defense.

as for our offense:

Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen

#Redskins' offense: 1st in rushing, 1st in yds/play, 1st in passing yds/play, 3rd in rushing yds/play, 3rd in goal-to-go, 7th in scoring

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[quote=Ruhskins;973790]We have a pass rusher, he's on IR.

As I've mentioned repeatedly, safety is our number one need this offseason. Although not ideal, we could live with our current CBs with good safeties. While I expect a new starter (or two) at CB next season, it won't mean squad if we don't get a starter-caliber FS.[/quote]

Rak is fine but we another horse on the front 7 that can cave in the pocket. I think we're fine at corner. Perhaps we'll get lucky with one or two of the guys that are hurt/suspended, get one more in the draft/FA and then get a better rush. I firmly believe that if you can rush the passer then you can win. The Giants have proved that.

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i expected kerrigan to be of a sack monster than he has been

[QUOTE=los panda;973877]i expected kerrigan to be of a sack monster than he has been[/QUOTE]

I feel like him and Orakpo just use the same move over n over n over again. Im not even sure what i mean but it looks like they just try to straight up bull rush. I would like to see them spin, and do all that fancy nancy stuff you see from the more dynamic ends

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;973872]as for our offense:

Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen

#Redskins' offense: 1st in rushing, 1st in yds/play, 1st in passing yds/play, 3rd in rushing yds/play, 3rd in goal-to-go, 7th in scoring[/quote]


This stat is more important in my opinion. We've left a great deal of points off the board due to our offenses inconsistency at converting 3rd downs and moving the chains.

[B]
Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen

Yes. 3rd downs have been problematic all year. 29th of 32 teams. RT @NC_Skins23 What's that 3rd down conversion percentage? Still horrible? [/B]

Ranking 29th out of 32 teams in 3rd down conversion is pathetic. Makes me mad to no end that this offense is so potent, but stalls out on 3rd downs. What really infuriates me is when I see a option pitch play on 3rd and short. Makes me want to drive to DC to choke Kyle.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;973884]This stat is more important in my opinion. We've left a great deal of points off the board due to our offenses inconsistency at converting 3rd downs and moving the chains.

[B]
Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen

Yes. 3rd downs have been problematic all year. 29th of 32 teams. RT @NC_Skins23 What's that 3rd down conversion percentage? Still horrible? [/B]

Ranking 29th out of 32 teams in 3rd down conversion is pathetic. Makes me mad to no end that this offense is so potent, but stalls out on 3rd downs. What really infuriates me is when I see a option pitch play on 3rd and short. Makes me want to drive to DC to choke Kyle.[/QUOTE]

So your saying game over? Lol
The pitch play on a big third and short is horrible. I count three this year. All failed miserably.

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[quote=punch it in;973882]I feel like him and Orakpo just use the same move over n over n over again. Im not even sure what i mean but it looks like they just try to straight up bull rush. I would like to see them spin, and do all that fancy nancy stuff you see from the more dynamic ends[/quote]he hasn't done it often lately, but it's awesome when kerrigan bull-rushes the o-lineman straight back into the qb. he's done that on occasion, even getting a hand on the ball/hand/arm.

2011 draft is going to go down as the sack class

von miller
aldon smith
jj watt

[QUOTE=los panda;973888]he hasn't done it often lately, but it's awesome when kerrigan bull-rushes the o-lineman straight back into the qb. he's done that on occasion, even getting a hand on the ball/hand/arm.

2011 draft is going to go down as the sack class

von miller
aldon smith
jj watt[/QUOTE]

Sometimes it works. He is incredible with getting his hands on the ball. To your point on lack of sacks though i feel he is one dimensional.

Huh what do you know. Kerrigan coming up as a guest on nfl sirius moving the chains this hour. Maybe ill call in and tell him you are disappointed with his production. :)

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On the one hand, the pitch play frustrates me when all we need is one simple yard and sometimes you need to quit being creative/unpredictable and just execute. On the other hand, if the pitch was completed there was a lot of open field for a big, big gain. And that's what has made Kyle's offense special

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;973896]On the one hand, the pitch play frustrates me when all we need is one simple yard and sometimes you need to quit being creative/unpredictable and just execute. On the other hand, if the pitch was completed there was a lot of open field for a big, big gain. And that's what has made Kyle's offense special[/QUOTE]

Ill take the big picture anyday which is the offense rocks. As long as we are scoring and winning i dont care what the ranking says about third down conversions. It is admittedly odd that our awesome offense seems to struggle on third downs. Do you think this is due to the fact that we are missing Davis and dont really have that posession receiver / te that can move the chains on third and longs?

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I went with Crawford this week. I really think had he not returned the ball that far on the punt, we don't win the game. That run put us immediately in FG range and took the game out of Cousins hands. As a cold-off-the-bench rookie, I'd rather not rely on him to make plays in OT.

I love watching reporters try to ask the same question different ways to MS to try and get more out of him. And it never happens. Has anyone in this forum who's more connected ever been in one of those? It just seems gloriously awkward with Shanny stonewalling everything. Like an episode of the office with Michael Scott.

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[quote=NC_Skins;973884]This stat is more important in my opinion. We've left a great deal of points off the board due to our offenses inconsistency at converting 3rd downs and moving the chains.

[B]
Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen

Yes. 3rd downs have been problematic all year. 29th of 32 teams. RT @NC_Skins23 What's that 3rd down conversion percentage? Still horrible? [/B]

Ranking 29th out of 32 teams in 3rd down conversion is pathetic. Makes me mad to no end that this offense is so potent, but stalls out on 3rd downs. What really infuriates me is when I see a option pitch play on 3rd and short. Makes me want to drive to DC to choke Kyle.[/quote]


NC, you've got problems.

Or you don't read what you write. Or there's something missing.

Probably time to move on and get a life, obviously this is way to much for you. And disagreeing with me makes my case. Have at it.

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Kerrigan has proven he cannot cut it. Teams have been single blocking him and taking him out of the game. Does the same thing every play. I think a 3-4 DE would increase our pass rush. Possibly switch to wade Philips one gap 3-4 and draft a dynamic 3-4 end. We still need a MLB because our run defense is not good and linebackers can't cover tight ends. Pass rush makes your pass defense incredibly better.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/10/shanahan-sounds-optimistic-rg3-will-play-vs-browns-on-sunday/]Shanahan sounds optimistic RG3 will play vs. Browns on Sunday | ProFootballTalk[/url]

[QUOTE=Mattyk;973907][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/10/shanahan-sounds-optimistic-rg3-will-play-vs-browns-on-sunday/]Shanahan sounds optimistic RG3 will play vs. Browns on Sunday | ProFootballTalk[/url][/QUOTE]

Two words:
OH
GOODY!!!!!!!!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;973189]Looking at the replay of RGIII, my guess is he's done for the year. He's so lucky not to have suffered a dislocated knee or compound fracture. That was a nasty hit. I hope I'm wrong, Shanahan should shot for letting him back in the game.[/quote]

Thank you for your insight, Dr. SFREDSKIN.

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If they decreased the width between the uprights by 50%, Cobra Kai would still be perfect.

Phenomenal win. Couldn't be prouder.

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[quote=donofriose;973905]Kerrigan has proven he cannot cut it. Teams have been single blocking him and taking him out of the game. Does the same thing every play. I think a 3-4 DE would increase our pass rush. Possibly switch to wade Philips one gap 3-4 and draft a dynamic 3-4 end. We still need a MLB because our run defense is not good and linebackers can't cover tight ends. Pass rush makes your pass defense incredibly better.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Kerrigan certainly benefits from having Orakpo on the other side, but I have to disagree with the idea that he "cannot cut it". His total tackles are slightly down from last year, but his sack totals will likely be higher. He obviously hasn't had quite the same impact as last season, but that's to be expected when the primary pass rusher is on IR and he has to pick up the slack, basically by himself.

And in spite of the fact that the Redskins were gouged by Ray Rice yesterday, they're still seventh in the league against the run, and giving up less than 100 yards per game. They are by no means, bad against the run. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=Monkeydad;973909]Thank you for your insight, Dr. SFREDSKIN.[/quote]

Don't tell me you didn't think he was toast after that hit? Then he goes in the game and can't continue cause and gets on his knees on the ground. I think it's a miracle that he escaped serious injury.

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[quote=Monkeydad;973909]Thank you for your insight, Dr. SFREDSKIN.[/quote]

Our medical team was hard at work yesterday as you can see.

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[quote=donofriose;973905]Kerrigan has proven he cannot cut it. Teams have been single blocking him and taking him out of the game. Does the same thing every play. I think a 3-4 DE would increase our pass rush. Possibly switch to wade Philips one gap 3-4 and draft a dynamic 3-4 end. We still need a MLB because our run defense is not good and linebackers can't cover tight ends. Pass rush makes your pass defense incredibly better.[/quote]

is this real life?

Kerrigan has been rather good without a consistent pass rushing force on the other side.

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[quote=Swarley;973919]is this real life?

Kerrigan has been rather good without a consistent pass rushing force on the other side.[/quote]

Or without a good NT.

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;3917]Vilma is another very good LB and he could replace Trotter (for those of you who want Trot gone). But, I think Boulware is going to be amazing and it is a shame it is not a position of need.[/QUOTE]

I'll be honest after I saw the hit on replay I was scared he was done for a long time. Thank God he's OK But I really don't see how he plays Sunday

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[quote=NC_Skins;973884]This stat is more important in my opinion. We've left a great deal of points off the board due to our offenses inconsistency at converting 3rd downs and moving the chains.

[B]
Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen

Yes. 3rd downs have been problematic all year. 29th of 32 teams. RT @NC_Skins23 What's that 3rd down conversion percentage? Still horrible? [/B]

Ranking 29th out of 32 teams in 3rd down conversion is pathetic. Makes me mad to no end that this offense is so potent, but stalls out on 3rd downs. What really infuriates me is when I see a option pitch play on 3rd and short. Makes me want to drive to DC to choke Kyle.[/quote]

well, maybe, but we Rank 8th in total 1st downs tied(274) with the Giants, who are only slightly better on 3rd down(16 more made in 10 more attempts).