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[quote=Monkeydad;1284334]No that's not Tony Romo with a tan playing defense, that's Jaylon Smith!




So now, newly-signed kickers and punters are being spotted with numbers in the 30s and 40s because numbers 1-19 are being taken over by WRs, RBs, and defensive players.

Going to be a mess...and a strange sights this season.[/quote]

I hate it. Used to be able to ID a player you didn't know by their number, now it's going to make it harder to recognize a guy on D with a number like 9 because he could be a LB or secondary. Nothing the NFL won't do to make a quick buck though.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1284246]If the Packers and Seahawks were both smart, they'd just swap QBs. Neither of them wants to be there, and both would be happy in and win in their new homes. It's the best way for both teams to salvage the maximum return and not become complete losers instantly when their QB walks.

Maybe it would take a throw-in pick by GB to balance out the age differential but then again, he's the reigning MVP.

Bonus points, Wilson played for Wisconsin.[/quote]

Rodgers way better than Wilson. His height a major liability. He can't be a pure pocket passer. Both teams take HUGE cap hits with trade. Neither QB is going anywhere, just on principle. Fantasy type trades rarely make sense in real world. They can honor their deals, or sit and not get paid, period. Enough of these Divas signing huge deals with $50M guaranteed and then trying to whine their way out of town. The guarantee is a long term commitment. No billionaire owner is going to have some QB dictate things. Nor GB.

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[quote=mooby;1284249]If Urban Meyer is running his football team for the profits and ego, and not because he wants to do the Pete Carroll thing and prove he can win at any level, he's fucked from the start. Guess time will tell.[/quote]

Meyer said his only concern is helping Jaguars get better, when asked about Tebow. Tebow is an elite athlete with off the charts character. Bringing him for tryout on the big 90 man roster or whatever number is this year, not absurd. We've got like 9 TEs from everywhere, LOL. Bringing him back is probably bit of favor to Tebow, but Meyer will certainly be ruthless about final cuts. Tebow will have to earn it.

People could be talking about Tebow like Thomas, low mileage, transition to new position, etc. I don't think so, but nothing wrong with seeking talent via all avenues, as we are doing.

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[quote=Scalper;1284401]Meyer said his only concern is helping Jaguars get better, when asked about Tebow. Tebow is an elite athlete with off the charts character. Bringing him for tryout on the big 90 man roster or whatever number is this year, not absurd. We've got like 9 TEs from everywhere, LOL. Bringing him back is probably bit of favor to Tebow, but Meyer will certainly be ruthless about final cuts. Tebow will have to earn it.

People could be talking about Tebow like Thomas, low mileage, transition to new position, etc. I don't think so, but nothing wrong with seeking talent via all avenues, as we are doing.[/quote]

Yeah we get it, he's throwing a friend a bone. Doesn't mean he's gonna make the squad or contribute.

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Translation: "We need to create competition for a trade, since everyone knows Julio is done in Atlanta."

@diannaESPN
The Atlanta Falcons have discussed several trade offers for Julio Jones, including an offer for a future first round draft pick, per sources.

There is a sense around the league a trade could go down as early as next week.

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If I was them I'd trade him to the AFC

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1284427]If I was them I'd trade him to the AFC[/quote]

They likely will...to New England.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1284461]They likely will...to New England.[/quote]

If he goes there that will open up a ton for that offense

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Taysom Tebow


[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/urban-meyer-envisions-utilizing-tim-tebow-in-taysom-hill-like-role-this-season-per-report/[/url]

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Why not right?

[URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/tim-tebow-inspires-former-super-bowl-champ-to-make-comeback-at-new-position-i-just-need-a-shot-214320444.html"]Tim Tebow inspires former Super Bowl champ to make comeback at new position: 'I just need a shot'[/URL]

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I saw that and wondered how old he was since it's been forever since he played.

A 38-YO running back!?



He'll always be remembered for trucking Landry.

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AUPxAGobiA[/url]

[yt]AUPxAGobiA[/yt]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1284472]If he goes there that will open up a ton for that offense[/quote]

But is a poor decision. Mortgaging the future. A 1st round pick should be a long-term young starter, not a receiver who has lost a step and well into his 30s with insane contract. Trading for Jones is the kind of mistake we used to make.

I had thought GB might trade a 2nd for him, appease Rodgers, but a 1st is just too much.

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[quote=Scalper;1284547]But is a poor decision. Mortgaging the future. A 1st round pick should be a long-term young starter, not a receiver who has lost a step and well into his 30s with insane contract. Trading for Jones is the kind of mistake we used to make.

I had thought GB might trade a 2nd for him, appease Rodgers, but a 1st is just too much.[/quote]

I partly agree with you - 1st round pick is too much unless it's a team who is one #1 WR away from being a SB contender. Jones might be older and not the same as he was a few years ago, but he is still a WR that can make huge difference for an offense. Last year, Falcons and Ryan played well when Jones was on the field and struggled without him.

I had the same thought about GB, I think trading for Jones might help Rodgers feel a little better. Adams and Jones on the same field would make everything easier for Rodgers - all he needs to do is just to throw it up and let the guys catch it.

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Thank goodness Dan and Vinnie aren’t putting up 2 number ones for Jones. 🤦*♂️

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[quote=mooby;1284403]Yeah we get it, he's throwing a friend a bone. Doesn't mean he's gonna make the squad or contribute.[/quote]

Agree.
Be interesting to see.
Seen crazier things than Tebow as TE 3 or 4

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Texans are stockpiling RBs.

They just signed Rex Burkhead to go with David Johnson, Philip Lindsey and Mark Ingram, along with a few other guys.

I guess since they know their passing game will be garbage, might as well.

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I was wondering what was going on with Morgan Moses:

"Morgan Moses to visit Bears following tumultuous split from Washington, per report" [url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/morgan-moses-to-visit-bears-following-tumultuous-split-from-washington-per-report/amp/[/url]

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I know this is a CFL post but Edmonton has changed their name from Eskimos to Elks.

[URL="https://edmontonsun.com/sports/football/cfl/ee-football/edmonton-elks-new-name-for-cfl-team"]https://edmontonsun.com/sports/football/cfl/ee-football/edmonton-elks-new-name-for-cfl-team[/URL]

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The real racists win again.

Absolutely NOHTING wrong wit a team honoring a tribe, yet certain people get offended just by hearing their name, and apparently their existence.

Keep erasing people from history...

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[quote=Monkeydad;1284603]The real racists win again.

Absolutely NOHTING wrong wit a team honoring a tribe, yet certain people get offended just by hearing their name, and apparently their existence.

Keep erasing people from history...[/quote]

But the Inuits dont like being called "eskimos" .. so if you want to honor them and keep history accurate .. youd call them by their correct name "inuits" and not the name the white settlers gave them.

Unless you only see "history through the white man's eyes" as the only history you actually care about.

How you, a dude form Pennsylvania, could get upset at a Canadian football team changing their name under the fake banner of "erasing history and we are only trying to honor them" .. just blows my mind at the mental gymnastics and freezing of logic needed to think like that.

They dont want to continue to be referred to by the label white people gave them 200 years ago.

its not that hard a concept to grasp.

Its has nothing to do with you or about you or your snowflake everything-offends-you feelings.

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Future generations will probably look back on teams being named after groups of people the same way we look back on the days of separate bathrooms for blacks and whites. It just seems so odd now. Like how did we let that happen? I get it, it's not quite the same, but still, just something that will seem very foreign to us in the future.

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[quote=MTK;1284613]Future generations will probably look back on teams being named after groups of people the same way we look back on the days of separate bathrooms for blacks and whites. It just seems so odd now. Like how did we let that happen? I get it, it's not quite the same, but still, just something that will seem very foreign to us in the future.[/quote]

You just gotta remind them it was absolutely never was…and to even think it was remotely was is just insane.

But all the Indians will mostly be gone by then because thinking a name change actually addresses root issues within that community is quite something.

Name change solved “it” for so many these days.

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Maybe we can be the Washington Its

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[quote=MTK;1284613]Future generations will probably look back on teams being named after groups of people the same way we look back on the days of separate bathrooms for blacks and whites. It just seems so odd now. Like how did we let that happen? I get it, it's not quite the same, but still, just something that will seem very foreign to us in the future.[/quote]

I doubt it. They will look at this as a time of madness. American will be China's bitch a half century or more from now, ruined by its debt, and its total abandonment of the merit system and honest free market competition. This will be looked at as part of the rapid decline in the post-golden-age of American empire.

What is especially noteworthy is your comment "teams being named after groups of people." If there is no disparagement, what is wrong with it? Will the Vikings have to change their name? Will Somali pirates bring suit against Tampa Bay? Comparing this to segregation is ridiculous and an example of the stupidity that is destroying this country.

The attempt to control everything spoken and said in the name of warped leftist ideologies will not be viewed favorably by any freedom loving civilization. Freedom is most of all allowing that free speech which you despise most.

We could debate whether Redskins a slur, Eskimos is certainly not. It is a politically correct name meant to honor a people whose toughness and heritage is admired. What will be wondered by futurity is why we let totalitarian SJW utopians derail an entire civilization, THAT is what futurity will wonder in terms of what happened. How did a nation as prosperous and powerful collapse and become mediocre so rapidly?

How long until the animal rights activists demand all animal names be abandoned?

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[quote=Chico23231;1284614]You just gotta remind them it was absolutely never was…and to even think it was remotely was is just insane.

But all the Indians will mostly be gone by then because thinking a name change actually addresses root issues within that community is quite something.

Name change solved “it” for so many these days.[/quote]

Until the SJW pussies find something else to whine about.
Caving into them just emboldens them to demand more warped policies, like giving puberty halting drugs to legions of children and letting men pretending to be women enter women's sports, making a farce of them.
These people will NEVER be sated. They will always find something else to snivel about, and what they always want is something for nothing.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1284619]Maybe we can be the Washington Its

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Washington Eunuchs

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[quote=SunnySide;1284608]But the Inuits dont like being called "eskimos" .. so if you want to honor them and keep history accurate .. youd call them by their correct name "inuits" and not the name the white settlers gave them.

Unless you only see "history through the white man's eyes" as the only history you actually care about.

How you, a dude form Pennsylvania, could get upset at a Canadian football team changing their name under the fake banner of "erasing history and we are only trying to honor them" .. just blows my mind at the mental gymnastics and freezing of logic needed to think like that.

They dont want to continue to be referred to by the label white people gave them 200 years ago.

its not that hard a concept to grasp.

Its has nothing to do with you or about you or your snowflake everything-offends-you feelings.[/quote]

Nice judgements without knowing my ancestry.

The people who are offended by everything are who offend me, so take your childish namecalling elsewhere.

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[quote=Scalper;1284628]I doubt it. They will look at this as a time of madness. American will be China's bitch a half century or more from now, ruined by its debt, and its total abandonment of the merit system and honest free market competition. This will be looked at as part of the rapid decline in the post-golden-age of American empire.

What is especially noteworthy is your comment "teams being named after groups of people." If there is no disparagement, what is wrong with it? Will the Vikings have to change their name? Will Somali pirates bring suit against Tampa Bay? Comparing this to segregation is ridiculous and an example of the stupidity that is destroying this country.

The attempt to control everything spoken and said in the name of warped leftist ideologies will not be viewed favorably by any freedom loving civilization. Freedom is most of all allowing that free speech which you despise most.

We could debate whether Redskins a slur, Eskimos is certainly not. It is a politically correct name meant to honor a people whose toughness and heritage is admired. What will be wondered by futurity is why we let totalitarian SJW utopians derail an entire civilization, THAT is what futurity will wonder in terms of what happened. How did a nation as prosperous and powerful collapse and become mediocre so rapidly?

How long until the animal rights activists demand all animal names be abandoned?[/quote]

Definitely debates to be had about both Redskins and Eskimos. I doubt changing sports teams names will result in the collapse of civilization as we know it. Teams have been moving away from Indian related names for a long time now. We can get through this latest tragedy.

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[quote=MTK;1284636]Definitely debates to be had about both Redskins and Eskimos. I [B]doubt changing sports teams names will result in the collapse of civilization as we know it[/B]. Teams have been moving away from Indian related names for a long time now. We can get through this latest tragedy.[/quote]

:laughing-

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[quote=MTK;1284613]Future generations will probably look back on teams being named after groups of people the same way we look back on the days of separate bathrooms for blacks and whites. It just seems so odd now. Like how did we let that happen? I get it, it's not quite the same, but still, just something that will seem very foreign to us in the future.[/quote]

..........maybe the [B]DMV ....PLAYERS[/B]

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[quote=MTK;1284636]Definitely debates to be had about both Redskins and Eskimos. I doubt changing sports teams names will result in the collapse of civilization as we know it. Teams have been moving away from Indian related names for a long time now. We can get through this latest tragedy.[/quote]

It will not produce the collapse of civilization, nor was I that hyperbolic. It is emblematic of the mentality that is destroying America as a free republic.

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[quote=Scalper;1284657]It will not produce the collapse of civilization, nor was I that hyperbolic. It is emblematic of the mentality that is destroying America as a free republic.[/quote]

[I]Alright fellas, take it outside...[/I]

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[quote=sevier2;1284659][I]Alright fellas, take it outside...[/I][/quote]

LOL.
I did not introduce politics, merely responded to politic post of another.
I try to avoid politics, as sports boards should be for good old fashioned smack talking, LOL.
Off to work.
Have a good day gents.

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[quote=Scalper;1284660]LOL.
I did not introduce politics, merely responded to politic post of another.
I try to avoid politics, as sports boards should be for good old fashioned smack talking, LOL.
Off to work.
Have a good day gents.[/quote]

“It is emblematic of the mentality that is destroying America as a free republic.”

This political dog whistle hardly squares with your claim of trying to avoid politics. Nice try, though.

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[quote=sevier2;1284659][I]Alright fellas, take it outside...[/I][/quote]

Pretty much. So much political stupidity being thrown around for the dumbest reason.

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[URL="https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-2021-fearless-forecasts-from-mvp-to-sack-leader-to-first-qb-benched-predictions-in-19-categories/"]NFL 2021 fearless forecasts: From MVP to sack leader to first QB benched, predictions in 19 categories[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1284672][URL="https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-2021-fearless-forecasts-from-mvp-to-sack-leader-to-first-qb-benched-predictions-in-19-categories/"]NFL 2021 fearless forecasts: From MVP to sack leader to first QB benched, predictions in 19 categories[/URL][/quote]

Coach Killer: Daniel Jones
Oh, my, does he tend to turn the ball over. Oh, my, do the Giants require massive gains from him. Oh, geez, how they spend on new parts for him on offense. Oh, no, I don't think it will change much at all. And if this goes as poorly as expected, then heads will roll because of it, especially as other NFL teams continue to add young cheap quarterbacks in the interim who far out-produce this one.

Josh Rosen Award: Sam Darnold
My, these two might always be linked together in one way, shape or form. Rosen's star has greatly faded, with the returns on the trades for him dropping significantly by the year. And, gulp, when David Tepper decides by 2022 (or, gulp, by November) that Darnold ain't close to the answer for all that ails them at the QB spot, well, good luck getting more than a mid-round pick in return. That is where I think this is heading, and this very well could be a declining asset


These 2 outcomes are very possible.

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[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/06/04/ceedee-lamb-get-your-popcorn-ready-for-my-second-season/[/url]

Cee dee another “me guy” fitting right in with Dallas

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[quote=MTK;1284672][URL="https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-2021-fearless-forecasts-from-mvp-to-sack-leader-to-first-qb-benched-predictions-in-19-categories/"]NFL 2021 fearless forecasts: From MVP to sack leader to first QB benched, predictions in 19 categories[/URL][/quote]

I didn't see anything in this that struck me as crazy bold. Most seemed like a pretty likely result, at least he basically acknowledged it was a click bait article in his opening. There isn't anything to talk about, and everything is just guesses, so I am going to put this out to create clicks/discussion.

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^ Sorry just trying to steer things back on topic