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[quote=tc2deuce;1060667]O-Line---Michael Oher/Alex Mack/Wade Smith ?[/quote]

Alex Mack is a great player but if he were to become a UFA he would cost about eleventy bazillion dollars to sign. Highly unlikely for us, I would think.

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Has anyone been given the franchise tag yet?

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1060670]You know what? You are refutable. Riley is a good player and he's getting better.

I wouldn't mind picking up Jackson, though.[/quote]


giving Riley $5-$7 million per year is crazy, you might get the same production from Kenan Robinson, or a rookie....and it would cost 10% as much as Riley would make

Save the money for O-lineman.... Mack, Collins, Asmoah, Colon, etc.


[B]Update: [/B][B][COLOR="Red"]The Redskins are one of 7 teams to contact D. Jackson[/COLOR][/B]

[QUOTE=Monkeydad;1060625]Sure, let him try out. You can't deny his work ethic.



I doubt he'd make it but hey, let him prove he's done.[/QUOTE]


Ive never been a TO hater, but I dont want this guy anywhere around camp or our new head coach just because of the media circus that would follow him. We need ZERO distractions from now until week one.

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[quote=Mattyk;1060672]Don't get it either.

People preach about developing our own talent, but then always have their eyes on everyone else's talent.

Doesn't make much sense to me to let a 25 year old LB who has played well in our system walk.[/quote]

Particularly when the other ILB spot ALREADY needs to be filled. So let's pay for guys who are either going to be (1) overpriced by market demand; (2) short term cheaper older guys on the downside of their career and who are unfamiliar with our system; or (3) unwanted younger guys of questionable talent who are also unfamiliar with our system - IN BOTH ILB SPOTS.

That's sounds like an excellent plan.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1060680]giving Riley $5-$7 million per year is crazy, you might get the same production from Kenan Robinson, or a rookie....and it would cost 10% as much as Riley would make

Save the money for O-lineman.... Mack, Collins, Asmoah, Colon, etc.


[B]Update: [/B][B][COLOR="Red"]The Redskins are one of 7 teams to contact D. Jackson[/COLOR][/B][/quote]

Who says that Riley is FOR SURE getting $7 mil.?

And you can't get the same production from Robinson that you get from Riley until Robinson actually sees the field. At this point there is no reason to believe that Robinson is not made of glass.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1060678]Has anyone been given the franchise tag yet?[/quote]


Not yet.


[quote=punch it in;1060681]Ive never been a TO hater, but I dont want this guy anywhere around camp or our new head coach just because of the media circus that would follow him. We need ZERO distractions from now until week one.[/quote]


Pretty much this. Fuck TO.

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[B]@HTTR24_7
@TheIrishJihad Can't pay a good player elite money period. It messes up your whole salary cap structure.[/B]


This is my whole deal with paying Orakpo elite money. I'd rather him walk.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1060680]giving Riley $5-$7 million per year is crazy, you might get the same production from Kenan Robinson, or a rookie....and it would cost 10% as much as Riley would make

Save the money for O-lineman.... Mack, Collins, Asmoah, Colon, etc.


[B]Update: [/B][B][COLOR="Red"]The Redskins are one of 7 teams to contact D. Jackson[/COLOR][/B][/quote]

How do u know we have contacted Jackson ? Do u have a link?

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[quote=Chico23231;1060687]How do u know we have contacted Jackson ? Do u have a link?[/quote]

a reputable tweet, I cannot remember who

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I saw him at a Cinnabon in Tysons Corners.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1060691]a reputable tweet, I cannot remember who[/quote]

If we got Riley and Jackson at ilb that would be outstanding. Jackson would be a really good signing. Cleveland is just really baffling this offseason.

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I'd scoop up Jackson in a second. It's one of those moves that would work out GREAT for another NFCE team. WE need that.

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They say that Jackson and the Browns broke up amicably after a salary reduction effort was rejected. Therefore perhaps Jackson will want $$. But he would look good in the b&g.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1060692]I saw him at a Cinnabon in Tysons Corners.[/quote]

Frickin' LOL.

Well, JG certainly knows Jackson's strengths and weaknesses having gameplanned for him twice a season. It would be interesting to hear the conversations between Haslett, JG and BA about how hard they should pursue him. Riley, Jackson Barnett(is he still on our roster) and a rookie might be a nice ilb group.

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Do we resign Rob Jackson now that Orakpo seems hopeless? Looks we are not going to tag him and talks seem to be not in the same ball park.

I hope he goes to Dallas. Lol

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[quote=Bucket;1060711]Do we resign Rob Jackson now that Orakpo seems hopeless? Looks we are not going to tag him and talks seem to be not in the same ball park.

I hope he goes to Dallas. Lol[/quote]I'd like to re-sign Rak. Just not above several mil and 4 mil guaranteed. [URL="http://overthecap.com/top-player-salaries.php?Position=34OLB"]Look at these guys contracts.[/URL] LOL Cowpukes, though I guess Spencer's in the last year of his typically backloaded contract?

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Free agency hasn't even started and all is lost with Rak?

Can't blame him for wanting to test the market and see what's out there.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1060715]I'd like to re-sign Rak. Just not above several mil and 4 mil guaranteed.[/quote]

That type of contract will never happen because those numbers don't begin to approach his market value. You should just simply say that you would let him walk.

We'll see what happens. If the Skins let Orakpo walk, I think they should keep an eye on DeMarcus Ware's situation. If he's healthy enough, he might still have some gas in the tank.

That said, I just don't know what the Skins braintrust is thinking about the upcoming season. Are they going to try to win or are they rebuilding? Are they only going after younger players? DeMarcus Ware might not be a consideration for the Skins depending on their strategy.

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Rumor is that we're going to go after Mike Mitchell to play FS.


Riley Cooper is expected to sign a 3/4 year deal to stay in Philly and they want to offer Maclin a 1-year deal to keep him too.

I bet Maclin could get a longer deal elsewhere, will be interesting to see if he accepts.

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anyone who only wants to keep rak at 6mill or less per year doesn't actually want to keep him. he's going to get money.

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[quote=That Guy;1060736]anyone who only wants to keep rak at 6mill or less per year doesn't actually want to keep him. he's going to get money.[/quote]

Yes and anyone that wants to give him 10 million per year can have him.

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... and who are you replacing him with? Rob Jackson? I like the guy, but he also wants starter money [I]and[/I] if you think he approaches skillset or brings to the team what Rak does ... well someone cue the Tinkerbell meme. He may come cheaper, but not dirt cheap AND there is the old adage "you get what you pay for." You want a cheap fix for a top 10 OLB - that's what you get.

But hey, let's let Riley go 'cause (maybe) he wants a little more than market. Let's let Rak go b/c he wants market price.

Replacing 3/4's of our LB'ers? Priceless.

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Rather overpay Rak than Riley by a good mile

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This is a 25-30 rank defense, we need alot of players. There are alot of upgrades in free agency that aren't big names. Spend alot of cap money to resign our own, and where does that get us? Need to bring in guys to compete, and not overpay guys that aren't making an impact.

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MD's brother is off the market.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10525168/philadelphia-eagles-give-riley-cooper-jason-kelce-new-contracts]Philadelphia Eagles give Riley Cooper, Jason Kelce new contracts - ESPN[/url]

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins]Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

Keim talking about Jackson in DC. I certainly think we are interested, looks like DJ already has a meeting set up with a team today.

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Sadly the Eagles are smart in taking care of their own. I hope that we follow suit with Rak and Riley.

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Maybe there looking at Jasom Worilds from the steelers.

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[quote=Chico23231;1060744][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins]Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

Keim talking about Jackson in DC. I certainly think we are interested, looks like DJ already has a meeting set up with a team today.[/quote]

As Keim says I’d be surprised if the Redskins aren’t interested. Just makes sense given the connection with our new LB coach and our need at ILB.

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[quote=Chico23231;1060744][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins]Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

Keim talking about Jackson in DC. I certainly think we are interested, looks like DJ already has a meeting set up with a team today.[/quote]

His agent has a lot of clients on the team, maybe they'll have some influence?

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Really couldnt think of a better guy to come in and take London's place. Same position, a strong leader, and a guy who is productive. Folks, Jackson is near the top of my FA list.

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[quote=mredskins;1060743]MD's brother is off the market.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10525168/philadelphia-eagles-give-riley-cooper-jason-kelce-new-contracts]Philadelphia Eagles give Riley Cooper, Jason Kelce new contracts - ESPN[/url][/quote]



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^He's obsessed with me! I'm married, man.


[quote=NYCskinfan82;1060746]Maybe there looking at Jasom Worilds from the steelers.[/quote]

If Keim knows anything, we are.

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i think i agree, if rak wants 10+mill per, maybe letting him walk would be a better move... or franchise him and see what he can do this season. part of the issue is he's a top dog in this year's pass rush market, and the perception of how good he is nationally is probably higher than what we've seen locally. if next year is a softer market, we can get a cheaper deal, and we also buy a year to try and talk him into something reasonable.

apparently he wants 12-13mill/per, which is... no thanks.

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Baker is back!

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With the cap going up to 130-132 million, I have no problem paying a top OLB his money. Plus we need the dude.

Let's get our eat defensive player locked up long term and worry about the rest later.

Think about it like this: if in three years out top paid players are III, Trent Williams, and Rak then we are doing things right.

[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;1060799]With the cap going up to 130-132 million, I have no problem paying a top OLB his money. Plus we need the dude.

Let's get our eat defensive player locked up long term and worry about the rest later.

Think about it like this: [b]if in three years out top paid players are III, Trent Williams, and Rak then we are doing things right.[/b][/QUOTE]

Agreed - that would be the model.

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Cap is going to be $133M now, get er done with Rak.

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[quote=Mattyk;1060808]Cap is going to be $133M now, get er done with Rak.[/quote]


Not at 12-13mil/yr.