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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366555]Your absolute cluelessness about yourself is WILD. Every single thing you accuse me of, you're no less than twice as guilty. [B]As someone that thinks they're always the smartest person in the room,[/B] .[/quote]


No , I never have not close but I do realize you are the dumbest in the room and with every post you keep proving it.

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Edit. Nevermind. Have a blessed day.

If anyone wants to listen to music that just mellows you out, listen to Jesse Rice. It's like a new era Jimmy Buffett (#RIP to a true legend).

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[url]https://images.axios.com/J-lD4IKeNMQ5HsvqVHyYmoaXhbw=/353x0:1433x1080/1080x1080/filters:no_upscale()/2020/05/11/1589206235552.gif[/url]

As she campaigns, a wave of high-powered support has rallied behind Vice President Kamala Harris. Eight hundred sixty-six venture capitalists, collectively representing $276 billion in assets, joined the "VCsForKamala" initiative. This unusual backing includes notable tech industry figures such as Mark Cuban, Reid Hoffman and Vinod Khosla, who are endorsing her economic and entrepreneurial vision for America, according to a recent report from Business Insider.

Another powerful endorsement came from a collective letter signed by 88 leaders across Wall Street and Silicon Valley, noting that Harris represents the "best way to support the continued strength, security and reliability of our democracy and economy." This endorsement also sheds light on Harris's support for small businesses – a segment often vulnerable to policy changes.

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So was talking to a couple of my MAGA friends (Yes I have friends who are MAGA and I have liberal friends too) and they were jumping all over three stories of election fraud." A Chinese student voting in Michigan, a video of ballots being destroyed in Pennsylvania and leaked voting machine passwords in Colorado as proof the election was being stolen. They actually believe all these were evidence the Dems were in the process of stealing the election. I pointed out the first was their best example as it clearly undermines Dem opposition to voter ID efforts, but the guy was Chinese and seemed to make an effort to get caught (Chinese interference maybe??) The 2d was an outright fake video created by Russia and the last was incompetence and a mole hill that was being made into a mountain. Of course, they didn't accept any of my analysis and continue to believe it was all true (their counter argument on the Russian fake- FBI as a source really????)

I see Trump's election fraud move as another of his attacks that undermine the United States. MAGA will accept no result as legitimate that doesn't end with Trump as the winner. This is destabilizing. We saw what happened in 2020-2021, I expect it to be worse this time.

In 2020 Trump showed he was willing to burn the United States to the ground if it benefited him, he is showing that again.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366550]
You are a goalpost mover. You absolutely discount anything posted that you don't agree with, then do some name-calling, and posting more links that you deem correct. You're Paul Blart, Thread Cop.

[/quote]


Would you be so kind as to provide your responses where you actually accepted the evidence in links provided by posters who do not share your opinion?

You are the pot calling the kettle black my friend. Right down to the name-calling.

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The late momentum seems to have shifted to Harris.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366541]200+ fmr. generals, admirals endorse Trump

[url]https://americanmilitarynews.com/2024/10/200-fmr-generals-admirals-endorse-trump/[/url]

200 > 13 + 1[/quote]

Just want to point of the 740 national security people who signed that document 231 were flag officers and I didn't even count the senior enlisted on the list, at this point I'm pretty sure there are more retired flag officers publicly opposing Trump than there are publicly supporting him (I am less confident about senior retired enlisted though). As for overall veteran support prior to 2016 veterans of the officer rank supported GOP more than Black voters supported Dems and over all Vet support exceeded 85%. Now Trump gets about 60% of Vet support.

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My election prediction. Kamala beats Donny to become the POTUS 47. She wins 308-230 in the electoral college. She wins NV, WI, MI,PA, GA and NC. She wins 6 of the 7 swing states. She gets 52% of popular vote. I predict the gop flips the Senate by winning a 1-3 seat majority but the Dems flip the House by winning a 5-15 seat majority.

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If Trump wins the difference will be her mistake in picking Walsh. Does anyone still [B]not [/B] consider that to have been a mistake? If Harris wins it will be because of the GOP cross over/anti-Trump vote (after all Trump said he didn't need them and followed thru by sidelining Haley and DeSantis).

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[quote=nonniey;1366755]If Trump wins the difference will be her mistake in picking Walsh. Does anyone still [B]not [/B] consider that to have been a mistake? If Harris wins it will be because of the GOP cross over/anti-Trump vote (after all Trump said he didn't need them and followed thru by sidelining Haley and DeSantis).[/quote]

I think the biggest factor if Harris wins, the female vote. She gets historic amounts including wives of those maga.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1366307]Why do you care about some pro-war, bitter Karens, over the majority of military voters:

Military veterans remain a Republican group, backing Trump over Harris by wide margin

[url]https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/30/military-veterans-remain-a-republican-group-backing-trump-over-harris-by-wide-margin/[/url]

About six-in-ten registered voters who say they have served in the U.S. military or military reserves (61%) support former President Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election, while 37% back Vice President Kamala Harris, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in early September.

He's an angry ex-GF that also gets paid huge money for government contracts that he clearly benefits more from if Harris is president:

John Kelly, Trump’s ex-chief of staff, joins board of firm running America’s biggest child migrant facility

[url]https://globalnews.ca/news/5239271/john-kelly-board-child-migrant-detention/[/url]

And you can call me MAGA or MAGA'ish all you want, I have said multiple times that I'm not voting for him. But I'm not going to listen to all of this non-sense that Harris is anything less than a horrendous candidate. There is just no way you can watch any interview of hers where there is no teleprompter, where you want her leading the free-world. There just isn't. It's just hating Trump. Cut off your nose to spite your face.[/quote]


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/claim-trump-said-only-suckers-210300315.html[/url]

About That Claim Trump Said 'Only Suckers Went to Vietnam'

Believe it or not but there is this..................
[B][SIZE="4"]Gen. John Kelly, who was Trump's chief of staff when the alleged comments were made, confirmed that Trump did call American troops "losers" and "suckers." [/SIZE][/B]However, it was unclear whether he witnessed the comments firsthand or heard about them from someone else, or from news reports. Trump and his allies denied the accusations, though they have not responded to the above anecdote cited in this October 2024 story.

Per the October 2024 Atlantic story, former Trump administration officials including Kelly shared stories of Trump's admiration for autocrats like Adolf Hitler, and his past comments on the military. According to the book, "The Divider: Trump in the White House" Trump asked his then-chief of staff, Kelly "Why can't you be like the German generals?" Kelly told Trump the German generals "tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off." But Trump responded, "No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him."

Kelly gave The Atlantic additional details about the above exchange:

[Kelly] told me that when Trump raised the subject of "German generals," Kelly responded by asking, "'Do you mean Bismarck's generals?'" He went on: "I mean, I knew he didn't know who Bismarck was, or about the Franco-Prussian War. I said, 'Do you mean the kaiser's generals? Surely you can't mean Hitler's generals? And he said, 'Yeah, yeah, Hitler's generals.' I explained to him that Rommel had to commit suicide after taking part in a plot against Hitler." Kelly told me Trump was not acquainted with Rommel.

As we have reported before, Trump received four student deferments, then was disqualified from serving except in a time of war or national emergency after a medical examination found he had bone spurs in both heels. We confirmed Trump's deferment history via Selective Service records obtained from the U.S. National Archives by The Smoking Gun in 2011.

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So how long are the lines. I wouldn't know as I vote by mail (I have never voted any other way).

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[quote=nonniey;1366764]So how long are the lines. I wouldn't know as I vote by mail (I have never voted any other way).[/quote]

i went at 6:45, i was out of the building just before 8

there was some just getting started down time at 7 that contributed to the delay

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Kamala said she raised 1.5 billion on a call with dnc fund raising. Her campaign ended in debt and is trying to still raise money after losing.

Trump raised 380-400 million.

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Going back and re-reading, Walz was a terrible pick as VP…I thought that was evident at the time, but a lot of defenders here.

The Never Trump movement made a lot of money and delivered nothing. Will the democrats continue to embrace the big paycheck chasing Bill Kristol, Steve Schmidt, Rick Wilson, Tom Nichols, Liz Chaney, etc? These guys are making a fortune off the Dems…I gotta salute them for that. And in a Democratic world of identity politics, they give large space to white, old boomers….thats what makes me giggle.

Harris wasn’t a good candidate, she hid from her positions and American people could see it. The media tried their best to dress her up with overwhelming positive coverage and her large rich, elitist Democrat base gave her 1.5 billion

The fact Democrats couldn’t censor social media coverage like they did in 2020 was a big impact as well.

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[quote=Chico23231;1368476]Kamala said she raised 1.5 billion on a call with dnc fund raising. Her campaign ended in debt and is trying to still raise money after losing.

Trump raised 380-400 million.[/quote]

Completely pathetic. TBH both amounts of money are absurdly disgusting and just validates that our country is for the rich and corporations and not us.

In regards to your last post I am not sure I get the hate on Walz I think the biggest flaw they did with him is really not focus on his progressive accomplishments that are incredibly popular regardless of voter registration.

Things like:

Increasing pre-k access, food for breakfast and lunch for students, increased funding for state police, red flag laws and back ground checks, paid leave and paid sick time for all workers and banning non compete agreements, decreased taxes on seniors and middle class and cut prescription drug prices.

All of those have bipartisan support and hugely popular but instead the Harris campaign muzzled him on these issues and he had to speak about Harris' pro corporate agenda which was an epic failure.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1368481]Completely pathetic. TBH both amounts of money are absurdly disgusting and just validates that our country is for the rich and corporations and not us.

In regards to your last post I am not sure I get the hate on Walz I think the biggest flaw they did with him is really not focus on his progressive accomplishments that are incredibly popular regardless of voter registration.

Things like:

Increasing pre-k access, food for breakfast and lunch for students, increased funding for state police, red flag laws and back ground checks, paid leave and paid sick time for all workers and banning non compete agreements, decreased taxes on seniors and middle class and cut prescription drug prices.

All of those have bipartisan support and hugely popular but instead the Harris campaign muzzled him on these issues and he had to speak about Harris' pro corporate agenda which was an epic failure.[/quote]

Baltimore I get that, but the insane positions will be the fodder highlighted to independents. Also the attempts to make him more masculine and to speak to men didn’t work and seemed unnatural/forced….his military service was a detriment. Plus his mannerisms made him appear gay.

The debate was a debacle vs Vance.

Also listen to James Carville here:

If I were running a 2028 campaign and I had some little snot-nosed 23-year-old saying, ‘I’m going to resign if you do this,’ not only would I fire that motherf---er on the spot, I would find out who hired them and fire that person on the spot!" he added. "I’m really not interested in your uninformed, stupid, jacka-- opinion as to whether to go on Joe Rogan or not."


I don’t get why the democrats put up with this nonsense? This happens on Capitol Hill as well with democrat staff.

Look, where I work, we don’t put up with this from 20 years olds. We don’t, you will not get hired or you will not advance period. The big thing we do is move them into spots if we can’t fire them outright

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1368481]Completely pathetic. TBH both amounts of money are absurdly disgusting and just validates that our country is for the rich and corporations and not us.

In regards to your last post I am not sure I get the hate on Walz I think the biggest flaw they did with him is really not focus on his progressive accomplishments that are incredibly popular regardless of voter registration.

Things like:

Increasing pre-k access, food for breakfast and lunch for students, increased funding for state police, red flag laws and back ground checks, paid leave and paid sick time for all workers and banning non compete agreements, decreased taxes on seniors and middle class and cut prescription drug prices.

All of those have bipartisan support and hugely popular but instead the Harris campaign muzzled him on these issues and he had to speak about Harris' pro corporate agenda which was an epic failure.[/quote]

Walz was a terrible pick and I said so and explained why at the time she picked him (I said if she loses the Walz pick would be one reason). There were three things she could have done anyone of which would likely have moved 2pts to her direction (which may have been enough). She should not have picked Walz as she already was perceived as being too progressive. Picking Walz, who was even more progressive than her was a slap in the face to the anti-Trump conservative voters, a percentage of which then returned to Trump or sat out. Not distancing herself from Biden and failing to slap down the extreme woke were the other two opportunities she squandered.

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[quote=nonniey;1368487]Walz was a terrible pick and I said so and explained why at the time she picked him (I said if she loses the Walz pick would be one reason). There were three things she could have done anyone of which would likely have 2pts to her direction (which may have been enough). She should not have picked Walz as she already was perceived as being too progressive. Picking Walz, who was even more progressive than her was a slap in the face to the anti-Trump conservative voters, a percentage of which then returned to Trump or sat out. Not distancing herself from Biden and failing to slap down the extreme woke were the other two opportunities she squandered.[/quote]

Walz wasn't the reason she lost. She actually did well considering she ran for 12 week campaign against someone who had been running for 4 years. I wanted Kelly myself but Walz wasn't the reason she lost.

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[quote=Chico23231;1368482]Baltimore I get that, but the insane positions will be the fodder highlighted to independents. Also the attempts to make him more masculine and to speak to men didn’t work and seemed unnatural/forced….his military service was a detriment. [B]Plus his mannerisms made him appear gay.[/B]

The debate was a debacle vs Vance.

Also listen to James Carville here:

If I were running a 2028 campaign and I had some little snot-nosed 23-year-old saying, ‘I’m going to resign if you do this,’ not only would I fire that motherf---er on the spot, I would find out who hired them and fire that person on the spot!" he added. "I’m really not interested in your uninformed, stupid, jacka-- opinion as to whether to go on Joe Rogan or not."


I don’t get why the democrats put up with this nonsense? This happens on Capitol Hill as well with democrat staff.

Look, where I work, we don’t put up with this from 20 years olds. We don’t, you will not get hired or you will not advance period. The big thing we do is move them into spots if we can’t fire them outright[/quote]

oh boy, if we were playing who's the gay guy Vance would win 10 out of 10 times vs Walz and what does it matter anyway

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[quote=MTK;1368491]oh boy, if we were playing who's the gay guy Vance would win 10 out of 10 times vs Walz and what does it matter anyway[/quote]

lol

But seriously…and im 100% honest I got a non prompted remark from one of the kids…I think the boy…during a televised Walz speaking segment during the campaign

“Is he gay?”

I’m 100% honest. I said no he’s married. And like a minute later I added, well you never know.


I think this was an issue…I don’t think Walz was a guy who connected with young Latino, black and white bro guys.

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Trump's sweep of the battlegrounds pretty much makes the Walz pick irrelevant. If it had come down to PA, the whole "should she have picked Shapiro" thing would've been more widely argued.

Bottom line is that Harris was too much of an unknown quantity, while Trump, despite his obvious personal flaws, held the job before and people in general were satisfied with his performance from 2017-2019 until he couldn't handle covid from a PR perspective. And all the covid spending by both administrations led to the inflation which was a big factor behind the Dems loss.

If Joe had either in 2023 announced (a) that he was resigning at the end of his term and such would've resulted in a primary or (b) stepped down and handed the reins to Harris for a couple years, things many have turned out differently.

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[quote=Chico23231;1368493]lol

But seriously…and im 100% honest I got a non prompted remark from one of the kids…I think the boy…during a televised Walz speaking segment during the campaign

“Is he gay?”

I’m 100% honest. I said no he’s married. And like a minute later I added, well you never know.


I think this was an issue…[B]I don’t think Walz was a guy who connected with young Latino, black and white bro guys.[/B][/quote]

Hard to imagine Vance did either, the guy is as schmuky as they get

I think the importance of the VP thing is way overblown, neither Walz or Vance moved the needle in a significant way to help or hurt

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[quote=MTK;1368497]Hard to imagine Vance did either, the guy is as schmuky as they get

I think the importance of the VP thing is way overblown, neither Walz or Vance moved the needle in a significant way to help or hurt[/quote]

[IMG]https://media1.tenor.com/m/6n8I0JKkAuYAAAAd/ouatih-cliff-booth.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=nonniey;1368487]Walz was a terrible pick and I said so and explained why at the time she picked him (I said if she loses the Walz pick would be one reason). There were three things she could have done anyone of which would likely have 2pts to her direction (which may have been enough). She should not have picked Walz as she already was perceived as being too progressive. Picking Walz, who was even more progressive than her was a slap in the face to the anti-Trump conservative voters, a percentage of which then returned to Trump or sat out. Not distancing herself from Biden and failing to slap down the extreme woke were the other two opportunities she squandered.[/quote]

If she is progressive then Nancy Mace is a conservative

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[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/vice-president-kamala-harris-viral-194007828.html[/url]

Vice President Kamala Harris’ Viral Message To Dejected Dems Sparks Conversation



Just wow, Kamala appears to be drunk while giving this psa…G1 come get your girl! Gotta say we “doge” a bullet

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1368504]If she is progressive then Nancy Mace is a conservative[/quote]

I said she is perceived as too progressive (you may dispute that she actually is a progressive (I wouldn't) but would you dispute the perception?)

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[quote=nonniey;1368515]I said she is perceived as too progressive (you may dispute that she actually is a progressive (I wouldn't) but would you dispute the perception?)[/quote]

I am sure there are people that do consider her a progressive however her refusing to prosecute OneWest Bank for foreclosure fraud, support of genocide, and being against workers ability to unionize. I know she has said progressive things but without authenticity and clarity of message. As SD has said she will say what she needs to get votes but in the end she always supports her donors: OneWest Bank, AIPAC, Silicon Valley. Those are neocon ideologies not progressive

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1368481]Completely pathetic. TBH both amounts of money are absurdly disgusting and just validates that our country is for the rich and corporations and not us.

In regards to your last post I am not sure I get the hate on Walz I think the biggest flaw they did with him is really not focus on his progressive accomplishments that are incredibly popular regardless of voter registration.

[B]Things like:

Increasing pre-k access, food for breakfast and lunch for students, increased funding for state police, red flag laws and back ground checks, paid leave and paid sick time for all workers and banning non compete agreements, decreased taxes on seniors and middle class and cut prescription drug prices[/B].

All of those have bipartisan support and hugely popular but instead the Harris campaign muzzled him on these issues and he had to speak about Harris' pro corporate agenda which was an epic failure.[/quote]


Asking your opinion, what do you think trump;s cabinet will do with those issues?

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[quote=Giantone;1368650]Asking your opinion, what do you think trump;s cabinet will do with those issues?[/quote]

I think regarding education the federal funding will still be there it will just be pushed to the states. That said for some reason that I don't understand there is a part of the population that is vehemently opposed to universal pre-k despite the societal and economic benefits it provides longitudinally and therefore we won't see it adopted nationally nor will we see universal breakfast and lunch. I think you will see gun laws pushed more to the states so more of the same patchwork we have. I like the secretary of labor if she can be the advocate I think she can and battle the billionaires in his cabinet we could see some positives for workers but I am going to guess Trump will not be pro worker. I could see RFK working on cutting prescription prices