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This is why testing is so critical, if we're really talking about a fatality rate comparable to the flu WTF are we doing all hunkering down

[URL="https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-dr-birx-asked-about-l-a-study-finding-coronavirus-death-rate-in-line-with-the-flu"]Dr. Birx Asked About L.A. Study Finding Coronavirus Death Rate ‘In Line With’ The Flu[/URL]

[URL="http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/phcommon/public/media/mediapubhpdetail.cfm?prid=2328"]link to press release of the study[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1249942]This is why testing is so critical, if we're really talking about a fatality rate comparable to the flu WTF are we doing all hunkering down

[URL="https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-dr-birx-asked-about-l-a-study-finding-coronavirus-death-rate-in-line-with-the-flu"]Dr. Birx Asked About L.A. Study Finding Coronavirus Death Rate ‘In Line With’ The Flu[/URL]

[URL="http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/phcommon/public/media/mediapubhpdetail.cfm?prid=2328"]link to press release of the study[/URL][/quote]

California and Washington State is first places where the infection spread, if we are finding Feb 6th as the first death, do we honestly believe there aren't others prior?

And again....if the spread was happening, [B]why wasn't there red flags or hospitals that were overwhelmed?[/B] If there was not any business interruption in everyday life...then the medical community were taking an "uptick" in flu and pneumonia in stride. What is on the death certificates of the first 2 deaths, influenza?

Resetting a timeline 3 weeks early as first death is game changing....this is where the investigative reporting should be focus. This is massive news.


Here in Richmond, I personally know a older guy and his son a 50 years old man died at home from the flu on my birthday, January 31st. It really makes you think...

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[quote=MTK;1249942]This is why testing is so critical, if we're really talking about a fatality rate comparable to the flu WTF are we doing all hunkering down

[URL="https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-dr-birx-asked-about-l-a-study-finding-coronavirus-death-rate-in-line-with-the-flu"]Dr. Birx Asked About L.A. Study Finding Coronavirus Death Rate ‘In Line With’ The Flu[/URL]

[URL="http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/phcommon/public/media/mediapubhpdetail.cfm?prid=2328"]link to press release of the study[/URL][/quote]

I am soooooooooooooooo done with this fake virus. So done.

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[quote=mredskins;1249962]I am soooooooooooooooo done with this fake virus. So done.[/quote]

oy don't tell me you think this is all a hoax

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[quote=MTK;1249963]oy don't tell me you think this is all a hoax[/quote]

I shouldn't said "fake" I am just done with this virus.

I believe the social distancing was more effective then previously thought. Now its juts become a pissing match between left and right as to what to do next.

I see people giving less and less of a shit;in my neighborhood last weekend it was business as usually pretty much. folks out talking kids playing together where just a few weeks earlier everyone was huddle down like it was The Secret of NIMH and the tractor was about to run over our rat hole.

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Its def not a hoax...see NYC and surrounding, Northern Italy, Iran, and Wuhan China at their peaks. Social distancing, washing hands, less traveling, etc...naturally will combat the spread.

But the flattening the curve movement is obviously to get less sick, less deaths...but mainly to not stress the health care response, the ability to treat everyone is the goal, and even at the worst here (NYC and surrounding) we were able to meet that challenge with all unproven treatment methods.

At this point, what I question now is, the west coast went through its wave much earlier without social distant measures taken to fully taken to stop spread...the healthcare response never seemed overwhelmed. People who got sick, didn't seek help bc mild symptoms or even if you were sick, you were treated like having Flu and pneumonia.

Its really trying to grasp how to handle something that is sooooo contagious. Like on a scale of 1-10...I would imagine this type of disease would be a 9 or 10...It seems like no matter what, its gonna reach most communities.

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[quote=Chico23231;1249973]Its def not a hoax...see NYC and surrounding, Northern Italy, Iran, and Wuhan China at their peaks. Social distancing, washing hands, less traveling, etc...naturally will combat the spread.

But the flattening the curve movement is obviously to get less sick, less deaths...but mainly to not stress the health care response, the ability to treat everyone is the goal, and even at the worst here (NYC and surrounding) we were able to meet that challenge with all unproven treatment methods.

At this point, what I question now is, the west coast went through its wave much earlier without social distant measures taken to fully taken to stop spread...the healthcare response never seemed overwhelmed. People who got sick, didn't seek help bc mild symptoms or even if you were sick, you were treated like having Flu and pneumonia.

Its really trying to grasp how to handle something that is sooooo contagious. Like on a scale of 1-10...I would imagine this type of disease would be a 9 or 10...It seems like no matter what, its gonna reach most communities.[/quote]

The best thing that comes out of all of this is that we got a wake up call we need to be better prepared moving forward.

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Yeah I think many of us here have it or may have had it. My only concern is my parents, they’re older and still going to work. It also scares me to read about young healthy people dying or having a very difficult recovery.

N95 masks, bought 3 for 10 a piece and a bottle of hand sanitizer for 20. The guy who works my corner store said you can get it on amazon for cheaper so I looked and low and behold there was hand sanitizer available, 3 left. But by the time you click on it it’s literally sold out. So I refreshed and again there was hand sanitizer available but again it sold out before I could click on it.

Found 2 bottles of “fantastix” cleaner at wegmans, entire aisle so cleared out except for these bottles and it says kills viruses and germs. I wonder since it’s marketed as kitchen cleaner if people skipped it.

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Regarding getting tired of following strict measures. Can’t lie, I’m starting to think I need to go into the office more, even though we have a pretty varied (international) staff and some I don’t think are taking it serious, they would make fun of me before for buying gloves for the office etc

Such an odd time.

One bonus is spending quality time with your kid and homeschool has been cool. I’ve really learned her weaknesses and feel like we made advancements specific to her needs vs what her teacher, who is awesome, can do with like 22 second graders.

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It bothers me that even this medical issue that you can carry and transmit to other people (who it might kill) has become such a partisan thing like everything else in this country. Like isn't there anything that both sides can agree on anymore? What happened to trusting experts, people who have spent their entire lives studying issues like these to be prepared for moments like this?

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[quote=mooby;1249988]It bothers me that even this medical issue that you can carry and transmit to other people (who it might kill) has become such a [B]partisan thing like everything else in this country[/B]. Like isn't there anything that both sides can agree on anymore? What happened to trusting experts, people who have spent their entire lives studying issues like these to be prepared for moments like this?[/quote]

That's where Trump is separated from many modern presidents. We hate each other thanks to him. All he would have to do is say "Wear a mask." It's not hard. But hey, it's where we are now.

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[quote=mooby;1249988]It bothers me that even this medical issue that you can carry and transmit to other people (who it might kill) has become such a partisan thing like everything else in this country. Like isn't there anything that both sides can agree on anymore? What happened to trusting experts, people who have spent their entire lives studying issues like these to be prepared for moments like this?[/quote]

Cocksucker in chief made it where everything can be discredited by saying "fake news". Literally his flock can just fall back on that. I've never seen anything like it in my lifetime. Hindsight will be 20/20 on this, but I would wager every modern president since I've been alive would have done a better job with this than him.

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47,808 currently

over 100 reported cases in my zip code, the most of any Howard County zip code.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1249991]That's where Trump is separated from many modern presidents. We hate each other thanks to him. All he would have to do is say "Wear a mask." It's not hard. But hey, it's where we are now.[/quote]

I've heard him say that dozens of times. And BTW the fringe Left and right have had hate for a long time.

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[quote=Back2RFK;1250121]I've heard him say that dozens of times. And BTW the fringe Left and right have had hate for a long time.[/quote]

No , not like this,not like it is now .

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1249992]Cocksucker in chief made it where everything can be discredited by saying "fake news". Literally his flock can just fall back on that. I've never seen anything like it in my lifetime. Hindsight will be 20/20 on this, but I would wager every modern president since I've been alive would have done a better job with this than him.[/quote]

Amen.

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and we made it almost 2 months before the bashing of Trump began. Well done libs I was amazed at how well you guys were doing keeping the political in the other thread...

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Here is a computer model of when states may start opening up.

[url]https://www.geekwire.com/2020/another-month-computer-modelers-estimate-long-coronavirus-shutdowns-last/[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1250129]Here is a computer model of when states may start opening up.

[url]https://www.geekwire.com/2020/another-month-computer-modelers-estimate-long-coronavirus-shutdowns-last/[/url][/quote]

What's your point? Maryland is sticking to that time line .I'm out of work till 6/5 .

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1250126]and we made it almost 2 months before the bashing of Trump began. Well done libs I was amazed at how well you guys were doing keeping the political in the other thread...[/quote]

LOL, why is it libs ....why can't Americans bash the asshole in the WH who openly lies to the public. trump quote...."I have spoken to the Governors ,many of the Governors ..hundreds of Governors".................:stop:

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1250135]What's your point? Maryland is sticking to that time line .I'm out of work till 6/5 .[/QUOTE]I just thought it was interesting. If there was a point it would have been to our resident doomsayer (not you) that opening of the country will be happening and relatively soon.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1250136]LOL, why is it libs ....why can't Americans bash the asshole in the WH who openly lies to the public. trump quote...."I have spoken to the Governors ,many of the Governors ..hundreds of Governors".................:stop:[/QUOTE]Just keep that shit in the political thread thats all I'm sayin.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1250138]Just keep that shit in the political thread thats all I'm sayin.

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Agreed.

I am so freaking tired of eating canned soup for lunch and dinner. My daughter doesn’t like soup so I eat it so I can save her the regular dinners like chicken, ground beef, frozen pizza etc

I can’t wait to go back to eating out/take out 6 times a week.

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[url]https://time.com/5825485/coronavirus-risk-factors/[/url]

Almost Every Hospitalized Coronavirus Patient Has Another Underlying Health Issue, According to a Study of New York Patients

Really good data coming out of the NY wave.

[B]The median age of patients was 63 years old, and 94% of them had at least one comorbidity, meaning that they had at least one other disease in addition to COVID-19.[/B]

Just wow. It’s shocking as it is sad. Two crazy things has been the rapid contagious factor with the long asymptomatic spread period and how deadly it is for the elder with underlying health issue.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1250126]and we made it almost 2 months before the bashing of Trump began. Well done libs I was amazed at how well you guys were doing keeping the political in the other thread...[/quote]

I take responsibility for it, I tried to keep it civil but this is the wrong thread for that discussion.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1250230]I take responsibility for it, I tried to keep it civil but this is the wrong thread for that discussion.[/QUOTE]But it epitomizes your post too, which was not political in and of itself. We all as posters had the ability to keep divisiveness out of this thread but bashers had to bash and responders had to respond.

Its as tiring as the coronavirus quarantine.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1250234]But it epitomizes your post too, which was not political in and of itself. We all as posters had the ability to keep divisiveness out of this thread but bashers had to bash and responders had to respond.

Its as tiring as the coronavirus quarantine.

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.........and what are you?

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[quote=mooby;1250230]I take responsibility for it, I tried to keep it civil but this is the wrong thread for that discussion.[/quote]

.....................face it, it's getting to all of us.:food-smil

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1250137]I just thought it was interesting. If there was a point it would have been to our resident doomsayer (not you) that opening of the country will be happening and relatively soon.

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I agree ,not next week or even two but I see a mid June possibility.

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[quote=Giantone;1250259].........and what are you?[/quote]

tired.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1250264]tired.[/QUOTE]



Lol

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1250129]Here is a computer model of when states may start opening up.

[url]https://www.geekwire.com/2020/another-month-computer-modelers-estimate-long-coronavirus-shutdowns-last/[/url][/quote]

This makes sense and seems reasonable how the virus has spread and where areas have/will peak.

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I am trying to play it safe, but I refuse to wear gloves and a mask in public. I went into a supermarket for the first time in 2 weeks as the mom and pop markets around me don't sell Cyrstal Light or similar drink mixes. I didn't check the TP, but it was obvious a lot of items were still being hoarded. For an early afternoon, late morning it was way more crowded than normal. I saw quite a few people almost jumping out of the way when someone got closer to six feet. It does appear the people around me are losing it.

It seems so strange to me to open a UPS package with shop supplies and spraying the things in containers with disinfectant and putting them away. Also trying to remember how long items that can't be disinfected have been here so I can stop washing my hands after I touch them.

Worse thing is it supposedly it lives 7 days on plastic. So seriously how are you supposed to handle a loaf of bread? Pretty hard to get a slice out without touching the plastic. I have just been grilling my sandwiches. No sure how much that helps.

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[quote=Chico23231;1250284]This makes sense and seems reasonable how the virus has spread and where areas have/will peak.[/quote]

According to that map west Virginia has peaked ???

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52,399

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Here in VA, the dept of Health has several really outstanding dashboards in Tableau which has helped in presenting the data of the virus. Cases here still climbing, AS Expected, as we move towards the peak.

[url]http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/[/url]

I think the most interesting dashboard on the first page is the VA Hospital virus dashboard which focuses on the stress of the health care system in the state.

[url]https://www.vhha.com/communications/virginia-hospital-covid-19-data-dashboard/[/url]

This breakdowns hospitalization, icu, ventilators, beds available, supplies, etc. taken from 115 facilities Per Data source system statement at bottom.

What I have noticed is the “ventilators use” which in the last 45 days has been a top discussion point in the press. As u can see current percentage for total ventilators usage is 21%...since this dashboard has been live the highest percentage has been 25%. But what’s really interesting is NEVER has the coranavirus been the driver of ventilators use. as you can see from breakdown is total virus use is 223 ventilators Right now...406 and are in use for other reasons. We have a total of 2,935 ventilators in state. The virus percentage from that total is 7.5%. Now we don’t know how the other 406 are being used, it could be the virus is the highest reason.

It’s really interesting to see the information. This past week, the top state health official has said “the doctors continue to say this could be the Calm before the storm, yet it’s never come”

Also when it comes to supplies, 3 facilities out of 115 saying PPE is difficult to get in a 72 hour window. Since I’ve monitored the data, the highest that number has been is 7. 97% of hospitals are not experiencing any problems with PPE supplies.

It’s great to see and monitor the data in real-time especially when it comes to the narrative versus the actual facts.

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I'm amazed md and va have been able to keep numbers down compared to ny, nj, pa ..... They're right up 95.

I hope PPE is going to the hot spots that need it

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[quote=SunnySide;1250866]I'm amazed md and va have been able to keep numbers down compared to ny, nj, pa ..... They're right up 95.

I hope PPE is going to the hot spots that need it[/quote]

Numbers ,Hogan has done a great job with this thing!

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[quote=Chico23231;1250685]

It’s great to see and monitor the data in real-time especially when it comes to the narrative versus the actual facts.[/quote]



You couldn't go one post .

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[quote=Giantone;1250900]You couldn't go one post .[/quote]

I’m happy when facts rule.

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[quote=Chico23231;1250930]I’m happy when facts rule.[/quote]


LOL, yeah you and kelly anne get your "alternative facts" from the same place.