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CRedskinsRule 08-21-2013 04:45 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
Le'Veon Bell has a LisFranc injury- ESPN says he'll miss atleast 6 weeks. (anyone wanna ask JR how long that takes a 50 yo man to heal?)


[put in 2 threads just cuz']

SirLK26 08-21-2013 05:26 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1019886]Not really, he took us to the playoffs and played really well that year, age just got to him[/quote]

Meh...He was decent in 2005: 57.7%, 3,050 yards, 23 TDs, 10 INTs.

And over his whole time in Washington? 57.9%, 6,033 yards , 38 TDs, 20 INTs. Not too bad, I guess...

CrustyRedskin 08-21-2013 06:47 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
Embarrassing to fine Bostic over that hit. Smh.
Brunells 05 season was one of his best. Double dagger to Moss sparked it.
Cowboys just sign Sean Lee to a six year extension.

HailGreen28 08-21-2013 07:05 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=donofriose;1019837][url=http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/chi-bears-jon-bostic-fine-20130821,0,7640202.story]Bears rookie linebacker Bostic fined $21,000 for hit - chicagotribune.com[/url]

This is a joke. 21,000 for a player who wrapped up, and tried to lead with his shoulder. The other hits they fine for I'm OK with, but to fine a player who wrapped up and made a tackle on a receiver who obviously was not "defenseless" and turned up field is a joke.[/quote]*Throws flag and blows whistle* "PHWEEEEEET!"

"Personal foul. On the defense. Unnecessary toughness. 15 yard penalty. Automatic FIRST DOWN."


(yeah the fact there was no penalty makes the fine worse.)

skinsfaninok 08-21-2013 09:24 PM

It seems like everyone is getting that lisfranc injury. I never even heard of it until a couple seasons ago

CRedskinsRule 08-22-2013 10:43 AM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
A few Chip Kelly tidbits from various tweets:

Zach Berman ‏@ZBerm 33m

Anyone who wants to cite time of poss. this year -- Chip doesn't care about it. "Time of possession is how much time the other team wastes."

Zach Berman ‏@ZBerm 45m

Eagles day off this season under Kelly is Monday. Will practice Tues, Wed, Thurs, Fri, Sat.

Ross Tucker ‏@RossTuckerNFL 2m

Eagles HC Chip Kelly on contrast between tempo/speed of officials in NCAA & NFL: "Zero difference. None."

Another quote that I heard, but have no source to verify (maybe SS or others know the specific, and if my context is wrong please correct me), is [paraphrased]"we looked at on field performance in our evaluations, not the mental approach behind it".

A topic that will surely dominate this season will be Chip Kelly's transition to the NFL. Many are focusing on his offensive scheme, but my question is, and will remain, can he change from dealing with dependent young men to highly paid independent athletes. I think the transitions go far deeper than just the on field product. I will be really surprised, just from my personal opinions, if he lasts in the NFL, but will be intriguing to see how it goes.

Lilman52 08-22-2013 11:53 AM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
The Saints just cut oft injuried OT Jason Smith. Hope he can get on somewhere as a backup. Seemed like he had so much potential.


HTTR!!!

Skinzman 08-22-2013 12:18 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1019941]A few Chip Kelly tidbits from various tweets:

Zach Berman ‏@ZBerm 33m

[B]Anyone who wants to cite time of poss. this year -- Chip doesn't care about it. "Time of possession is how much time the other team wastes."[/B]

Zach Berman ‏@ZBerm 45m

Eagles day off this season under Kelly is Monday. Will practice Tues, Wed, Thurs, Fri, Sat.

Ross Tucker ‏@RossTuckerNFL 2m

Eagles HC Chip Kelly on contrast between tempo/speed of officials in NCAA & NFL: "Zero difference. None."

Another quote that I heard, but have no source to verify (maybe SS or others know the specific, and if my context is wrong please correct me), is [paraphrased]"we looked at on field performance in our evaluations, not the mental approach behind it".

A topic that will surely dominate this season will be Chip Kelly's transition to the NFL. Many are focusing on his offensive scheme, but my question is, and will remain, can he change from dealing with dependent young men to highly paid independent athletes. I think the transitions go far deeper than just the on field product. I will be really surprised, just from my personal opinions, if he lasts in the NFL, but will be intriguing to see how it goes.[/quote]

Spoken like a man that is used to 100 man rosters and being able to convince the best to come to your college as opposed to having drafts where the talent is split more evenly.

Time of possession has a clear affect on your defense. He will also find out that when a team goes out and has a 7 or 8 minute drive with a TV timeout mixed in there plus another for change of possession, that it will affect a precision offense as well. A defense sitting for longer periods helps them, an offense sitting longer periods gets them cold and they can perform worse. Its much more taxing, stamina wise, to play defense.

mredskins 08-22-2013 12:20 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1019941]A few Chip Kelly tidbits from various tweets:

Zach Berman ‏@ZBerm 33m

Anyone who wants to cite time of poss. this year -- Chip doesn't care about it. "Time of possession is how much time the other team wastes."

Zach Berman ‏@ZBerm 45m

Eagles day off this season under Kelly is Monday. Will practice Tues, Wed, Thurs, Fri, Sat.

Ross Tucker ‏@RossTuckerNFL 2m

Eagles HC Chip Kelly on contrast between tempo/speed of officials in NCAA & NFL: "Zero difference. None."

Another quote that I heard, but have no source to verify (maybe SS or others know the specific, and if my context is wrong please correct me), is [paraphrased]"we looked at on field performance in our evaluations, not the mental approach behind it".

A topic that will surely dominate this season will be Chip Kelly's transition to the NFL. Many are focusing on his offensive scheme, but my question is, and will remain, can he change from dealing with dependent young men to highly paid independent athletes. I think the transitions go far deeper than just the on field product. I will be really surprised, just from my personal opinions, if he lasts in the NFL, but will be intriguing to see how it goes.[/quote]

Steve Spurrier II

JoeRedskin 08-22-2013 12:33 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1019941]A few Chip Kelly tidbits from various tweets:

Zach Berman ‏@ZBerm 33m

Anyone who wants to cite time of poss. this year -- Chip doesn't care about it. "Time of possession is how much time the other team wastes."

...

Ross Tucker ‏@RossTuckerNFL 2m

Eagles HC Chip Kelly on contrast between tempo/speed of officials in NCAA & NFL: "Zero difference. None."

Another quote that I heard, but have no source to verify (maybe SS or others know the specific, and if my context is wrong please correct me), is [paraphrased]"we looked at on field performance in our evaluations, not the mental approach behind it".

A topic that will surely dominate this season will be Chip Kelly's transition to the NFL. Many are focusing on his offensive scheme, but my question is, and will remain, can he change from dealing with dependent young men to highly paid independent athletes. I think the transitions go far deeper than just the on field product. I will be really surprised, just from my personal opinions, if he lasts in the NFL, but will be intriguing to see how it goes.[/quote]

I don't watch the college game so I don't know if what he says about the refs is true but I do know that, when asked about the biggest difference between the college game and the pros, the players site the speed of the game almost without fail. As to time of possesion, while true it isn't determinative, it's a pretty good indicator. In the pros, if you can't control the clock when you need to, you will lose more often than you win - much more often.

Kelly clearly is a more detail oriented guy than Spurrier ever was. At the same time, there seems to be a similar disrespect for the difference between the college game and what he will be facing Sept. 9th forward. I am not saying he is doomed, maybe he is in the right place at the right time with his emphasis on an up tempo offense. Based on some of the thngs I have read, I am just skeptical. Part of it, of course, I am hoping he will Spurrierize the Eagles.

dmek25 08-22-2013 01:18 PM

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liking that word you just made up. i am thinking the same thing. spurrier though the NFL would change for him. i get the same feeling from kelly

Lotus 08-22-2013 02:20 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
Vote Ray Guy for the Hall of Fame!

MTK 08-22-2013 02:35 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=Lotus;1019965]Vote Ray Guy for the Hall of Fame![/quote]

He should be the first and only punter to go in. He definitely deserves it.

skinsfan69 08-22-2013 03:12 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
I think Chip Kelly has a good chance to win. The NFL is going to up tempo read option offenses. Just look around the league...Carolina, SF, Seattle, Buffalo, Us and now Philly. I think it's here to stay. OBC didn't care about protecting his QB and only wanted Florida Gators. Not to mention he was miserable cause of the weather.

skinsfan69 08-22-2013 03:15 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=CrustyRedskin;1019900]Embarrassing to fine Bostic over that hit. Smh.
Brunells 05 season was one of his best. Double dagger to Moss sparked it.
Cowboys just sign Sean Lee to a six year extension.[/quote]

The league should be ashamed of themselves for fining Bostic. It's gotten to the point where the refs just throw flags whenever they see a really hard hit. Pathetic.

CrustyRedskin 08-22-2013 04:50 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1019969]I think Chip Kelly has a good chance to win. The NFL is going to up tempo read option offenses. Just look around the league...Carolina, SF, Seattle, Buffalo, Us and now Philly. I think it's here to stay. OBC didn't care about protecting his QB and only wanted Florida Gators. Not to mention he was miserable cause of the weather.[/quote]

As do I. The comparisons to Spurrier to me are a joke. Kelly has probably worked more since 5:00 this morning then Spurrier did in two years.

skinsfaninok 08-22-2013 09:00 PM

Carolina d looking good

JoeRedskin 08-22-2013 09:07 PM

Just how many former Skins kickers are there in the league??

Gano, Cundiff, Suisam, Novak ... am I missing anyone?

Chico23231 08-22-2013 09:15 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
Luke Kuechly is an effing beast

CultBrennan59 08-22-2013 09:26 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1020008]Carolina d looking good[/quote]

Preseason. Wait until the regular season with Atlanta and New Orleans running up the score on them.

CRedskinsRule 08-22-2013 09:27 PM

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1020009]Just how many former Skins kickers are there in the league??

Gano, Cundiff, Suisam, Novak ... am I missing anyone?[/QUOTE]

Go Gano?

budw38 08-22-2013 09:28 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=Chico23231;1020010]Luke Kuechly is an effing beast[/quote]
Man would he look good in Burgundy and gold some day !

CultBrennan59 08-22-2013 09:46 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[url=http://nfl.si.com/2013/08/22/nfl-all-overrated-defense-darnell-dockett/?sct=hp_t1t_a3&eref=sihp]Darnell Dockett, Paul Kruger headline All-Overrated Defense | Audibles - SI.com[/url]

donofriose 08-22-2013 10:08 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;1020015][url=http://nfl.si.com/2013/08/22/nfl-all-overrated-defense-darnell-dockett/?sct=hp_t1t_a3&eref=sihp]Darnell Dockett, Paul Kruger headline All-Overrated Defense | Audibles - SI.com[/url][/quote]

Only two redskins players named... means the defense is improving.

London is basically Ray Lewis for the Skins now.

CRedskinsRule 08-22-2013 10:24 PM

Time to check if Panthers D/St is still available in your FF league :D

RedskinRat 08-22-2013 10:25 PM

Just happy to see the Ravens get handled.

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JoeRedskin 08-22-2013 11:05 PM

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1020017]Time to check if Panthers D/St is still available in your FF league :D[/QUOTE]

Well, now it's not. :D

Dumped Baltimore for them.

FRPLG 08-23-2013 12:33 AM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1020009]Just how many former Skins kickers are there in the league??

Gano, Cundiff, Suisam, Novak ... am I missing anyone?[/quote]

Akers

CrustyRedskin 08-23-2013 09:18 AM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
So bye bye Miss American pie........

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--tim-tebow-s-days-with-pats-may-be-coming-to-end--gets-no-playing-vs--lions-043959425.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]

ArtMonkDrillz 08-23-2013 09:46 AM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
Oh great, I hope the Bucs cover their whole damn stadium in Purell before next Friday: [url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tampa-bay-buccaneers-sanitize-facility-rid-mrsa-serious-212529664.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]
I don't want any of the Skins getting MRSA.

NC_Skins 08-23-2013 09:50 AM

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[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/sports/football/nfl-pressure-said-to-prompt-espn-to-quit-film-project.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&[/url]


This is bullshit, but not new. Big corporations bullying media. It's a article about the NFL pressuring ESPN not to run a particular special on head injuries.

JoeRedskin 08-23-2013 10:01 AM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=FRPLG;1020023]Akers[/quote]

Yeah, I thought he had been with us but wasn't sure.

Monkeydad 08-23-2013 11:09 AM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=mredskins;1019959]Steve Spurrier II[/quote]



[I]Eagles HC Chip Kelly on contrast between tempo/speed of officials in NCAA & NFL: "Zero difference. None."
[/I]



Yes, this man will fail miserably. He'll find himself in over his head...outmatched by other head coaches and as an added bonus, he'll get the already injury-prone Mike Vick severely injured...and then Nick Foles.

He thinks he can come into the NFL and run his college offense just as successfully as he did in the Pac-12. I applaud the optimism and self-confidence, but he's coming off as arrogant and looking unprepared. Week 1 is going to be a lot different than the preseason.

Steve Spurrier went undefeated and we scored the most points in the preseason. Once the real games started, his career stepped into quicksand.

FRPLG 08-23-2013 11:10 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1020027][url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/sports/football/nfl-pressure-said-to-prompt-espn-to-quit-film-project.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&[/url]


This is totally [B]understandable[/B]. Big [B]media partner upset with other media partner and them working it out[/B]. It's an article about the NFL pressuring [B](their good friend and benefactor) [/B]ESPN not to run a particular special on head injuries.[/quote]

I fixed that for you. ESPN is not an unbiased media group.

SirLK26 08-23-2013 12:09 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000233090/article/felix-jones-traded-to-pittsburgh-steelers-by-eagles]Felix Jones traded to Pittsburgh Steelers by Eagles - NFL.com[/url]

Nice move by the Steelers to grab an ex-Cowboy.


Also, it was hilarious that the Lions destroyed the Patriots; 40-9. Reggie Bush looked really good, although they're using him a bit too much, in my opinion.

skinsfaninok 08-23-2013 09:23 PM

Russell Wilson not looking invincible tonight

donofriose 08-23-2013 09:58 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
I feel like the refs are calling more penalties this preseason then the usual game last season. Might just be an experiment for the refs and players getting used to playing again but the amount of penalties are making these games difficult to watch.

Also watching Aaron Rogers, he has the best arm talent in the NFL but I am noticing he does not have the pocket presence Manning, Brady, and Brees all have.

The Seattle Oline has been getting owned this game. Just like the Patriots Oline yesterday.

JGisLordOfTheRings 08-23-2013 10:20 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=donofriose;1020120]I feel like the refs are calling more penalties this preseason then the usual game last season. Might just be an experiment for the refs and players getting used to playing again but the amount of penalties are making these games difficult to watch.

Also watching Aaron Rogers, he has the best arm talent in the NFL but I am noticing he does not have the pocket presence Manning, Brady, and Brees all have.

[B]The Seattle Oline has been getting owned this game. Just like the Patriots Oline yesterday[/B].[/quote]

This. And man is Brady Quinn trash. Not a terrible arm at time but no awareness, nothing.

CRedskinsRule 08-24-2013 08:54 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
Hilarious!!

Rich Eisen ‏@richeisen 8m
So, he's still the starter then? RT @MMehtaNYDN: Geno Smith's first-half stats: 11 for 25, 134 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT, a 34.8 QB rating.

Chico23231 08-24-2013 08:58 PM

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1020340]Hilarious!!

Rich Eisen ‏@richeisen 8m
So, he's still the starter then? RT @MMehtaNYDN: Geno Smith's first-half stats: 11 for 25, 134 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT, a 34.8 QB rating.[/quote]

F@ck geno smith. He s a f$ckin bitch


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