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MTK 11-16-2015 10:32 AM

Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Our cap situation is ideal, I don't see KC being a problem when it comes to contract time.

Skinzman 11-16-2015 10:32 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=over the mountain;1128858]Guys, Kirk is not getting a RW contract. Skinzwin has been debbie downer on Cousins throughout this thread and is now just throwing something out there without any basis ..

I assume with Scot and Bruce, he will get paid but not over paid. He will get paid his worth. He still has 7 or so more games to add or decease his worth.

having to extend your starting QB is a good problem to have.

laissez les bon temp roulez[/quote]

If calling him average is being a debbie downer, then sure. Remember the whole Some great games... some good games... some bad games... You are claiming him as the next great QB, why say the next great QB is worth nothing?

Ruhskins 11-16-2015 10:57 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1128842]Okay, to be clear, I am liking KC a lot more than a month ago. He has had three solid games without a clunker (so expect a 4 INT day against the Panthers ;) ).

However, when it comes to contracts, to start saying he will - or should - get a Russell Wilson or Cam Newton contract is ridiculous. RW has a Superbowl ring. Cam had been a four year starter. KC has been neither of those. He is a guy who may be on the verge of being a very good QB. He still has the season to go.

If he continues to play like he has in these last three games over the rest of the season, he will get a solid, short term contract (three years real terms - maybe two). It would be ludicrous to sign him to a budget busting contract based on less than one year of consistent good play as a starter. His big contract will be his [I]next[/I] contract if he continues to play with consistency.

He will be a tough sign but I am pretty sure, if he performs well, he gets resigned for a nice but not brutal contract.[/quote]

QBs are overpaid in this league nowadays. But I agree, I don't think Cousins contract should come anywhere near what Cam or Wilson got. I really don't think the Skins should have a problem being able to sign him to a long term.

Defensewins 11-16-2015 11:14 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Me thinks Skinzman is wrong. The teams that are desperate for a QB' and would over pay are terrible. KC is just now tasting a little bit of success on a young team that is on the up turn. With a coach and GM that are starting look good as well. He would be committing career suicide to leave a decent team team for desperate shitty team. For money? Winning cures everything.....including getting paid. Ask Wilson.
Plus learning a new system with a new coach on a struggling team is not a good choice.

NoCalHail 11-16-2015 11:18 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
After a game like yesterday it is hard to attempt to temper the enthusiasm/mood, but what I found interesting was that a lot of the plays that most other weeks yielded little to nothing, suddenly worked for huge gains and TDs.

The Saints defense is not just bad, it is downright awful. When was the last time our offense was successfully executing screen passes, let alone executing a 70+ TD screen pass. Now with that said, Cousins and the offense still get ultimate credit for pouncing on a lesser defense and putting them through the ringer. It was impressive regardless. In year's past I could have totally seen this game being a 24-14 win rather than the absolute drubbing we handed them.

But I think when you look at the offense itself the biggest difference yesterday was that plays that normally didn't yield much, produced a ton. Was it more an execution issue? Or was it a horrible defense? Probably a bit of both.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/21500/redskins-qb-kirk-cousins-spectacular-day-occurred-by-doing-the-ordinary]Redskins QB Kirk Cousins' spectacular day occurred by doing the ordinary - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

[QUOTE]ANDOVER, Md. -- Nothing fancy occurred. No jaw-dropping throws or big-time runs or plays that will make highlight reels. That’s not what the Washington Redskins needed anyway. Ever since training camp opened the Redskins’ coaches wanted one thing from the quarterback: Get the ball to guys who can make plays.

They didn’t need the spectacular. They just needed the ordinary. So that’s what Kirk Cousins delivered and it led to one thing that was eye-opening: His statistics. Cousins completed 20-of-25 passes for 324 yards, four touchdowns and no interceptions in Washington’s 47-14 win over New Orleans Sunday.[/QUOTE]

I think the article makes a valid point. Against that Saints defense the ordinary was way more than enough. Short passes into the hands of the play makers is all it took. The Saints did little to nothing to force our offense to alter their plan. I don't think that is going to happen most weeks.

30gut 11-16-2015 11:27 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
We knew going into the game that the Saints defense is incredibad.

Doing well against them was the expectation.

Irrefutable 11-16-2015 11:31 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1128870]QBs are overpaid in this league nowadays. But I agree, I don't think Cousins contract should come anywhere near what Cam or Wilson got. I really don't think the Skins should have a problem being able to sign him to a long term.[/quote]


Ryan Tannehill got 4 years $77 million. Kirk is not going to be cheap. And does he want to stay in Washington ?

Chico23231 11-16-2015 11:40 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1128879]Ryan Tannehill got 4 years $77 million. Kirk is not going to be cheap. And does he want to stay in Washington ?[/quote]

Only 2 places I could see as a "threat" to leave to would be the Saints or the Broncos where both QB would be retiring. Maybe the Jets?

Why wouldn't want to stay in the place that drafted him and gave him a chance to be "the guy"? Remember, nobody really tried to trade for him.

McC has been in Cousins corner and its his call.

Alvin Walton 11-16-2015 11:46 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1128879]Ryan Tannehill got 4 years $77 million. Kirk is not going to be cheap. And does he want to stay in Washington ?[/quote]

Yes he'll stay in Washington.
He loves it there.
He wont be greedy, his contract will work for him and Washington.
Cousins is an easy going church boy.

KI Skins Fan 11-16-2015 11:55 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=30gut;1128878]We knew going into the game that the Saints defense is incredibad.

Doing well against them was the expectation.[/quote]

Yeah, Kirk simply met expectations against NO. Is that right?

So Kirk having a [U]perfect[/U] QB rating against the Saints wasn't anything special to you?

You and others here just can't stand to give him the credit he deserves when he plays well. Every time he plays well you have some bullshit reason why it doesn't really count. I can hardly wait to see what you come up with to damn him with faint praise when he wins the NFC Player of the Week award for the second time this season for his play versus the Saints.

NoCalHail 11-16-2015 12:00 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Another thing to consider though is Gruden's offense fits Cousins skillset well. While I could see more downfield passing added in once we end up replacing Jackson with another deep threat or find a way to get a stud WR in here, the WCO itself is not based on a deep vertical passing game. Some coordinators have modified it in the past like the way Andy Reid ran it in Philly with McNabb.

There is a chance Kirk gets signed to another team, asking him to run a different offense and he fails or regresses.

Honestly right now if you asked me, I'd assume that Cousins & Gruden's fates are sort of tied together for the time being. They either stay or go together.

NoCalHail 11-16-2015 12:05 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1128887]Yeah, Kirk simply met expectations against NO. Is that right?

So Kirk having a [U]perfect[/U] QB rating against the Saints wasn't anything special to you?

You and others here just can't stand to give him the credit he deserves when he plays well. Every time he plays well you have some bullshit reason why it doesn't really count. I can hardly wait to see what you come up with to damn him with faint praise when he wins the NFC Player of the Week award for the second time this season for his play versus the Saints.[/quote]

I can't speak for others, but that wasn't in any way the point I was trying to make. Kirk had a tremendous game. In no way did he simply do "what was expected" in my eyes. He balled out big time and was a general on the field yesterday.

My only point I was trying to make was that the offense itself as far as the style and plays we ran looked familiar, it was pretty par for the course as far as the play-calling itself. The team just happened to execute a hell of a lot better than usual, and for the entire game.

Furthermore when they go back up against a better defense (this coming up game vs. Carolina for example) that could go back to stopping or at least minimizing a lot of the stuff that seemed to work so easily and flawlessly against New Orleans, then I think it will be fair to bring up a lot of the questions previously asked about Cousins and the offense itself.

SFREDSKIN 11-16-2015 12:13 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Kirk struggled earlier in the season which I mainly attribute to his old man being diagnosed with cancer, that can be a major distraction to any human being.

Defensewins 11-16-2015 12:31 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=NoCalHail;1128889]I can't speak for others, but that wasn't in any way the point I was trying to make. Kirk had a tremendous game. In no way did he simply do "what was expected" in my eyes. He balled out big time and was a general on the field yesterday.

My only point I was trying to make was that the offense itself as far as the style and plays we ran looked familiar, it was pretty par for the course as far as the play-calling itself. The team just happened to execute a hell of a lot better than usual, and for the entire game.

Furthermore when they go back up against a better defense (this coming up game vs. Carolina for example) that could go back to stopping or at least minimizing a lot of the stuff that seemed to work so easily and flawlessly against New Orleans, then I think it will be fair to bring up a lot of the questions previously asked about Cousins and the offense itself.[/quote]

On a week where Peyton Manning was terrible. Where A. Rodgers lost to 2-7 Detroit. Where Drew Brees only managed 14 points against an average defense. Where Tom Brady barely beat a terrible Giants secondary. You expect KC to be perfect every game against great defenses? If the best QB's can not win against below average defenses, but yet YOU require KC to beat the best, I think you are not being realistic. Not sure what world you live in?

CRedskinsRule 11-16-2015 01:05 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
I think it's fair to temper Kirk's week with recognition that the Saints defense was truly inept. It's also reasonable to say that he still had a perfect QBR. That's a special feat in the NFL. I am optimistically looking towards the next 7 games, but the next two weeks will go a long way to determining KC's fate.

IF our offense can be productive against Carolina, and he doesn't throw all his make up INT's against the NYG, then he should be given an extension, or new contract (I know where they can get 16M with a stroke of a pen ;) ). No need to get into a FA frenzy if he shows he is the guy.

That said, I absolutely trust the Skins right now when it comes to making solid contracts for the guys that they want to keep. If he is the Skins' guy for the next 3 years, they will lock him up properly.

NoCalHail 11-16-2015 01:05 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=Defensewins;1128893]On a week where Peyton Manning was terrible. Where A. Rodgers lost to 2-7 Detroit. Where Drew Brees only managed 14 points against an average defense. Where Tom Brady barely beat a terrible Giants secondary. You expect KC to be perfect every game against great defenses? If the best QB's can not win against below average defenses, but yet YOU require KC to beat the best, I think you are not being realistic. Not sure what world you live in?[/quote]

I don't require him to do anything. My point is that he is still developing into what he will be whatever it ends up being. His worst games don't define him nor do his best games at this point. No single game defines the QB Kirk Cousins is.

Where in my statement did I in any way shape or form say I expected him to be beat the best?

All I did in my analysis is point out that our offense yesterday largely looked the same as it has all season with the exception that the execution was on a an entire other level, everything clicked. No one was taken out of their comfort zone, adjustments were likely not forced to be made on a large part because the game was not dictating the need for it. Did our offense suddenly turn a corner? Was there something about it that was missing before? Or did playing an awful defense help out some? I said it was probably a little bit of both.


For the record, I think Cousins can lead the team to a victory over Carolina. I think it will be an ugly game, one in which he may very well have to overcome a mistake or two

KI Skins Fan 11-16-2015 02:54 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=NoCalHail;1128889]I can't speak for others, but that wasn't in any way the point I was trying to make. Kirk had a tremendous game. In no way did he simply do "what was expected" in my eyes. He balled out big time and was a general on the field yesterday.

My only point I was trying to make was that the offense itself as far as the style and plays we ran looked familiar, it was pretty par for the course as far as the play-calling itself. The team just happened to execute a hell of a lot better than usual, and for the entire game.

Furthermore when they go back up against a better defense (this coming up game vs. Carolina for example) that could go back to stopping or at least minimizing a lot of the stuff that seemed to work so easily and flawlessly against New Orleans, then I think it will be fair to bring up a lot of the questions previously asked about Cousins and the offense itself.[/quote]

I was mostly annoyed by the way 30gut dismissed Kirk's outstanding performance against NO.

As for your comments, what if Kirk plays well against Carolina and we beat an undefeated team? Do you think you might be ready to jump on the KC bandwagon at that time?

Brody81 11-16-2015 02:58 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2015/11/16/kirk-cousins-is-playing-his-way-to-a-big-raise-this-offseason/[/url]

NoCalHail 11-16-2015 03:12 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1128916]I was mostly annoyed by the way 30gut dismissed Kirk's outstanding performance against NO.

As for your comments, what if Kirk plays well against Carolina and we beat an undefeated team? Do you think you might be ready to jump on the KC bandwagon at that time?[/quote]

If by "bandwagon" you mean I want him to succeed and be "the guy" then yes. It's never been any other way. I've always just been skeptical or anointing him too early, too soon.

Maybe it has been the way the franchise's recent (20 years and counting now?) QB situation. I've experienced watching so many young QB's who have had up and downs and we all desperately tried to see the good only in them in hopes of them eventually developing into a franchise QB.

I am definitely ready to admit that as of right now Cousins looks better than anything I've ever seen out of guys like Campbell, Ramsey, Shuler, Frerotte etc etc etc etc.....(no need to name the entire list).

I like what I see from Cousins right now, I think for me it's always been more of a "wait and see" wanting to get a more complete picture of what kind of QB Cousins is before the organization commits real money and investment into him.

Hog1 11-16-2015 03:34 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Well, how many people on this forum and no doubt throughout the fan base have doubted KC's ability to fill this role (myself included)? He is definitely making some changes in that thinking with his performance of late.....

NoCalHail 11-16-2015 04:02 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Oh I agree he is taking steps no doubt, however I am just saying that the jury is not out totally.

I think what also adds to severity of the situation is that he is about to be a free agent so there is pressure to make that call on him sooner than later. The decision right or wrong is going to have to be made soon.

30gut 11-16-2015 04:25 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1128887]...You and others here just can't stand to give him the credit he deserves when he plays well. Every time he plays well you have some bullshit reason why it doesn't really count. I can hardly wait to see what you come up with to damn him with faint praise when he wins the NFC Player of the Week award for the second time this season for his play versus the Saints.[/quote]Yawn.

You know what's bullshit? Your post. Really; it is.

Your ultra aggressive sensitivity about Kirk is tiresome.

Using rhetorical questions to create strawmen arguments is tiresome, when you can clearly read my statements from the quote.
[quote=30gut;1128878]We knew going into the game that the Saints defense is incredibad.

Doing well against them was the expectation.[/quote]
The Saints defense is terrible. That is a fact. By any metric by any standard by any measure.

If you have ANY faith in Kirk or in Jay/McVay or in the offense you should expect them to play well against the worst defense in the NFL. I even picked up Kirk in a couple of Fan Duel match-ups. And was rewarded and pleased because, again the expectation was that Kirk, Jay and offense should play well.

If you're this bent out of shape by stating that playing well was the expectation....maybe its you that lacks belief not me?

Also, as per usual, you complete disregard my actual position and instead substitute whatever strawman is convenient.

Here is my actual position and statement on Kirk, and they haven't changed and aren't subject to game to game swings.


[quote=30gut;1127493]Overall my position of Kirk hasn't changed. You'll get some good, some bad, some awesome and some terrible.

What we all want is consistency especially when its comes to decision making and accuracy.

Kirk is becoming the QB he's going to be. He still has time to show consistent accuracy and decision making we are looking for...or not.[/quote]

Hmmmmm doesn't quite fit your characterization huh?

Cheers.

Chico23231 11-16-2015 04:35 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Cousins been really good at home...needs to play much better on the road. That goes for Jay too.

WillH 11-16-2015 04:36 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=NoCalHail;1128932]Oh I agree he is taking steps no doubt, however I am just saying that the jury is not out totally.

I think what also adds to severity of the situation is that he is about to be a free agent so there is pressure to make that call on him sooner than later. The decision right or wrong is going to have to be made soon.[/quote]

I agree that Cousin's still has not proven that he is a long term solution, but for at least the next 2 years, he is likely the best option. I think we need to sign him before his value gets too inflated. If he isn't asking for a top 10 contract, I'd sign him today. We still have a lot of needs on this team before we take a shot at an elite talent QB coming out of college, and who else is there? If he doesn't pan out after another 2 years, hopefully the rest of the team is good enough for a young talented QB to come in an excell. I don't think there is really much to consider at this point. He may always be the hot and cold QB he is now, and hell, he may even regress, but that won't mean it was the wrong decision.


Does anyone know if they are in contact talks at all right now, what the skins are offering, and what Cousins is asking for?

JoeRedskin 11-16-2015 06:13 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Clearly, Kirk's pending free agency is a topic of discussion amongst those who matter in such issues.

[quote]John Keim, ESPN Staff Writer
Redskins coach Jay Gruden says of Kirk Cousins' pending free agency: "Kirk is a guy you'd like to keep around, no doubt. That's up to Scot (McCloughan), Kirk's agent and Kirk."[/quote]

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/wsh]Washington Redskins Football - Redskins News, Scores, Stats, Rumors & More - ESPN[/url]

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/21536/redskins-coach-jay-gruden-on-kirk-cousins-like-to-keep-him-around]Washington Redskins' Jay Gruden: Like to keep Kirk Cousins around - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

MTK 11-16-2015 06:17 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Good stuff right here

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/21514/fathers-surprise-trip-ends-with-memorable-game-for-kirk-cousins-redskins]Father's surprise trip ends with great game for Cousins, Redskins - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

rocnrik 11-16-2015 06:24 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Bottom line is for some fans Cousins will never be the guy..they want some flashy name player..cousins is pretty vanilla and probably won't be voted to pro bowl every year and you won't see him in a bunch of tv commercials..that is fine with me!! So to the cousin doubters..keep on doubting..I will keep on cheering!! and for what it is worth the game this weekend will be very hard for the Redskins to win..the panthers from top to bottom are better than skins ..but mark my words if we lose it will be all blamed on Cousins. I think we have a chance only if the D can play great and the Running game is on..if we try and win on kirks back alone ..aint gonna happen.

NoCalHail 11-16-2015 06:49 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Cooley seems convinced that there could be talks going on right now for an extension and that it is going to happen before the season is over.

If Cousins is willing to do a 1-2 year extension right now, I would say go for it. The problem, or should I say dilemma materializes if he holds out on signing anything and ends up finishing the with a really strong season and then another team out there is willing to commit to him long term.

SFREDSKIN 11-16-2015 07:52 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=NoCalHail;1128951]Cooley seems convinced that there could be talks going on right now for an extension and that it is going to happen before the season is over.

If Cousins is willing to do a 1-2 year extension right now, I would say go for it. The problem, or should I say dilemma materializes if he holds out on signing anything and ends up finishing the with a really strong season and then another team out there is willing to commit to him long term.[/quote]

Cousins is a classy guy and knows he has a good thing going on in Washington, he would give the Redskins a chance to negotiate first.

Irrefutable 11-16-2015 08:06 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=NoCalHail;1128951]Cooley seems convinced that there could be talks going on right now for an extension and that it is going to happen before the season is over.

If Cousins is willing to do a 1-2 year extension right now, I would say go for it. The problem, or should I say dilemma materializes if he holds out on signing anything and ends up finishing the with a really strong season and then another team out there is willing to commit to him long term.[/quote]

there is no chance Cousins signs a 1 or 2 year extension. His contract will be 4 years minimum .... barring the very long shot franchise tag.

DYoungJelly 11-16-2015 08:29 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=NoCalHail;1128951]The problem, or should I say dilemma materializes if he holds out on signing anything and ends up finishing the with a really strong season and then another team out there is willing to commit to him long term.[/quote]

Half the teams in the league would offer him real money tonight.

If he isn't the QB here next year, then who should we start from scratch with?

ethat001 11-17-2015 12:05 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1128938]Cousins been really good at home...needs to play much better on the road. That goes for Jay too.[/quote]

Teams we played on road were better than the ones we played at home. Don't think the home vs. away difference is a big deal, will play out over time.

skinsfanthru&thru 11-17-2015 01:32 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
This was straight up a great team win. Everyone did their job and the mistakes were minimal which isn't something we as Skins fans are accustomed to. When this team is on, it's fun to watch, the catch is it's primarily been against low caliber teams. With that being said I am solidly confident the team could surprise some people and take down the Panthers next week and then have the team in firm control of their own destiny with a majority of the games remaining being against the division. The next 7 weeks will could go really well for us if the right team takes the field.

Bucket 11-17-2015 03:01 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Bad defense of not. The NFL doesn't hand out perfect passing ratings like candy. They are earned through great play.

Not to mention Kirk Cousins. The current QB of the Washington Redskins is the only QB this year to post a perfect passing rating with a minimum of 20 attempts.

So, wether he meets the standards of some of the critics on here or not. He's been impressive this year at times.

Oh, and for the "consistency " crowd....

Cousins last 3 games:
109 QB Rating
800+ yards
9 Touchdowns
1 INT (dropped pass)

The whole.. He needs to win on the road argument is kinda crap since the winning part involves more then just Kirks performance. It starts with Gruden, and goes down to the other 53 players. Not just the one guy who has been playing solid this year.

jamf 11-17-2015 03:08 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=NoCalHail;1128951]Cooley seems convinced that there could be talks going on right now for an extension and that it is going to happen before the season is over.

If Cousins is willing to do a 1-2 year extension right now, I would say go for it. The problem, or should I say dilemma materializes if he holds out on signing anything and ends up finishing the with a really strong season and then another team out there is willing to commit to him long term.[/quote]

He is going into the prime of his career, it's unrealistic to think he would give the skins a short term contract so they can figure out what he is worth.

The 15th highest paid QB this year is Alex smith with an avg salary of $17M per year.
[url=http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/quarterback/]NFL Salary Rankings | Spotrac[/url]

A lot of teams need a QB and he is the best free agent QB available.

he is getting paid!

Brody81 11-17-2015 06:46 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[QUOTE=Bucket;1128978]Bad defense of not. The NFL doesn't hand out perfect passing ratings like candy. They are earned through great play.



Not to mention Kirk Cousins. The current QB of the Washington Redskins is the only QB this year to post a perfect passing rating with a minimum of 20 attempts.



So, wether he meets the standards of some of the critics on here or not. He's been impressive this year at times.



Oh, and for the "consistency " crowd....



Cousins last 3 games:

109 QB Rating

800+ yards

9 Touchdowns

1 INT (dropped pass)



The whole.. He needs to win on the road argument is kinda crap since the winning part involves more then just Kirks performance. It starts with Gruden, and goes down to the other 53 players. Not just the one guy who has been playing solid this year.[/QUOTE]


This.......


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Chico23231 11-17-2015 06:59 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=Bucket;1128978]Bad defense of not. The NFL doesn't hand out perfect passing ratings like candy. They are earned through great play.

Not to mention Kirk Cousins. The current QB of the Washington Redskins is the only QB this year to post a perfect passing rating with a minimum of 20 attempts.

So, wether he meets the standards of some of the critics on here or not. He's been impressive this year at times.

Oh, and for the "consistency " crowd....

Cousins last 3 games:
109 QB Rating
800+ yards
9 Touchdowns
1 INT (dropped pass)

The whole.. He needs to win on the road argument is kinda crap since the winning part involves more then just Kirks performance. It starts with Gruden, and goes down to the other 53 players. Not just the one guy who has been playing solid this year.[/quote]

It's not a fuckin argument, it's a fuckin fact. Look at the numbers home vs away. It's wildly disproportionate. Yes starts with Jay, everything starts with Jay. But cousins needs to play better on the road

skinsfaninok 11-17-2015 08:05 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
If kirk pulls out a win this week it'll be huge for his future here.

rocnrik 11-17-2015 08:07 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
I can't believe how we are talking about Cousins being the future of the team..i say trade him now for 4th round pick and lets get RGIII back behind center where he belongs..NOT!! but this was exactly what was being said not that many days ago..i am glad the redskins don't listen to us the fans..

JoeRedskin 11-17-2015 08:46 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
I admit that I am a Kirk skeptic. He has made huge strides in winning me over with his last three games. If he plays well - accurate throws, no his-fault INT's - [I]at[/I] Carolina, I will be much more positive in my outlook. If he throws out a clunker, it will be a confirmation that he is still inconsistent.

It's like having a 70% at midterms, you need to pretty much do "A" quality work from there on out to end up with a B.

Cousins has three years of C work (or worse). So far this year, in total, he has been inconsistent and, at times, horrible. I believe he is our best option this year and next. We should resign him - or extend him - soon. For me to believe he has actually changed his inconsistent ways for good, he really needs to play well (not great, not perfectly, not mistake free - just well) the rest of the way out. Unlike other established QB's, and in my opinion, he has not won the luxury of a "benefit of the doubt" game.

His last three games were A and A+ work. It would be great if he could continue it or even maintain a quality "B." He has seven more games - here's hoping he has truly, truly turned the corner.


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