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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1238433]Trade down, get more picks, we are fine at WR and could pick one in a later round. Our primary concern on offense is the Oline and TE period.[/quote]

I'd like to move down and get a 2 back

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1238434]I'd like to move down and get a 2 back[/quote]

I wouldn’t rule out that, it could very well happen.

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[quote=Redskins247;1238431]Hopefully they'll be some good TEs in free agency available that they will hopefully target. This is a position that seems to fading away though, because the college game is not using them...much like fullbacks.[/quote]

There is actually a decent amount in Free Agency but TE has become a competitive position with a lot of turnover between injuries, finding competent play, scheme fit, etc. Tight end play has become a need in order to field a working offense.

My guy is Eric Ebron, he would be my #1 free agent target in the free agency. He has a balance game in blocking and catching. He comes from the Colts who feature TE in a passing game, but ALSO have to block because there are one of the best running teams in the league. He is in his prime as well. I would give him a solid deal 4 year deal. Also Im def drafting a TE in that 3rd-4th round range.

Id let Sprinkle come into camp to compete with the 3rd TE position, but he is a jag and would hope we could find another young guy to take that 3rd TE position.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1238430]If the skins pick at 4 or 5 , and Jerry Jeudy is available you have to consider him[/quote]

To be honest...I think he is overrated, I like Ruggs and the kid from Oklahoma over him. But the best WR in college plays for LSU.

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[quote=Chico23231;1238437]There is actually a decent amount in Free Agency but TE has become a competitive position with a lot of turnover between injuries, finding competent play, scheme fit, etc. Tight end play has become a need in order to field a working offense.

My guy is Eric Ebron, he would be my #1 free agent target in the free agency. He has a balance game in blocking and catching. He comes from the Colts who feature TE in a passing game, but ALSO have to block because there are one of the best running teams in the league. He is in his prime as well. I would give him a solid deal 4 year deal. Also Im def drafting a TE in that 3rd-4th round range.

Id let Sprinkle come into camp to compete with the 3rd TE position, but he is a jag and would hope we could find another young guy to take that 3rd TE position.[/quote]

Would love to have Ebron! Saw him play a lot with the Tarheels, and he was great there...not sure what happened to him while with the Lions, but he has shown his worth with the Colts again, especially when Luck was throwing to him. I'd be surprised if the Colts let him get away.

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If Chase Young or Andrew Thomas are available at our pick, you run to the podium with a smile on your face.

If not, try to trade down.

That's my strategy.

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[quote=Redskins247;1238444]Would love to have Ebron! Saw him play a lot with the Tarheels, and he was great there...not sure what happened to him while with the Lions, but he has shown his worth with the Colts again, especially when Luck was throwing to him.[B] I'd be surprised if the Colts let him get away.[/B][/quote]

The colts extended jack Doyle their other TE: [url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/colts-sign-tight-end-jack-doyle-to-a-three-year-extension-reportedly-worth-more-than-21-million/[/url]

They have officially moved on from ebron, he will hit the market

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1238430]If the skins pick at 4 or 5 , and Jerry Jeudy is available you have to consider him[/quote]

I will throw up if they take him or any wr with the first rounder. We have got to get an o-linemen or a complete TE. Besides I don't think he's any better than McLaurin and he went in the 3rd.

I always believe that wr's can be found and developed in the mid rounds.

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I agree. The Redskins have a very bad l
history of drafting WR in the first round. We need to continue drafting for the trenches -either with phenom Chase Young at Edge (depending on whether Nat Orchard keeps kicking butt) or OT Thomas. Then draft with whatever we can get in a trade for Trent Williams (probably a Second round now due to BA’s stupidity). Bringing a first and Second round OT to camp next year will really solidify the OL for years to come. Drafting for OT helps fix Trent’s departure and let’s us replace Moses -who is playing poorly and killing the offense with all his holding penalties. New OL blood protects Haskins and keeps our running game very solid.

Use our newly created cap space by the trading or cutting of Reed, Davis, Moses, Richardson, TW and Norman to get the best TE FA in the NFL. Pick a third or fourth TE in the draft.


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Looks like Ohio State's offense doesn't miss the half dozen guys drafted last year. They made Wisconsin look like a High School team in the 2nd half last night. How you could honestly assess a QB playing for those guys is beyond me. Fields has 37 TDs against only one interception and he is only a sophomore. They guy is surrounded by talent up the wazoo.

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[quote=Chico23231;1238438]To be honest...I think he is overrated, I like Ruggs and the kid from Oklahoma over him. But the best WR in college plays for LSU.[/quote]

I am probably the biggest LSU fan here, and Justin Jefferson is nicew and if he was there in the 2nd provided we had a 2nd I would be all over him but Jeudy is on another level. I like Ruggs too, but with me he could be Tyreek Hill or John Ross III. I love Jeudy's game

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1238586]Looks like Ohio State's offense doesn't miss the half dozen guys drafted last year. They made Wisconsin look like a High School team in the 2nd half last night. How you could honestly assess a QB playing for those guys is beyond me. Fields has 37 TDs against only one interception and he is only a sophomore. They guy is surrounded by talent up the wazoo.[/quote]

Wisconsin is sooooo one dimensional. Once you stop Taylor they are basically a HS team.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1238344]I agree with this, Allen’s contract could be coming up soon to. I would sign Thompson to an affordable contract, if he agrees due to his missed time. Guice, Love, Thompson next year sounds really good.[/quote]

I would rather eat a pound of dog food than offer Thompson anything.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1238589]I would rather eat a pound of dog food than offer Thompson anything.[/QUOTE]Move on from the guys who are always injured already, you know, like a real NFL team would.

I am hot and cold on Loverro, but he is correct in that this isn't a real NFL franchise.

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We don’t need Thompson anymore and he’s too injury-prone. Whenever he’s in, the defense knows we’re going to pass. The play-calling is incredibly predictable now, without other hints like bringing in Thompson. Today he whiffed in a pass rusher who then sacked Haskins.

We need to trade or dump almost every veteran on this team. Time to allow the new HC the chance to bring in his own FA, and build a winning culture. We have too many injury-prone players. Dump them all. That’s how the Patriot’s do it.




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The million dollar of the 2020 draft is whether we get an outstanding OT, like Thomas, or an outside chance at Young or going for QB and then have a QB competition next training camp. At this point I could see Haskins being good next year. But if we take the chance and draft Tua we are betting that he could turn into a great QB for a decade. Tc [URL]r [/URL]and


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As much as I am not impressed with Haskins so far I believe he needs to spend an off season working on fundamentals with a QB coach before you can honestly assess his long term viability. Some consistent good techniques should improve his accuracy. I would not use a high pick on a QB, especially Tua. I would be concerned about the injury he sustained for someone his age. Could be some genetic condition contributed to it.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1239013]As much as I am not impressed with Haskins so far I believe he needs to spend an off season working on fundamentals with a QB coach before you can honestly assess his long term viability. Some consistent good techniques should improve his accuracy. I would not use a high pick on a QB, especially Tua. I would be concerned about the injury he sustained for someone his age. Could be some genetic condition contributed to it.[/quote]

And also unless i am mistaken, they won't know until well into Tua's recovery whether or not he will suffer the same condition that Bo Jackson developed that led to his NFL retirement. I am referring to Avascular Necrosis. Will make it tough for NFL teams to decide whether or not to gamble a high pick. Is there anything in the draft rules that would give something back to the team that drafted Tua if he ends up not being able to play at all?

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Bo Jackson, that was some athlete. I can't believe it was over 30 years ago when he ran over Bosworth on Monday Night Football.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1239013]As much as I am not impressed with Haskins so far I believe he needs to spend an off season working on fundamentals with a QB coach before you can honestly assess his long term viability. Some consistent good techniques should improve his accuracy. I would not use a high pick on a QB, especially Tua. I would be concerned about the injury he sustained for someone his age. Could be some genetic condition contributed to it.[/quote]

He has the best Private QB coach around

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELbkQaxXsAAmtNi?format=jpg&name=4096x4096[/IMG]

Not good

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1239067][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELbkQaxXsAAmtNi?format=jpg&name=4096x4096[/IMG]

Not good[/quote]

No, that's horrific

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1239067][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELbkQaxXsAAmtNi?format=jpg&name=4096x4096[/IMG]

Not good[/quote]

He is in a league of his own, in the wrong direction. In almost all stats he is either way at the bottom or damn close and that is even comparing him to the back ups that are playing. I sure hope a QB coach moves in with him during the off season and they are joined at the hip. I can't believe he made it this far with some of the messed up stuff he does.

I guess he rode that cannon of an arm a long way. It was a couple games ago but I could not believe I saw him side arm a screen pass off of one foot with no defenders around him.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1239070]He is in a league of his own, in the wrong direction. In almost all stats he is either way at the bottom or damn close and that is even comparing him to the back ups that are playing. I sure hope a QB coach moves in with him during the off season and they are joined at the hip. I can't believe he made it this far with some of the messed up stuff he does.

I guess he rode that cannon of an arm a long way. It was a couple games ago but I could not believe I saw him side arm a screen pass off of one foot with no defenders around him.[/quote]

he's made a couple big time throws under pressure this yr but I think we can all agree that Jay was right on his progress, the kid isn't ready to start in the NFL, Drew Lock is playing on a shitty team with no Oline as well and he's 2-0 as a starter and lit up the Texans D Sunday. Honestly there are no excuses for Dwayne [B]OTHER[/B] than his coach being fired (which he was happy about) so there is no sympathy on the guy.

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[quote=Chico23231;1239069]No, that's horrific[/quote]

Watching his film, you can see the struggles but man that graphic is damn concerning.. Like if that doesn't improve in the next 3 weeks I'm not sure how the new regime can be confident in him as the QB1 for the next 5-10 years

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1239073]Watching his film, you can see the struggles but man that graphic is damn concerning.. Like if that doesn't improve in the next 3 weeks I'm not sure how the new regime can be confident in him as the QB1 for the next 5-10 years[/quote]

I think his goofy fundamentals are so ingrained they aren't something that can be quickly corrected during the season with everything else going on. Until that gets fixed not much else matters.

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I think an offseason putting in work with coaches and Alex Smith would hopefully go a long way. Until then at least he's getting in-game reps. Expecting drastic improvement week-to-week is unrealistic when you need as much work as he does.

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You draft Joe Burrow if he is there. Period.

That Georgia defense is damn good...he flat out killed those MF'ers. And while Alabama defense isn't as great as the last couple years....look it up, they still have multiple first round prospects in the secondary...and he balled the f out and muted their second half comeback.

pssshhhh, ef Haskins if Burrow is there.

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[quote=Chico23231;1239092]You draft Joe Burrow if he is there. Period.

That Georgia defense is damn good...he flat out killed those MF'ers. And while Alabama defense isn't as great as the last couple years....look it up, they still have multiple first round prospects in the secondary...and he balled the f out and muted their second half comeback.

pssshhhh, ef Haskins if Burrow is there.[/quote]

The ironic part of all this is Haskins was the one who forced Burrow out of OHST lol

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You draft Chase Young period. You give Haskins a full off-season and season under the new coaching staff and see what you have. Throwing away a 15th overall pick in a year where the coach get fired and replaced with 3 yards and a cloud of dust Callahan is not a fair way to evaluate him.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1239098]You draft Chase Young period. You give Haskins a full off-season and season under the new coaching staff and see what you have. Throwing away a 15th overall pick in a year where the coach get fired and replaced with 3 yards and a cloud of dust Callahan is not a fair way to evaluate him.[/quote]

This seems like the logical thing to do but a new staff is coming in here. Why would they stay loyal to a project they didn't draft? But let's say we get Young, a new staff isn't going to hand DH the job. He's going to have competition, either from a vet or a mid round pick.

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You hire a competent indwpendent GM, let him hire a HC , let him hire his OC, then let them decide what QB is this franchise's future. PERIOD

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1239101]You hire a competent indwpendent GM, let him hire a HC , let him hire his OC, then let them decide what QB is this franchise's future. PERIOD

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Yeah I'm all for a new QB but that's with the right Regime and Staff in place

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1239093]The ironic part of all this is Haskins was the one who forced Burrow out of OHST lol[/quote]

I was listening to Meyer talk about this a few weeks ago. Basically he was saying that DH was just better and farther along than Burrow. Apparently Burrow was an all state basketball player so he wasn't totally focused all in on football.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1239100]This seems like the logical thing to do but a new staff is coming in here. Why would they stay loyal to a project they didn't draft? But let's say we get Young, a new staff isn't going to hand DH the job. He's going to have competition, either from a vet or a mid round pick.[/quote]

which is fair

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[quote=skinsfan69;1239104]I was listening to Meyer talk about this a few weeks ago. Basically he was saying that DH was just better and farther along than Burrow. Apparently Burrow was an all state basketball player so he wasn't totally focused all in on football.[/quote]

Meyer speaks very highly of DH all the time, said he's "the best QB I've coached"

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1239108]Meyer speaks very highly of DH all the time, said he's "the best QB I've coached"[/quote]

I guess Meyer doesn't rate fundamentals very high.

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Going through Dwayne's pass chart so far this season on throws 10+ Yards or more he is pretty bad.

He's 23/58 (39%) for 413 yards

1TD 6 INTS.

Passes 10 Yards or less :

65/91 (59%) for 558 yards

2TDs 1 INT


The downfield passing has got to get better for him or else he won't last long

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1239113]Going through Dwayne's pass chart so far this season on throws 10+ Yards or more he is pretty bad.



He's 23/58 (39%) for 413 yards



1TD 6 INTS.



Passes 10 Yards or less :



65/91 (59%) for 558 yards



2TDs 1 INT





The downfield passing has got to get better for him or else he won't last long[/QUOTE]How does it change if you take out his first two fill in appearances? I think most of his INTs came early on.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1239114]How does it change if you take out his first two fill in appearances? I think most of his INTs came early on.

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No doubt, he has gotten better the past few weeks up until Sunday that is